Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Respected friends, Fifteen years ago while my friend was seriously engaged in the preparation of tailor made daily forecast self tutor guide to his son (Combining the effects of Gochar angagraha read Dasa bukthi along with BAV of ashtakavarga, graha latta, veedha,Sri.Agastheya Muni’s khauri panchang,nithyakaala Hora,nithya upagraha ruling periods etc). An elderly person then opined that he should not make his son more and more an Astro dependent, for it may erode ones courage and make him to sit idle during the majority period of a day, wait for his turn of good periods, even if he has to attend to his urgent needs due to force of circumstances, he would perform half heartedly there by embrace failures which may turn him a muff and may not venture to come up in his life. The elder’s suggestion sounded good, my friend had left the idea of completing the daily forecast system, now he is proved of his son as he has achieved many heights in his life[facing both hurdles and cake-walk] which my friend did not even imagined. I post this true story to make it a lesson to others who are similarly placed, as I see many astro dependents seek day in- day out astrological guidance and may tend to cultivate fear complexities towards each and every attempts in life. If my suggestions are felt bad taste, kindly ignore the above. With regards, D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear Sh Gupta ji Your suggestion is good as one should not be dependent on astrology to the extent that it makes one as fate conscious. Astrology needs to be taken for guidance & in case of crisis as an pshychological aid in the form of remedies . Sincerely Dr SS Chandel --- Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote: > Respected friends, > > Fifteen years ago while my friend was seriously > engaged in the preparation of tailor made daily > forecast self tutor guide to his son (Combining the > effects of Gochar angagraha read Dasa bukthi along > with BAV of ashtakavarga, graha latta, > veedha,Sri.Agastheya Muni’s khauri > panchang,nithyakaala Hora,nithya upagraha ruling > periods etc). > > An elderly person then opined that he should not > make his son more and more an Astro dependent, for > it may erode ones courage and make him to sit idle > during the majority period of a day, wait for his > turn of good periods, even if he has to attend to > his urgent needs due to force of circumstances, he > would perform half heartedly there by embrace > failures which may turn him a muff and may not > venture to come up in his life. > > The elder’s suggestion sounded good, my friend had > left the idea of completing the daily forecast > system, now he is proved of his son as he has > achieved many heights in his life[facing both > hurdles and cake-walk] which my friend did not even > imagined. > > I post this true story to make it a lesson to > others who are similarly placed, as I see many astro > dependents seek day in- day out astrological > guidance and may tend to cultivate fear complexities > towards each and every attempts in life. > > If my suggestions are felt bad taste, kindly > ignore the above. > With regards, > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places > on Travel. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear readers, Existence created plants, animals and next man. Before man became man, he was an animal. In behaviour animal did do many things. He had only a dormant mind and not a functional mind to the extender that the mind of man is among us nowadays. So man did not do anything to become man, he became man. In the mean time, mind developed and made the animal to be called a man. Man did not do anything to become that, he became that. Actions went on, without man knowing he was active. Existence made man active. Mind developed and one day man‘s mind made him think and recognise that he was active. He distinguished action from standing still. His discovery made him crazy as a small child learning how to walk for the first time. So man started to move like crazy in excitement of his movement, which ushered him into new developments towards other movements and awarenesses. Man did not do anything to become a thinking man, he became a thinking man. Thousands kind of movements are present in man nowadays. He did do nothing to be heralded into this state. He became it. In this movement also Jyotish and other kind of forecasts came into being. He didn’t do anything to become this active, he became an astrologer. This was and is this movement. Hope this creates a prospective towards insight. Job vedic astrology: chandel_shyam: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:43:28 +0100Re: [vedic astrology] Is complete Astro dependency good? Dear Sh Gupta jiYour suggestion is good as one should not be dependenton astrology to the extent that it makes one as fateconscious.Astrology needs to be taken for guidance & in case ofcrisis as an pshychological aid in the form ofremedies . Sincerely Dr SS Chandel--- Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote:> Respected friends,> > Fifteen years ago while my friend was seriously> engaged in the preparation of tailor made daily> forecast self tutor guide to his son (Combining the> effects of Gochar angagraha read Dasa bukthi along> with BAV of ashtakavarga, graha latta,> veedha,Sri.Agastheya Muni’s khauri> panchang,nithyakaala Hora,nithya upagraha ruling> periods etc).> > An elderly person then opined that he should not> make his son more and more an Astro dependent, for> it may erode ones courage and make him to sit idle> during the majority period of a day, wait for his> turn of good periods, even if he has to attend to> his urgent needs due to force of circumstances, he> would perform half heartedly there by embrace> failures which may turn him a muff and may not> venture to come up in his life. > > The elder’s suggestion sounded good, my friend had> left the idea of completing the daily forecast> system, now he is proved of his son as he has> achieved many heights in his life[facing both> hurdles and cake-walk] which my friend did not even> imagined.> > I post this true story to make it a lesson to> others who are similarly placed, as I see many astro> dependents seek day in- day out astrological> guidance and may tend to cultivate fear complexities> towards each and every attempts in life.