RE: Planets retrograde- How do astrologer take???

March 22, 2007

I am providing the birth details.

dob:16-07-1964

TOB:00:37 PM

POB: Tirukoilur tamilnadu 079.15 east,11.58 North

lagna : thula

Rasi:Kanya

star: Chitra

can you analyse the details?

vedic astrology , " rajee_66v " <rajee_66v

wrote:

>

> dear frend

>

> astrology is like a wagan which runs on multiple wheels. we need

> other details too. randem answers tends to be wrong still if

satrun

> is strong by shadbala then there might have been troubles in her

> higher studies, might have delay in progeny or might have changed

> her mind with respect to pregnency. first child may be bit lazy

> might be female birth etc

>

> she may have altered view for grandfather, mother etc

>

> just an attempt ( have taken help of prashna)

>

> regards

> rajeev

>

> vedic astrology , " tnj_painting "

> <tnj_painting@> wrote:

> >

> > what about the saturn place in Kumbha Rasi and it is mooltrikona

> > sign and the lagna is Thula rasi. the saturn is retrogate in

> kumbha

> > rasi it is 5 th bhava from Thula lagna... My wife horoscope is

> like

> > that and now saturn dasi is running. Please explain.

> > jayaram sharma

> >

> > -- In vedic astrology , " rajee_66v " <rajee_66v@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > dear frends

> > >

> > > retrograde planets always hard nut to understand, as mentioned

> by

> > > gurujans, i do agree when a planet is retro it gets chesta

bala,

> > >

> > > chesta means attempts , hence retro planets makes natives to

> take

> > > more than one attempt to finish task. if there is retro

planets

> in

> > > 7th house or 7th lord being retro it take more than one

attempt

> > for

> > > marriage. he gets alliances but get dropped.

> > >

> > > if 4th lord is retro he may take more than one attempt to

> > construct

> > > his house , may applicabe to his eductaion where he may change

> his

> > > course selected. similarly it is aplicable to 12 bhava lords..

> > >

> > > important is if lagna lord is retro person may have difficulty

> in

> > > taking right decesions, or his social status will be keep

> > ocilating.

> > >

> > > retro planets lacks stability hence results pertaing to it is

> > similar

> > >

> > > like wise in horoscope where there is more than one planet

> retro,

> > we

> > > may see unstability to higher extent

> > >

> > > dasha anater dasha of rahu/ketu and retro planets and vice

versa

> > may

> > > triggers things ..quite amazingly

> > >

> > > we have to take into consederation in which constellation it

is

> > > placed , if it is placed in chara/ugra rasi or nakshtaras

again

> > > that add ups where as its placement in soumya nakshatra/rashi

> can

> > > be toularable.

> > >

> > > and this is important in analyzing rajyoga and other

> combinations

> > to

> > > time dasa anaterdasha results

> > >

> > > retro planet may not need support of mars or sun in transist

to

> > > trigger event where as non retro planet.

> > >

> > > always results are felt in transist speacially when planet get

> > retro

> > > or rahu ketu change sign where in other case event occurs a

bit

> > late

> > > till either mars or sun activates the event

> > >

> > > but

> > >

> > > if retro planet is aspected by jupiter or venus it tends to

calm

> > > down a bit but still has tint of retro effects..

> > >

> > > mars is planet of action hence PAC of mars and retro planet

may

> be

> > > additive while satrun may be minimizing.

> > >

> > > we have noticed effect of retro mars and retro satrun, both

the

> > > planets are quite opposite in tatva and gunas. hence easily

> > > reflected where as jupiter venus and mercurian effect is

lesser

> > > seen, and takes times to feel retro effect.

> > >

> >

>

March 23, 2007

Dear Rajeev

God Bless U

In my opinion Retrograde planet means to ask any army man to about turn and

walk.

If Planet is doing bad thing all of a sudden he stop doing bad thing until he

is retrograde.

If Planet is doing Good thing and all of a sudden he is doing evil thing until

he is retrograde.

What matter most is Star Lord of house Sub Lord.

Let Us Examin this If 7th house Sub Lord is Venus and its Star Lord is Saturn

which is Retrograde. One Will Remain Single in Whole Life.

Prem Chopra

rajee_66v <rajee_66v wrote:

dear frends

retrograde planets always hard nut to understand, as mentioned by

gurujans, i do agree when a planet is retro it gets chesta bala,

chesta means attempts , hence retro planets makes natives to take

more than one attempt to finish task. if there is retro planets in

7th house or 7th lord being retro it take more than one attempt for

marriage. he gets alliances but get dropped.

if 4th lord is retro he may take more than one attempt to construct

his house , may applicabe to his eductaion where he may change his

course selected. similarly it is aplicable to 12 bhava lords..

important is if lagna lord is retro person may have difficulty in

taking right decesions, or his social status will be keep ocilating.

retro planets lacks stability hence results pertaing to it is similar

like wise in horoscope where there is more than one planet retro, we

may see unstability to higher extent

dasha anater dasha of rahu/ketu and retro planets and vice versa may

triggers things ..quite amazingly

we have to take into consederation in which constellation it is

placed , if it is placed in chara/ugra rasi or nakshtaras again

that add ups where as its placement in soumya nakshatra/rashi can

be toularable.

and this is important in analyzing rajyoga and other combinations to

time dasa anaterdasha results

retro planet may not need support of mars or sun in transist to

trigger event where as non retro planet.

always results are felt in transist speacially when planet get retro

or rahu ketu change sign where in other case event occurs a bit late

till either mars or sun activates the event

but

if retro planet is aspected by jupiter or venus it tends to calm

down a bit but still has tint of retro effects..

mars is planet of action hence PAC of mars and retro planet may be

additive while satrun may be minimizing.

we have noticed effect of retro mars and retro satrun, both the

planets are quite opposite in tatva and gunas. hence easily

reflected where as jupiter venus and mercurian effect is lesser

seen, and takes times to feel retro effect.

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March 23, 2007

dear premji

there is posibititis what u have said, i beleve clear cut thumb

rules are rare, there will be surely other combinations too present.

definately will love to learn more if u cud please mention few

horoscopes.

regards

rajeev

-- In vedic astrology , Pram Chopra

<pramchopra1964 wrote:

>

> Dear Rajeev

>

> God Bless U

>

> In my opinion Retrograde planet means to ask any army man to

about turn and walk.

>

> If Planet is doing bad thing all of a sudden he stop doing bad

thing until he is retrograde.

>

> If Planet is doing Good thing and all of a sudden he is doing

evil thing until he is retrograde.

>

> What matter most is Star Lord of house Sub Lord.

>

> Let Us Examin this If 7th house Sub Lord is Venus and its Star

Lord is Saturn which is Retrograde. One Will Remain Single in Whole

Life.

>

> Prem Chopra

>

> rajee_66v <rajee_66v wrote:

>

> dear frends

>

> retrograde planets always hard nut to understand, as mentioned by

> gurujans, i do agree when a planet is retro it gets chesta bala,

>

> chesta means attempts , hence retro planets makes natives to take

> more than one attempt to finish task. if there is retro planets in

> 7th house or 7th lord being retro it take more than one attempt

for

> marriage. he gets alliances but get dropped.

>

> if 4th lord is retro he may take more than one attempt to

construct

> his house , may applicabe to his eductaion where he may change his

> course selected. similarly it is aplicable to 12 bhava lords..

>

> important is if lagna lord is retro person may have difficulty in

> taking right decesions, or his social status will be keep

ocilating.

>

> retro planets lacks stability hence results pertaing to it is

similar

>

> like wise in horoscope where there is more than one planet retro,

we

> may see unstability to higher extent

>

> dasha anater dasha of rahu/ketu and retro planets and vice versa

may

> triggers things ..quite amazingly

>

> we have to take into consederation in which constellation it is

> placed , if it is placed in chara/ugra rasi or nakshtaras again

> that add ups where as its placement in soumya nakshatra/rashi can

> be toularable.

>

> and this is important in analyzing rajyoga and other combinations

to

> time dasa anaterdasha results

>

> retro planet may not need support of mars or sun in transist to

> trigger event where as non retro planet.

>

> always results are felt in transist speacially when planet get

retro

> or rahu ketu change sign where in other case event occurs a bit

late

> till either mars or sun activates the event

>

> but

>

> if retro planet is aspected by jupiter or venus it tends to calm

> down a bit but still has tint of retro effects..

>

> mars is planet of action hence PAC of mars and retro planet may be

> additive while satrun may be minimizing.

>

> we have noticed effect of retro mars and retro satrun, both the

> planets are quite opposite in tatva and gunas. hence easily

> reflected where as jupiter venus and mercurian effect is lesser

> seen, and takes times to feel retro effect.

>

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>

March 24, 2007

Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji

Thanks for your insightful detailed reply! It was great to learn that.

We indeed are blessed to have you here.

May I ask two brief follow up questions. First: were these natives in

some kind of military positions in last lives and therefore it is

their life lesson this life to learn to tame their anger?

Second, would worshipping Lord Hanuman make the Mars direct. That

might perhaps help them express aggression easily and rather

peacefully and not repress it. Or, will it make them even angrier,

since it will activate the mars.

Someone recommended me that in view of my current Sade Sati, 2nd

phase. But I have Mars retro in Aries in 11th house, third from AL.

Two days later I fell down hard on my head,bled,still have a scar and

money was stolen from my mother(mars aspects moon too). So I stopped

doing that. I am wondering what happened.

I am sorry I somehow missed this post earlier. Noticed just now,

otherwise I would have responded earlier.

Many thanks again and pranams

Shiva

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Member:

>

> You have got it right.

>

> People with Mars retrograde in their horoscopes tend to delay

> expression of anger but the feelings of resentment are deep within.

> Then when they finally explode, the fireworks are to be seen to be

> believed!

>

> Generally persons with Mars retrograde tend to have an innate

> aggressive instinct that can be masked only to a certain extent

> however cultured and sophisticated they are.

>

> The power of their anger has an almost electric character stupefying

> and transfixing those who experience it! Luckily most of these

> natives can be taught to control the expression of that anger, and

> in such cases they will seem to be quite harmless on most

> occasions. However, the energy is lurking just beneath the surface

> of icy cool, ready to come to the aid of the native if situations

> demand that.

>

> A person who rather goes after the throat of his/ her would=be

> assailant rather than negotiate in the face of a loaded gun is more

> likely to have a retrograde Mars. I know of an incidence concerning

> a Mars retrograde native (he was born in Mesha lagna with Mars in

> the 3rd house retrograde). Typically, he is of a gentle and smiling

> countenance. But on 3 or 4 occasions when his life was in danger

> from hired thugs, the transformation was astounding. It is really a

> sight to see hired rowdy elements with Guns in hands running for

> their lives with fear absolutely palpable on their faces after

> receiving the treatment from our friend! He was not afraid even

> after he was surrounded by 4 of them with guns in their hands. He

> did not waste time negotiating or looking for help around; he just

> went for it so much that they had to run. Of course, he was trained

> in martial arts and did regular exercises,etc. But for a normal

> person living a peaceful life to react like that in the face of

> threat WITHOUT ANY TRACE OF FEAR and on the contrary taking the

> battle to the enemy's terrain so to say is really typical of

> retrograde Mars in the vikrama sthaanaa is it not? This person

> otherwise is a very genial type.

>

> I have noted another thing also with that person. He is capable of

> writing with a stinging wit if he is upset with somebody. (Mars

> retrograde in the 3rd house indicating communications).

>

> You can also combine the house lordship and placement of retrograde

> Mars and analyze how these natives behave for your learning purposes.

> In fact, this goes true for almost all retrograde planets. You will

> find a definite pattern.

>

> We can say that the " retrograde planets express their unique

> qualities in activities concerned/ governed by the house in which

> they are placed and the expression carries the stamp of the house

> over which they rule. "

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > Thanks for this very enlightening clarification.

> >

> > Would Mars retro native be more or less angry than a direct mars in

> > the same house and sign (let's say in Aries).

> >

> > Would it be that this native has a deep anger but delays

> expressing it?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Shiva

> >

> > > >

> > > > On 3/11/07, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > >

> > > > > A retrograde planet attains " Cheshta bala " - one of the six

> > > sources

> > > > > of shadbala of a planet. Even a debilitated planet in

> retrograde

> > > > > motion will attain strength by virtue of its retrograde

> motion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually retrograde planets indicate past life imprints

> regarding

> > > > > that sector of life indicated by the planet concerned.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from the above, retrograde planets indicate certain

> special

> > > > > tendencies in the natives concerned. I am listing that below:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mercury retrograde in the natal chart indicates that the

> native

> > > may

> > > > > be highly introspective (to the extent that the native may

> have

> > > full-

> > > > > blown conversations or discussions with an alter-ego within

> > > > > themselves in certain cases; this is not a psychopathic

> condition

> > > > > but a case of hyper-developed conscience or inner voice!).

> These

> > > > > individuals frequently talk to themselves within themselves

> and

> > > can

> > > > > motivate themselves. They show unusual intelligence with

> numbers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter retrograde gives indomitable will power to a

> > > > > native. " Mission impossible " churns them on to challenge;

> they

> > > are

> > > > > born to take on tasks that others will find unappealing.

> This is

> > > > > the sign of a potential crusader who dares to differ and

> chalk

> > > his

> > > > > own path in life. Challenges spur them on. They succeed where

> > > > > others fail usually. An entrepreneur who buys a sick unit and

> > > > > dramatically turns it around to a winning combination within

> > > years

> > > > > probably will have retrograde Jupiter in natal chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus retrograde gives unusual or eccentric tastes for an

> > > > > individual. They have unique preferences especially in

> romantic

> > > > > matters.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars retrograde signifies the warrior with a never-say-die

> > > > > attitude. They possess wonderful equanimity of mind even

> though

> > > > > their outer expressions may betray their powerful emotions.

> This

> > > is

> > > > > a potentially advantageous planetary motion for a General or

> a

> > > > > surgeon who have to take instant decisions within specified

> time

> > > > > without any tremblings of the heart to spoil their

> calculations.

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn retrograde gives a loner attitude. Though the person

> may

> > > > > seem to be outwardly gregarious, they live a life for

> themselves

> > > > > within themselves. If other indications in the chart support

> it,

> > > > > these persons become ascetics in later life having

> understood the

> > > > > futility of this material existence.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from this, if an astrologer wants to know the effects

> of

> > > Sun

> > > > > or Moon retrograde......what should you conclude?......THE

> > > > > ASTROLOGER HAS TO GET HIS BASICS IN ASTRONOMY STRONG because

> the

> > > > > luminaries Sun and Moon have no retrograde motion as the

> > > placement

> > > > > of planets with respect to the Sun only cause this apparent

> > > > > phenomenon called retrograde motion. Moon being a reflection

> of

> > > Sun

> > > > > is never retrograde. The nodes are always retrograde!

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > " Smt. Anju Sharma "

> > > > > <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > well, it can be.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > 40>

> > > > > > Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM

> > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How do

> > > > > astrologer take???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Anju Sharma

> > > > > >

> > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In My Opinion All depends on the star lord of the planet

> if it

> > > > > is direct retrogration doesn't matter at all.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prem Chopra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ju Sharma " <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > As per my limited knowledge and understanding of astrology;

> > > > > > Retrogration of a planet is related with its strength and

> > > > > influence over a nativity. If the concerned planet is

> benefic, it

> > > > > will have more power to provide benefic results, if malefic

> vice-

> > > > > versa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > balkrishnatalele

> > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > 40>

> > > > > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:43 AM

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How do

> > > astrologer

> > > > > take???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > OM Shri GANESHA NAMAH:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Gurujans,

> > > > > > How do an individual judge retrograde planet , does he take

> > > > > positive

> > > > > > or negative,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some books suggest, Retrograde planets are in very excited

> > > > > state, They

> > > > > > give results very sudden and are unpredictable,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Few of them take is negative,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In one of the horoscope I have seen 3 retrograde planets in

> > > > > LAGNA,

> > > > > > and I failed to analysis , I went wrong and kept on moving

> > > wrong,

> > > > > > I would like to share her data, NO I DON'T WANT

> PREDICTION,

> > > Just

> > > > > let

> > > > > > me know how to judge retrograde planet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please do let me know, How you will judge this, Because her

> > > > > education

> > > > > > lord is Retrograde, still she has VERY GOOD education, and

> lots

> > > > > more...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2-April-1980

> > > > > > 16:54

> > > > > > Andheri-Maharashtra-India (or MUMBAI)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > cheers

> > > > > > Talele

> > > > > >

March 25, 2007

Respected Astrologers,

As Prem Ji said in his earlier post. According to him, Retrograde planets

infact do bad to the effect of the planet and its power, then why do we say that

it gains chesta bala when in fact it starts giving bad results as compared to

straight planets.

I myself have Juipiter, Mercury and Saturn retrograde in my chart. Can any of

the astrologers examine my chart and tel me what Good/Bad results it will give

to me. I did note that many effects as described by Prem ji in his earlier post

proves correct in my case.

my DOB 22nd Feb 1981

Place Jhansi (UP, India)

Time 16:45

Saturn is 7th Lord and is retrograde...is that the reason that I keep on

getting failed attempts on my love affairs??....Juipiter is Lord of 9th and 6th

house and is retrograde.Mercury is lord of 12th and 3rd and is retrograde. Lagna

is Cancer.

Someone on this forum told me that Gaj Kesari Yoga also gets nullified in my

chart due to retrograde Juipiter and Saturn's Conjunction. So what are the good

effects of having retrograde planets if any, specifically as related to my

chart?

Lagna Cancer

Rahu ---- First house (Bhaav)

Jup (Retro), Moon, Sat (Retro) --->>> Third House

Mer (Retro), Ketu, Ven --->>> 7th House

Mars, Sun --->> 8th House

Regards

Rahul

-- In vedic astrology , Pram Chopra

<pramchopra1964 wrote:

>

> Dear Rajeev

>

> God Bless U

>

> In my opinion Retrograde planet means to ask any army man to

about turn and walk.

>

> If Planet is doing bad thing all of a sudden he stop doing bad

thing until he is retrograde.

>

> If Planet is doing Good thing and all of a sudden he is doing

evil thing until he is retrograde.

>

> What matter most is Star Lord of house Sub Lord.

>

> Let Us Examin this If 7th house Sub Lord is Venus and its Star

Lord is Saturn which is Retrograde. One Will Remain Single in Whole

Life.

>

> Prem Chopra

>

> rajee_66v <rajee_66v wrote:

>

> dear frends

>

> retrograde planets always hard nut to understand, as mentioned by

> gurujans, i do agree when a planet is retro it gets chesta bala,

>

> chesta means attempts , hence retro planets makes natives to take

> more than one attempt to finish task. if there is retro planets in

> 7th house or 7th lord being retro it take more than one attempt

for

> marriage. he gets alliances but get dropped.

>

> if 4th lord is retro he may take more than one attempt to

construct

> his house , may applicabe to his eductaion where he may change his

> course selected. similarly it is aplicable to 12 bhava lords..

>

> important is if lagna lord is retro person may have difficulty in

> taking right decesions, or his social status will be keep

ocilating.

>

> retro planets lacks stability hence results pertaing to it is

similar

>

> like wise in horoscope where there is more than one planet retro,

we

> may see unstability to higher extent

>

> dasha anater dasha of rahu/ketu and retro planets and vice versa

may

> triggers things ..quite amazingly

>

> we have to take into consederation in which constellation it is

> placed , if it is placed in chara/ugra rasi or nakshtaras again

> that add ups where as its placement in soumya nakshatra/rashi can

> be toularable.

>

> and this is important in analyzing rajyoga and other combinations

to

> time dasa anaterdasha results

>

> retro planet may not need support of mars or sun in transist to

> trigger event where as non retro planet.

>

> always results are felt in transist speacially when planet get

retro

> or rahu ketu change sign where in other case event occurs a bit

late

> till either mars or sun activates the event

>

> but

>

> if retro planet is aspected by jupiter or venus it tends to calm

> down a bit but still has tint of retro effects..

>

> mars is planet of action hence PAC of mars and retro planet may be

> additive while satrun may be minimizing.

>

> we have noticed effect of retro mars and retro satrun, both the

> planets are quite opposite in tatva and gunas. hence easily

> reflected where as jupiter venus and mercurian effect is lesser

> seen, and takes times to feel retro effect.

>

> Need Mail bonding?

> Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users.

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March 25, 2007

For the inferior planets, retrogression will be apparently observed

when the planet (venus or mercury) is between the sun and earth! In

other words, the planet will be receiving full light of the sun but

we (earth) would be receiving a bit less! Infinitismally less, mind

you, given the disc size of the inferior planets if this

occultation 'theory' is to be seriously considered!

All planets have syndirectional orbits around the sun! Now if some

planets were to actually move opposite to others in their orbital

directions (some west to east, others east to west) then we would be

in trouble!

Whew!

Well, not quite! According to the followers of mean lunar nodes (rahu

and ketu), their normal direction is opposite those of the other

planets, they are always retrograde! And if you decide to side with

true lunar nodes, then life gets even more complex! They are mostly

retrograde but at times direct!

Enjoy ...!

