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[Guest guest]

Sir,

wuth refernce to the subject cited, i have some doubts, questions, and

confusion regarding destiny, karma, sadhana etc.Accourding to astrology it is

the effects of nine grahas for sucess and failluare of human being.

 

Now if you are worshipping your kuldevata or Ishtadevata, the effects of the

plants may be minimised? so many remedies are available in tantra and mantra and

yantra astrology. For a commen man which is the simple and eassy method to

adopt?

 

If poorva karma is bad and concerned are suffering for the reason, what are

the remedies?

 

We observe in our society that the currupt politicians, smugglers, gundas are

quite happy with economically by generation to generation nothing is happned to

them.

 

But who leavs with sinciearly, religiuosly, with hard work doesnt get any

status, or richness, or sucess. what is the role of navagrahas here?

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Namaste,

> We observe in our society that the currupt politicians, smugglers,

gundas are quite happy with economically by generation to generation nothing is

happned to them.

>But who leavs with sinciearly, religiuosly, with hard work doesnt get any

status, or richness, or sucess. what is the role of navagrahas here?

 

 

Ø The present day politicians are well ware of the “Arichandra Maharaja’s

Purana” they DARE NOT adhere to Principles of ‘DHARMA’; where as sincere common

citizens stand security at grave yards.

Ø While my friend was in active services - had to interview a candidate;

to a question ‘how much would be the net worth of Chief Ministers / Ministers?

He quipped immediately- assets accrue @10% of the annual plan outlay .

I,think in his opinion navagraha too, go under the footsteps of these kaliyuga

“Raavanaas” (politicians).

 

 

Sorry for the above interruptions.

 

 

 

NARAHARI KULKARNI <kulkarning2003 wrote:

Sir,

wuth refernce to the subject cited, i have some doubts, questions, and

confusion regarding destiny, karma, sadhana etc.Accourding to astrology it is

the effects of nine grahas for sucess and failluare of human being.

 

Now if you are worshipping your kuldevata or Ishtadevata, the effects of the

plants may be minimised? so many remedies are available in tantra and mantra and

yantra astrology. For a commen man which is the simple and eassy method to

adopt?

 

If poorva karma is bad and concerned are suffering for the reason, what are

the remedies?

 

We observe in our society that the currupt politicians, smugglers, gundas are

quite happy with economically by generation to generation nothing is happned to

them.

 

But who leavs with sinciearly, religiuosly, with hard work doesnt get any

status, or richness, or sucess. what is the role of navagrahas here?

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Good afternoon sir,

i was reading an artical published in current

science vol-81 no 1 dated 10 th july 2001 is as follows:

 

Science and Astrology

‘All sciences arise, ultimately, from everyday observations about natural

events and about the relation men and women have to these events and to each

other.’ (Richard C. Lewontin in ‘Biology in Human Affairs’ – Voice of America,

Forum). Astrology is a study of the correlation of the positions of the stars

and planets in the sky with earthly events, including birth of a baby and its

life on this planet. It is as much a science as theories of genetics in the

earlier period of their development, when critical observation of the

surroundings was the mode of xperimentation. Our ancient rishis, who were

intellectual giants and who were keen observers of nature and natural phenomena,

had come to some conclusions on the basis of their observations. The conclusions

had some predictive values in the hands of the competent – one who had the

ability to take into consideration all the parameters in their proper weightage.

Presently, the conclusions may be regarded only as

hypotheses; although

the believers would consider that there is enough material evidence in their

favour. Solid proof could come later; even as proofs for several of the

biological postulates are coming by only now. It might be of interest to note

here that our rishis also made other observations after similar studies in other

areas, for example, in biology. I would like to refer to three of the supreme

postulates of the Hindu philosophy: 1. Aham Brahmasmi. Atman is universal.

It is the same Atman present in each of us. 2. The doctrine of rebirth. We

have had past lives and we will also have future. It is the same Atman moving

from one life to the next. Atman would never perish.

