Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Namaste, You have given it in a nutshell,worth several $. " A. Ravindran Nair " <rain13club wrote: Dear Mr. Shindi, My 2 cents on this. Ishta Devata is seen from the 12th from Karakamsa, means navamsa rasi of AK planet. - If there is a planet in 12th from Karakamsa, then take the pratyadi devata of that particular planet. - If not, take the strongest planet having rasi dhrishti to that rasi. - If no rasi dhrishti also, then take the rasi lord. Hope it helps. Regards Ravi Nair Shindi <sinhazz wrote: Thanks Dharmesh for your lucid description of the concept. But in one of Lectures of PVR Rao I came to know that your Ishta devta is decided from the lagna of your Shashthyamsa chart(d-60) . So there is an ambiguity because of this. Dharmesh Verma <dverma1968 vedic astrology Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:36:15 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi Well as per the psychology basically the 'samskar' given by parents to progeny are 'Archetype' with which you are born and brought up. In case of hindu religion there were several 'Rishis', who used to worship one god. And the 'Gotra' generally is the name of that 'Rishi' to whose pedigree one belongs to. Even there are 'Gotras' available from the names of Kings of that time. These gotras are regardless of any caste. As the caste system came after 'Manu' but Ancient times witnessed several Rishis and Kings (Head of the tribes) too. So this way the 'Rakshas' were also belonging to different tribes. And used to worship ne God. Later the people were divided based on 'Isht'. For example 'Vaishnav' who worshipped Lord Vishnu' and 'Shaiv' who worshipped Lord Shiva and there were people who worshipped 'Shakti' also. This separated people. Otherwise truely in any religion there is one supernatural power who should be the 'Isht' ideally say 'Krishna' while talking to Arjuna showed his 'Virat swarupa' letting him realise that he is the one who is controlling universe hence influencing every activity in the universe which is well pre calculated. Any way you must be taught since childhood by your parents that 'So and So' should be worshipped everyday without negligence and should be offered share from food and so on... That must have fixed up some imaginary image in your brain and you must remember him/her at anytime you feel. Regards. Dharmesh Shindi <sinhazz > vedic astrology Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:16:45 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi Can we have a discussion on this .... Our chart says that if we worship a particular swarupa then it would be beneficial for us. Now if Ishta Devta concept comes with reliability which comes over a period of time, so is it necessary that the person be told in his childhood to whom to worship. Because the swarupa about whom a child hears from his family more often starts to believe in him. Dharmesh Verma <dverma1968> vedic astrology Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:06:34 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi Dear Shindi, Isht Devi/Devata is one on whome you rely more than you. I mean as such there is no gender should be determined for the supernatural power that is controlling universe. But since in all religions some 'swarupa' is assumed. And in Hindu religion the people believed in representation of both the genders devata/devi for everything whther material or 'moksha'. So among all these anyone whome you consider most near to you is your 'Isht' without any bias for gender or name. Regards. Dharmesh Shindi <sinhazz > vedic astrology Thursday, May 3, 2007 1:48:49 PM [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi Hi all, Can anyone explain to me the concept of Ishtadevta or Devi. Is IshtaDevta the God or goddess to whom we pray naturally on our own liking OR Is it the one according to our lineage I mean Gotra OR according to our Kundali. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Dear Karunam RAghavam, Thanks for the pat!! I am an Astrology Student and my guru is Shri. Ramdas Raoji. I would need all the help from the learned gurujis for understanding the concept well. Regards Ravi Nair KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham wrote: Namaste, You have given it in a nutshell,worth several $. " A. Ravindran Nair " <rain13club wrote: Dear Mr. Shindi, My 2 cents on this. Ishta Devata is seen from the 12th from Karakamsa, means navamsa rasi of AK planet. - If there is a planet in 12th from Karakamsa, then take the pratyadi devata of that particular planet. - If not, take the strongest planet having rasi dhrishti to that rasi. - If no rasi dhrishti also, then take the rasi lord. Hope it helps. Regards Ravi Nair Shindi <sinhazz wrote: Thanks Dharmesh for your lucid description of the concept. But in one of Lectures of PVR Rao I came to know that your Ishta devta is decided from the lagna of your Shashthyamsa chart(d-60) . So there is an ambiguity because of this. Dharmesh Verma <dverma1968 vedic astrology Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:36:15 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi Well as per the psychology basically the 'samskar' given by parents to progeny are 'Archetype' with which you are born and brought up. In case of hindu religion there were several 'Rishis', who used to worship one god. And the 'Gotra' generally is the name of that 'Rishi' to whose pedigree one belongs to. Even there are 'Gotras' available from the names of Kings of that time. These gotras are regardless of any caste. As the caste system came after 'Manu' but Ancient times witnessed several Rishis and Kings (Head of the tribes) too. So this way the 'Rakshas' were also belonging to different tribes. And used to worship ne God. Later the people were divided based on 'Isht'. For example 'Vaishnav' who worshipped Lord Vishnu' and 'Shaiv' who worshipped Lord Shiva and there were people who worshipped 'Shakti' also. This separated people. Otherwise truely in any religion there is one supernatural power who should be the 'Isht' ideally say 'Krishna' while talking to Arjuna showed his 'Virat swarupa' letting him realise that he is the one who is controlling universe hence influencing every activity in