Rohiniranjan

vedic astrology , NAWAB RAHUL <cool_extacy

wrote:

>

> Respected Astrologers,

>

> As Prem Ji said in his earlier post. According to him, Retrograde

planets infact do bad to the effect of the planet and its power, then

why do we say that it gains chesta bala when in fact it starts giving

bad results as compared to straight planets.

>

> I myself have Juipiter, Mercury and Saturn retrograde in my

chart. Can any of the astrologers examine my chart and tel me what

Good/Bad results it will give to me. I did note that many effects as

described by Prem ji in his earlier post proves correct in my case.

>

> my DOB 22nd Feb 1981

> Place Jhansi (UP, India)

> Time 16:45

>

> Saturn is 7th Lord and is retrograde...is that the reason that I

keep on getting failed attempts on my love affairs??....Juipiter is

Lord of 9th and 6th house and is retrograde.Mercury is lord of 12th

and 3rd and is retrograde. Lagna is Cancer.

>

> Someone on this forum told me that Gaj Kesari Yoga also gets

nullified in my chart due to retrograde Juipiter and Saturn's

Conjunction. So what are the good effects of having retrograde

planets if any, specifically as related to my chart?

>

> Lagna Cancer

> Rahu ---- First house (Bhaav)

> Jup (Retro), Moon, Sat (Retro) --->>> Third House

> Mer (Retro), Ketu, Ven --->>> 7th House

> Mars, Sun --->> 8th House

>

> Regards

> Rahul

>

> -- In vedic astrology , Pram Chopra

> <pramchopra1964@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rajeev

> >

> > God Bless U

> >

> > In my opinion Retrograde planet means to ask any army man to

> about turn and walk.

> >

> > If Planet is doing bad thing all of a sudden he stop doing bad

> thing until he is retrograde.

> >

> > If Planet is doing Good thing and all of a sudden he is doing

> evil thing until he is retrograde.

> >

> > What matter most is Star Lord of house Sub Lord.

> >

> > Let Us Examin this If 7th house Sub Lord is Venus and its Star

> Lord is Saturn which is Retrograde. One Will Remain Single in Whole

> Life.

> >

> > Prem Chopra

> >

> > rajee_66v <rajee_66v@> wrote:

> >

> > dear frends

> >

> > retrograde planets always hard nut to understand, as mentioned by

> > gurujans, i do agree when a planet is retro it gets chesta bala,

> >

> > chesta means attempts , hence retro planets makes natives to take

> > more than one attempt to finish task. if there is retro planets

in

> > 7th house or 7th lord being retro it take more than one attempt

> for

> > marriage. he gets alliances but get dropped.

> >

> > if 4th lord is retro he may take more than one attempt to

> construct

> > his house , may applicabe to his eductaion where he may change

his

> > course selected. similarly it is aplicable to 12 bhava lords..

> >

> > important is if lagna lord is retro person may have difficulty in

> > taking right decesions, or his social status will be keep

> ocilating.

> >

> > retro planets lacks stability hence results pertaing to it is

> similar

> >

> > like wise in horoscope where there is more than one planet retro,

> we

> > may see unstability to higher extent

> >

> > dasha anater dasha of rahu/ketu and retro planets and vice versa

> may

> > triggers things ..quite amazingly

> >

> > we have to take into consederation in which constellation it is

> > placed , if it is placed in chara/ugra rasi or nakshtaras again

> > that add ups where as its placement in soumya nakshatra/rashi can

> > be toularable.

> >

> > and this is important in analyzing rajyoga and other combinations

> to

> > time dasa anaterdasha results

> >

> > retro planet may not need support of mars or sun in transist to

> > trigger event where as non retro planet.

> >

> > always results are felt in transist speacially when planet get

> retro

> > or rahu ketu change sign where in other case event occurs a bit

> late

> > till either mars or sun activates the event

> >

> > but

> >

> > if retro planet is aspected by jupiter or venus it tends to calm

> > down a bit but still has tint of retro effects..

> >

> > mars is planet of action hence PAC of mars and retro planet may

be

> > additive while satrun may be minimizing.

> >

> > we have noticed effect of retro mars and retro satrun, both the

> > planets are quite opposite in tatva and gunas. hence easily

> > reflected where as jupiter venus and mercurian effect is lesser

> > seen, and takes times to feel retro effect.

> >

> > Need Mail bonding?

> > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers

users.

> >

March 26, 2007

This is one concept that confuses me, because I keep hearing

conflicting views. Some people say a planet becomes weak due to

retrogression, while others claim they gain chesta bala and become

powerful. My jupiter, for instance, is retro, and some astrologers say

it's weak, but its shadbala (in rupas) happens to be 9.30.

The same astrologers say venus is strong, but its shadbala is very

poor, under 5. It's not retro either. Still others claim a debilitated

planet acts like an exalted one if retro! Maybe, learned members could

simplify these, so we can understand which is true and which isn't.

Regards,

Suresh (15/1/78, chennai, 10.20am)

vedic astrology , NAWAB RAHUL <cool_extacy

wrote:

>

> Respected Astrologers,

>

> As Prem Ji said in his earlier post. According to him, Retrograde

planets infact do bad to the effect of the planet and its power, then

why do we say that it gains chesta bala when in fact it starts giving

bad results as compared to straight planets.

>

> I myself have Juipiter, Mercury and Saturn retrograde in my chart.

Can any of the astrologers examine my chart and tel me what Good/Bad

results it will give to me. I did note that many effects as described

by Prem ji in his earlier post proves correct in my case.

>

> my DOB 22nd Feb 1981

> Place Jhansi (UP, India)

> Time 16:45

>

> Saturn is 7th Lord and is retrograde...is that the reason that I

keep on getting failed attempts on my love affairs??....Juipiter is

Lord of 9th and 6th house and is retrograde.Mercury is lord of 12th

and 3rd and is retrograde. Lagna is Cancer.

>

> Someone on this forum told me that Gaj Kesari Yoga also gets

nullified in my chart due to retrograde Juipiter and Saturn's

Conjunction. So what are the good effects of having retrograde planets

if any, specifically as related to my chart?

>

> Lagna Cancer

> Rahu ---- First house (Bhaav)

> Jup (Retro), Moon, Sat (Retro) --->>> Third House

> Mer (Retro), Ketu, Ven --->>> 7th House

> Mars, Sun --->> 8th House

>

> Regards

> Rahul

>

> -- In vedic astrology , Pram Chopra

> <pramchopra1964@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rajeev

> >

> > God Bless U

> >

> > In my opinion Retrograde planet means to ask any army man to

> about turn and walk.

> >

> > If Planet is doing bad thing all of a sudden he stop doing bad

> thing until he is retrograde.

> >

> > If Planet is doing Good thing and all of a sudden he is doing

> evil thing until he is retrograde.

> >

> > What matter most is Star Lord of house Sub Lord.

> >

> > Let Us Examin this If 7th house Sub Lord is Venus and its Star

> Lord is Saturn which is Retrograde. One Will Remain Single in Whole

> Life.

> >

> > Prem Chopra

> >

> > rajee_66v <rajee_66v@> wrote:

> >

> > dear frends

> >

> > retrograde planets always hard nut to understand, as mentioned by

> > gurujans, i do agree when a planet is retro it gets chesta bala,

> >

> > chesta means attempts , hence retro planets makes natives to take

> > more than one attempt to finish task. if there is retro planets in

> > 7th house or 7th lord being retro it take more than one attempt

> for

> > marriage. he gets alliances but get dropped.

> >

> > if 4th lord is retro he may take more than one attempt to

> construct

> > his house , may applicabe to his eductaion where he may change his

> > course selected. similarly it is aplicable to 12 bhava lords..

> >

> > important is if lagna lord is retro person may have difficulty in

> > taking right decesions, or his social status will be keep

> ocilating.

> >

> > retro planets lacks stability hence results pertaing to it is

> similar

> >

> > like wise in horoscope where there is more than one planet retro,

> we

> > may see unstability to higher extent

> >

> > dasha anater dasha of rahu/ketu and retro planets and vice versa

> may

> > triggers things ..quite amazingly

> >

> > we have to take into consederation in which constellation it is

> > placed , if it is placed in chara/ugra rasi or nakshtaras again

> > that add ups where as its placement in soumya nakshatra/rashi can

> > be toularable.

> >

> > and this is important in analyzing rajyoga and other combinations

> to

> > time dasa anaterdasha results

> >

> > retro planet may not need support of mars or sun in transist to

> > trigger event where as non retro planet.

> >

> > always results are felt in transist speacially when planet get

> retro

> > or rahu ketu change sign where in other case event occurs a bit

> late

> > till either mars or sun activates the event

> >

> > but

> >

> > if retro planet is aspected by jupiter or venus it tends to calm

> > down a bit but still has tint of retro effects..

> >

> > mars is planet of action hence PAC of mars and retro planet may be

> > additive while satrun may be minimizing.

> >

> > we have noticed effect of retro mars and retro satrun, both the

> > planets are quite opposite in tatva and gunas. hence easily

> > reflected where as jupiter venus and mercurian effect is lesser

> > seen, and takes times to feel retro effect.

> >

> > Need Mail bonding?

> > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users.

> >

March 26, 2007

Dear Shri. Balaji:

Yes....we can see the same pattern. What is more....in this case,

Mars as the lord of the 7th and 12th houses is retrograde in the 3rd

house.....mix up the significations and the general effects of

retrograde Mars and you will get an interesting clue for this life

script!

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

vedic astrology , Ramanathan Balaji

<vaideeswarr wrote:

>

> Respected sir,

>

> Sir whether we can see the same pattern of bahaviour of the

native who has Debilitated mars in 3rd .i.e for Asc taurus, mars in

cancer?

>

> Ramanathan Balaji

>

> dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer

wrote:

> Dear Member:

>

> You have got it right.

>

> People with Mars retrograde in their horoscopes tend to delay

> expression of anger but the feelings of resentment are deep

within.

> Then when they finally explode, the fireworks are to be seen to

be

> believed!

>

> Generally persons with Mars retrograde tend to have an innate

> aggressive instinct that can be masked only to a certain extent

> however cultured and sophisticated they are.

>

> The power of their anger has an almost electric character

stupefying

> and transfixing those who experience it! Luckily most of these

> natives can be taught to control the expression of that anger,

and

> in such cases they will seem to be quite harmless on most

> occasions. However, the energy is lurking just beneath the

surface

> of icy cool, ready to come to the aid of the native if situations

> demand that.

>

> A person who rather goes after the throat of his/ her would=be

> assailant rather than negotiate in the face of a loaded gun is

more

> likely to have a retrograde Mars. I know of an incidence

concerning

> a Mars retrograde native (he was born in Mesha lagna with Mars in

> the 3rd house retrograde). Typically, he is of a gentle and

smiling

> countenance. But on 3 or 4 occasions when his life was in danger

> from hired thugs, the transformation was astounding. It is

really a

> sight to see hired rowdy elements with Guns in hands running for

> their lives with fear absolutely palpable on their faces after

> receiving the treatment from our friend! He was not afraid even

> after he was surrounded by 4 of them with guns in their hands.

He

> did not waste time negotiating or looking for help around; he

just

> went for it so much that they had to run. Of course, he was

trained

> in martial arts and did regular exercises,etc. But for a normal

> person living a peaceful life to react like that in the face of

> threat WITHOUT ANY TRACE OF FEAR and on the contrary taking the

> battle to the enemy's terrain so to say is really typical of

> retrograde Mars in the vikrama sthaanaa is it not? This person

> otherwise is a very genial type.

>

> I have noted another thing also with that person. He is capable

of

> writing with a stinging wit if he is upset with somebody. (Mars

> retrograde in the 3rd house indicating communications).

>

> You can also combine the house lordship and placement of

retrograde

> Mars and analyze how these natives behave for your learning

purposes.

> In fact, this goes true for almost all retrograde planets. You

will

> find a definite pattern.

>

> We can say that the " retrograde planets express their unique

> qualities in activities concerned/ governed by the house in which

> they are placed and the expression carries the stamp of the house

> over which they rule. "

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > Thanks for this very enlightening clarification.

> >

> > Would Mars retro native be more or less angry than a direct

mars in

> > the same house and sign (let's say in Aries).

> >

> > Would it be that this native has a deep anger but delays

> expressing it?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Shiva

> >

> > > >

> > > > On 3/11/07, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > >

> > > > > A retrograde planet attains " Cheshta bala " - one of the

six

> > > sources

> > > > > of shadbala of a planet. Even a debilitated planet in

> retrograde

> > > > > motion will attain strength by virtue of its retrograde

> motion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually retrograde planets indicate past life imprints

> regarding

> > > > > that sector of life indicated by the planet concerned.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from the above, retrograde planets indicate certain

> special

> > > > > tendencies in the natives concerned. I am listing that

below:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mercury retrograde in the natal chart indicates that the

> native

> > > may

> > > > > be highly introspective (to the extent that the native

may

> have

> > > full-

> > > > > blown conversations or discussions with an alter-ego

within

> > > > > themselves in certain cases; this is not a psychopathic

> condition

> > > > > but a case of hyper-developed conscience or inner

voice!).

> These

> > > > > individuals frequently talk to themselves within

themselves

> and

> > > can

> > > > > motivate themselves. They show unusual intelligence with

> numbers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter retrograde gives indomitable will power to a

> > > > > native. " Mission impossible " churns them on to challenge;

> they

> > > are

> > > > > born to take on tasks that others will find unappealing.

> This is

> > > > > the sign of a potential crusader who dares to differ and

> chalk

> > > his

> > > > > own path in life. Challenges spur them on. They succeed

where

> > > > > others fail usually. An entrepreneur who buys a sick unit

and

> > > > > dramatically turns it around to a winning combination

within

> > > years

> > > > > probably will have retrograde Jupiter in natal chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus retrograde gives unusual or eccentric tastes for an

> > > > > individual. They have unique preferences especially in

> romantic

> > > > > matters.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars retrograde signifies the warrior with a never-say-die

> > > > > attitude. They possess wonderful equanimity of mind even

> though

> > > > > their outer expressions may betray their powerful

emotions.

> This

> > > is

> > > > > a potentially advantageous planetary motion for a General

or

> a

> > > > > surgeon who have to take instant decisions within

specified

> time

> > > > > without any tremblings of the heart to spoil their

> calculations.

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn retrograde gives a loner attitude. Though the

person

> may

> > > > > seem to be outwardly gregarious, they live a life for

> themselves

> > > > > within themselves. If other indications in the chart

support

> it,

> > > > > these persons become ascetics in later life having

> understood the

> > > > > futility of this material existence.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from this, if an astrologer wants to know the

effects

> of

> > > Sun

> > > > > or Moon retrograde......what should you conclude?......THE

> > > > > ASTROLOGER HAS TO GET HIS BASICS IN ASTRONOMY STRONG

because

> the

> > > > > luminaries Sun and Moon have no retrograde motion as the

> > > placement

> > > > > of planets with respect to the Sun only cause this

apparent

> > > > > phenomenon called retrograde motion. Moon being a

reflection

> of

> > > Sun

> > > > > is never retrograde. The nodes are always retrograde!

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > " Smt. Anju Sharma "

> > > > > <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > well, it can be.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > 40>

> > > > > > Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM

> > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How

do

> > > > > astrologer take???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Anju Sharma

> > > > > >

> > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In My Opinion All depends on the star lord of the

planet

> if it

> > > > > is direct retrogration doesn't matter at all.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prem Chopra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ju Sharma " <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > As per my limited knowledge and understanding of

astrology;

> > > > > > Retrogration of a planet is related with its strength

and

> > > > > influence over a nativity. If the concerned planet is

> benefic, it

> > > > > will have more power to provide benefic results, if

malefic

> vice-

> > > > > versa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > balkrishnatalele

> > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > 40>

> > > > > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:43 AM

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How do

> > > astrologer

> > > > > take???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > OM Shri GANESHA NAMAH:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Gurujans,

> > > > > > How do an individual judge retrograde planet , does he

take

> > > > > positive

> > > > > > or negative,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some books suggest, Retrograde planets are in very

excited

> > > > > state, They

> > > > > > give results very sudden and are unpredictable,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Few of them take is negative,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In one of the horoscope I have seen 3 retrograde

planets in

> > > > > LAGNA,

> > > > > > and I failed to analysis , I went wrong and kept on

moving

> > > wrong,

> > > > > > I would like to share her data, NO I DON'T WANT

> PREDICTION,

> > > Just

> > > > > let

> > > > > > me know how to judge retrograde planet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please do let me know, How you will judge this, Because

her

> > > > > education

> > > > > > lord is Retrograde, still she has VERY GOOD education,

and

> lots

> > > > > more...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2-April-1980

> > > > > > 16:54

> > > > > > Andheri-Maharashtra-India (or MUMBAI)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > cheers

> > > > > > Talele

> > > > > >

March 26, 2007

Dear Member:

Speculating about past lives based on planetary positions is really

a tricky subject. But, as you have said, we may say that retrograde

Mars indicates that the life lesson a person has to learn to

channelise aggression correctly. If we are to believe Naadi

readings (I have done some research on that), I have found a regular

pattern as follows:

Persons with both Mars and Jupiter retrograde generally have been

either military commanders, martial arts exponents, or expert

surgeons in previous lives, have started their career with good zeal

for social service but somehow got degraded with pride and passion

in the middle and then later got reformed towards the end of that

life. So, their present life does indicate a pattern of events

where they feel they are insulted or inhibited in some way which

cannot be explained considering their status, power, or talents

(like being insulted by someone who by virtue of being lower down

the social order cannot imagine doing that! but still to this native

they may behave like that; or they do not get expected marks in

examinations leading to their disappointment; or they fail to get

medical seats though they are innately blessed with healing powers;

or military/ administrative careers which start with much promise

suddenly get snatched from them by accidents or inexplicable

circumstances). Generally these persons are exposed to circumstances

where a show of anger could be justified; the circumstances seem to

keep prodding the native to react angrily and they have to fight a

constant struggle to control themselves.

Actually, retrogrades can actually mean hidden potentials. Like the

incident I have related in my earlier mail, I very much doubt if the

person in question would be alive today if not for the qualities he

displayed typical of a retrograde Mars! CHANNELISING THE AGGRESSION

CORRECTLY IS THE LESSON TO BE LEARNT THAT IS ALL. There is

nothing " wrong " or " negative " or for that matter " positive " about

that.

Praying to Lord Hanuman is actually good for persons with retrograde

Mars. Lord Hanumaan was a typical example of how a courageous and

strong person can also be obedient, humble, and possessed of

excellent qualities. Praying to HIm will help in channelizing the

instincts productively. But, we cannot say that Mars will

become " direct " by that prayers; we can say that praying to Lord

Hanumaan or chanting Chandi Paath can help the person concerned to

tap the " higher and positive " potential of retrograde Mars (like

become expert healers, good yogic experts/ skills trainers, army

commanders, etc.).

In your case, praying to Lord Hanumaan will be good.

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

<theblisswithin wrote:

>

> Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji

>

> Thanks for your insightful detailed reply! It was great to learn

that.

> We indeed are blessed to have you here.

>

> May I ask two brief follow up questions. First: were these natives

in

> some kind of military positions in last lives and therefore it is

> their life lesson this life to learn to tame their anger?

>

> Second, would worshipping Lord Hanuman make the Mars direct. That

> might perhaps help them express aggression easily and rather

> peacefully and not repress it. Or, will it make them even angrier,

> since it will activate the mars.

>

> Someone recommended me that in view of my current Sade Sati, 2nd

> phase. But I have Mars retro in Aries in 11th house, third from AL.

> Two days later I fell down hard on my head,bled,still have a scar

and

> money was stolen from my mother(mars aspects moon too). So I

stopped

> doing that. I am wondering what happened.

>

> I am sorry I somehow missed this post earlier. Noticed just now,

> otherwise I would have responded earlier.

>

> Many thanks again and pranams

> Shiva

>

> vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Member:

> >

> > You have got it right.

> >

> > People with Mars retrograde in their horoscopes tend to delay

> > expression of anger but the feelings of resentment are deep

within.

> > Then when they finally explode, the fireworks are to be seen to

be

> > believed!

> >

> > Generally persons with Mars retrograde tend to have an innate

> > aggressive instinct that can be masked only to a certain extent

> > however cultured and sophisticated they are.

> >

> > The power of their anger has an almost electric character

stupefying

> > and transfixing those who experience it! Luckily most of these

> > natives can be taught to control the expression of that anger,

and

> > in such cases they will seem to be quite harmless on most

> > occasions. However, the energy is lurking just beneath the

surface

> > of icy cool, ready to come to the aid of the native if

situations

> > demand that.

> >

> > A person who rather goes after the throat of his/ her would=be

> > assailant rather than negotiate in the face of a loaded gun is

more

> > likely to have a retrograde Mars. I know of an incidence

concerning

> > a Mars retrograde native (he was born in Mesha lagna with Mars

in

> > the 3rd house retrograde). Typically, he is of a gentle and

smiling

> > countenance. But on 3 or 4 occasions when his life was in

danger

> > from hired thugs, the transformation was astounding. It is

really a

> > sight to see hired rowdy elements with Guns in hands running for

> > their lives with fear absolutely palpable on their faces after

> > receiving the treatment from our friend! He was not afraid even

> > after he was surrounded by 4 of them with guns in their hands.

