Re:can women learn astrology& jyothish digest -opinion of sanjayji

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Om krishna guru,

 

dear all .

 

I request every body to go trough New jyothish digest and see the

editorial of sanjayji --his words on varahmihira on women.Which hav

printed before this discussion.

 

I will be off for 10 days and i request every body to comment and

participate in a healthy discussion.

 

 

 

thanks and regrds sunil nair.

 

om shreem maha laxmai namah.

 

 

vedic astrology , " kishore patnaik "

<kishorepatnaik09 wrote:

>

> dear sunil,

>

> there is nothing personal but it is a general refrain we hear ' this,

this,

> this is wrong in our religion'

>

> I am only meaning to say we ( the collective we) are not so great as

to

> judge our religion. we should follow things at least which are not

> blatantly harmful blindly.

>

> I do not consider myself competent to discuss on vedas as though i

read

> Vedas, I am not a pundit in them.

>

> Hope this clears,

>

> kishore patnaik

>

>

> On 4/26/07, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> >

> > Om krishna guru.

> >

> > dear kishorji,

> >

> > I request u to clarify your understanding of vedas and be clear

> > in what u r saying.

> >

> > I commented when somebody claims to be something and he was quoting

> > some commentaries on vedanta ,which says all women should be treated

as

> > shudras ,if his mother is shudra and i cannot understand how

somebody

> > can be kshatriya or Brahmin and do vedas or vedangas or astrology

..If by

> > some ceremony it changes then we should do for every body and giv

them a

> > chance to grow.

> >

> > I request any body participating pls do subjuct wise discussions and

> > no examples other than vedas.I was discussing mildly as --i said u

can

> > find pro and anti statements in vedas,as evrybody know it was

> > manipulated from time to time .We can find all excuses ,while we

serve

> > mughals one excuse and when they hav gone one excuse ,This happened

in

> > british period also.we use all modern facilities and we r strict on

no

> > body shud cross ocean and he will be expelled from religion.Is it

> > possible now.veda was telling loka samasto sukhino bhavanthu -----or

> > rinwantham aryam viswam .And did we still talk abt some body visit a

> > foreign country he shud be expelled .I dont need to make a modern

> > religion only those who pamper this ideas shud show me a religion

which

> > will obligh this theoreys.so many controversial stands and double

> > standard approach we can take .

> >

> > But dont giv example like in Tarka (debates) some body is saying if

> > half full glass in half empty then full glass is full empty.

> >

> > I will end with one storey from history ,when raja of kashmir was

> > disturbed when majority of population turned into muslim religion,

one

> > sanyasi told he will re convert them if king giv permission and

while

> > hearing the news the kashmiri brahmin chiefs s tratened king that

they

> > will suicide if any body is converted back to hinduism and reminded

> > him of curse of brahmins.

> >

> > And the rest is history and u can see the plight of pundits in

kashmir

> > valley now .

> >

> > I do respect u as a senior member ,if or not you agree with me .

> >

> > If i mis took the statement pls forgiv me ,and till 27 or max 28th i

> > will be available for discussions and then i will be off from group

for

> > min 10 days.

> >

> > regds sunil nair.

> >

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> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> >

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> >

> > vedic astrology

<vedic astrology%40>,

> > " kishore patnaik "

> >

> > kishorepatnaik09@ wrote:

> > >

> > > dear sunil nair,

> > >

> > > nothing in the vedic traditions is unnecessary or illogical. It is

we

> > who

> > > can not understand classify them so.

> > >

> > > i really can not understand how people can so casually condemn the

> > dharma..

> > > is it that the average modern man has more intellegence than the

> > collective

> > > wisdom of the Rishis of the yore?? then how come that he is not

able

> > to

> > > preach a brand new religion according to his whims and fancies??

why

> > on

> > > earth he should get stuck with the age old practices and then

grumble

> > about

> > > them too?

> > >

> > >

> > > One of the grand mothers of my father used to grumble about

telephone,

> > it

> > > seems. She used to say that telephone is a foolish invention

because

> > who

> > > understands which end you should hold onto your mouth and which

end to

> > your

> > > ear??

> > >

> > > Let us not be such grand mothers.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Kishore patnaik

> > >

> > >

> > >