Pavankheraa Alias Mudit982001 , Some harsh but full of imotions words

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Respected Umesh ji alias Pavan kkhera ji

jabki aapki poori mail english main hai main hindi main hi answer

doonga kyonki jahaan tak maine samajhaa hai aur samajhtaa hoon abhi

bhi adhikter members is group main hindusataan ke hi hain ya

hindustaan se hi sambandh rakhtey hai aur meri baat ko bakhoobi samjh

lenge thode bahut english ke words bhi prayog karoongaa kyonki aajkal

shayad jamaana hi milavat ka aa gayaa hai.

You said -:-(Yes, I am Pavan Khera. This identity was created

with a single purpose to access Lal Kitab group where my original id

of mudit982001 was unilaterally banned by the moderator under the

influence of baseless and unsubstantiated allegations.

Now see yourself

Because you r the kartaa dhartaa (MODERATOR) of this group & U were

working in your group By the name of Pavan khera & bychance only one

remained massage no. 73 in your group is still by the name of pavan

kheraa dated 31 oct. 2004 & in which group you are saying about your

ban there you were sending greetings of diwali even after this

massage no. 73 & pavan kheraa was not active in that group even you

are saying that you were banned.I am giving some massage no. of punit

pandey's lalkitab group & surprised to see that a banned mamber is

sending his massages properly. after the date 31/10/04 to 6/01/05. &

the same member was using his fake id in his group & claiming

above.See the massages of that group as banned member of you :-

4401 , 4413, 4425, 4483, 4494, 4557, 4579,

4581, 4582, 4583, 4621, 4632, 4633, 4635,

4643, 4648, 4649, 4650, 4683,4684,4685,4693, 4725,

4728, 4730, 4743, 4775, 4777, 4795, 4796,

4832, 4851, 4856, 4873, 4874, 4875, 4906, 4923, 4925, 4929, 4930,

4936, 4940

All these massages are from 31 october 2004 to 6th january

2005. When Pavankheraa was active in your group by yourself on dated

31 october 2004 at massage no. 73 & blaming others now with a

surprising excuse. Vaah mere bhai vaah. Mera to keyboard kharaab tha

aapka to nahi tha aur aapkaa hi likhaa hua proof aap khoob pehchaan

lenegey.

You blame that im blaming you as thug & etc. aur aap per

police ka case bhi ban saktaa hai. Lekin umesh ji maine aisa nahi

kahaa yeh to vahi keh rahaa tha jisne aapko bhi Pareshaan kiyaa aur

mujhe bhi maine to aapko uski baat se avgat karvaayaa usse fone per

bhi baat karni chahi thi aur private chat per usse fone no. bhi

poochha tha. jo ki main apni pehli mail main likh chukaa hoon uske

liye aapko mujhe safayee ya witness dene ki kyaa jaroorat hai , kya

main nanhaa sa baby hoon jise samjhaane ki jaroorat hogi.

Aur aapne meri jis namak ki kadra karne ki baat ko

hospitality kaa naam diya hai veh bhi main jaantaa hoon. Main yeh

ginti nahi karvaa rahaa hoon ki aapne mere se kuchh jyaada ya special

demand kertey hua khaa pee liyaa.Main to yeh kehna chaah rahaa hoon

ki jise aap hospitality kaa naam de rahey hain veh hospitality kisi

road per chaltey hue insaan se nahi ki jaati hai , kuchh vyavhaar aur

vichaar ko maddenazar rakhtey huye ki jaati hai, kisi ke liye sammaan

ko prakat kartey hue ki jaati hai aur vaisa hi samman aapne bhi meraa

rakhaa tha, main is baat se bhi kab manaa ker rahaa hoon.Lekin is

sammaan ke len den main kyaa aapko koi bhaavnaa ka sambandh nazar

nahi aaya ,jo aapne tadaak se mujh per fake id ka hamlaa bol diyaa

.Aapke aur mere beech difference to isi baat ko leker hua

hai. Aur ab aap khud maan rahey hain ki aap hi pavan kheraa

hain.Aapko bataa doon ki maine pavan kheraa ko bhi offline massage

diyaa tha tab bhi aapne javab to diyaa lekin yeh nahi bataaya ki aap

hi pavan kheraa hain . Ye dekhiye vo answer bhi dikhaata hoon:-

 

pavankhera: fine sir

pavankhera: fine sir

Messenger: pavankhera may be offline. If so, the message will

still be sent and they will see it next time they log in. (2/12/05

2:26 PM).