He

> > did not waste time negotiating or looking for help around; he

just

> > went for it so much that they had to run. Of course, he was

trained

> > in martial arts and did regular exercises,etc. But for a normal

> > person living a peaceful life to react like that in the face of

> > threat WITHOUT ANY TRACE OF FEAR and on the contrary taking the

> > battle to the enemy's terrain so to say is really typical of

> > retrograde Mars in the vikrama sthaanaa is it not? This person

> > otherwise is a very genial type.

> >

> > I have noted another thing also with that person. He is capable

of

> > writing with a stinging wit if he is upset with somebody. (Mars

> > retrograde in the 3rd house indicating communications).

> >

> > You can also combine the house lordship and placement of

retrograde

> > Mars and analyze how these natives behave for your learning

purposes.

> > In fact, this goes true for almost all retrograde planets. You

will

> > find a definite pattern.

> >

> > We can say that the " retrograde planets express their unique

> > qualities in activities concerned/ governed by the house in

which

> > they are placed and the expression carries the stamp of the

house

> > over which they rule. "

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> > <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > > Thanks for this very enlightening clarification.

> > >

> > > Would Mars retro native be more or less angry than a direct

mars in

> > > the same house and sign (let's say in Aries).

> > >

> > > Would it be that this native has a deep anger but delays

> > expressing it?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Shiva

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 3/11/07, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A retrograde planet attains " Cheshta bala " - one of the

six

> > > > sources

> > > > > > of shadbala of a planet. Even a debilitated planet in

> > retrograde

> > > > > > motion will attain strength by virtue of its retrograde

> > motion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Actually retrograde planets indicate past life imprints

> > regarding

> > > > > > that sector of life indicated by the planet concerned.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Apart from the above, retrograde planets indicate

certain

> > special

> > > > > > tendencies in the natives concerned. I am listing that

below:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mercury retrograde in the natal chart indicates that the

> > native

> > > > may

> > > > > > be highly introspective (to the extent that the native

may

> > have

> > > > full-

> > > > > > blown conversations or discussions with an alter-ego

within

> > > > > > themselves in certain cases; this is not a psychopathic

> > condition

> > > > > > but a case of hyper-developed conscience or inner

voice!).

> > These

> > > > > > individuals frequently talk to themselves within

themselves

> > and

> > > > can

> > > > > > motivate themselves. They show unusual intelligence with

> > numbers.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jupiter retrograde gives indomitable will power to a

> > > > > > native. " Mission impossible " churns them on to

challenge;

> > they

> > > > are

> > > > > > born to take on tasks that others will find unappealing.

> > This is

> > > > > > the sign of a potential crusader who dares to differ and

> > chalk

> > > > his

> > > > > > own path in life. Challenges spur them on. They succeed

where

> > > > > > others fail usually. An entrepreneur who buys a sick

unit and

> > > > > > dramatically turns it around to a winning combination

within

> > > > years

> > > > > > probably will have retrograde Jupiter in natal chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venus retrograde gives unusual or eccentric tastes for an

> > > > > > individual. They have unique preferences especially in

> > romantic

> > > > > > matters.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mars retrograde signifies the warrior with a never-say-

die

> > > > > > attitude. They possess wonderful equanimity of mind even

> > though

> > > > > > their outer expressions may betray their powerful

emotions.

> > This

> > > > is

> > > > > > a potentially advantageous planetary motion for a

General or

> > a

> > > > > > surgeon who have to take instant decisions within

specified

> > time

> > > > > > without any tremblings of the heart to spoil their

> > calculations.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saturn retrograde gives a loner attitude. Though the

person

> > may

> > > > > > seem to be outwardly gregarious, they live a life for

> > themselves

> > > > > > within themselves. If other indications in the chart

support

> > it,

> > > > > > these persons become ascetics in later life having

> > understood the

> > > > > > futility of this material existence.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Apart from this, if an astrologer wants to know the

effects

> > of

> > > > Sun

> > > > > > or Moon retrograde......what should you

conclude?......THE

> > > > > > ASTROLOGER HAS TO GET HIS BASICS IN ASTRONOMY STRONG

because

> > the

> > > > > > luminaries Sun and Moon have no retrograde motion as the

> > > > placement

> > > > > > of planets with respect to the Sun only cause this

apparent

> > > > > > phenomenon called retrograde motion. Moon being a

reflection

> > of

> > > > Sun

> > > > > > is never retrograde. The nodes are always retrograde!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > > 40>,

> > > > > > " Smt. Anju Sharma "

> > > > > > <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > well, it can be.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > > 40>

> > > > > > > Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM

> > > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How

do

> > > > > > astrologer take???

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Anju Sharma

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In My Opinion All depends on the star lord of the

planet

> > if it

> > > > > > is direct retrogration doesn't matter at all.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Prem Chopra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ju Sharma " <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > > As per my limited knowledge and understanding of

astrology;

> > > > > > > Retrogration of a planet is related with its strength

and

> > > > > > influence over a nativity. If the concerned planet is

> > benefic, it

> > > > > > will have more power to provide benefic results, if

malefic

> > vice-

> > > > > > versa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > balkrishnatalele

> > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > > 40>

> > > > > > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:43 AM

> > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How do

> > > > astrologer

> > > > > > take???

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > OM Shri GANESHA NAMAH:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Gurujans,

> > > > > > > How do an individual judge retrograde planet , does he

take

> > > > > > positive

> > > > > > > or negative,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Some books suggest, Retrograde planets are in very

excited

> > > > > > state, They

> > > > > > > give results very sudden and are unpredictable,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Few of them take is negative,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In one of the horoscope I have seen 3 retrograde

planets in

> > > > > > LAGNA,

> > > > > > > and I failed to analysis , I went wrong and kept on

moving

> > > > wrong,

> > > > > > > I would like to share her data, NO I DON'T WANT

> > PREDICTION,

> > > > Just

> > > > > > let

> > > > > > > me know how to judge retrograde planet.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please do let me know, How you will judge this,

Because her

> > > > > > education

> > > > > > > lord is Retrograde, still she has VERY GOOD education,

and

> > lots

> > > > > > more...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2-April-1980

> > > > > > > 16:54

> > > > > > > Andheri-Maharashtra-India (or MUMBAI)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > cheers

> > > > > > > Talele

> > > > > > >

March 26, 2007

Thanks Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

That was very insightful. I will follow your kind advise.

When you do find some time, could you comment on one related query.

Tropical/western astrologers believe that taking one day for one year,

it can be predicted when a planet will go 'direct'. If a planet went

direct x number of days after birth. Then after x number of years in

essence, according to them, it will start showing the 'direct' affects.

Does jyotish also believe something similar. This will be my last

question about this. Thanks for your patience and generosity.

I am quite ignorant in these matters. Moreover an afflicted lagna

doesn't show a great intelligence either. But I do still wish to make

a humble suggestion. If you have not already written one, maybe you

should write a astro book with the explanations like the ones above. I

am sure in particular in the west where people search for

'psychological explanations' more than predictions, it will fill a

gap. And will also help people like me with very minimal technical

knowledge but a great thirst to 'know thyself' through Jyotish in a

easy to read, yet very profound content.

Pranams

Shiva

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Member:

>

> Speculating about past lives based on planetary positions is really

> a tricky subject. But, as you have said, we may say that retrograde

> Mars indicates that the life lesson a person has to learn to

> channelise aggression correctly. If we are to believe Naadi

> readings (I have done some research on that), I have found a regular

> pattern as follows:

>

> Persons with both Mars and Jupiter retrograde generally have been

> either military commanders, martial arts exponents, or expert

> surgeons in previous lives, have started their career with good zeal

> for social service but somehow got degraded with pride and passion

> in the middle and then later got reformed towards the end of that

> life. So, their present life does indicate a pattern of events

> where they feel they are insulted or inhibited in some way which

> cannot be explained considering their status, power, or talents

> (like being insulted by someone who by virtue of being lower down

> the social order cannot imagine doing that! but still to this native

> they may behave like that; or they do not get expected marks in

> examinations leading to their disappointment; or they fail to get

> medical seats though they are innately blessed with healing powers;

> or military/ administrative careers which start with much promise

> suddenly get snatched from them by accidents or inexplicable

> circumstances). Generally these persons are exposed to circumstances

> where a show of anger could be justified; the circumstances seem to

> keep prodding the native to react angrily and they have to fight a

> constant struggle to control themselves.

>

> Actually, retrogrades can actually mean hidden potentials. Like the

> incident I have related in my earlier mail, I very much doubt if the

> person in question would be alive today if not for the qualities he

> displayed typical of a retrograde Mars! CHANNELISING THE AGGRESSION

> CORRECTLY IS THE LESSON TO BE LEARNT THAT IS ALL. There is

> nothing " wrong " or " negative " or for that matter " positive " about

> that.

>

> Praying to Lord Hanuman is actually good for persons with retrograde

> Mars. Lord Hanumaan was a typical example of how a courageous and

> strong person can also be obedient, humble, and possessed of

> excellent qualities. Praying to HIm will help in channelizing the

> instincts productively. But, we cannot say that Mars will

> become " direct " by that prayers; we can say that praying to Lord

> Hanumaan or chanting Chandi Paath can help the person concerned to

> tap the " higher and positive " potential of retrograde Mars (like

> become expert healers, good yogic experts/ skills trainers, army

> commanders, etc.).

>

> In your case, praying to Lord Hanumaan will be good.

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji

> >

> > Thanks for your insightful detailed reply! It was great to learn

> that.

> > We indeed are blessed to have you here.

> >

> > May I ask two brief follow up questions. First: were these natives

> in

> > some kind of military positions in last lives and therefore it is

> > their life lesson this life to learn to tame their anger?

> >

> > Second, would worshipping Lord Hanuman make the Mars direct. That

> > might perhaps help them express aggression easily and rather

> > peacefully and not repress it. Or, will it make them even angrier,

> > since it will activate the mars.

> >

> > Someone recommended me that in view of my current Sade Sati, 2nd

> > phase. But I have Mars retro in Aries in 11th house, third from AL.

> > Two days later I fell down hard on my head,bled,still have a scar

> and

> > money was stolen from my mother(mars aspects moon too). So I

> stopped

> > doing that. I am wondering what happened.

> >

> > I am sorry I somehow missed this post earlier. Noticed just now,

> > otherwise I would have responded earlier.

> >

> > Many thanks again and pranams

> > Shiva

> >

> > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Member:

> > >

> > > You have got it right.

> > >

> > > People with Mars retrograde in their horoscopes tend to delay

> > > expression of anger but the feelings of resentment are deep

> within.

> > > Then when they finally explode, the fireworks are to be seen to

> be

> > > believed!

> > >

> > > Generally persons with Mars retrograde tend to have an innate

> > > aggressive instinct that can be masked only to a certain extent

> > > however cultured and sophisticated they are.

> > >

> > > The power of their anger has an almost electric character

> stupefying

> > > and transfixing those who experience it! Luckily most of these

> > > natives can be taught to control the expression of that anger,

> and

> > > in such cases they will seem to be quite harmless on most

> > > occasions. However, the energy is lurking just beneath the

> surface

> > > of icy cool, ready to come to the aid of the native if

> situations

> > > demand that.

> > >

> > > A person who rather goes after the throat of his/ her would=be

> > > assailant rather than negotiate in the face of a loaded gun is

> more

> > > likely to have a retrograde Mars. I know of an incidence

> concerning

> > > a Mars retrograde native (he was born in Mesha lagna with Mars

> in

> > > the 3rd house retrograde). Typically, he is of a gentle and

> smiling

> > > countenance. But on 3 or 4 occasions when his life was in

> danger

> > > from hired thugs, the transformation was astounding. It is

> really a

> > > sight to see hired rowdy elements with Guns in hands running for

> > > their lives with fear absolutely palpable on their faces after

> > > receiving the treatment from our friend! He was not afraid even

> > > after he was surrounded by 4 of them with guns in their hands.

> He

> > > did not waste time negotiating or looking for help around; he

> just

> > > went for it so much that they had to run. Of course, he was

> trained

> > > in martial arts and did regular exercises,etc. But for a normal

> > > person living a peaceful life to react like that in the face of

> > > threat WITHOUT ANY TRACE OF FEAR and on the contrary taking the

> > > battle to the enemy's terrain so to say is really typical of

> > > retrograde Mars in the vikrama sthaanaa is it not? This person

> > > otherwise is a very genial type.

> > >

> > > I have noted another thing also with that person. He is capable

> of

> > > writing with a stinging wit if he is upset with somebody. (Mars

> > > retrograde in the 3rd house indicating communications).

> > >

> > > You can also combine the house lordship and placement of

> retrograde

> > > Mars and analyze how these natives behave for your learning

> purposes.

> > > In fact, this goes true for almost all retrograde planets. You

> will

> > > find a definite pattern.

> > >

> > > We can say that the " retrograde planets express their unique

> > > qualities in activities concerned/ governed by the house in

> which

> > > they are placed and the expression carries the stamp of the

> house

> > > over which they rule. "

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> > > <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > > > Thanks for this very enlightening clarification.

> > > >

> > > > Would Mars retro native be more or less angry than a direct

> mars in

> > > > the same house and sign (let's say in Aries).

> > > >

> > > > Would it be that this native has a deep anger but delays

> > > expressing it?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Shiva

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 3/11/07, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A retrograde planet attains " Cheshta bala " - one of the

> six

> > > > > sources

> > > > > > > of shadbala of a planet. Even a debilitated planet in

> > > retrograde

> > > > > > > motion will attain strength by virtue of its retrograde

> > > motion.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Actually retrograde planets indicate past life imprints

> > > regarding

> > > > > > > that sector of life indicated by the planet concerned.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Apart from the above, retrograde planets indicate

> certain

> > > special

> > > > > > > tendencies in the natives concerned. I am listing that

> below:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mercury retrograde in the natal chart indicates that the

> > > native

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > be highly introspective (to the extent that the native

> may

> > > have

> > > > > full-

> > > > > > > blown conversations or discussions with an alter-ego

> within

> > > > > > > themselves in certain cases; this is not a psychopathic

> > > condition

> > > > > > > but a case of hyper-developed conscience or inner

> voice!).

> > > These

> > > > > > > individuals frequently talk to themselves within

> themselves

> > > and

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > motivate themselves. They show unusual intelligence with

> > > numbers.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jupiter retrograde gives indomitable will power to a

> > > > > > > native. " Mission impossible " churns them on to

> challenge;

> > > they

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > born to take on tasks that others will find unappealing.

> > > This is

> > > > > > > the sign of a potential crusader who dares to differ and

> > > chalk

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > own path in life. Challenges spur them on. They succeed

> where

> > > > > > > others fail usually. An entrepreneur who buys a sick

> unit and

> > > > > > > dramatically turns it around to a winning combination

> within

> > > > > years

> > > > > > > probably will have retrograde Jupiter in natal chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Venus retrograde gives unusual or eccentric tastes for an

> > > > > > > individual. They have unique preferences especially in

> > > romantic

> > > > > > > matters.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars retrograde signifies the warrior with a never-say-

> die

> > > > > > > attitude. They possess wonderful equanimity of mind even

> > > though

> > > > > > > their outer expressions may betray their powerful

> emotions.

> > > This

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > a potentially advantageous planetary motion for a

> General or

> > > a

> > > > > > > surgeon who have to take instant decisions within

> specified

> > > time

> > > > > > > without any tremblings of the heart to spoil their

> > > calculations.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Saturn retrograde gives a loner attitude. Though the

> person

> > > may

> > > > > > > seem to be outwardly gregarious, they live a life for

> > > themselves

> > > > > > > within themselves. If other indications in the chart

> support

> > > it,

> > > > > > > these persons become ascetics in later life having

> > > understood the

> > > > > > > futility of this material existence.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Apart from this, if an astrologer wants to know the

> effects

> > > of

> > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > or Moon retrograde......what should you

> conclude?......THE

> > > > > > > ASTROLOGER HAS TO GET HIS BASICS IN ASTRONOMY STRONG

> because

> > > the

> > > > > > > luminaries Sun and Moon have no retrograde motion as the

> > > > > placement

> > > > > > > of planets with respect to the Sun only cause this

> apparent

> > > > > > > phenomenon called retrograde motion. Moon being a

> reflection

> > > of

> > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > is never retrograde. The nodes are always retrograde!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > " Smt. Anju Sharma "

> > > > > > > <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > well, it can be.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM

> > > > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How

> do

> > > > > > > astrologer take???

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In My Opinion All depends on the star lord of the

> planet

> > > if it

> > > > > > > is direct retrogration doesn't matter at all.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Prem Chopra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ju Sharma " <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > As per my limited knowledge and understanding of

> astrology;

> > > > > > > > Retrogration of a planet is related with its strength

> and

> > > > > > > influence over a nativity. If the concerned planet is

> > > benefic, it

> > > > > > > will have more power to provide benefic results, if

> malefic

> > > vice-

> > > > > > > versa.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > balkrishnatalele

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:43 AM

> > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How do

> > > > > astrologer

> > > > > > > take???

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > OM Shri GANESHA NAMAH:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi Gurujans,

> > > > > > > > How do an individual judge retrograde planet , does he

> take

> > > > > > > positive

> > > > > > > > or negative,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Some books suggest, Retrograde planets are in very

> excited

> > > > > > > state, They

> > > > > > > > give results very sudden and are unpredictable,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Few of them take is negative,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In one of the horoscope I have seen 3 retrograde

> planets in

> > > > > > > LAGNA,

> > > > > > > > and I failed to analysis , I went wrong and kept on

> moving

> > > > > wrong,

> > > > > > > > I would like to share her data, NO I DON'T WANT

> > > PREDICTION,

> > > > > Just

> > > > > > > let

> > > > > > > > me know how to judge retrograde planet.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please do let me know, How you will judge this,

> Because her

> > > > > > > education

> > > > > > > > lord is Retrograde, still she has VERY GOOD education,

> and

> > > lots

> > > > > > > more...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2-April-1980

> > > > > > > > 16:54

> > > > > > > > Andheri-Maharashtra-India (or MUMBAI)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > cheers

> > > > > > > > Talele

> > > > > > > >

March 26, 2007

Dear Shri. Shiva:

No. In vedic jyotish the belief that after x no. of years, the

planet turns direct does not exist.....For that matter, even in

Western astrology, the principle - if I am not wrong - is different

from what you have suggested in your post.....

That is, if a planet went direct " X " days after birth (it also works

in the reverse; check the date from which the planet actually turned

retrograde looking back a few days/ months from date of birth), it

does not behave like a " direct " planet after " x " no. of years (where

no. of days before it turns direct = no. of years); rather, the xth

year will prove to be very significant in some way connected with

the significations of the planet. I have seen it working in real

cases also. I hope this clarifies matters.

Regarding the suggestion of book writing, I am also very much

interested in writing one on Psychological applications of

Astrology. For that I must get good publishers approaching me with

offers (I personally hate red-tape and canvassing; I am a free-bird

by nature and will happily disseminate what little knowledge I have

gathered to the really curious and interested souls rather than

bargain with hard-nosed business sharks. But, if a really

interested samaritan approaches me, I will be most glad to do the

needful) Anyway, thanks for the suggestion and the respect and

regards you seem to have for my knowledge. I am honoured by such

sincere appraisals from enthusiasts like you and this is the best

award and recognition that is closest to my heart. I am sure one

day I will pen a good book as you have suggested by God's Grace. As

of now, I am trying to use astro-psychological principles in

practical applications such as organizational role planning using

astrology, soft skills training methodologies based on one's

horoscope, etc. I am doing this on an individual basis to clients

who approach me for skills training/ counselling/ career role

planning. I will be most happy if some corporate organization is

willing to experiment with all these. The knowledge gained from

such experiments will be give additional valuable inputs to such a

psychological perspective on astrology. Let us see what God

Wills.....

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

<theblisswithin wrote:

>

> Thanks Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> That was very insightful. I will follow your kind advise.

>

> When you do find some time, could you comment on one related query.

> Tropical/western astrologers believe that taking one day for one

year,

> it can be predicted when a planet will go 'direct'. If a planet

went

> direct x number of days after birth. Then after x number of years

in

> essence, according to them, it will start showing the 'direct'

affects.

>

> Does jyotish also believe something similar. This will be my last

> question about this. Thanks for your patience and generosity.

>

> I am quite ignorant in these matters. Moreover an afflicted lagna

> doesn't show a great intelligence either. But I do still wish to

make

> a humble suggestion. If you have not already written one, maybe you

> should write a astro book with the explanations like the ones

above. I

> am sure in particular in the west where people search for

> 'psychological explanations' more than predictions, it will fill a

> gap. And will also help people like me with very minimal technical

> knowledge but a great thirst to 'know thyself' through Jyotish in a

> easy to read, yet very profound content.