3. The doctrine of karma. Atman when moving to the next life carries with it

its own characteristics. And here its manifestations could be modified. Our

present actions would be reflected in our next life. One can see a parallelism

of these in modern biological postulates: 1. The genetic material is universal.

Each one of us has more or less the same genetic material. 2. The genetic

material is transmitted to the progeny over generations. The genetic material

has thus survived in the past and will also survive in the future. In fact, it

would appear, that the living body is only a surviving mechanism of the genetic

material. The latter would never perish. 3. The physical and the emotional

characteristics of humans are carried forward to the next generation/s by the

genes present in the genetic material. The genes, to start with, are at

different threshold activities in each of us. The activities can change

depending upon prolonged exposure to an environment. The genes are

then manifested to a different

extent in each of us. It is mind-boggling that our rishis should have arrived

at such astounding hypotheses just by observing human behaviour over

generations. Presumably they had the ability to store large amount of

information, recall them (quite often the information of even a previous

generation, the memories of which were present in them) and correlate them. The

postulates of our rishis are indeed scientific, although later they got a

religious hue; because the conclusions of their analysis of the information

stored in their brain, when presented to the public, almost sounded as

revelation. I cannot but agonize at the thought that if only the Indian

scientists had

pondered in depth over the postulates of our rishis, they would have found

that, many of the biological iscoveries

of the present are in the informations on the brain in Sanskrit literature.

Let us be open-minded. It is not probable that all events in this universe are

interrelated to a smaller or greater extent. Every cause has its effect, some

perceptible, some not. In atmospheric sciences one talks of the butterfly effect

(figuratively perhaps!). In medical

sciences, one talks of the effect of the moon on the human brain. Who knows?

The activities of our genes could be governed by the events in the sky and

revealed in the lines in our palms! Biology is on the move to momentous

developments. Francis Crick in his book The Astounding Hypothesis states:

‘You, your joy, your sorrow, your memories, your ambition, your personal

identity and your free will are in fact no more than the behaviour of a vast

assembly of nerve cells and their associated molecules’. D. S. Wood in the book

Molecular Genetics in Diseases of Brain states: ‘The genetic material carries

the instruction to grow, to divide, to mature and even probably to die!’ Do not

such statements sound as extracts from Indian traditional knowledge? Let us be

modest to draw from the experiences of our rishis, who were intellectual giants.

We now have more information than our rishis had (but, perhaps, less ability to

correlate them). Knowledge is always a modification of the one present earlier.

There is scope for improvement on the postulates of even the rishis. But first,

let us know what the postulates of our rishis are, in various areas of human

activity. Astrology is one of them. N. S.

NARASIMHAN Department of Chemistry, University of Poona, Pune 411 007, India

e-mail: nsn

 

 

CORRESPONDENCE

8 CURRENT SCIENCE, VOL. 81, NO. 1, 10 JULY 2001

Astrology, navratnas and gemmology

It was quite interesting to go through the editorial, ‘The astrology fallout’

(Curr. Sci., 2001, 80, 1085–1086) and the correspondence ‘Astrology and science’

(Curr. Sci., 2001, 80, 1088–1089). I had, however, ignored an earlier editorial

(Curr. Sci., 2001, 79, 1139–1140) and the letter by K. N. Ganeshaiah (719– 720).