Mere is massage ko ab aap jaise marzi tod marod do ya kuchh nayaa nam

de do lekin ye massage aaj bhi mere computer main hai, Jismain appne

kahin bhi ishaara nahi kiyaa ki aap hi umesh sharmaa mere karibi

hain.Mere shubhchintak hain. Aap to shayad khush ho rahey honge ki

lalkitabee ko kyaa bevkoof banaaya gaya hai.

 

Aap khud apne group main fake id ka prayog ker rahey hai aur doosron

per vyarth ka blame kartey hue kyaa badhiyaa moderator ka farz nibhaa

rahey hai. Ye sab kya mazraa hai ?

 

( Aap 500 ids prayog karo lekin koi asool bhi to rakho. Main samajh

nahi pa rahaa hoon ki aapne 31 oct 2004 se aajtak apne group ko bhi

anjaan rakhaa apni fake id se aur apne hi wellwishers ke heads ko

nariyal ki tarah fod rahey ho uske aader satkaar ka badlaa kitne

badhiyaa tarike se chukaa rahey ho , are mere bhai lalkitabee ko

lancer car main ghoomne aur hotel main rukne ka shauk nahi , jisse ki

aap mere satkaar ka badlaa chukaa loge , ek shuddh bhawnaa ke saath

main aapse baat karne ka ichchhuk rahaa hoon lekin ab aapke is naye

raav dhang ko dekhker mujhe bhi ye samajh aa gayaa hai ki is internet

per kaise kaise log mil jaatey hai jo ghar main ghustey hai fir dil

main aur fir dimag main ghusker visfot ker detey hain.

Ye bhi sach hai ki jab insaan ooper badhtaa hai to uske bhi

dushman ban jaatey hai lekin aapko mujhse kyaa bair tha jo mujh per

ilzaam lagaa diya aur ilzaam bhi aisaa jo ki khudd aap hi apne group

main ker rahey hain. AAp ek jujhaaroo insaan hai aur jivan ke utar

chadhaav bhi khoob dekhey hain.Uske liye main khud maantaa hoon ki

aap si shaksiyat koi birlee hi ho sakti hai. Lekin agar aap apne

vazood ya staus ki neev main vyarth main kisi ko ghaseetenge to

gulguley nahi baate jayenge. Aur rahi baat police cases vagaira ki to

main fir yahi kahoongaa ki maine koi aarop nahi kiyaa hai kyonki

Itihaas gavaah hai ki jab koi astrologer khulker aage badhaa hai to

use Jail bhi jaana padaa hai aur mukaddme baazi bhi jhelni padi hai.

Is vishay per maine aapse kuchh poochha hi nahi main is baat ko

bakhoobi samajhta hoon. AApki aur mera view difference fake id ko

leker hai aur uske peechhey itnaa bavaal khadaa ho jaane per main bhi

chup nahi baith sakta bhaley hi yeh aapka group ho. Even main to

aapke ghar main bhi khadaa hoker aapke kasoor ko kasoor hi kahoongaa

bhale hi nikal denaa apne ghar se. Ishwer karey khoob falo foolo

lekin ba main bhi kafi tatyon ko sochsamajh ker hi baat karoongaa aur

aapke group se itni aasani se jaane waala bhi nahi jab aap pavan

kheraa ho saktey hain to aur bhi bahut kuchh ho saktey hai main aapke

man ke vaimnasyaa ka karan jaanoongaa ya fir aapkaa asli roop dono

main se ek cheez to mujhe haasil hogi hi.Ya to aapki personality ka

vazzod galat hogaa ya fir aapki narazgi ka karan.Kyonki ye dono

cheezain ek saath nahi ho sakti kisi aap jaise insaan main yeh main

jaantaa hoon.Ab dekhnaa yeh hai ki lalkitabee galat hotaa hai ya

umesh.Is babaal main main haar ker bhi jitoongaa aur jeet gayaa to vo

ek haar hi hogi.

I think now picture has cleared in ur vision

MR. PAVAN KHERAA ALIAS MUDIT982001

With regards

Only according your views not in fact

Lalkitabeeeeeeeeeeee alias niganth

 

 

 

lalkitab , " Umesh Sharma "

<mudit982001> wrote:

>

> Dear LalKitabee alias Niganthu,

>

> Even though your mail is in Hindi, I answer in English for the

benefit

> of the members, issue by issue. This will put all the issues in

proper

> perspective.

>

> You say it was a Keyboard mistake issue:

>

> I accept your explanation of keyboard mistake but do not agree with

> it. If message # 493 is examined, it clearly indicates that no such

> keyboard mistake is made. Anybody can see this for himself.