>

> Pranams

> Shiva

>

> vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Member:

> >

> > Speculating about past lives based on planetary positions is

really

> > a tricky subject. But, as you have said, we may say that

retrograde

> > Mars indicates that the life lesson a person has to learn to

> > channelise aggression correctly. If we are to believe Naadi

> > readings (I have done some research on that), I have found a

regular

> > pattern as follows:

> >

> > Persons with both Mars and Jupiter retrograde generally have

been

> > either military commanders, martial arts exponents, or expert

> > surgeons in previous lives, have started their career with good

zeal

> > for social service but somehow got degraded with pride and

passion

> > in the middle and then later got reformed towards the end of

that

> > life. So, their present life does indicate a pattern of events

> > where they feel they are insulted or inhibited in some way which

> > cannot be explained considering their status, power, or talents

> > (like being insulted by someone who by virtue of being lower

down

> > the social order cannot imagine doing that! but still to this

native

> > they may behave like that; or they do not get expected marks in

> > examinations leading to their disappointment; or they fail to

get

> > medical seats though they are innately blessed with healing

powers;

> > or military/ administrative careers which start with much

promise

> > suddenly get snatched from them by accidents or inexplicable

> > circumstances). Generally these persons are exposed to

circumstances

> > where a show of anger could be justified; the circumstances seem

to

> > keep prodding the native to react angrily and they have to fight

a

> > constant struggle to control themselves.

> >

> > Actually, retrogrades can actually mean hidden potentials. Like

the

> > incident I have related in my earlier mail, I very much doubt if

the

> > person in question would be alive today if not for the qualities

he

> > displayed typical of a retrograde Mars! CHANNELISING THE

AGGRESSION

> > CORRECTLY IS THE LESSON TO BE LEARNT THAT IS ALL. There is

> > nothing " wrong " or " negative " or for that matter " positive "

about

> > that.

> >

> > Praying to Lord Hanuman is actually good for persons with

retrograde

> > Mars. Lord Hanumaan was a typical example of how a courageous

and

> > strong person can also be obedient, humble, and possessed of

> > excellent qualities. Praying to HIm will help in channelizing

the

> > instincts productively. But, we cannot say that Mars will

> > become " direct " by that prayers; we can say that praying to Lord

> > Hanumaan or chanting Chandi Paath can help the person concerned

to

> > tap the " higher and positive " potential of retrograde Mars (like

> > become expert healers, good yogic experts/ skills trainers, army

> > commanders, etc.).

> >

> > In your case, praying to Lord Hanumaan will be good.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> > <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji

> > >

> > > Thanks for your insightful detailed reply! It was great to

learn

> > that.

> > > We indeed are blessed to have you here.

> > >

> > > May I ask two brief follow up questions. First: were these

natives

> > in

> > > some kind of military positions in last lives and therefore it

is

> > > their life lesson this life to learn to tame their anger?

> > >

> > > Second, would worshipping Lord Hanuman make the Mars direct.

That

> > > might perhaps help them express aggression easily and rather

> > > peacefully and not repress it. Or, will it make them even

angrier,

> > > since it will activate the mars.

> > >

> > > Someone recommended me that in view of my current Sade Sati,

2nd

> > > phase. But I have Mars retro in Aries in 11th house, third

from AL.

> > > Two days later I fell down hard on my head,bled,still have a

scar

> > and

> > > money was stolen from my mother(mars aspects moon too). So I

> > stopped

> > > doing that. I am wondering what happened.

> > >

> > > I am sorry I somehow missed this post earlier. Noticed just

now,

> > > otherwise I would have responded earlier.

> > >

> > > Many thanks again and pranams

> > > Shiva

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Member:

> > > >

> > > > You have got it right.

> > > >

> > > > People with Mars retrograde in their horoscopes tend to

delay

> > > > expression of anger but the feelings of resentment are deep

> > within.

> > > > Then when they finally explode, the fireworks are to be seen

to

> > be

> > > > believed!

> > > >

> > > > Generally persons with Mars retrograde tend to have an

innate

> > > > aggressive instinct that can be masked only to a certain

extent

> > > > however cultured and sophisticated they are.

> > > >

> > > > The power of their anger has an almost electric character

> > stupefying

> > > > and transfixing those who experience it! Luckily most of

these

> > > > natives can be taught to control the expression of that

anger,

> > and

> > > > in such cases they will seem to be quite harmless on most

> > > > occasions. However, the energy is lurking just beneath the

> > surface

> > > > of icy cool, ready to come to the aid of the native if

> > situations

> > > > demand that.

> > > >

> > > > A person who rather goes after the throat of his/ her

would=be

> > > > assailant rather than negotiate in the face of a loaded gun

is

> > more

> > > > likely to have a retrograde Mars. I know of an incidence

> > concerning

> > > > a Mars retrograde native (he was born in Mesha lagna with

Mars

> > in

> > > > the 3rd house retrograde). Typically, he is of a gentle and

> > smiling

> > > > countenance. But on 3 or 4 occasions when his life was in

> > danger

> > > > from hired thugs, the transformation was astounding. It is

> > really a

> > > > sight to see hired rowdy elements with Guns in hands running

for

> > > > their lives with fear absolutely palpable on their faces

after

> > > > receiving the treatment from our friend! He was not afraid

even

> > > > after he was surrounded by 4 of them with guns in their

hands.

> > He

> > > > did not waste time negotiating or looking for help around;

he

> > just

> > > > went for it so much that they had to run. Of course, he was

> > trained

> > > > in martial arts and did regular exercises,etc. But for a

normal

> > > > person living a peaceful life to react like that in the face

of

> > > > threat WITHOUT ANY TRACE OF FEAR and on the contrary taking

the

> > > > battle to the enemy's terrain so to say is really typical of

> > > > retrograde Mars in the vikrama sthaanaa is it not? This

person

> > > > otherwise is a very genial type.

> > > >

> > > > I have noted another thing also with that person. He is

capable

> > of

> > > > writing with a stinging wit if he is upset with somebody.

(Mars

> > > > retrograde in the 3rd house indicating communications).

> > > >

> > > > You can also combine the house lordship and placement of

> > retrograde

> > > > Mars and analyze how these natives behave for your learning

> > purposes.

> > > > In fact, this goes true for almost all retrograde planets.

You

> > will

> > > > find a definite pattern.

> > > >

> > > > We can say that the " retrograde planets express their unique

> > > > qualities in activities concerned/ governed by the house in

> > which

> > > > they are placed and the expression carries the stamp of the

> > house

> > > > over which they rule. "

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> > > > <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > > > > Thanks for this very enlightening clarification.

> > > > >

> > > > > Would Mars retro native be more or less angry than a

direct

> > mars in

> > > > > the same house and sign (let's say in Aries).

> > > > >

> > > > > Would it be that this native has a deep anger but delays

> > > > expressing it?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Shiva

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 3/11/07, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A retrograde planet attains " Cheshta bala " - one of

the

> > six

> > > > > > sources

> > > > > > > > of shadbala of a planet. Even a debilitated planet

in

> > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > motion will attain strength by virtue of its

retrograde

> > > > motion.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Actually retrograde planets indicate past life

imprints

> > > > regarding

> > > > > > > > that sector of life indicated by the planet

concerned.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Apart from the above, retrograde planets indicate

> > certain

> > > > special

> > > > > > > > tendencies in the natives concerned. I am listing

that

> > below:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mercury retrograde in the natal chart indicates that

the

> > > > native

> > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > be highly introspective (to the extent that the

native

> > may

> > > > have

> > > > > > full-

> > > > > > > > blown conversations or discussions with an alter-ego

> > within

> > > > > > > > themselves in certain cases; this is not a

psychopathic

> > > > condition

> > > > > > > > but a case of hyper-developed conscience or inner

> > voice!).

> > > > These

> > > > > > > > individuals frequently talk to themselves within

> > themselves

> > > > and

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > motivate themselves. They show unusual intelligence

with

> > > > numbers.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jupiter retrograde gives indomitable will power to a

> > > > > > > > native. " Mission impossible " churns them on to

> > challenge;

> > > > they

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > born to take on tasks that others will find

unappealing.

> > > > This is

> > > > > > > > the sign of a potential crusader who dares to differ

and

> > > > chalk

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > own path in life. Challenges spur them on. They

succeed

> > where

> > > > > > > > others fail usually. An entrepreneur who buys a sick

> > unit and

> > > > > > > > dramatically turns it around to a winning

combination

> > within

> > > > > > years

> > > > > > > > probably will have retrograde Jupiter in natal chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus retrograde gives unusual or eccentric tastes

for an

> > > > > > > > individual. They have unique preferences especially

in

> > > > romantic

> > > > > > > > matters.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars retrograde signifies the warrior with a never-

say-

> > die

> > > > > > > > attitude. They possess wonderful equanimity of mind

even

> > > > though

> > > > > > > > their outer expressions may betray their powerful

> > emotions.

> > > > This

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > a potentially advantageous planetary motion for a

> > General or

> > > > a

> > > > > > > > surgeon who have to take instant decisions within

> > specified

> > > > time

> > > > > > > > without any tremblings of the heart to spoil their

> > > > calculations.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn retrograde gives a loner attitude. Though the

> > person

> > > > may

> > > > > > > > seem to be outwardly gregarious, they live a life

for

> > > > themselves

> > > > > > > > within themselves. If other indications in the chart

> > support

> > > > it,

> > > > > > > > these persons become ascetics in later life having

> > > > understood the

> > > > > > > > futility of this material existence.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Apart from this, if an astrologer wants to know the

> > effects

> > > > of

> > > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > > or Moon retrograde......what should you

> > conclude?......THE

> > > > > > > > ASTROLOGER HAS TO GET HIS BASICS IN ASTRONOMY STRONG

> > because

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > luminaries Sun and Moon have no retrograde motion as

the

> > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > of planets with respect to the Sun only cause this

> > apparent

> > > > > > > > phenomenon called retrograde motion. Moon being a

> > reflection

> > > > of

> > > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > > is never retrograde. The nodes are always retrograde!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic-

astrology%

> > > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > > " Smt. Anju Sharma "

> > > > > > > > <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > well, it can be.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic-

astrology%

> > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde-

How

> > do

> > > > > > > > astrologer take???

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In My Opinion All depends on the star lord of the

> > planet

> > > > if it

> > > > > > > > is direct retrogration doesn't matter at all.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ju Sharma " <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > As per my limited knowledge and understanding of

> > astrology;

> > > > > > > > > Retrogration of a planet is related with its

strength

> > and

> > > > > > > > influence over a nativity. If the concerned planet

is

> > > > benefic, it

> > > > > > > > will have more power to provide benefic results, if

> > malefic

> > > > vice-

> > > > > > > > versa.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > balkrishnatalele

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic-

astrology%

> > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:43 AM

> > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How

do

> > > > > > astrologer

> > > > > > > > take???

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > OM Shri GANESHA NAMAH:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi Gurujans,

> > > > > > > > > How do an individual judge retrograde planet ,

does he

> > take

> > > > > > > > positive

> > > > > > > > > or negative,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Some books suggest, Retrograde planets are in very

> > excited

> > > > > > > > state, They

> > > > > > > > > give results very sudden and are unpredictable,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Few of them take is negative,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In one of the horoscope I have seen 3 retrograde

> > planets in

> > > > > > > > LAGNA,

> > > > > > > > > and I failed to analysis , I went wrong and kept

on

> > moving

> > > > > > wrong,

> > > > > > > > > I would like to share her data, NO I DON'T WANT

> > > > PREDICTION,

> > > > > > Just

> > > > > > > > let

> > > > > > > > > me know how to judge retrograde planet.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please do let me know, How you will judge this,

> > Because her

> > > > > > > > education

> > > > > > > > > lord is Retrograde, still she has VERY GOOD

education,

> > and

> > > > lots

> > > > > > > > more...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2-April-1980

> > > > > > > > > 16:54

> > > > > > > > > Andheri-Maharashtra-India (or MUMBAI)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > cheers

> > > > > > > > > Talele

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast

> > > > > > > > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

March 26, 2007

I think this is 'progression' as utilized in western astrology, right?

The interesting thing is that in tropical astrology, there is a

timing system that is based on a degree a year progression, in other

words 120 degrees in 120 years, natal positions progressed uniformly

at the rate of a degree a year!

In Jyotish, also there is a 120 degree progression in 120 year that

is used. It is called Vimshottari dasha which is based on progressing

the natal moon through 120 degrees in 120 degrees!

The difference from tropical is that the moon is not considered to

progress through each degree at a uniform rate, but at varying rates!

Starting with aries zero (sidereal), moon progresses through the

first 13d20m in 7 years, the next 13d20m in six years, the next

similar segment in 10 years ... and so on!

RR

vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

<theblisswithin wrote:

>

> Thanks Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> That was very insightful. I will follow your kind advise.

>

> When you do find some time, could you comment on one related query.

> Tropical/western astrologers believe that taking one day for one

year,

> it can be predicted when a planet will go 'direct'. If a planet went

> direct x number of days after birth. Then after x number of years in

> essence, according to them, it will start showing the 'direct'

affects.

>

> Does jyotish also believe something similar. This will be my last

> question about this. Thanks for your patience and generosity.

>

> I am quite ignorant in these matters. Moreover an afflicted lagna

> doesn't show a great intelligence either. But I do still wish to

make

> a humble suggestion. If you have not already written one, maybe you

> should write a astro book with the explanations like the ones

above. I

> am sure in particular in the west where people search for

> 'psychological explanations' more than predictions, it will fill a

> gap. And will also help people like me with very minimal technical

> knowledge but a great thirst to 'know thyself' through Jyotish in a

> easy to read, yet very profound content.

>

> Pranams

> Shiva

>

> vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Member:

> >

> > Speculating about past lives based on planetary positions is

really

> > a tricky subject. But, as you have said, we may say that

retrograde

> > Mars indicates that the life lesson a person has to learn to

> > channelise aggression correctly. If we are to believe Naadi

> > readings (I have done some research on that), I have found a

regular

> > pattern as follows:

> >

> > Persons with both Mars and Jupiter retrograde generally have

been

> > either military commanders, martial arts exponents, or expert

> > surgeons in previous lives, have started their career with good

zeal

> > for social service but somehow got degraded with pride and

passion

> > in the middle and then later got reformed towards the end of that

> > life. So, their present life does indicate a pattern of events

> > where they feel they are insulted or inhibited in some way which

> > cannot be explained considering their status, power, or talents

> > (like being insulted by someone who by virtue of being lower down

> > the social order cannot imagine doing that! but still to this

native

> > they may behave like that; or they do not get expected marks in

> > examinations leading to their disappointment; or they fail to get

> > medical seats though they are innately blessed with healing

powers;

> > or military/ administrative careers which start with much promise

> > suddenly get snatched from them by accidents or inexplicable

> > circumstances). Generally these persons are exposed to

circumstances

> > where a show of anger could be justified; the circumstances seem

to

> > keep prodding the native to react angrily and they have to fight

a

> > constant struggle to control themselves.

> >

> > Actually, retrogrades can actually mean hidden potentials. Like

the

> > incident I have related in my earlier mail, I very much doubt if

the

> > person in question would be alive today if not for the qualities

he

> > displayed typical of a retrograde Mars! CHANNELISING THE

AGGRESSION

> > CORRECTLY IS THE LESSON TO BE LEARNT THAT IS ALL. There is

> > nothing " wrong " or " negative " or for that matter " positive " about

> > that.

> >

> > Praying to Lord Hanuman is actually good for persons with

retrograde

> > Mars. Lord Hanumaan was a typical example of how a courageous

and

> > strong person can also be obedient, humble, and possessed of

> > excellent qualities. Praying to HIm will help in channelizing

the

> > instincts productively. But, we cannot say that Mars will

> > become " direct " by that prayers; we can say that praying to Lord

> > Hanumaan or chanting Chandi Paath can help the person concerned

to

> > tap the " higher and positive " potential of retrograde Mars (like

> > become expert healers, good yogic experts/ skills trainers, army

> > commanders, etc.).

> >

> > In your case, praying to Lord Hanumaan will be good.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> > <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji

> > >

> > > Thanks for your insightful detailed reply! It was great to

learn

> > that.

> > > We indeed are blessed to have you here.

> > >

> > > May I ask two brief follow up questions. First: were these

natives

> > in

> > > some kind of military positions in last lives and therefore it

is

> > > their life lesson this life to learn to tame their anger?

> > >

> > > Second, would worshipping Lord Hanuman make the Mars direct.

That

> > > might perhaps help them express aggression easily and rather

> > > peacefully and not repress it. Or, will it make them even

angrier,

> > > since it will activate the mars.

> > >

> > > Someone recommended me that in view of my current Sade Sati, 2nd

> > > phase. But I have Mars retro in Aries in 11th house, third from

AL.

> > > Two days later I fell down hard on my head,bled,still have a

scar

> > and

> > > money was stolen from my mother(mars aspects moon too). So I

> > stopped

> > > doing that. I am wondering what happened.

> > >

> > > I am sorry I somehow missed this post earlier. Noticed just now,

> > > otherwise I would have responded earlier.

> > >

> > > Many thanks again and pranams

> > > Shiva

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Member:

> > > >

> > > > You have got it right.

> > > >

> > > > People with Mars retrograde in their horoscopes tend to delay

> > > > expression of anger but the feelings of resentment are deep

> > within.

> > > > Then when they finally explode, the fireworks are to be seen

to

> > be

> > > > believed!

> > > >

> > > > Generally persons with Mars retrograde tend to have an innate

> > > > aggressive instinct that can be masked only to a certain

extent

> > > > however cultured and sophisticated they are.

> > > >

> > > > The power of their anger has an almost electric character

> > stupefying

> > > > and transfixing those who experience it! Luckily most of

these

> > > > natives can be taught to control the expression of that

anger,

> > and

> > > > in such cases they will seem to be quite harmless on most

> > > > occasions. However, the energy is lurking just beneath the

> > surface

> > > > of icy cool, ready to come to the aid of the native if

> > situations

> > > > demand that.

> > > >

> > > > A person who rather goes after the throat of his/ her

would=be

> > > > assailant rather than negotiate in the face of a loaded gun

is

> > more

> > > > likely to have a retrograde Mars. I know of an incidence

> > concerning

> > > > a Mars retrograde native (he was born in Mesha lagna with

Mars

> > in

> > > > the 3rd house retrograde). Typically, he is of a gentle and

> > smiling

> > > > countenance. But on 3 or 4 occasions when his life was in

> > danger

> > > > from hired thugs, the transformation was astounding. It is

> > really a

> > > > sight to see hired rowdy elements with Guns in hands running

for

> > > > their lives with fear absolutely palpable on their faces

after

> > > > receiving the treatment from our friend! He was not afraid

even

> > > > after he was surrounded by 4 of them with guns in their

hands.

> > He

> > > > did not waste time negotiating or looking for help around; he

> > just

> > > > went for it so much that they had to run. Of course, he was

> > trained

> > > > in martial arts and did regular exercises,etc. But for a

normal

> > > > person living a peaceful life to react like that in the face

of

> > > > threat WITHOUT ANY TRACE OF FEAR and on the contrary taking

the

> > > > battle to the enemy's terrain so to say is really typical of

> > > > retrograde Mars in the vikrama sthaanaa is it not? This

person

> > > > otherwise is a very genial type.

> > > >

> > > > I have noted another thing also with that person. He is

capable

> > of

> > > > writing with a stinging wit if he is upset with somebody.

(Mars

> > > > retrograde in the 3rd house indicating communications).

> > > >

> > > > You can also combine the house lordship and placement of

> > retrograde

> > > > Mars and analyze how these natives behave for your learning

> > purposes.

> > > > In fact, this goes true for almost all retrograde planets.

You

> > will

> > > > find a definite pattern.

> > > >

> > > > We can say that the " retrograde planets express their unique

> > > > qualities in activities concerned/ governed by the house in

> > which

> > > > they are placed and the expression carries the stamp of the

> > house

> > > > over which they rule. "

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> > > > <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > > > > Thanks for this very enlightening clarification.

> > > > >

> > > > > Would Mars retro native be more or less angry than a direct

> > mars in

> > > > > the same house and sign (let's say in Aries).

> > > > >

> > > > > Would it be that this native has a deep anger but delays

> > > > expressing it?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Shiva

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 3/11/07, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A retrograde planet attains " Cheshta bala " - one of

the

> > six

> > > > > > sources

> > > > > > > > of shadbala of a planet. Even a debilitated planet in

> > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > motion will attain strength by virtue of its

retrograde

> > > > motion.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Actually retrograde planets indicate past life

imprints

> > > > regarding

> > > > > > > > that sector of life indicated by the planet concerned.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Apart from the above, retrograde planets indicate

> > certain

> > > > special

> > > > > > > > tendencies in the natives concerned. I am listing

that

> > below:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mercury retrograde in the natal chart indicates that

the

> > > > native

> > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > be highly introspective (to the extent that the

native

> > may

> > > > have

> > > > > > full-

> > > > > > > > blown conversations or discussions with an alter-ego

> > within

> > > > > > > > themselves in certain cases; this is not a

psychopathic

> > > > condition

> > > > > > > > but a case of hyper-developed conscience or inner

> > voice!).