the universe which is well pre calculated. Any way you must be taught since childhood by your parents that 'So and So' should be worshipped everyday without negligence and should be offered share from food and so on... That must have fixed up some imaginary image in your brain and you must remember him/her at anytime you feel. Regards. Dharmesh Shindi <sinhazz > vedic astrology Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:16:45 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi Can we have a discussion on this .... Our chart says that if we worship a particular swarupa then it would be beneficial for us. Now if Ishta Devta concept comes with reliability which comes over a period of time, so is it necessary that the person be told in his childhood to whom to worship. Because the swarupa about whom a child hears from his family more often starts to believe in him. Dharmesh Verma <dverma1968> vedic astrology Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:06:34 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi Dear Shindi, Isht Devi/Devata is one on whome you rely more than you. I mean as such there is no gender should be determined for the supernatural power that is controlling universe. But since in all religions some 'swarupa' is assumed. And in Hindu religion the people believed in representation of both the genders devata/devi for everything whther material or 'moksha'. So among all these anyone whome you consider most near to you is your 'Isht' without any bias for gender or name. Regards. Dharmesh Shindi <sinhazz > vedic astrology Thursday, May 3, 2007 1:48:49 PM [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi Hi all, Can anyone explain to me the concept of Ishtadevta or Devi. Is IshtaDevta the God or goddess to whom we pray naturally on our own liking OR Is it the one according to our lineage I mean Gotra OR according to our Kundali. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Hi All, Thanks for the wonderful answer. Can anyone list the adi and pratyadi devtas for all planets along with the mantras associated with them. KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham vedic astrology Tuesday, May 8, 2007 6:26:33 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi - Mr.Nair. Namaste, You have given it in a nutshell,worth several $. " A. Ravindran Nair " <rain13club > wrote: Dear Mr. Shindi, My 2 cents on this. Ishta Devata is seen from the 12th from Karakamsa, means navamsa rasi of AK planet. - If there is a planet in 12th from Karakamsa, then take the pratyadi devata of that particular planet. - If not, take the strongest planet having rasi dhrishti to that rasi. - If no rasi dhrishti also, then take the rasi lord. Hope it helps. Regards Ravi Nair Shindi <sinhazz > wrote: Thanks Dharmesh for your lucid description of the concept. But in one of Lectures of PVR Rao I came to know that your Ishta devta is decided from the lagna of your Shashthyamsa chart(d-60) . So there is an ambiguity because of this. Dharmesh Verma <dverma1968 > vedic astrology Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:36:15 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi Well as per the psychology basically the 'samskar' given by parents to progeny are 'Archetype' with which you are born and brought up. In case of hindu religion there were several 'Rishis', who used to worship one god. And the 'Gotra' generally is the name of that 'Rishi' to whose pedigree one belongs to. Even there are 'Gotras' available from the names of Kings of that time. These gotras are regardless of any caste. As the caste system came after 'Manu' but Ancient times witnessed several Rishis and Kings (Head of the tribes) too. So this way the 'Rakshas' were also belonging to different tribes. And used to worship ne God. Later the people were divided based on 'Isht'. For example 'Vaishnav' who worshipped Lord Vishnu' and 'Shaiv' who worshipped Lord Shiva and there were people who worshipped 'Shakti' also. This separated people. Otherwise truely in any religion there is one supernatural power who should be the 'Isht' ideally say 'Krishna' while talking to Arjuna showed his 'Virat swarupa' letting him realise that he is the one who is controlling universe hence influencing every activity in the universe which is well pre calculated. Any way you must be taught since childhood by your parents that 'So and So' should be worshipped everyday without negligence and should be offered share from food and so on... That must have fixed up some imaginary image in your brain and you must remember him/her at anytime you feel. Regards. Dharmesh Shindi <sinhazz > vedic astrology Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:16:45 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi Can we have a discussion on this .... Our chart says that if we worship a particular swarupa then it would be beneficial for us. Now if Ishta Devta concept comes with reliability which comes over a period of time, so is it necessary that the person be told in his childhood to whom to worship. Because the swarupa about whom a child hears from his family more often starts to believe in him. Dharmesh Verma <dverma1968> vedic astrology Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:06:34 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi Dear Shindi, Isht Devi/Devata is one on whome you rely more than you. I mean as such there is no gender should be determined for the supernatural power that is controlling universe. But since in all religions some 'swarupa' is assumed. And in Hindu religion the people believed in representation of both the genders devata/devi for everything whther material or 'moksha'. So among all these anyone whome you consider most near to you is your 'Isht' without any bias for gender or name. Regards. Dharmesh Shindi <sinhazz > vedic astrology Thursday, May 3, 2007 1:48:49 PM [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Devi Hi all, Can anyone explain to me the concept of Ishtadevta or Devi. Is IshtaDevta the God or goddess to whom we pray naturally on our own liking OR Is it the one according to our lineage I mean Gotra OR according to our Kundali. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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