> > If my suggestions are felt bad taste, kindly> ignore the above.> With regards,> D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.> > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places> on Travel. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> removed]> > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php _______________ Ontdek Windows Live Hotmail, het ultieme online mailprogramma! http://get.live.com/mail/overview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 dear friend your honest holistic observation is true and one shall not depend too much on astrology. i have been repeatedly saying all these years that astrology is only one of the guiding factors of the future with the others being fresh good or bad karmas, own free will, blessings or curses of sages and gods etc. birthchart is like a bank statement as on the date of birth with so many fresh debit and credit entries getting posted which needs to be updated. hence overweightage only on astrology will not get the complete picture. also these days astrology has become a complex confusing laughing stock with one system mentionging the particular placement of a planet in a particular house as bad even while the other system says it is good. also so many ayanamshas are floating around which gets you a choice of any lagna you like by simply changing the ayanamshas. if you take the vimshottari, ashtottari, yogini or rasi dasas, you get four different periods the native runs. with so many inherent contradictions astrology shall only be viewed as ONE of the future indicators and not the only indicator. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com vedic astrology , Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote: > > Respected friends, > > Fifteen years ago while my friend was seriously engaged in the preparation of tailor made daily forecast self tutor guide to his son (Combining the effects of Gochar angagraha read Dasa bukthi along with BAV of ashtakavarga, graha latta, veedha,Sri.Agastheya Muni's khauri panchang,nithyakaala Hora,nithya upagraha ruling periods etc). > > An elderly person then opined that he should not make his son more and more an Astro dependent, for it may erode ones courage and make him to sit idle during the majority period of a day, wait for his turn of good periods, even if he has to attend to his urgent needs due to force of circumstances, he would perform half heartedly there by embrace failures which may turn him a muff and may not venture to come up in his life. > > The elder's suggestion sounded good, my friend had left the idea of completing the daily forecast system, now he is proved of his son as he has achieved many heights in his life[facing both hurdles and cake-walk] which my friend did not even imagined. > > I post this true story to make it a lesson to others who are similarly placed, as I see many astro dependents seek day in- day out astrological guidance and may tend to cultivate fear complexities towards each and every attempts in life. > > If my suggestions are felt bad taste, kindly ignore the above. > With regards, > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear Shri.Panditji, Thank you very much for your kind blessing acknowledgment.I too share your views and other sentiments expressed. With regards, D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear friend your honest holistic observation is true and one shall not depend too much on astrology. i have been repeatedly saying all these years that astrology is only one of the guiding factors of the future with the others being fresh good or bad karmas, own free will, blessings or curses of sages and gods etc. birthchart is like a bank statement as on the date of birth with so many fresh debit and credit entries getting posted which needs to be updated. hence overweightage only on astrology will not get the complete picture. also these days astrology has become a complex confusing laughing stock with one system mentionging the particular placement of a planet in a particular house as bad even while the other system says it is good. also so many ayanamshas are floating around which gets you a choice of any lagna you like by simply changing the ayanamshas. if you take the vimshottari, ashtottari, yogini or rasi dasas, you get four different periods the native runs. with so many inherent contradictions astrology shall only be viewed as ONE of the future indicators and not the only indicator. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com vedic astrology , Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote: > > Respected friends, > > Fifteen years ago while my friend was seriously engaged in the preparation of tailor made daily forecast self tutor guide to his son (Combining the effects of Gochar angagraha read Dasa bukthi along with BAV of ashtakavarga, graha latta, veedha,Sri.Agastheya Muni's khauri panchang,nithyakaala Hora,nithya upagraha ruling periods etc). > > An elderly person then opined that he should not make his son more and more an Astro dependent, for it may erode ones courage and make him to sit idle during the majority period of a day, wait for his turn of good periods, even if he has to attend to his urgent needs due to force of circumstances, he would perform half heartedly there by embrace failures which may turn him a muff and may not venture to come up in his life. > > The elder's suggestion sounded good, my friend had left the idea of completing the daily forecast system, now he is proved of his son as he has achieved many heights in his life[facing both hurdles and cake-walk] which my friend did not even imagined. > > I post this true story to make it a lesson to others who are similarly placed, as I see many astro dependents seek day in- day out astrological guidance and may tend to cultivate fear complexities towards each and every attempts in life. > > If my suggestions are felt bad taste, kindly ignore the above. > With regards, > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Astrology tends to puzzle us as predictions from different astrologers differ widely ,sometimes making it a laughing stock before all. Some pundits will abuse me but let them .I have studied astrology for 30 years and know what is what. aditya --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: I thank you for ur courage in speaking out the truth. > dear friend > > your honest holistic observation is true and one > shall not depend too > much on astrology. i have been repeatedly saying > all these years > that astrology is only one of the guiding factors of > the future with > the others being fresh good or bad karmas, own free > will, blessings > or curses of sages and gods etc. > > birthchart is like a bank statement as on the date > of birth with so > many fresh debit and credit entries getting posted > which needs to be > updated. hence overweightage only on astrology will > not get the > complete picture. also these days astrology has > become a complex > confusing laughing stock with one system mentionging > the particular > placement of a planet in a particular house as bad > even while the > other system says it is good. also so many > ayanamshas are floating > around which gets you a choice of any lagna you like > by simply > changing the ayanamshas. if you take the > vimshottari, ashtottari, > yogini or rasi dasas, you get four different periods > the native > runs. with so many inherent contradictions > astrology shall only be > viewed as ONE of the future indicators and not the > only indicator. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > vedic astrology , > Sathiyanarayana Gupta > <gupta816 wrote: > > > > Respected friends, > > > > Fifteen years ago while my friend was seriously > engaged in the > preparation of tailor made daily forecast self tutor > guide to his son > (Combining the effects of Gochar angagraha read Dasa > bukthi along > with BAV of ashtakavarga, graha latta, > veedha,Sri.Agastheya Muni's > khauri panchang,nithyakaala Hora,nithya upagraha > ruling periods etc). > > > > An elderly person then opined that he should not > make his son > more and more an Astro dependent, for it may erode > ones courage and > make him to sit idle during the majority period of a > day, wait for > his turn of good periods, even if he has to attend > to his urgent > needs due to force of circumstances, he would > perform half heartedly > there by embrace failures which may turn him a muff > and may not > venture to come up in his life. > > > > The elder's suggestion sounded good, my friend > had left the idea > of completing the daily forecast system, now he is > proved of his son > as he has achieved many heights in his life[facing > both hurdles and > cake-walk] which my friend did not even imagined. > > > > I post this true story to make it a lesson to > others who are > similarly placed, as I see many astro dependents > seek day in- day out > astrological guidance and may tend to cultivate fear > complexities > towards each and every attempts in life. > > > > If my suggestions are felt bad taste, kindly > ignore the above. > > With regards, > > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > > > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places > on > Travel. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 dear friend truth is always a truth and we cannot live in a fools paradise. a matured learnt astrologer never play god and only act as a facilitator or adviser. disbelievers of astrology have put two basic spikes in the astrology chart by daring any astrologer to predict the gender or the living or dead status from the chart or birth details. astrology teaching institutions are yet to come up with foolproof astro principles that answer these two basic queries. some astrologers in a similar thread last year come up with few principles which worked on few charts but did not work on many. having said the above it is faith and belief which matters most to the native who believes in astrology. this reminds me of a doctor who put this caption on his table " I TREAT, HE (GOD) CURES " . with this caption the doctor was projecting himself as only treating the patient and if the patient gets cured, he shall thank god and not the doctor. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com vedic astrology , Aditya Chakraborty <adityauc wrote: > > Astrology tends to puzzle us as predictions from > different astrologers differ widely ,sometimes making > it a laughing stock before all. Some pundits will > abuse me but let them .I have studied astrology for 30 > years and know what is what. > aditya > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > I thank you for ur courage in speaking out the > truth. > > dear friend > > > > your honest holistic observation is true and one > > shall not depend too > > much on astrology. i have been repeatedly saying > > all these years > > that astrology is only one of the guiding factors of > > the future with > > the others being fresh good or bad karmas, own free > > will, blessings > > or curses of sages and gods etc. > > > > birthchart is like a bank statement as on the date > > of birth with so > > many fresh debit and credit entries getting posted > > which needs to be > > updated. hence overweightage only on astrology will > > not get the > > complete picture. also these days astrology has > > become a complex > > confusing laughing stock with one system mentionging > > the particular > > placement of a planet in a particular house as bad > > even while the > > other system says it is good. also so many > > ayanamshas are floating > > around which gets you a choice of any lagna you like > > by simply > > changing the ayanamshas. if you take the > > vimshottari, ashtottari, > > yogini or rasi dasas, you get four different periods > > the native > > runs. with so many inherent contradictions > > astrology shall only be > > viewed as ONE of the future indicators and not the > > only indicator. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > vedic astrology , > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta > > <gupta816@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected friends, > > > > > > Fifteen years ago while my friend was seriously > > engaged in the > > preparation of tailor made daily forecast self tutor > > guide to his son > > (Combining the effects of Gochar angagraha read Dasa > > bukthi along > > with BAV of ashtakavarga, graha latta, > > veedha,Sri.Agastheya Muni's > > khauri panchang,nithyakaala Hora,nithya upagraha > > ruling periods etc). > > > > > > An elderly person then opined that he should not > > make his son > > more and more an Astro dependent, for it may erode > > ones courage and > > make him to sit idle during the majority period of a > > day, wait for > > his turn of good periods, even if he has to attend > > to his urgent > > needs due to force of circumstances, he would > > perform half heartedly > > there by embrace failures which may turn him a muff > > and may not > > venture to come up in his life. > > > > > > The elder's suggestion sounded good, my friend > > had left the idea > > of completing the daily forecast system, now he is > > proved of his son > > as he has achieved many heights in his life[facing > > both hurdles and > > cake-walk] which my friend did not even imagined. > > > > > > I post this true story to make it a lesson to > > others who are > > similarly placed, as I see many astro dependents > > seek day in- day out > > astrological guidance and may tend to cultivate fear > > complexities > > towards each and every attempts in life. > > > > > > If my suggestions are felt bad taste, kindly > > ignore the above. > > > With regards, > > > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > > > > > > > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places > > on > > Travel. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear Panditji, Nicely expressed. I would rather term Astrology as a Road Map and Astrologer as a Guide and use it accordingly in day to day life. Regards Ravi Nair panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear friend truth is always a truth and we cannot live in a fools paradise. a matured learnt astrologer never play god and only act as a facilitator or adviser. disbelievers of astrology have put two basic spikes in the astrology chart by daring any astrologer to predict the gender or the living or dead status from the chart or birth details. astrology teaching institutions are yet to come up with foolproof astro principles that answer these two basic queries. some astrologers in a similar thread last year come up with few principles which worked on few charts but did not work on many. having said the above it is faith and belief which matters most to the native who believes in astrology. this reminds me of a doctor who put this caption on his table " I TREAT, HE (GOD) CURES " . with this caption the doctor was projecting himself as only treating the patient and if the patient gets cured, he shall thank god and not the doctor. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com vedic astrology , Aditya Chakraborty <adityauc wrote: > > Astrology tends to puzzle us as predictions from > different astrologers differ widely ,sometimes making > it a laughing stock before all. Some pundits will > abuse me but let them .I have studied astrology for 30 > years and know what is what. > aditya > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > I thank you for ur courage in speaking out the > truth. > > dear friend > > > > your honest holistic observation is true and one > > shall not depend too > > much on astrology. i have been repeatedly saying > > all these years > > that astrology is only one of the guiding factors of > > the future with > > the others being fresh good or bad karmas, own free > > will, blessings > > or curses of sages and gods etc. > > > > birthchart is like a bank statement as on the date > > of birth with so > > many fresh debit and credit entries getting posted > > which needs to be > > updated. hence overweightage only on astrology will > > not get the > > complete picture. also these days astrology has > > become a complex > > confusing laughing stock with one system mentionging > > the particular > > placement of a planet in a particular house as bad > > even while the > > other system says it is good. also so many > > ayanamshas are floating > > around which gets you a choice of any lagna you like > > by simply > > changing the ayanamshas. if you take the > > vimshottari, ashtottari, > > yogini or rasi dasas, you get four different periods > > the native > > runs. with so many inherent contradictions > > astrology shall only be > > viewed as ONE of the future indicators and not the > > only indicator. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > vedic astrology , > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta > > <gupta816@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected friends, > > > > > > Fifteen years ago while my friend was seriously > > engaged in the > > preparation of tailor made daily forecast self tutor > > guide to his son > > (Combining the effects of Gochar angagraha read Dasa > > bukthi along > > with BAV of ashtakavarga, graha latta, > > veedha,Sri.Agastheya Muni's > > khauri panchang,nithyakaala Hora,nithya upagraha > > ruling periods etc). > > > > > > An elderly person then opined that he should not > > make his son > > more and more an Astro dependent, for it may erode > > ones courage and > > make him to sit idle during the majority period of a > > day, wait for > > his turn of good periods, even if he has to attend > > to his urgent > > needs due to force of circumstances, he would > > perform half heartedly > > there by embrace failures which may turn him a muff > > and may not > > venture to come up in his life. > > > > > > The elder's suggestion sounded good, my friend > > had left the idea > > of completing the daily forecast system, now he is > > proved of his son > > as he has achieved many heights in his life[facing > > both hurdles and > > cake-walk] which my friend did not even imagined. > > > > > > I post this true story to make it a lesson to > > others who are > > similarly placed, as I see many astro dependents > > seek day in- day out > > astrological guidance and may tend to cultivate fear > > complexities > > towards each and every attempts in life. > > > > > > If my suggestions are felt bad taste, kindly > > ignore the above. > > > With regards, > > > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > > > > > > > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places > > on > > Travel. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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