> > > > These

> > > > > > > > individuals frequently talk to themselves within

> > themselves

> > > > and

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > motivate themselves. They show unusual intelligence

with

> > > > numbers.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jupiter retrograde gives indomitable will power to a

> > > > > > > > native. " Mission impossible " churns them on to

> > challenge;

> > > > they

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > born to take on tasks that others will find

unappealing.

> > > > This is

> > > > > > > > the sign of a potential crusader who dares to differ

and

> > > > chalk

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > own path in life. Challenges spur them on. They

succeed

> > where

> > > > > > > > others fail usually. An entrepreneur who buys a sick

> > unit and

> > > > > > > > dramatically turns it around to a winning combination

> > within

> > > > > > years

> > > > > > > > probably will have retrograde Jupiter in natal chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus retrograde gives unusual or eccentric tastes

for an

> > > > > > > > individual. They have unique preferences especially

in

> > > > romantic

> > > > > > > > matters.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars retrograde signifies the warrior with a never-

say-

> > die

> > > > > > > > attitude. They possess wonderful equanimity of mind

even

> > > > though

> > > > > > > > their outer expressions may betray their powerful

> > emotions.

> > > > This

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > a potentially advantageous planetary motion for a

> > General or

> > > > a

> > > > > > > > surgeon who have to take instant decisions within

> > specified

> > > > time

> > > > > > > > without any tremblings of the heart to spoil their

> > > > calculations.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn retrograde gives a loner attitude. Though the

> > person

> > > > may

> > > > > > > > seem to be outwardly gregarious, they live a life for

> > > > themselves

> > > > > > > > within themselves. If other indications in the chart

> > support

> > > > it,

> > > > > > > > these persons become ascetics in later life having

> > > > understood the

> > > > > > > > futility of this material existence.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Apart from this, if an astrologer wants to know the

> > effects

> > > > of

> > > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > > or Moon retrograde......what should you

> > conclude?......THE

> > > > > > > > ASTROLOGER HAS TO GET HIS BASICS IN ASTRONOMY STRONG

> > because

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > luminaries Sun and Moon have no retrograde motion as

the

> > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > of planets with respect to the Sun only cause this

> > apparent

> > > > > > > > phenomenon called retrograde motion. Moon being a

> > reflection

> > > > of

> > > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > > is never retrograde. The nodes are always retrograde!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic-

astrology%

> > > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > > " Smt. Anju Sharma "

> > > > > > > > <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > well, it can be.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic-

astrology%

> > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde-

How

> > do

> > > > > > > > astrologer take???

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In My Opinion All depends on the star lord of the

> > planet

> > > > if it

> > > > > > > > is direct retrogration doesn't matter at all.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ju Sharma " <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > As per my limited knowledge and understanding of

> > astrology;

> > > > > > > > > Retrogration of a planet is related with its

strength

> > and

> > > > > > > > influence over a nativity. If the concerned planet is

> > > > benefic, it

> > > > > > > > will have more power to provide benefic results, if

> > malefic

> > > > vice-

> > > > > > > > versa.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > balkrishnatalele

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic-

astrology%

> > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:43 AM

> > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How

do

> > > > > > astrologer

> > > > > > > > take???

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > OM Shri GANESHA NAMAH:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi Gurujans,

> > > > > > > > > How do an individual judge retrograde planet , does

he

> > take

> > > > > > > > positive

> > > > > > > > > or negative,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Some books suggest, Retrograde planets are in very

> > excited

> > > > > > > > state, They

> > > > > > > > > give results very sudden and are unpredictable,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Few of them take is negative,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In one of the horoscope I have seen 3 retrograde

> > planets in

> > > > > > > > LAGNA,

> > > > > > > > > and I failed to analysis , I went wrong and kept on

> > moving

> > > > > > wrong,

> > > > > > > > > I would like to share her data, NO I DON'T WANT

> > > > PREDICTION,

> > > > > > Just

> > > > > > > > let

> > > > > > > > > me know how to judge retrograde planet.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please do let me know, How you will judge this,

> > Because her

> > > > > > > > education

> > > > > > > > > lord is Retrograde, still she has VERY GOOD

education,

> > and

> > > > lots

> > > > > > > > more...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2-April-1980

> > > > > > > > > 16:54

> > > > > > > > > Andheri-Maharashtra-India (or MUMBAI)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > cheers

> > > > > > > > > Talele

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast

> > > > > > > > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

March 26, 2007

I would urge you to check your facts, separately for inferior and

superior planets and also for exalted planets, apropos the closess to

earth or not -- carefully!

RR

vedic astrology , ravi s <siddhayogiravi

wrote:

>

> whenever a planet retrogrades it will be closer to earth and very

much away from sun. Hence the effect of retro planet on earth will be

very high.The exalted plenet also will be closer to earth when it is

exalted.Therefore the retro planet will behave like an exalted planet.

>

> Ila devi dasi MVS <ila_dd_mvs wrote: Hi! I have been

battling for a long time with the concept of retrograde planets. I

have heard that benefic planets gain strength if retrograde, but

malefics become more malefic. I am presently studying a chart with

both Venus and Jupiter retro. Will Venus retro cause exessive sex

desire or no sex desire? Delay in marriage/ no marriage? Could

Jupiter retro cause delay in education / intelligence? It will depend

on the houses involved etc. but there must be some general

effects.....

>

> Thanks

> Ila

>

> Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote:

> Dear murli

>

> Now look yourself and analyse Jupiter is in 5th as a lord of 6th as

u know the 6th house is house of diseases and in 5th house making

12th position which makes separation from academic learning.

>

> Now Look Rahu star saturn is signifing 2nd, 4th, 8th, 10th as it is

envolved in sub of cusps.

>

> PLANETARY DETAILS o¨€

> PLANET CHARAN NAKSHATRA STARLORD SUBLORD SUB-SUB LORD

> Sun 1 Anuradha Saturn Saturn Mercury

> Moon 1 P.phalguni Venus Venus Venus

> Mars 3 Aslesha Mercury Rahu Jupiter

> Mercury 4 Vishakha Jupiter Mars Jupiter

> Jupiter 2 Shatbhisha Rahu Jupiter Rahu

> Venus R 1 Vishakha Jupiter Saturn Venus

> Saturn 1 Shravana Moon Rahu Venus

> Rahu 2 Pushyami Saturn Venus Saturn

> Ketu 4 Uttrashada Sun Venus Mercury

> Uranus 4 Magha Ketu Mercury Venus

> Neptune 1 Vishakha Jupiter Jupiter Saturn

> Pluto 2 P.phalguni Venus Rahu Saturn

>

> NIRAYANA CUSPS AND BHAVAS

>

> CUSP RASI DEGREE STARLORD SUBLORD SUB-SUB LORD

>

> 1 Libra 4/32/13 Mars Venus Mercury

> 2 Scorpio 3/58/11 Saturn Saturn Ketu

> 3 Sagittarius 3/37/23 Ketu Sun Venus

> 4 Capricorn 3/52/56 Sun Saturn Venus

> 5 Aquarius 5/ 3/ 8 Mars Sun Rahu

> 6 Pisces 5/56/ 6 Saturn Mercury Venus

> 7 Aries 4/32/13 Ketu Moon Venus

> 8 Taurus 3/58/11 Sun Saturn Venus

> 9 Gemini 3/37/23 Mars Venus Rahu

> 10 Cancer 3/52/56 Saturn Saturn Mercury

> 11 Leo 5/ 3/ 8 Ketu Mars Saturn

> 12 Virgo 5/56/ 6 Sun Mercury Moon

>

> Prem Chopra

>

> krishnakmurali1 <krishnakmurali1 wrote:

> Dear Prem Chopra

>

> I have retrogarde venus in lagna as lord oflagna and eight house in

> lagna. My venus dasa which started immediately after a couple of

> days from birth was not that good one. I didnot enjoy my childhood.

> I could not go to school except for 1 or 2years during the MD of

> venus. But AD of Venus in other MD is fairly good.

>

> My DOB is 20.11.1962, POB Is Hyderabad (INdia)TOB is 4.19mts(early

> morning.

>

> Hope this is useful for your analysis.

>

> I am glad to give any other details n this regard.

>

> thanks

>

> MuraliKrishna

>

> vedic astrology , Pram Chopra

> <pramchopra1964@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Balkrishna

> >

> > Do not accept this retrograde planet is stronger because in my

> opinion retrograde means the planet do not receiving sunlight and

> stop at the spot until it start receiving again.

> > for analysis send me any birth data who have planet retrograde.

> > Prem Chopra

> >

> > Balkrishna Talele <talele@> wrote:

> > To Dakshin Astrologer

> > Thanks for that very article, SO from next time any retrograde

> planet I will

> > assume it to be very powerful

> > cheers

> > Balkrishna Talele

> >

> > On 3/11/07, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members:

> > >

> > > A retrograde planet attains " Cheshta bala " - one of the six

> sources

> > > of shadbala of a planet. Even a debilitated planet in retrograde

> > > motion will attain strength by virtue of its retrograde motion.

> > >

> > > Actually retrograde planets indicate past life imprints

regarding

> > > that sector of life indicated by the planet concerned.

> > >

> > > Apart from the above, retrograde planets indicate certain

special

> > > tendencies in the natives concerned. I am listing that below:

> > >

> > > Mercury retrograde in the natal chart indicates that the native

> may

> > > be highly introspective (to the extent that the native may have

> full-

> > > blown conversations or discussions with an alter-ego within

> > > themselves in certain cases; this is not a psychopathic

condition

> > > but a case of hyper-developed conscience or inner voice!). These

> > > individuals frequently talk to themselves within themselves and

> can

> > > motivate themselves. They show unusual intelligence with

numbers.

> > >

> > > Jupiter retrograde gives indomitable will power to a

> > > native. " Mission impossible " churns them on to challenge; they

> are

> > > born to take on tasks that others will find unappealing. This is

> > > the sign of a potential crusader who dares to differ and chalk

> his

> > > own path in life. Challenges spur them on. They succeed where

> > > others fail usually. An entrepreneur who buys a sick unit and

> > > dramatically turns it around to a winning combination within

> years

> > > probably will have retrograde Jupiter in natal chart.

> > >

> > > Venus retrograde gives unusual or eccentric tastes for an

> > > individual. They have unique preferences especially in romantic

> > > matters.

> > >

> > > Mars retrograde signifies the warrior with a never-say-die

> > > attitude. They possess wonderful equanimity of mind even though

> > > their outer expressions may betray their powerful emotions.

This

> is

> > > a potentially advantageous planetary motion for a General or a

> > > surgeon who have to take instant decisions within specified time

> > > without any tremblings of the heart to spoil their calculations.

> > >

> > > Saturn retrograde gives a loner attitude. Though the person may

> > > seem to be outwardly gregarious, they live a life for themselves

> > > within themselves. If other indications in the chart support it,

> > > these persons become ascetics in later life having understood

the

> > > futility of this material existence.

> > >

> > > Apart from this, if an astrologer wants to know the effects of

> Sun

> > > or Moon retrograde......what should you conclude?......THE

> > > ASTROLOGER HAS TO GET HIS BASICS IN ASTRONOMY STRONG because the

> > > luminaries Sun and Moon have no retrograde motion as the

> placement

> > > of planets with respect to the Sun only cause this apparent

> > > phenomenon called retrograde motion. Moon being a reflection of

> Sun

> > > is never retrograde. The nodes are always retrograde!

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> 40>,

> > > " Smt. Anju Sharma "

> > > <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > well, it can be.

> > > >

> > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > -

> > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> 40>

> > > > Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM

> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How do

> > > astrologer take???

> > > >

> > > > Dear Anju Sharma

> > > >

> > > > God Bless U

> > > >

> > > > In My Opinion All depends on the star lord of the planet if it

> > > is direct retrogration doesn't matter at all.

> > > >

> > > > Prem Chopra

> > > >

> > > > www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

> > > >

> > > > ju Sharma " <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > As per my limited knowledge and understanding of astrology;

> > > > Retrogration of a planet is related with its strength and

> > > influence over a nativity. If the concerned planet is benefic,

it

> > > will have more power to provide benefic results, if malefic

vice-

> > > versa.

> > > >

> > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > -

> > > > balkrishnatalele

> > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> 40>

> > > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:43 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How do

> astrologer

> > > take???

> > > >

> > > > OM Shri GANESHA NAMAH:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Gurujans,

> > > > How do an individual judge retrograde planet , does he take

> > > positive

> > > > or negative,

> > > >

> > > > Some books suggest, Retrograde planets are in very excited

> > > state, They

> > > > give results very sudden and are unpredictable,

> > > >

> > > > Few of them take is negative,

> > > >

> > > > In one of the horoscope I have seen 3 retrograde planets in

> > > LAGNA,

> > > > and I failed to analysis , I went wrong and kept on moving

> wrong,

> > > > I would like to share her data, NO I DON'T WANT PREDICTION,

> Just

> > > let

> > > > me know how to judge retrograde planet.

> > > >

> > > > Please do let me know, How you will judge this, Because her

> > > education

> > > > lord is Retrograde, still she has VERY GOOD education, and

lots

> > > more...

> > > >

> > > > 2-April-1980

> > > > 16:54

> > > > Andheri-Maharashtra-India (or MUMBAI)

> > > >

> > > > cheers

> > > > Talele

> > > >

March 27, 2007

Dear Pandit R Dakshinamoorthi Ji and Other Gurujans,

Can you please analyse my chart with respect to the retrograde planets and

tell me what plus/minus it will bring in my professional and married life?...and

what will be my occupation?

Also can you please suggest why I am beind advised to wear Emarld

(Panna)...What should be the weight of Panna that I should wear...What finger

should it be worn in...and What Dhaatu (Gold, Silver, Panch-Dhaatu??) it should

be best worn in...Also how to do Praan-Pratishtha in the Stone?

Please Help me out, Please.....

Regards,

Rahul Trivedi

dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote:

Dear Shri. Balaji:

Yes....we can see the same pattern. What is more....in this case,

Mars as the lord of the 7th and 12th houses is retrograde in the 3rd

house.....mix up the significations and the general effects of

retrograde Mars and you will get an interesting clue for this life

script!

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

vedic astrology , Ramanathan Balaji

<vaideeswarr wrote:

>

> Respected sir,

>

> Sir whether we can see the same pattern of bahaviour of the

native who has Debilitated mars in 3rd .i.e for Asc taurus, mars in

cancer?

>

> Ramanathan Balaji

>

> dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer

wrote:

> Dear Member:

>

> You have got it right.

>

> People with Mars retrograde in their horoscopes tend to delay

> expression of anger but the feelings of resentment are deep

within.

> Then when they finally explode, the fireworks are to be seen to

be

> believed!

>

> Generally persons with Mars retrograde tend to have an innate

> aggressive instinct that can be masked only to a certain extent

> however cultured and sophisticated they are.

>

> The power of their anger has an almost electric character

stupefying

> and transfixing those who experience it! Luckily most of these

> natives can be taught to control the expression of that anger,

and

> in such cases they will seem to be quite harmless on most

> occasions. However, the energy is lurking just beneath the

surface

> of icy cool, ready to come to the aid of the native if situations

> demand that.

>

> A person who rather goes after the throat of his/ her would=be

> assailant rather than negotiate in the face of a loaded gun is

more

> likely to have a retrograde Mars. I know of an incidence

concerning

> a Mars retrograde native (he was born in Mesha lagna with Mars in

> the 3rd house retrograde). Typically, he is of a gentle and

smiling

> countenance. But on 3 or 4 occasions when his life was in danger

> from hired thugs, the transformation was astounding. It is

really a

> sight to see hired rowdy elements with Guns in hands running for

> their lives with fear absolutely palpable on their faces after

> receiving the treatment from our friend! He was not afraid even

> after he was surrounded by 4 of them with guns in their hands.

He

> did not waste time negotiating or looking for help around; he

just

> went for it so much that they had to run. Of course, he was

trained

> in martial arts and did regular exercises,etc. But for a normal

> person living a peaceful life to react like that in the face of

> threat WITHOUT ANY TRACE OF FEAR and on the contrary taking the

> battle to the enemy's terrain so to say is really typical of

> retrograde Mars in the vikrama sthaanaa is it not? This person

> otherwise is a very genial type.

>

> I have noted another thing also with that person. He is capable

of

> writing with a stinging wit if he is upset with somebody. (Mars

> retrograde in the 3rd house indicating communications).

>

> You can also combine the house lordship and placement of

retrograde

> Mars and analyze how these natives behave for your learning

purposes.

> In fact, this goes true for almost all retrograde planets. You

will

> find a definite pattern.

>

> We can say that the " retrograde planets express their unique

> qualities in activities concerned/ governed by the house in which

> they are placed and the expression carries the stamp of the house

> over which they rule. "

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > Thanks for this very enlightening clarification.

> >

> > Would Mars retro native be more or less angry than a direct

mars in

> > the same house and sign (let's say in Aries).

> >

> > Would it be that this native has a deep anger but delays

> expressing it?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Shiva

> >

> > > >

> > > > On 3/11/07, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > >

> > > > > A retrograde planet attains " Cheshta bala " - one of the

six

> > > sources

> > > > > of shadbala of a planet. Even a debilitated planet in

> retrograde

> > > > > motion will attain strength by virtue of its retrograde

> motion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually retrograde planets indicate past life imprints

> regarding

> > > > > that sector of life indicated by the planet concerned.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from the above, retrograde planets indicate certain

> special

> > > > > tendencies in the natives concerned. I am listing that

below:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mercury retrograde in the natal chart indicates that the

> native

> > > may

> > > > > be highly introspective (to the extent that the native

may

> have

> > > full-

> > > > > blown conversations or discussions with an alter-ego

within

> > > > > themselves in certain cases; this is not a psychopathic

> condition

> > > > > but a case of hyper-developed conscience or inner

voice!).

> These

> > > > > individuals frequently talk to themselves within

themselves

> and

> > > can

> > > > > motivate themselves. They show unusual intelligence with

> numbers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter retrograde gives indomitable will power to a

> > > > > native. " Mission impossible " churns them on to challenge;

> they

> > > are

> > > > > born to take on tasks that others will find unappealing.

> This is

> > > > > the sign of a potential crusader who dares to differ and

> chalk

> > > his

> > > > > own path in life. Challenges spur them on. They succeed

where

> > > > > others fail usually. An entrepreneur who buys a sick unit

and

> > > > > dramatically turns it around to a winning combination

within

> > > years

> > > > > probably will have retrograde Jupiter in natal chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus retrograde gives unusual or eccentric tastes for an

> > > > > individual. They have unique preferences especially in

> romantic

> > > > > matters.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars retrograde signifies the warrior with a never-say-die

> > > > > attitude. They possess wonderful equanimity of mind even

> though

> > > > > their outer expressions may betray their powerful

emotions.

> This

> > > is

> > > > > a potentially advantageous planetary motion for a General

or

> a

> > > > > surgeon who have to take instant decisions within

specified

> time

> > > > > without any tremblings of the heart to spoil their

> calculations.

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn retrograde gives a loner attitude. Though the

person

> may

> > > > > seem to be outwardly gregarious, they live a life for

> themselves

> > > > > within themselves. If other indications in the chart

support

> it,

> > > > > these persons become ascetics in later life having

> understood the

> > > > > futility of this material existence.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from this, if an astrologer wants to know the

effects

> of

> > > Sun

> > > > > or Moon retrograde......what should you conclude?......THE

> > > > > ASTROLOGER HAS TO GET HIS BASICS IN ASTRONOMY STRONG

because

> the

> > > > > luminaries Sun and Moon have no retrograde motion as the

> > > placement

> > > > > of planets with respect to the Sun only cause this

apparent

> > > > > phenomenon called retrograde motion. Moon being a

reflection

> of

> > > Sun

> > > > > is never retrograde. The nodes are always retrograde!

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > " Smt. Anju Sharma "

> > > > > <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > well, it can be.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > 40>

> > > > > > Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM

> > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How

do

> > > > > astrologer take???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Anju Sharma

> > > > > >

> > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In My Opinion All depends on the star lord of the

planet

> if it

> > > > > is direct retrogration doesn't matter at all.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prem Chopra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ju Sharma " <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > As per my limited knowledge and understanding of

astrology;

> > > > > > Retrogration of a planet is related with its strength

and

> > > > > influence over a nativity. If the concerned planet is

> benefic, it

> > > > > will have more power to provide benefic results, if

malefic

> vice-

> > > > > versa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > balkrishnatalele

> > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > 40>

> > > > > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:43 AM

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How do

> > > astrologer

> > > > > take???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > OM Shri GANESHA NAMAH:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Gurujans,

> > > > > > How do an individual judge retrograde planet , does he

take

> > > > > positive

> > > > > > or negative,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some books suggest, Retrograde planets are in very

excited

> > > > > state, They

> > > > > > give results very sudden and are unpredictable,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Few of them take is negative,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In one of the horoscope I have seen 3 retrograde

planets in

> > > > > LAGNA,

> > > > > > and I failed to analysis , I went wrong and kept on

moving

> > > wrong,

> > > > > > I would like to share her data, NO I DON'T WANT

> PREDICTION,

> > > Just

> > > > > let

> > > > > > me know how to judge retrograde planet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please do let me know, How you will judge this, Because

her

> > > > > education

> > > > > > lord is Retrograde, still she has VERY GOOD education,

and

> lots

> > > > > more...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2-April-1980

> > > > > > 16:54

> > > > > > Andheri-Maharashtra-India (or MUMBAI)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > cheers

> > > > > > Talele

> > > > > >

March 27, 2007

Dear Pandit R Dakshinamoorthi Ji and Other Gurujans,

Can you please analyse my chart with respect to the retrograde planets and

tell me what plus/minus it will bring in my professional and married life?...and

what will be my occupation?