In this letter, I wish to give my opinion on the influence of astrology on the

selling of precious stones. I had briefly discussed about Hindu astrology on

assigning nine gems to the nine major planets (navratnas), as well as the

birthstones listed by Retail Jewellers Association and American Gem Society in

my book Gems and Gem Industry in India (2000, Mem. 45, Geological Society of

India, Bangalore, p. 3 and p. 375 respectively). Although there is great

progress

in science and technology, it is surprising to note that there is a great

demand for ‘stones that bring luck’ or ‘stones that satisfy/pacify/tranquilize

(fools?)’ a planet positioned unfavourably in one’s horoscope! Till mid-1980s

there was only a meagre demand for ‘yellow sapphire’ – the pushyaraga or pucraj

that governs the planet Jupiter, erroneously called topaz (misled by the ancient

term ‘oriental topaz’). The price of this not-so-attractive

‘coloured stone’, the yellow sapphire, has increased manifold in recent times,

as the belief in astrology has increased. The pucraj, according to the

astrology, is a ‘safe stone’ under any circumstances as it does not harass the

wearer. What about other stones? If the stone assigned to Saturn (blue sapphire)

or Sun (ruby) or Venus (diamond) does not suit the wearer, it brings bad luck to

him/her! The beautiful stone has to tolerate abuses

before being discarded or resold. It is ridiculous to note that the navratnas

are known better by their ‘governors’,

the planets. Yellow sapphire (pucraj) is called the ‘Guru stone’ (Guru-ka-nung

or just Guru). Similarly,

the Sani – blue sapphire – the most feared of all stones. The flawless

‘Kashmiri Sani’ is the most expensive (because it has the most appropriate

lovely colour that Saturn demands?). Burmese or Ceylony Sanis are fine, but

African or Australian Sanis are looked down upon as their colour tone is too

dark, etc. All the above statements appear strange, but this is the fact in the

Indian gem market. In fact, the study of gemmology was never taken seriously as

a science in India, in ancient times. Before the beginning of the Christian era,

Kautilya described gemstones as objects of beauty and earners of revenue to the

king’s treasure (Murthy, S. R. N., Gemmological

Studies in Sanskrit Texts, Rashtrothana Mudranalaya, Bangalore, 1990, p. 103).

In later stages, however, astrologers and merchants took over the study of

precious stones as objects of luck! As P. Balaram rightly reproduced in the

above mentioned editorial (p. 1086), ‘if Vedic astrology is to be promoted as a

subject relevant to our heritage, it could be included as a part of ancient

Indian studies, rather than projecting it as science’.

Gemmology, however, is a part of mineralogy (science), not a fable. R. V.

KARANTH Department of Geology,

Faculty of Science, M.S. University of Baroda, Vadodara 390 002, India

 

 

KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham wrote:

Namaste,

> We observe in our society that the currupt politicians, smugglers, gundas are

quite happy with economically by generation to generation nothing is happned to

them.

>But who leavs with sinciearly, religiuosly, with hard work doesnt get any

status, or richness, or sucess. what is the role of navagrahas here?

 

 

Ø The present day politicians are well ware of the “Arichandra Maharaja’s

Purana” they DARE NOT adhere to Principles of ‘DHARMA’; where as sincere common

citizens stand security at grave yards.

Ø While my friend was in active services - had to interview a candidate; to a

question ‘how much would be the net worth of Chief Ministers / Ministers? He

quipped immediately- assets accrue @10% of the annual plan outlay .

I,think in his opinion navagraha too, go under the footsteps of these kaliyuga

“Raavanaas” (politicians).

 

Sorry for the above interruptions.

 

 

 

NARAHARI KULKARNI <kulkarning2003 wrote: Sir,

wuth refernce to the subject cited, i have some doubts, questions, and confusion

regarding destiny, karma, sadhana etc.Accourding to astrology it is the effects

of nine grahas for sucess and failluare of human being.

 

Now if you are worshipping your kuldevata or Ishtadevata, the effects of the

plants may be minimised? so many remedies are available in tantra and mantra and

yantra astrology. For a commen man which is the simple and eassy method to

adopt?

 

If poorva karma is bad and concerned are suffering for the reason, what are the

remedies?

 

We observe in our society that the currupt politicians, smugglers, gundas are

quite happy with economically by generation to generation nothing is happned to

them.

 

But who leavs with sinciearly, religiuosly, with hard work doesnt get any

status, or richness, or sucess. what is the role of navagrahas here?

 

 

 

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