>

> You mention Anangvastav issue:

>

> This person, in private chat with me, had insulted me, been rude to

me

> and threatened me with dire consequences. I am trying to trace this

> person, he has left an electronic trail. If you find any clue,

please

> share it with me.

>

> You raise the Pavan Khera issue:

>

> Yes, I am Pavan Khera. This identity was created with a single

purpose

> to access Lal Kitab group where my original id of mudit982001 was

> unilaterally banned by the moderator under the influence of baseless

> and unsubstantiated allegations. Indeed it was a sad feeling when I

> was just informed, and no views, opinion or explanation were sought

> from me. This, when I was the most active person offering analysis

and

> remedies. To many in the Lal Kitab group, I had suggested remedies

and

> analysis. Moral responsibility called for keeping a check. Had the

> moderator of Lal Kitab group chosen to allow me access, with perhaps

> delayed postings of my mail, the need to create a fresh identity

would

> not have been there.

>

> You quote others that I am a thug:

>

> I believe that when a person works positively and constructively, it

> is impossible to satisfy each and everyone. Some will be

dissatisfied

> and amongst them, few could use strong words. In my whole

astrological

> career, no one can ever accuse me of cheating them. If anyone can

> stand up and say so, I will publicly acknowledge it. I will wait for

> such a person to stand up.

>

> You hear from others that I have looted people of their money:

>

> This will qualify as a lie. Again, no one can ever accuse me of

this.

> Actual fact is that, whenever I charge money, I offer a money back

> policy. If the remedies do not work (this happens) then I return the

> money. If my client was not able to find solution at my doorstep, he

> is at least free to approach other solution providers without a pain

> in his heart. Many have taken back their money from me. I think

there

> will be few persons in this group who have interacted with me on a

> personal and professional basis and have received the money back

offer.

>

> That I am a candidate for police case:

>

> This is a silly allegation, not worth answering. Just for record,

many

> senior police officers are my clients and friends and they are very

> happy with my work.

>

>

> You write that you do not participate much in the groups:

>

> This is your choice. I know it is difficult for most people to write

> and reveal their analysis, remedies. Whenever you feel confident,

> please do share and contribute in the forum.

>

> You say that I ate your food, tasted your salt:

>

> Indian hospitality is such that offering and eating food is an

> integral part of it. One never counts these things. But if these

> things are to be considered, then I say, this was no one way

traffic.

> In Delhi, you have been my honoured guest.

>

> You say I could have asked you personally for clarification:

>

> As the mail was posted in the forum, not sent to me privately, the

> right place for it was the forum itself.

>

> You say `aapki pagdi uchali' i.e. publicly you have been derobed and

> fake id's:

>

> This was not the idea nor I think this idea has been communicated.

It

> was a simple matter of calling a spade a spade, nothing else. It is

> very easy to create multiple id's, become member of any group and

then

> create nuisance. I will not allow this. I welcome discussions,

> criticism but no hidden arrows.

>

>

> Few words about myself (this should clear some myths):

>

> For a major part of my life I lived in poverty, till the age of 38

yrs

> or so. I have even slept on footpath. I never knew where my next

meal

> is going to come from. On one aspect all astrologers agreed. My

> horoscope revealed that one thing is certain – I can never be a good

> astrologer. See the irony: I am now well off – all due to astrology,

> or more specifically, Lal Kitab. I own properties, many vehicles and

> have the latest gadgets in my home and car.

>

> I am very indebited to Lal Kitab. I love it. I respect it. I revere

> it. I have all the original Lal Kitabs plus many other original urdu

> astrological books that are still waiting for translation such as

> `aaina –e- tariq'. Except for one edition, I had got done

translations

> of 4 Lal Kitabs on my expense, for my own study. My father in law

was

> a personal friend of Pt. Roop Chand Joshi. I have with me registers

> wherein Panditji himself, in his own hand has made notations and

> marked comments. Anybody is free to visit me and see these books and

> the registers.

>

> I have to give back to the world what I received from it through Lal

> Kitab. Moderating the is my humble way of reaching the

> world and revealing to them the efficacy and power of this book. In

> this effort, I hope to create a substantially huge archive of

> messages, which then can be used by any research student.

>

> I have given myself a huge task. Analyze horoscopes, suggest

remedies,

> listen to the follow up, write books (currently 3 books are in

> pipeline), decode Lal Kitab so as every one benefits. I seek and

want

> support of anyone who shares this vision, as I alone cannot do all

and

> so much.

>

>

 

> UMESH SHARMA