Also can you please suggest why I am beind advised to wear Emarld

(Panna)...What should be the weight of Panna that I should wear...What finger

should it be worn in...and What Dhaatu (Gold, Silver, Panch-Dhaatu??) it should

be best worn in...Also how to do Praan-Pratishtha in the Stone?

Please Help me out, Please.....

I missed my Birth details in earlier post...

it is DOB 22nd Feb, 1981

Place Jhansi (UP, India)

Time 16:45

Regards,

Rahul Trivedi

dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote:

Dear Shri. Balaji:

Yes....we can see the same pattern. What is more....in this case,

Mars as the lord of the 7th and 12th houses is retrograde in the 3rd

house.....mix up the significations and the general effects of

retrograde Mars and you will get an interesting clue for this life

script!

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

vedic astrology , Ramanathan Balaji

<vaideeswarr wrote:

>

> Respected sir,

>

> Sir whether we can see the same pattern of bahaviour of the

native who has Debilitated mars in 3rd .i.e for Asc taurus, mars in

cancer?

>

> Ramanathan Balaji

>

> dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer

wrote:

> Dear Member:

>

> You have got it right.

>

> People with Mars retrograde in their horoscopes tend to delay

> expression of anger but the feelings of resentment are deep

within.

> Then when they finally explode, the fireworks are to be seen to

be

> believed!

>

> Generally persons with Mars retrograde tend to have an innate

> aggressive instinct that can be masked only to a certain extent

> however cultured and sophisticated they are.

>

> The power of their anger has an almost electric character

stupefying

> and transfixing those who experience it! Luckily most of these

> natives can be taught to control the expression of that anger,

and

> in such cases they will seem to be quite harmless on most

> occasions. However, the energy is lurking just beneath the

surface

> of icy cool, ready to come to the aid of the native if situations

> demand that.

>

> A person who rather goes after the throat of his/ her would=be

> assailant rather than negotiate in the face of a loaded gun is

more

> likely to have a retrograde Mars. I know of an incidence

concerning

> a Mars retrograde native (he was born in Mesha lagna with Mars in

> the 3rd house retrograde). Typically, he is of a gentle and

smiling

> countenance. But on 3 or 4 occasions when his life was in danger

> from hired thugs, the transformation was astounding. It is

really a

> sight to see hired rowdy elements with Guns in hands running for

> their lives with fear absolutely palpable on their faces after

> receiving the treatment from our friend! He was not afraid even

> after he was surrounded by 4 of them with guns in their hands.

He

> did not waste time negotiating or looking for help around; he

just

> went for it so much that they had to run. Of course, he was

trained

> in martial arts and did regular exercises,etc. But for a normal

> person living a peaceful life to react like that in the face of

> threat WITHOUT ANY TRACE OF FEAR and on the contrary taking the

> battle to the enemy's terrain so to say is really typical of

> retrograde Mars in the vikrama sthaanaa is it not? This person

> otherwise is a very genial type.

>

> I have noted another thing also with that person. He is capable

of

> writing with a stinging wit if he is upset with somebody. (Mars

> retrograde in the 3rd house indicating communications).

>

> You can also combine the house lordship and placement of

retrograde

> Mars and analyze how these natives behave for your learning

purposes.

> In fact, this goes true for almost all retrograde planets. You

will

> find a definite pattern.

>

> We can say that the " retrograde planets express their unique

> qualities in activities concerned/ governed by the house in which

> they are placed and the expression carries the stamp of the house

> over which they rule. "

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > Thanks for this very enlightening clarification.

> >

> > Would Mars retro native be more or less angry than a direct

mars in

> > the same house and sign (let's say in Aries).

> >

> > Would it be that this native has a deep anger but delays

> expressing it?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Shiva

> >

> > > >

> > > > On 3/11/07, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > >

> > > > > A retrograde planet attains " Cheshta bala " - one of the

six

> > > sources

> > > > > of shadbala of a planet. Even a debilitated planet in

> retrograde

> > > > > motion will attain strength by virtue of its retrograde

> motion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually retrograde planets indicate past life imprints

> regarding

> > > > > that sector of life indicated by the planet concerned.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from the above, retrograde planets indicate certain

> special

> > > > > tendencies in the natives concerned. I am listing that

below:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mercury retrograde in the natal chart indicates that the

> native

> > > may

> > > > > be highly introspective (to the extent that the native

may

> have

> > > full-

> > > > > blown conversations or discussions with an alter-ego

within

> > > > > themselves in certain cases; this is not a psychopathic

> condition

> > > > > but a case of hyper-developed conscience or inner

voice!).

> These

> > > > > individuals frequently talk to themselves within

themselves

> and

> > > can

> > > > > motivate themselves. They show unusual intelligence with

> numbers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter retrograde gives indomitable will power to a

> > > > > native. " Mission impossible " churns them on to challenge;

> they

> > > are

> > > > > born to take on tasks that others will find unappealing.

> This is

> > > > > the sign of a potential crusader who dares to differ and

> chalk

> > > his

> > > > > own path in life. Challenges spur them on. They succeed

where

> > > > > others fail usually. An entrepreneur who buys a sick unit

and

> > > > > dramatically turns it around to a winning combination

within

> > > years

> > > > > probably will have retrograde Jupiter in natal chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus retrograde gives unusual or eccentric tastes for an

> > > > > individual. They have unique preferences especially in

> romantic

> > > > > matters.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars retrograde signifies the warrior with a never-say-die

> > > > > attitude. They possess wonderful equanimity of mind even

> though

> > > > > their outer expressions may betray their powerful

emotions.

> This

> > > is

> > > > > a potentially advantageous planetary motion for a General

or

> a

> > > > > surgeon who have to take instant decisions within

specified

> time

> > > > > without any tremblings of the heart to spoil their

> calculations.

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn retrograde gives a loner attitude. Though the

person

> may

> > > > > seem to be outwardly gregarious, they live a life for

> themselves

> > > > > within themselves. If other indications in the chart

support

> it,

> > > > > these persons become ascetics in later life having

> understood the

> > > > > futility of this material existence.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from this, if an astrologer wants to know the

effects

> of

> > > Sun

> > > > > or Moon retrograde......what should you conclude?......THE

> > > > > ASTROLOGER HAS TO GET HIS BASICS IN ASTRONOMY STRONG

because

> the

> > > > > luminaries Sun and Moon have no retrograde motion as the

> > > placement

> > > > > of planets with respect to the Sun only cause this

apparent

> > > > > phenomenon called retrograde motion. Moon being a

reflection

> of

> > > Sun

> > > > > is never retrograde. The nodes are always retrograde!

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > " Smt. Anju Sharma "

> > > > > <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > well, it can be.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > 40>

> > > > > > Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM

> > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How

do

> > > > > astrologer take???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Anju Sharma

> > > > > >

> > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In My Opinion All depends on the star lord of the

planet

> if it

> > > > > is direct retrogration doesn't matter at all.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prem Chopra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ju Sharma " <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > As per my limited knowledge and understanding of

astrology;

> > > > > > Retrogration of a planet is related with its strength

and

> > > > > influence over a nativity. If the concerned planet is

> benefic, it

> > > > > will have more power to provide benefic results, if

malefic

> vice-

> > > > > versa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > balkrishnatalele

> > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

> > > 40>

> > > > > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:43 AM

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How do

> > > astrologer

> > > > > take???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > OM Shri GANESHA NAMAH:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Gurujans,

> > > > > > How do an individual judge retrograde planet , does he

take

> > > > > positive

> > > > > > or negative,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some books suggest, Retrograde planets are in very

excited

> > > > > state, They

> > > > > > give results very sudden and are unpredictable,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Few of them take is negative,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In one of the horoscope I have seen 3 retrograde

planets in

> > > > > LAGNA,

> > > > > > and I failed to analysis , I went wrong and kept on

moving

> > > wrong,

> > > > > > I would like to share her data, NO I DON'T WANT

> PREDICTION,

> > > Just

> > > > > let

> > > > > > me know how to judge retrograde planet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please do let me know, How you will judge this, Because

her

> > > > > education

> > > > > > lord is Retrograde, still she has VERY GOOD education,

and

> lots

> > > > > more...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2-April-1980

> > > > > > 16:54

> > > > > > Andheri-Maharashtra-India (or MUMBAI)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > cheers

> > > > > > Talele

> > > > > >

March 27, 2007

Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

Thanks for your kind reply. I am sure everyone here will agree the

appreciation is more than well deserved by you and that your knowledge

has benefited many. Lord works in mysterious ways and if it His will it

surely can happen. When I get to some better place in life where I can

help in these kind of ventures I would surely do it.

As for the progression of the retrogression from a tropical point of

view, once some tropical-vedic astrologer had mentioned some comment on

a sidereal board. They are the so called western sidereal astrologers,

who use a combination of tropical and vedic techniques but with a

sidereal chart. They are far and few but gaining more 'converts' with

passing time. I will have to search it again, if I find it I will post

it here.

Wishing you and all others a very auspicious Ramnavami.

Pranams

Shiva

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Shri. Shiva:

>

> No. In vedic jyotish the belief that after x no. of years, the

> planet turns direct does not exist.....For that matter, even in

> Western astrology, the principle - if I am not wrong - is different

> from what you have suggested in your post.....

>

> That is, if a planet went direct " X " days after birth (it also works

> in the reverse; check the date from which the planet actually turned

> retrograde looking back a few days/ months from date of birth), it

> does not behave like a " direct " planet after " x " no. of years (where

> no. of days before it turns direct = no. of years); rather, the xth

> year will prove to be very significant in some way connected with

> the significations of the planet. I have seen it working in real

> cases also. I hope this clarifies matters.

>

> Regarding the suggestion of book writing, I am also very much

> interested in writing one on Psychological applications of

> Astrology. For that I must get good publishers approaching me with

> offers (I personally hate red-tape and canvassing; I am a free-bird

> by nature and will happily disseminate what little knowledge I have

> gathered to the really curious and interested souls rather than

> bargain with hard-nosed business sharks. But, if a really

> interested samaritan approaches me, I will be most glad to do the

> needful) Anyway, thanks for the suggestion and the respect and

> regards you seem to have for my knowledge. I am honoured by such

> sincere appraisals from enthusiasts like you and this is the best

> award and recognition that is closest to my heart. I am sure one

> day I will pen a good book as you have suggested by God's Grace. As

> of now, I am trying to use astro-psychological principles in

> practical applications such as organizational role planning using

> astrology, soft skills training methodologies based on one's

> horoscope, etc. I am doing this on an individual basis to clients

> who approach me for skills training/ counselling/ career role

> planning. I will be most happy if some corporate organization is

> willing to experiment with all these. The knowledge gained from

> such experiments will be give additional valuable inputs to such a

> psychological perspective on astrology. Let us see what God

> Wills.....

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

>

> vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> theblisswithin@ wrote:

> >

> > Thanks Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > That was very insightful. I will follow your kind advise.

> >

> > When you do find some time, could you comment on one related query.

> > Tropical/western astrologers believe that taking one day for one

> year,

> > it can be predicted when a planet will go 'direct'. If a planet

> went

> > direct x number of days after birth. Then after x number of years

> in

> > essence, according to them, it will start showing the 'direct'

> affects.

> >

> > Does jyotish also believe something similar. This will be my last

> > question about this. Thanks for your patience and generosity.

> >

> > I am quite ignorant in these matters. Moreover an afflicted lagna

> > doesn't show a great intelligence either. But I do still wish to

> make

> > a humble suggestion. If you have not already written one, maybe you

> > should write a astro book with the explanations like the ones

> above. I

> > am sure in particular in the west where people search for

> > 'psychological explanations' more than predictions, it will fill a

> > gap. And will also help people like me with very minimal technical

> > knowledge but a great thirst to 'know thyself' through Jyotish in a

> > easy to read, yet very profound content.

> >

> > Pranams

> > Shiva

> >

> > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Member:

> > >

> > > Speculating about past lives based on planetary positions is

> really

> > > a tricky subject. But, as you have said, we may say that

> retrograde

> > > Mars indicates that the life lesson a person has to learn to

> > > channelise aggression correctly. If we are to believe Naadi

> > > readings (I have done some research on that), I have found a

> regular

> > > pattern as follows:

> > >

> > > Persons with both Mars and Jupiter retrograde generally have

> been

> > > either military commanders, martial arts exponents, or expert

> > > surgeons in previous lives, have started their career with good

> zeal

> > > for social service but somehow got degraded with pride and

> passion

> > > in the middle and then later got reformed towards the end of

> that

> > > life. So, their present life does indicate a pattern of events

> > > where they feel they are insulted or inhibited in some way which

> > > cannot be explained considering their status, power, or talents

> > > (like being insulted by someone who by virtue of being lower

> down

> > > the social order cannot imagine doing that! but still to this

> native

> > > they may behave like that; or they do not get expected marks in

> > > examinations leading to their disappointment; or they fail to

> get

> > > medical seats though they are innately blessed with healing

> powers;

> > > or military/ administrative careers which start with much

> promise

> > > suddenly get snatched from them by accidents or inexplicable

> > > circumstances). Generally these persons are exposed to

> circumstances

> > > where a show of anger could be justified; the circumstances seem

> to

> > > keep prodding the native to react angrily and they have to fight

> a

> > > constant struggle to control themselves.

> > >

> > > Actually, retrogrades can actually mean hidden potentials. Like

> the

> > > incident I have related in my earlier mail, I very much doubt if

> the

> > > person in question would be alive today if not for the qualities

> he

> > > displayed typical of a retrograde Mars! CHANNELISING THE

> AGGRESSION

> > > CORRECTLY IS THE LESSON TO BE LEARNT THAT IS ALL. There is

> > > nothing " wrong " or " negative " or for that matter " positive "

> about

> > > that.

> > >

> > > Praying to Lord Hanuman is actually good for persons with

> retrograde

> > > Mars. Lord Hanumaan was a typical example of how a courageous

> and

> > > strong person can also be obedient, humble, and possessed of

> > > excellent qualities. Praying to HIm will help in channelizing

> the

> > > instincts productively. But, we cannot say that Mars will

> > > become " direct " by that prayers; we can say that praying to Lord

> > > Hanumaan or chanting Chandi Paath can help the person concerned

> to

> > > tap the " higher and positive " potential of retrograde Mars (like

> > > become expert healers, good yogic experts/ skills trainers, army

> > > commanders, etc.).

> > >

> > > In your case, praying to Lord Hanumaan will be good.

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> > > <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your insightful detailed reply! It was great to

> learn

> > > that.

> > > > We indeed are blessed to have you here.

> > > >

> > > > May I ask two brief follow up questions. First: were these

> natives

> > > in

> > > > some kind of military positions in last lives and therefore it

> is

> > > > their life lesson this life to learn to tame their anger?

> > > >

> > > > Second, would worshipping Lord Hanuman make the Mars direct.

> That

> > > > might perhaps help them express aggression easily and rather

> > > > peacefully and not repress it. Or, will it make them even

> angrier,

> > > > since it will activate the mars.

> > > >

> > > > Someone recommended me that in view of my current Sade Sati,

> 2nd

> > > > phase. But I have Mars retro in Aries in 11th house, third

> from AL.

> > > > Two days later I fell down hard on my head,bled,still have a

> scar

> > > and

> > > > money was stolen from my mother(mars aspects moon too). So I

> > > stopped

> > > > doing that. I am wondering what happened.

> > > >

> > > > I am sorry I somehow missed this post earlier. Noticed just

> now,

> > > > otherwise I would have responded earlier.

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks again and pranams

> > > > Shiva

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Member:

> > > > >

> > > > > You have got it right.

> > > > >

> > > > > People with Mars retrograde in their horoscopes tend to

> delay

> > > > > expression of anger but the feelings of resentment are deep

> > > within.

> > > > > Then when they finally explode, the fireworks are to be seen

> to

> > > be

> > > > > believed!

> > > > >

> > > > > Generally persons with Mars retrograde tend to have an

> innate

> > > > > aggressive instinct that can be masked only to a certain

> extent

> > > > > however cultured and sophisticated they are.

> > > > >

> > > > > The power of their anger has an almost electric character

> > > stupefying

> > > > > and transfixing those who experience it! Luckily most of

> these

> > > > > natives can be taught to control the expression of that

> anger,

> > > and

> > > > > in such cases they will seem to be quite harmless on most

> > > > > occasions. However, the energy is lurking just beneath the

> > > surface

> > > > > of icy cool, ready to come to the aid of the native if

> > > situations

> > > > > demand that.

> > > > >

> > > > > A person who rather goes after the throat of his/ her

> would=be

> > > > > assailant rather than negotiate in the face of a loaded gun

> is

> > > more

> > > > > likely to have a retrograde Mars. I know of an incidence

> > > concerning

> > > > > a Mars retrograde native (he was born in Mesha lagna with

> Mars

> > > in

> > > > > the 3rd house retrograde). Typically, he is of a gentle and

> > > smiling

> > > > > countenance. But on 3 or 4 occasions when his life was in

> > > danger

> > > > > from hired thugs, the transformation was astounding. It is

> > > really a

> > > > > sight to see hired rowdy elements with Guns in hands running

> for

> > > > > their lives with fear absolutely palpable on their faces

> after

> > > > > receiving the treatment from our friend! He was not afraid

> even

> > > > > after he was surrounded by 4 of them with guns in their

> hands.

> > > He

> > > > > did not waste time negotiating or looking for help around;

> he

> > > just

> > > > > went for it so much that they had to run. Of course, he was

> > > trained

> > > > > in martial arts and did regular exercises,etc. But for a

> normal

> > > > > person living a peaceful life to react like that in the face

> of

> > > > > threat WITHOUT ANY TRACE OF FEAR and on the contrary taking

> the

> > > > > battle to the enemy's terrain so to say is really typical of

> > > > > retrograde Mars in the vikrama sthaanaa is it not? This

> person

> > > > > otherwise is a very genial type.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have noted another thing also with that person. He is

> capable

> > > of

> > > > > writing with a stinging wit if he is upset with somebody.

> (Mars

> > > > > retrograde in the 3rd house indicating communications).

> > > > >

> > > > > You can also combine the house lordship and placement of

> > > retrograde

> > > > > Mars and analyze how these natives behave for your learning

> > > purposes.

> > > > > In fact, this goes true for almost all retrograde planets.

> You

> > > will

> > > > > find a definite pattern.

> > > > >

> > > > > We can say that the " retrograde planets express their unique

> > > > > qualities in activities concerned/ governed by the house in

> > > which

> > > > > they are placed and the expression carries the stamp of the

> > > house

> > > > > over which they rule. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > vedic astrology , " theblisswithin "

> > > > > <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > > > > > Thanks for this very enlightening clarification.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Would Mars retro native be more or less angry than a

> direct

> > > mars in

> > > > > > the same house and sign (let's say in Aries).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Would it be that this native has a deep anger but delays

> > > > > expressing it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Shiva

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 3/11/07, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A retrograde planet attains " Cheshta bala " - one of

> the

> > > six

> > > > > > > sources

> > > > > > > > > of shadbala of a planet. Even a debilitated planet

> in

> > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > > motion will attain strength by virtue of its

> retrograde

> > > > > motion.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Actually retrograde planets indicate past life

> imprints

> > > > > regarding

> > > > > > > > > that sector of life indicated by the planet

> concerned.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Apart from the above, retrograde planets indicate

> > > certain

> > > > > special

> > > > > > > > > tendencies in the natives concerned. I am listing

> that

> > > below:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mercury retrograde in the natal chart indicates that

> the

> > > > > native

> > > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > > be highly introspective (to the extent that the

> native

> > > may

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > full-

> > > > > > > > > blown conversations or discussions with an alter-ego

> > > within

> > > > > > > > > themselves in certain cases; this is not a

> psychopathic

> > > > > condition

> > > > > > > > > but a case of hyper-developed conscience or inner

> > > voice!).

> > > > > These

> > > > > > > > > individuals frequently talk to themselves within

> > > themselves

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > motivate themselves. They show unusual intelligence

> with

> > > > > numbers.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jupiter retrograde gives indomitable will power to a

> > > > > > > > > native. " Mission impossible " churns them on to

> > > challenge;

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > born to take on tasks that others will find

> unappealing.

> > > > > This is

> > > > > > > > > the sign of a potential crusader who dares to differ

> and

> > > > > chalk

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > own path in life. Challenges spur them on. They

> succeed

> > > where

> > > > > > > > > others fail usually. An entrepreneur who buys a sick

> > > unit and

> > > > > > > > > dramatically turns it around to a winning

> combination

> > > within

> > > > > > > years

> > > > > > > > > probably will have retrograde Jupiter in natal chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus retrograde gives unusual or eccentric tastes

> for an

> > > > > > > > > individual. They have unique preferences especially

> in

> > > > > romantic

> > > > > > > > > matters.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars retrograde signifies the warrior with a never-

> say-

> > > die

> > > > > > > > > attitude. They possess wonderful equanimity of mind

> even

> > > > > though

> > > > > > > > > their outer expressions may betray their powerful

> > > emotions.

> > > > > This

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > a potentially advantageous planetary motion for a

> > > General or

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > surgeon who have to take instant decisions within

> > > specified

> > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > without any tremblings of the heart to spoil their

> > > > > calculations.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn retrograde gives a loner attitude. Though the

> > > person

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > > > seem to be outwardly gregarious, they live a life

> for

> > > > > themselves

> > > > > > > > > within themselves. If other indications in the chart

> > > support

> > > > > it,

> > > > > > > > > these persons become ascetics in later life having

> > > > > understood the

> > > > > > > > > futility of this material existence.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Apart from this, if an astrologer wants to know the

> > > effects

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > > > or Moon retrograde......what should you

> > > conclude?......THE

> > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGER HAS TO GET HIS BASICS IN ASTRONOMY STRONG

> > > because

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > luminaries Sun and Moon have no retrograde motion as

> the

> > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > > of planets with respect to the Sun only cause this

> > > apparent

> > > > > > > > > phenomenon called retrograde motion. Moon being a

> > > reflection

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > > > is never retrograde. The nodes are always retrograde!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic-

> astrology%

> > > > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > > > " Smt. Anju Sharma "

> > > > > > > > > <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > well, it can be.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic-

> astrology%

> > > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > > Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM

> > > > > > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde-

> How

> > > do

> > > > > > > > > astrologer take???

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In My Opinion All depends on the star lord of the

> > > planet

> > > > > if it

> > > > > > > > > is direct retrogration doesn't matter at all.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ju Sharma " <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > As per my limited knowledge and understanding of

> > > astrology;

> > > > > > > > > > Retrogration of a planet is related with its

> strength

> > > and

> > > > > > > > > influence over a nativity. If the concerned planet

> is

> > > > > benefic, it

> > > > > > > > > will have more power to provide benefic results, if

> > > malefic

> > > > > vice-

> > > > > > > > > versa.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > balkrishnatalele

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic-

> astrology%

> > > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:43 AM

> > > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Planets retrograde- How

> do

> > > > > > > astrologer

> > > > > > > > > take???

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > OM Shri GANESHA NAMAH:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi Gurujans,

> > > > > > > > > > How do an individual judge retrograde planet ,

> does he

> > > take

> > > > > > > > > positive

> > > > > > > > > > or negative,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Some books suggest, Retrograde planets are in very

> > > excited

> > > > > > > > > state, They

> > > > > > > > > > give results very sudden and are unpredictable,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Few of them take is negative,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In one of the horoscope I have seen 3 retrograde

> > > planets in

> > > > > > > > > LAGNA,

> > > > > > > > > > and I failed to analysis , I went wrong and kept

> on

> > > moving

> > > > > > > wrong,

> > > > > > > > > > I would like to share her data, NO I DON'T WANT

> > > > > PREDICTION,

> > > > > > > Just

> > > > > > > > > let

> > > > > > > > > > me know how to judge retrograde planet.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please do let me know, How you will judge this,

> > > Because her

> > > > > > > > > education

> > > > > > > > > > lord is Retrograde, still she has VERY GOOD

> education,

> > > and

> > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > > more...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2-April-1980

> > > > > > > > > > 16:54

> > > > > > > > > > Andheri-Maharashtra-India (or MUMBAI)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > cheers

> > > > > > > > > > Talele

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast

> > > > > > > > > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

March 28, 2007

Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

Indeed it is very valuable information you provided.

Is it possible to tell us something about other

planets also , Saturn /Venus

Read somewhere that if Venus is in retro mode then it

is belived that there were some issues in love life

(wife)of the person in the past life

Similarly for Saturn in retro mode makes person Lazy ,

Specially when it is in Lagana , the person becomes

very impatient. the past reference can be taken as ,

the person was abusive ruler , misused his power in

the his previous birth

Please share

Regards

Vivek

--- theblisswithin <theblisswithin wrote:

> Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> Thanks for your kind reply. I am sure everyone here

> will agree the

> appreciation is more than well deserved by you and

> that your knowledge

> has benefited many. Lord works in mysterious ways

> and if it His will it

> surely can happen. When I get to some better place

> in life where I can

> help in these kind of ventures I would surely do it.

>

> As for the progression of the retrogression from a

> tropical point of

> view, once some tropical-vedic astrologer had

> mentioned some comment on

> a sidereal board. They are the so called western

> sidereal astrologers,

> who use a combination of tropical and vedic

> techniques but with a

> sidereal chart. They are far and few but gaining

> more 'converts' with

> passing time. I will have to search it again, if I

> find it I will post

> it here.

>

> Wishing you and all others a very auspicious

> Ramnavami.

> Pranams

> Shiva

>

> vedic astrology ,

> " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri. Shiva:

> >

> > No. In vedic jyotish the belief that after x no.

> of years, the

> > planet turns direct does not exist.....For that

> matter, even in

> > Western astrology, the principle - if I am not

> wrong - is different

> > from what you have suggested in your post.....

> >

> > That is, if a planet went direct " X " days after

> birth (it also works

> > in the reverse; check the date from which the

> planet actually turned

> > retrograde looking back a few days/ months from

> date of birth), it

> > does not behave like a " direct " planet after " x "

> no. of years (where

> > no. of days before it turns direct = no. of

> years); rather, the xth

> > year will prove to be very significant in some way

> connected with

> > the significations of the planet. I have seen it

> working in real

> > cases also. I hope this clarifies matters.

> >

> > Regarding the suggestion of book writing, I am

> also very much

> > interested in writing one on Psychological

> applications of

> > Astrology. For that I must get good publishers

> approaching me with

> > offers (I personally hate red-tape and canvassing;

> I am a free-bird

> > by nature and will happily disseminate what little

> knowledge I have

> > gathered to the really curious and interested

> souls rather than

> > bargain with hard-nosed business sharks. But, if

> a really

> > interested samaritan approaches me, I will be most

> glad to do the

> > needful) Anyway, thanks for the suggestion and

> the respect and

> > regards you seem to have for my knowledge. I am

> honoured by such

> > sincere appraisals from enthusiasts like you and

> this is the best

> > award and recognition that is closest to my heart.

> I am sure one

> > day I will pen a good book as you have suggested

> by God's Grace. As

> > of now, I am trying to use astro-psychological

> principles in

> > practical applications such as organizational role

> planning using

> > astrology, soft skills training methodologies

> based on one's

> > horoscope, etc. I am doing this on an individual

> basis to clients

> > who approach me for skills training/ counselling/

> career role

> > planning. I will be most happy if some corporate

> organization is

> > willing to experiment with all these. The

> knowledge gained from

> > such experiments will be give additional valuable

> inputs to such a

> > psychological perspective on astrology. Let us

> see what God

> > Wills.....

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> >

> > vedic astrology ,

> " theblisswithin "

> > theblisswithin@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > > That was very insightful. I will follow your

> kind advise.

> > >

> > > When you do find some time, could you comment on

> one related query.

> > > Tropical/western astrologers believe that taking

> one day for one

> > year,

> > > it can be predicted when a planet will go

> 'direct'. If a planet

> > went

> > > direct x number of days after birth. Then after

> x number of years

> > in

> > > essence, according to them, it will start

> showing the 'direct'

> > affects.

> > >

> > > Does jyotish also believe something similar.

> This will be my last

> > > question about this. Thanks for your patience

> and generosity.

> > >

> > > I am quite ignorant in these matters. Moreover

> an afflicted lagna

> > > doesn't show a great intelligence either. But I

> do still wish to

> > make

> > > a humble suggestion. If you have not already

> written one, maybe you

> > > should write a astro book with the explanations

> like the ones

> > above. I

> > > am sure in particular in the west where people

> search for

> > > 'psychological explanations' more than

> predictions, it will fill a

> > > gap. And will also help people like me with very

> minimal technical

> > > knowledge but a great thirst to 'know thyself'

> through Jyotish in a

> > > easy to read, yet very profound content.

> > >

> > > Pranams

> > > Shiva

> > >

> > > vedic astrology ,

> " dakshinastrologer "

> > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Member:

> > > >

> > > > Speculating about past lives based on

> planetary positions is

> > really

> > > > a tricky subject. But, as you have said, we

> may say that

> > retrograde

> > > > Mars indicates that the life lesson a person

> has to learn to

> > > > channelise aggression correctly. If we are to

> believe Naadi

> > > > readings (I have done some research on that),

> I have found a

> > regular

> > > > pattern as follows:

> > > >

> > > > Persons with both Mars and Jupiter retrograde

> generally have

> > been

> > > > either military commanders, martial arts

> exponents, or expert

> > > > surgeons in previous lives, have started their

> career with good

> > zeal

> > > > for social service but somehow got degraded

> with pride and

> > passion

> > > > in the middle and then later got reformed

> towards the end of

> > that

> > > > life. So, their present life does indicate a

> pattern of events

> > > > where they feel they are insulted or inhibited

> in some way which

> > > > cannot be explained considering their status,

> power, or talents

> > > > (like being insulted by someone who by virtue

> of being lower

> > down

> > > > the social order cannot imagine doing that!

> but still to this

> > native

> > > > they may behave like that; or they do not get

> expected marks in

> > > > examinations leading to their disappointment;

> or they fail to

> > get

> > > > medical seats though they are innately blessed

> with healing

> > powers;

> > > > or military/ administrative careers which

> start with much

> > promise

> > > > suddenly get snatched from them by accidents

> or inexplicable

> > > > circumstances). Generally these persons are

> exposed to

> > circumstances

> > > > where a show of anger could be justified; the

> circumstances seem

> > to

> > > > keep prodding the native to react angrily and

> they have to fight

> > a

> > > > constant struggle to control themselves.

> > > >

> > > > Actually, retrogrades can actually mean hidden

> potentials. Like

> > the

> > > > incident I have related in my earlier mail, I

> very much doubt if

> > the

> > > > person in question would be alive today if not

> for the qualities

> > he

> > > > displayed typical of a retrograde Mars!

> CHANNELISING THE

> > AGGRESSION

> > > > CORRECTLY IS THE LESSON TO BE LEARNT THAT IS

> ALL. There is

> > > > nothing " wrong " or " negative " or for that

> matter " positive "

> > about

> > > > that.

> > > >

> > > > Praying to Lord Hanuman is actually good for

> persons with

> > retrograde

> > > > Mars. Lord Hanumaan was a typical example of

> how a courageous

> > and

> > > > strong person can also be obedient, humble,

> and possessed of

> > > > excellent qualities. Praying to HIm will help

> in channelizing

> > the

> > > > instincts productively. But, we cannot say

> that Mars will

> > > > become " direct " by that prayers; we can say

> that praying to Lord

> > > > Hanumaan or chanting Chandi Paath can help the

> person concerned

> > to

> > > > tap the " higher and positive " potential of

> retrograde Mars (like

> > > > become expert healers, good yogic experts/

> skills trainers, army

> > > > commanders, etc.).

> > > >

> > > > In your case, praying to Lord Hanumaan will be

> good.

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > vedic astrology ,

> " theblisswithin "

> > > > <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your insightful detailed reply!

> It was great to

> > learn

> > > > that.

> > > > > We indeed are blessed to have you here.

> > > > >

> > > > > May I ask two brief follow up questions.

> First: were these

> > natives

> > > > in

> > > > > some kind of military positions in last

> lives and therefore it

> > is

> > > > > their life lesson this life to learn to tame

> their anger?

> > > > >

> > > > > Second, would worshipping Lord Hanuman make

> the Mars direct.

> > That

> > > > > might perhaps help them express aggression

> easily and rather

> > > > > peacefully and not repress it. Or, will it

> make them even

> > angrier,

> > > > > since it will activate the mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > Someone recommended me that in view of my

> current Sade Sati,

> > 2nd

> > > > > phase. But I have Mars retro in Aries in

> 11th house, third

> > from AL.

> > > > > Two days later I fell down hard on my

> head,bled,still have a

> > scar

> > > > and

> > > > > money was stolen from my mother(mars aspects

> moon too). So I

> > > > stopped

> > > > > doing that. I am wondering what happened.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am sorry I somehow missed this post

> earlier. Noticed just

> > now,

> > > > > otherwise I would have responded earlier.

> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks again and pranams

> > > > > Shiva

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology ,

> " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Member:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You have got it right.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > People with Mars retrograde in their

> horoscopes tend to

> > delay

> > > > > > expression of anger but the feelings of

> resentment are deep

> > > > within.

> > > > > > Then when they finally explode, the

> fireworks are to be seen

> > to

> > > > be

> > > > > > believed!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Generally persons with Mars retrograde

> tend to have an

> > innate

> > > > > > aggressive instinct that can be masked

> only to a certain

> > extent

> > > > > > however cultured and sophisticated they

> are.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The power of their anger has an almost

> electric character

> > > > stupefying

> > > > > > and transfixing those who experience it!

> Luckily most of

> > these

> > > > > > natives can be taught to control the

> expression of that

> > anger,

> > > > and

> > > > > > in such cases they will seem to be quite

> harmless on most

> > > > > > occasions. However, the energy is lurking

> just beneath the

> > > > surface

> > > > > > of icy cool, ready to come to the aid of

> the native if

> > > > situations

> > > > > > demand that.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A person who rather goes after the throat

> of his/ her

> > would=be

> > > > > > assailant rather than negotiate in the

> face of a loaded gun

> > is

> > > > more

> > > > > > likely to have a retrograde Mars. I know

> of an incidence

> > > > concerning

> > > > > > a Mars retrograde native (he was born in

> Mesha lagna with

> > Mars

> > > > in

> > > > > > the 3rd house retrograde). Typically, he

> is of a gentle and

> > > > smiling

> > > > > > countenance. But on 3 or 4 occasions when

> his life was in

> > > > danger

> > > > > > from hired thugs, the transformation was

> astounding. It is

> > > > really a

> > > > > > sight to see hired rowdy elements with

> Guns in hands running

> > for

> > > > > > their lives with fear absolutely palpable

> on their faces

> > after

> > > > > > receiving the treatment from our friend!

> He was not afraid

> > even

> > > > > > after he was surrounded by 4 of them with

> guns in their

> > hands.

> > > > He

> > > > > > did not waste time negotiating or looking

> for help around;

> > he

> > > > just

> > > > > > went for it so much that they had to run.

> Of course, he was

> > > > trained

> > > > > > in martial arts and did regular

> exercises,etc. But for a

> > normal

> > > > > > person living a peaceful life to react

> like that in the face

> > of

> > > > > > threat WITHOUT ANY TRACE OF FEAR and on

> the contrary taking

> > the

> > > > > > battle to the enemy's terrain so to say is

> really typical of

> > > > > > retrograde Mars in the vikrama sthaanaa is

> it not? This

> > person

> > > > > > otherwise is a very genial type.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have noted another thing also with that

> person. He is

> > capable

> > > > of

> > > > > > writing with a stinging wit if he is upset

> with somebody.

> > (Mars

> > > > > > retrograde in the 3rd house indicating

> communications).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You can also combine the house lordship

> and placement of

> > > > retrograde

> > > > > > Mars and analyze how these natives behave

> for your learning

> > > > purposes.

> > > > > > In fact, this goes true for almost all

> retrograde planets.

> > You

> > > > will

> > > > > > find a definite pattern.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We can say that the " retrograde planets

> express their unique

> > > > > > qualities in activities concerned/

> governed by the house in

> > > > which

> > > > > > they are placed and the expression carries

> the stamp of the

> > > > house

> > > > > > over which they rule. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > vedic astrology ,

> " theblisswithin "

> > > > > > <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > > > > > > Thanks for this very enlightening

> clarification.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Would Mars retro native be more or less

> angry than a

> > direct

> > > > mars in

> > > > > > > the same house and sign (let's say in

> Aries).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Would it be that this native has a deep

> anger but delays

> > > > > > expressing it?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Shiva

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 3/11/07, dakshinastrologer

> <dakshinastrologer@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > A retrograde planet attains

> " Cheshta bala " - one of

> > the

> > > > six

> > > > > > > > sources

> > > > > > > > > > of shadbala of a planet. Even a

> debilitated planet

> > in

> > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > > > motion will attain strength by

> virtue of its

> > retrograde

> > > > > > motion.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Actually retrograde planets

> indicate past life

> > imprints

> > > > > > regarding

> > > > > > > > > > that sector of life indicated by

> the planet

> > concerned.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Apart from the above, retrograde

> planets indicate

> > > > certain

> > > > > > special

> > > > > > > > > > tendencies in the natives

> concerned. I am listing

> > that

> > > > below:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mercury retrograde in the natal

> chart indicates that

> > the

> > > > > > native

> > > > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > > > be highly introspective (to the

> extent that the

> > native

> > > > may

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > full-

> > > > > > > > > > blown conversations or discussions

> with an alter-ego

> > > > within

> > > > > > > > > > themselves in certain cases; this

> is not a

> > psychopathic

> > > > > > condition

> > > > > > > > > > but a case of hyper-developed

> conscience or inner

> > > > voice!).

> > > > > > These

> > > > > > > > > > individuals frequently talk to

> themselves within

> > > > themselves

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > motivate themselves. They show

> unusual intelligence

> > with

> > > > > > numbers.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter retrograde gives

> indomitable will power to a

> > > > > > > > > > native. " Mission impossible "

> churns them on to

> > > > challenge;

> > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > born to take on tasks that others

> will find

> > unappealing.

> > > > > > This is

> > > > > > > > > > the sign of a potential crusader

> who dares to differ

> > and

> > > > > > chalk

> > > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > own path in life. Challenges spur

> them on. They

> > succeed

> > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > others fail usually. An

> entrepreneur who buys a sick

> > > > unit and

> > > > > > > > > > dramatically turns it around to a

> winning

> > combination

> > > > within

> > > > > > > > years

> > > > > > > > > > probably will have retrograde

> Jupiter in natal chart.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Venus retrograde gives unusual or

> eccentric tastes

> > for an

> > > > > > > > > > individual. They have unique

> preferences especially

> > in

> > > > > > romantic

> > > > > > > > > > matters.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mars retrograde signifies the

> warrior with a never-

> > say-

> > > > die

> > > > > > > > > > attitude. They possess wonderful

> equanimity of mind

> > even

> > > > > > though

> > > > > > > > > > their outer expressions may betray

> their powerful

> > > > emotions.

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > a potentially advantageous

> planetary motion for a

> > > > General or

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > surgeon who have to take instant

> decisions within

> > > > specified

> > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > > without any tremblings of the

> heart to spoil their

> > > > > > calculations.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn retrograde gives a loner

> attitude. Though the

> > > > person

> > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > > > seem to be outwardly gregarious,

> they live a life

> > for

> > > > > > themselves

> > > > > > > > > > within themselves. If other

> indications in the chart

> > > > support

> > > > > > it,

> > > > > > > > > > these persons become ascetics in

> later life having

> > > > > > understood the

> > > > > > > > > > futility of this material

> existence.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Apart from this, if an astrologer

> wants to know the

> > > > effects

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > > > > or Moon retrograde......what

> should you

> > > > conclude?......THE

> > > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGER HAS TO GET HIS BASICS

> IN ASTRONOMY STRONG

> > > > because

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > luminaries Sun and Moon have no

> retrograde motion as

> > the

> > > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > > > of planets with respect to the Sun

> only cause this

> > > > apparent

> > > > > > > > > > phenomenon called retrograde

> motion. Moon being a

> > > > reflection

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > > > > is never retrograde. The nodes are

> always retrograde!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> vedic astrology <vedic-

> > astrology%

> > > > > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > > > > " Smt. Anju Sharma "

> > > > > > > > > > <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > well, it can be.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > > > > > > > > To:

> vedic astrology <vedic-

> > astrology%

> > > > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, March 11, 2007

> 11:47 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology]

> Planets retrograde-

> > How

> > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > astrologer take???

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In My Opinion All depends on the

> star lord of the

> > > > planet

> > > > > > if it

> > > > > > > > > > is direct retrogration doesn't

> matter at all.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ju Sharma " <globalastrologers@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > As per my limited knowledge and

> understanding of

> > > > astrology;

> > > > > > > > > > > Retrogration of a planet is

> related with its

> > strength

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > influence over a nativity. If the

> concerned planet

> > is

> > > > > > benefic, it

> > > > > > > > > > will have more power to provide

> benefic results, if

> > > > malefic

> > > > > > vice-

> > > > > > > > > > versa.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > balkrishnatalele

> > > > > > > > > > > To:

> vedic astrology <vedic-

> > astrology%

> > > > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 10, 2007

> 11:43 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology]

> Planets retrograde- How

> > do

> > > > > > > > astrologer

> > > > > > > > > > take???

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > OM Shri GANESHA NAMAH:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gurujans,

> > > > > > > > > > > How do an individual judge

> retrograde planet ,

> > does he

> > > > take

> > > > > > > > > > positive

> > > > > > > > > > > or negative,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Some books suggest, Retrograde

> planets are in very

> > > > excited

> > > > > > > > > > state, They

> > > > > > > > > > > give results very sudden and are

> unpredictable,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Few of them take is negative,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In one of the horoscope I have

> seen 3 retrograde

> > > > planets in

> > > > > > > > > > LAGNA,

> > > > > > > > > > > and I failed to analysis , I

> went wrong and kept

> > on

> > > > moving

> > > > > > > > wrong,

> > > > > > > > > > > I would like to share her data,

> NO I DON'T WANT

> > > > > > PREDICTION,

> > > > > > > > Just

> > > > > > > > > > let

> > > > > > > > > > > me know how to judge retrograde

> planet.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please do let me know, How you

> will judge this,

> > > > Because her

> > > > > > > > > > education

> > > > > > > > > > > lord is Retrograde, still she

> has VERY GOOD

> > education,

> > > > and

> > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > > > more...

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 2-April-1980

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I have heard about the laziness. But never heard about saturn retro

in lagna causing impatience. Saturn is a planet of hardwork and

patience, and gets more strengthened while retro. Will be great to

have learned members' comments on this

Shiva

vedic astrology , Vivek Shandilya

<riverdalein wrote:

>

> Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> Indeed it is very valuable information you provided.

> Is it possible to tell us something about other

> planets also , Saturn /Venus

>

> Read somewhere that if Venus is in retro mode then it

> is belived that there were some issues in love life

> (wife)of the person in the past life

>

> Similarly for Saturn in retro mode makes person Lazy ,

> Specially when it is in Lagana , the person becomes

> very impatient. the past reference can be taken as ,

> the person was abusive ruler , misused his power in

> the his previous birth

>

> Please share

> Regards

> Vivek

> --- theblisswithin <theblisswithin wrote:

>

> > Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > Thanks for your kind reply. I am sure everyone here

> > will agree the

> > appreciation is more than well deserved by you and

> > that your knowledge

> > has benefited many. Lord works in mysterious ways

> > and if it His will it

> > surely can happen. When I get to some better place

> > in life where I can

> > help in these kind of ventures I would surely do it.

> >

> > As for the progression of the retrogression from a

> > tropical point of

> > view, once some tropical-vedic astrologer had

> > mentioned some comment on

> > a sidereal board. They are the so called western

> > sidereal astrologers,

> > who use a combination of tropical and vedic

> > techniques but with a

> > sidereal chart. They are far and few but gaining

> > more 'converts' with

> > passing time. I will have to search it again, if I

> > find it I will post

> > it here.

> >

> > Wishing you and all others a very auspicious

> > Ramnavami.

> > Pranams

> > Shiva

> >

> > vedic astrology ,

> > " dakshinastrologer "

> > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri. Shiva:

> > >

> > > No. In vedic jyotish the belief that after x no.

> > of years, the

> > > planet turns direct does not exist.....For that

> > matter, even in

> > > Western astrology, the principle - if I am not

> > wrong - is different

> > > from what you have suggested in your post.....

> > >

> > > That is, if a planet went direct " X " days after

> > birth (it also works

> > > in the reverse; check the date from which the

> > planet actually turned

> > > retrograde looking back a few days/ months from

> > date of birth), it

> > > does not behave like a " direct " planet after " x "

> > no. of years (where

> > > no. of days before it turns direct = no. of

> > years); rather, the xth

> > > year will prove to be very significant in some way

> > connected with

> > > the significations of the planet. I have seen it

> > working in real

> > > cases also. I hope this clarifies matters.

> > >

> > > Regarding the suggestion of book writing, I am

> > also very much

> > > interested in writing one on Psychological

> > applications of

> > > Astrology. For that I must get good publishers

> > approaching me with

> > > offers (I personally hate red-tape and canvassing;

> > I am a free-bird

> > > by nature and will happily disseminate what little

> > knowledge I have

> > > gathered to the really curious and interested

> > souls rather than

> > > bargain with hard-nosed business sharks. But, if

> > a really

> > > interested samaritan approaches me, I will be most

> > glad to do the

> > > needful) Anyway, thanks for the suggestion and

> > the respect and

> > > regards you seem to have for my knowledge. I am

> > honoured by such

> > > sincere appraisals from enthusiasts like you and

> > this is the best

> > > award and recognition that is closest to my heart.

> > I am sure one

> > > day I will pen a good book as you have suggested

> > by God's Grace. As

> > > of now, I am trying to use astro-psychological

> > principles in

> > > practical applications such as organizational role

> > planning using

> > > astrology, soft skills training methodologies

> > based on one's

> > > horoscope, etc. I am doing this on an individual

> > basis to clients

> > > who approach me for skills training/ counselling/

> > career role

> > > planning. I will be most happy if some corporate

> > organization is

> > > willing to experiment with all these. The

> > knowledge gained from

> > > such experiments will be give additional valuable

> > inputs to such a

> > > psychological perspective on astrology. Let us

> > see what God

> > > Wills.....

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> > >

> > > vedic astrology ,

> > " theblisswithin "

> > > theblisswithin@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > > > That was very insightful. I will follow your

> > kind advise.

> > > >

> > > > When you do find some time, could you comment on

> > one related query.

> > > > Tropical/western astrologers believe that taking

> > one day for one

> > > year,

> > > > it can be predicted when a planet will go

> > 'direct'. If a planet

> > > went

> > > > direct x number of days after birth. Then after

> > x number of years

> > > in

> > > > essence, according to them, it will start

> > showing the 'direct'

> > > affects.

> > > >

> > > > Does jyotish also believe something similar.

> > This will be my last

> > > > question about this. Thanks for your patience

> > and generosity.

> > > >

> > > > I am quite ignorant in these matters. Moreover

> > an afflicted lagna

> > > > doesn't show a great intelligence either. But I

> > do still wish to

> > > make

> > > > a humble suggestion. If you have not already

> > written one, maybe you

> > > > should write a astro book with the explanations

> > like the ones

> > > above. I

> > > > am sure in particular in the west where people

> > search for

> > > > 'psychological explanations' more than

> > predictions, it will fill a

> > > > gap. And will also help people like me with very

> > minimal technical

> > > > knowledge but a great thirst to 'know thyself'

> > through Jyotish in a

> > > > easy to read, yet very profound content.

> > > >

> > > > Pranams

> > > > Shiva

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology ,

> > " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Member:

> > > > >

> > > > > Speculating about past lives based on

> > planetary positions is

> > > really

> > > > > a tricky subject. But, as you have said, we

> > may say that

> > > retrograde

> > > > > Mars indicates that the life lesson a person

> > has to learn to

> > > > > channelise aggression correctly. If we are to

> > believe Naadi

> > > > > readings (I have done some research on that),

> > I have found a

> > > regular

> > > > > pattern as follows:

> > > > >

> > > > > Persons with both Mars and Jupiter retrograde

> > generally have

> > > been

> > > > > either military commanders, martial arts

> > exponents, or expert

> > > > > surgeons in previous lives, have started their

> > career with good

> > > zeal

> > > > > for social service but somehow got degraded

> > with pride and

> > > passion

> > > > > in the middle and then later got reformed

> > towards the end of

> > > that

> > > > > life. So, their present life does indicate a

> > pattern of events

> > > > > where they feel they are insulted or inhibited

> > in some way which

> > > > > cannot be explained considering their status,

> > power, or talents

> > > > > (like being insulted by someone who by virtue

> > of being lower

> > > down

> > > > > the social order cannot imagine doing that!

> > but still to this

> > > native

> > > > > they may behave like that; or they do not get

> > expected marks in

> > > > > examinations leading to their disappointment;

> > or they fail to

> > > get

> > > > > medical seats though they are innately blessed

> > with healing

> > > powers;

> > > > > or military/ administrative careers which

> > start with much

> > > promise

> > > > > suddenly get snatched from them by accidents

> > or inexplicable

> > > > > circumstances). Generally these persons are

> > exposed to

> > > circumstances

> > > > > where a show of anger could be justified; the

> > circumstances seem

> > > to

> > > > > keep prodding the native to react angrily and

> > they have to fight

> > > a

> > > > > constant struggle to control themselves.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually, retrogrades can actually mean hidden

> > potentials. Like

> > > the

> > > > > incident I have related in my earlier mail, I

> > very much doubt if

> > > the

> > > > > person in question would be alive today if not

> > for the qualities

> > > he

> > > > > displayed typical of a retrograde Mars!

> > CHANNELISING THE

> > > AGGRESSION

> > > > > CORRECTLY IS THE LESSON TO BE LEARNT THAT IS

> > ALL. There is

> > > > > nothing " wrong " or " negative " or for that

> > matter " positive "

> > > about

> > > > > that.

> > > > >

> > > > > Praying to Lord Hanuman is actually good for

> > persons with

> > > retrograde

> > > > > Mars. Lord Hanumaan was a typical example of

> > how a courageous

> > > and

> > > > > strong person can also be obedient, humble,

> > and possessed of

> > > > > excellent qualities. Praying to HIm will help

> > in channelizing

> > > the

> > > > > instincts productively. But, we cannot say

> > that Mars will

> > > > > become " direct " by that prayers; we can say

> > that praying to Lord

> > > > > Hanumaan or chanting Chandi Paath can help the

> > person concerned

> > > to

> > > > > tap the " higher and positive " potential of

> > retrograde Mars (like

> > > > > become expert healers, good yogic experts/

> > skills trainers, army

> > > > > commanders, etc.).

> > > > >

> > > > > In your case, praying to Lord Hanumaan will be

> > good.

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > vedic astrology ,

> > " theblisswithin "

> > > > > <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your insightful detailed reply!

> > It was great to

> > > learn

> > > > > that.

> > > > > > We indeed are blessed to have you here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > May I ask two brief follow up questions.

> > First: were these

> > > natives

> > > > > in

> > > > > > some kind of military positions in last

> > lives and therefore it

> > > is

> > > > > > their life lesson this life to learn to tame

> > their anger?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Second, would worshipping Lord Hanuman make

> > the Mars direct.

> > > That

> > > > > > might perhaps help them express aggression

> > easily and rather

> > > > > > peacefully and not repress it. Or, will it

> > make them even

> > > angrier,

> > > > > > since it will activate the mars.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Someone recommended me that in view of my

> > current Sade Sati,

> > > 2nd

> > > > > > phase. But I have Mars retro in Aries in

> > 11th house, third

> > > from AL.

> > > > > > Two days later I fell down hard on my

> > head,bled,still have a

> > > scar

> > > > > and

> > > > > > money was stolen from my mother(mars aspects

> > moon too). So I

> > > > > stopped

> > > > > > doing that. I am wondering what happened.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am sorry I somehow missed this post

> > earlier. Noticed just

> > > now,

> > > > > > otherwise I would have responded earlier.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks again and pranams

> > > > > > Shiva

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology ,

> > " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Member:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You have got it right.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > People with Mars retrograde in their

> > horoscopes tend to

> > > delay

> > > > > > > expression of anger but the feelings of

> > resentment are deep

> > > > > within.

> > > > > > > Then when they finally explode, the

> > fireworks are to be seen

> > > to

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > believed!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Generally persons with Mars retrograde

> > tend to have an

> > > innate

> > > > > > > aggressive instinct that can be masked

> > only to a certain

> > > extent

> > > > > > > however cultured and sophisticated they

> > are.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The power of their anger has an almost

> > electric character

> > > > > stupefying

> > > > > > > and transfixing those who experience it!

> > Luckily most of

> > > these

> > > > > > > natives can be taught to control the

> > expression of that

> > > anger,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > in such cases they will seem to be quite

> > harmless on most

> > > > > > > occasions. However, the energy is lurking

> > just beneath the

> > > > > surface

> > > > > > > of icy cool, ready to come to the aid of

> > the native if

> > > > > situations

> > > > > > > demand that.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A person who rather goes after the throat

> > of his/ her

> > > would=be

> > > > > > > assailant rather than negotiate in the

> > face of a loaded gun

> > > is

> > > > > more

> > > > > > > likely to have a retrograde Mars. I know

> > of an incidence

> > > > > concerning

> > > > > > > a Mars retrograde native (he was born in

> > Mesha lagna with

> > > Mars

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the 3rd house retrograde). Typically, he

> > is of a gentle and

> > > > > smiling

> > > > > > > countenance. But on 3 or 4 occasions when

> > his life was in

> > > > > danger

> > > > > > > from hired thugs, the transformation was

> > astounding. It is

> > > > > really a

> > > > > > > sight to see hired rowdy elements with

> > Guns in hands running

> > > for

> > > > > > > their lives with fear absolutely palpable

> > on their faces

> > > after

> > > > > > > receiving the treatment from our friend!

> > He was not afraid

> > > even

> > > > > > > after he was surrounded by 4 of them with

> > guns in their

> > > hands.

> > > > > He

> > > > > > > did not waste time negotiating or looking

> > for help around;

> > > he

> > > > > just

> > > > > > > went for it so much that they had to run.

> > Of course, he was

> > > > > trained

> > > > > > > in martial arts and did regular

> > exercises,etc. But for a

> > > normal

> > > > > > > person living a peaceful life to react

> > like that in the face

> > > of

> > > > > > > threat WITHOUT ANY TRACE OF FEAR and on

> > the contrary taking

> > > the

> > > > > > > battle to the enemy's terrain so to say is

> > really typical of

> > > > > > > retrograde Mars in the vikrama sthaanaa is

> > it not? This

> > > person

> > > > > > > otherwise is a very genial type.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have noted another thing also with that

> > person. He is

> > > capable

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > writing with a stinging wit if he is upset

> > with somebody.

> > > (Mars

> > > > > > > retrograde in the 3rd house indicating

> > communications).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You can also combine the house lordship

> > and placement of

> > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > Mars and analyze how these natives behave

> > for your learning

> > > > > purposes.

> > > > > > > In fact, this goes true for almost all

> > retrograde planets.

> > > You

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > find a definite pattern.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We can say that the " retrograde planets

> > express their unique

> > > > > > > qualities in activities concerned/

> > governed by the house in

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > they are placed and the expression carries

> > the stamp of the

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > over which they rule. "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > > vedic astrology ,

> > " theblisswithin "

> > > > > > > <theblisswithin@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

> > > > > > > > Thanks for this very enlightening

> > clarification.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Would Mars retro native be more or less

> > angry than a

> > > direct

> > > > > mars in

> > > > > > > > the same house and sign (let's say in

> > Aries).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Would it be that this native has a deep

> > anger but delays

> > > > > > > expressing it?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > Shiva

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On 3/11/07, dakshinastrologer

> > <dakshinastrologer@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > A retrograde planet attains

> > " Cheshta bala " - one of

> > > the

> > > > > six

> > > > > > > > > sources

> > > > > > > > > > > of shadbala of a planet. Even a

> > debilitated planet

> > > in

> > > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > > > > motion will attain strength by

> > virtue of its

> > > retrograde

> > > > > > > motion.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Actually retrograde planets

> > indicate past life

> > > imprints

> > > > > > > regarding

> > > > > > > > > > > that sector of life indicated by

> > the planet

> > > concerned.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Apart from the above, retrograde

> > planets indicate

> > > > > certain

> > > > > > > special

> > > > > > > > > > > tendencies in the natives

> > concerned. I am listing

> > > that

> > > > > below:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Mercury retrograde in the natal

> > chart indicates that

> > > the

> > > > > > > native

> > > > > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > > > > be highly introspective (to the

> > extent that the

> > > native

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > full-

> > > > > > > > > > > blown conversations or discussions

> > with an alter-ego

> > > > > within

> > > > > > > > > > > themselves in certain cases; this

> > is not a

> > > psychopathic

> > > > > > > condition

> > > > > > > > > > > but a case of hyper-developed

> > conscience or inner

> > > > > voice!).

> > > > > > > These

> > > > > > > > > > > individuals frequently talk to

> > themselves within

> > > > > themselves

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > > motivate themselves. They show

> > unusual intelligence

> > > with

> > > > > > > numbers.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter retrograde gives

> > indomitable will power to a

> > > > > > > > > > > native. " Mission impossible "

> > churns them on to

> > > > > challenge;

> > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > born to take on tasks that others

> > will find

> > > unappealing.

> > > > > > > This is

> > > > > > > > > > > the sign of a potential crusader

> > who dares to differ

> > > and

> > > > > > > chalk

> > > > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > > own path in life. Challenges spur

> > them on. They

> > > succeed

> > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > others fail usually. An

> > entrepreneur who buys a sick

> > > > > unit and

> > > > > > > > > > > dramatically turns it around to a

> > winning

> > > combination

> > > > > within

> > > > > > > > > years

> > > > > > > > > > > probably will have retrograde

> > Jupiter in natal chart.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Venus retrograde gives unusual or

> > eccentric tastes

> > > for an

> > > > > > > > > > > individual. They have unique

> > preferences especially

> > > in

> > > > > > > romantic

> > > > > > > > > > > matters.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars retrograde signifies the

> > warrior with a never-

> > > say-

> > > > > die

> > > > > > > > > > > attitude. They possess wonderful

> > equanimity of mind

> > > even

> > > > > > > though

> > > > > > > > > > > their outer expressions may betray

> > their powerful

> > > > > emotions.

> > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > a potentially advantageous

> > planetary motion for a

> > > > > General or

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > surgeon who have to take instant

> > decisions within

> > > > > specified

> > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > > > without any tremblings of the

> > heart to spoil their

> > > > > > > calculations.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Saturn retrograde gives a loner

> > attitude. Though the

> > > > > person

> > > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > > > > seem to be outwardly gregarious,

> > they live a life

> > > for

> > > > > > > themselves

> > > > > > > > > > > within themselves. If other

> > indications in the chart

> > > > > support

> > > > > > > it,

> > > > > > > > > > > these persons become ascetics in

> > later life having

> > > > > > > understood the

> > > > > > > > > > > futility of this material

> > existence.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Apart from this, if an astrologer

> > wants to know the

> > > > > effects

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > > > > > or Moon retrograde......what

> > should you

> > > > > conclude?......THE

> > > > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGER HAS TO GET HIS BASICS

> > IN ASTRONOMY STRONG

> > > > > because

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > luminaries Sun and Moon have no

> > retrograde motion as

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > > > > of planets with respect to the Sun

> > only cause this

> > > > > apparent

> > > > > > > > > > > phenomenon called retrograde

> > motion. Moon being a

> > > > > reflection

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > > > > > is never retrograde. The nodes are

> > always retrograde!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > vedic astrology <vedic-

> > > astrology%

> > > > > > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > > > > > " Smt. Anju Sharma "

> > > > > > > > > > > <globalastrologers@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > well, it can be.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > > Pram Chopra

> > > > > > > > > > > > To:

> > vedic astrology <vedic-

> > > astrology%

> > > > > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, March 11, 2007

> > 11:47 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology]

> > Planets retrograde-

> > > How

> > > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > > astrologer take???

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > God Bless U

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In My Opinion All depends on the

> > star lord of the

> > > > > planet

> > > > > > > if it

> > > > > > > > > > > is direct retrogration doesn't

> > matter at all.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ju Sharma " <globalastrologers@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > As per my limited knowledge and

> > understanding of

> > > > > astrology;

> > > > > > > > > > > > Retrogration of a planet is

> > related with its

> > > strength

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > influence over a nativity. If the

> > concerned planet

> > > is

> > > > > > > benefic, it

> > > > > > > > > > > will have more power to provide

> > benefic results, if

> > > > > malefic

> > > > > > > vice-

> > > > > > > > > > > versa.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Smt. Anju Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > > > www.globalastrologers.com

> > > > > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > > balkrishnatalele

> > > > > > > > > > > > To:

> > vedic astrology <vedic-

> > > astrology%

> > > > > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 10, 2007

> > 11:43 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology]

> > Planets retrograde- How

> > > do

> > > > > > > > > astrologer

> > > > > > > > > > > take???

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > OM Shri GANESHA NAMAH:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gurujans,

> > > > > > > > > > > > How do an individual judge

> > retrograde planet ,

> > > does he

> > > > > take

> > > > > > > > > > > positive

> > > > > > > > > > > > or negative,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Some books suggest, Retrograde

> > planets are in very

> > > > > excited

> > > > > > > > > > > state, They

> > > > > > > > > > > > give results very sudden and are

> > unpredictable,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Few of them take is negative,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In one of the horoscope I have

> > seen 3 retrograde

> > > > > planets in

> > > > > > > > > > > LAGNA,

> > > > > > > > > > > > and I failed to analysis , I

> > went wrong and kept

> > > on

> > > > > moving

> > > > > > > > > wrong,

> > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to share her data,

> > NO I DON'T WANT

> > > > > > > PREDICTION,

> > > > > > > > > Just

> > > > > > > > > > > let

> > > > > > > > > > > > me know how to judge retrograde

> > planet.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please do let me know, How you

> > will judge this,

> > > > > Because her

> > > > > > > > > > > education

> > > > > > > > > > > > lord is Retrograde, still she

> > has VERY GOOD

> > > education,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > > > > more...

> > > > > > > > > > > >

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