Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 that saturn rules servants. I was basing this on texts but just wanted to make sure. also what house rules subordinates or servants in general. I believe it is the 6th house but any further clarification would be greatly appreciated. thanks, __________ Raja G. Gursahani *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA) *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Hi Raja I find that Saturn does rule those who are in menial employment, domestics, labourers, miners etc Generally it rules 'commoners' or those without land or title or who are not very well off. The sixth house is also where servants or subordinates can be seen with Saturn as karaka. best wishes M - Raja Gursahani Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:37 AM is it true that saturn rules servants. I was basing this on texts but just wanted to make sure. also what house rules subordinates or servants in general. I believe it is the 6th house but any further clarification would be greatly appreciated. thanks, ________ Raja G. Gursahani *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA) *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Dear Raja, Saturn does signify, servants, menial class, subordinates,workers, lower category staff, peons, sweeper and shudras. Which is why a person with afflicted Saturn should never scold his servants, but keep them happy to srtengthen his weak Saturn. Which is why one should donate his old slippers and shoes to the sweeper on any Saturday. (Leather donation to karaka individual of Saturn- Sweeper) In similiar manner Saturn also signifies the creatures crawling on the earth (Capricorn- Earthy sign)and black Crows in the Air (Aquarius- Airy sign)who can be crushed immediately by anyone walking on the road. These creatures are at the mercy of others and have to be pitied and taken care of.Which is why the ants are to be given wheat balls thrown in the shrubs and under the trees, so that the ants representing karaka of saturn, may feed upon them and give blessings from their souls to the person doing so (With afflicted Saturn). (Off the Beat- Salman Khan and others like him, who have hunted harmless Deer in the darkness of night are in for a very bad negative result of their evil Karma which is going to come to effect shortly in his Life. The Deer had nothing to defend himself in the darkness of the night. While Salman had torches, a Vehicle powered by energy of Battery and Diesel, weapons like Guns, more people aboard the jeep to save him in case of trouble . What show of manliness in front of those poor deers with only four supple legs to carry them to safety ? He has incurred a terrible Karma and would now face the wrath of the planet Saturn. )Such people spoil their Saturns themselves. A case of self-undoing. The 6th house of course shows this, but the 6th house also shows Maternal Uncles, and money received from Business clients, or remunerations from Service or job. Thus there is a direct connection, the more the money one has, the more he would be interested in employing servants for his various work. Also the above does not mean, that obe should look down upon Saturn. Saturn is the only planet which can give returns for ones Karmas (Karma through the 10th house and returns through the 11th in Kala Purusha Kundli). A person with weak Saturn and weak Jupiter, would never rise high in the rungs of success in his Life, If Saturn forms Sasa Yoga, then this same Saturn, makes the native enjoy the services of many servants, and in time makes him the head of a village or town ( To be translated into todays times and terminology). regards/Bhaskar. , " Raja Gursahani " <rajagursahani wrote: > > that saturn rules servants. I was basing this on texts but just wanted to > make sure. also what house rules subordinates or servants in general. I > believe it is the 6th house but any further clarification would be greatly > appreciated. > > > > thanks, > > > > __________ > > Raja G. Gursahani > *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA) > *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Dear Bhaskar Ji, It's a great posting. I m going ti post it other places also. regards, Lalit. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Raja, > > Saturn does signify, servants, menial class, > subordinates,workers, lower category staff, peons, > sweeper and shudras. Which is why a > person with afflicted Saturn should never > scold his servants, but keep them happy > to srtengthen his weak Saturn. Which is why > one should donate his old slippers and shoes to > the sweeper on any Saturday. (Leather donation > to karaka individual of Saturn- Sweeper) > In similiar manner Saturn also signifies > the creatures crawling on the earth (Capricorn- > Earthy sign)and black Crows in the Air (Aquarius- > Airy sign)who can be crushed immediately by anyone > walking on the road. These creatures are at the > mercy of others and have to be pitied and taken > care of.Which is why the ants are to be given > wheat balls thrown in the shrubs and under the > trees, so that the ants representing karaka > of saturn, may feed upon them and give blessings > from their souls to the person doing so (With > afflicted Saturn). > > (Off the Beat- Salman Khan and others like him, > who have hunted harmless Deer in the darkness > of night are in for a very bad negative result of > their evil Karma which is going to come to > effect shortly in his Life. The Deer had nothing to > defend himself in the darkness of the night. While > Salman had torches, a Vehicle powered by energy of > Battery and Diesel, weapons like Guns, more people > aboard the jeep to save him in case of trouble . > What show of manliness in front of those poor > deers with only four supple legs to carry them to > safety ? He has incurred a terrible Karma and would > now face the wrath of the planet Saturn. )Such > people spoil their Saturns themselves. A case > of self-undoing. > > The 6th house of course shows this, but the 6th house > also shows Maternal Uncles, and money received from > Business clients, or remunerations from Service or > job. Thus there is a direct connection, the more > the money one has, the more he would be interested in > employing servants for his various work. > > Also the above does not mean, that obe should look down > upon Saturn. Saturn is the only planet which can give > returns for ones Karmas (Karma through the 10th house > and returns through the 11th in Kala Purusha Kundli). > A person with weak Saturn and weak Jupiter, would never > rise high in the rungs of success in his Life, > > If Saturn forms Sasa Yoga, then this same Saturn, makes > the native enjoy the services of many servants, and > in time makes him the head of a village or town ( To > be translated into todays times and terminology). > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > , " Raja Gursahani " > <rajagursahani@> wrote: > > > > that saturn rules servants. I was basing this on texts but just > wanted to > > make sure. also what house rules subordinates or servants in general. I > > believe it is the 6th house but any further clarification would be > greatly > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > Raja G. Gursahani > > *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA) > > *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Dear Lalitji, Thank You, I just let the thoughts flow from the heart. And write them as they come. Good to know if someone appreciates same. regards, Bhaskar. , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > It's a great posting. I m going ti post it other places also. > > regards, > Lalit. > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > Saturn does signify, servants, menial class, > > subordinates,workers, lower category staff, peons, > > sweeper and shudras. Which is why a > > person with afflicted Saturn should never > > scold his servants, but keep them happy > > to srtengthen his weak Saturn. Which is why > > one should donate his old slippers and shoes to > > the sweeper on any Saturday. (Leather donation > > to karaka individual of Saturn- Sweeper) > > In similiar manner Saturn also signifies > > the creatures crawling on the earth (Capricorn- > > Earthy sign)and black Crows in the Air (Aquarius- > > Airy sign)who can be crushed immediately by anyone > > walking on the road. These creatures are at the > > mercy of others and have to be pitied and taken > > care of.Which is why the ants are to be given > > wheat balls thrown in the shrubs and under the > > trees, so that the ants representing karaka > > of saturn, may feed upon them and give blessings > > from their souls to the person doing so (With > > afflicted Saturn). > > > > (Off the Beat- Salman Khan and others like him, > > who have hunted harmless Deer in the darkness > > of night are in for a very bad negative result of > > their evil Karma which is going to come to > > effect shortly in his Life. The Deer had nothing to > > defend himself in the darkness of the night. While > > Salman had torches, a Vehicle powered by energy of > > Battery and Diesel, weapons like Guns, more people > > aboard the jeep to save him in case of trouble . > > What show of manliness in front of those poor > > deers with only four supple legs to carry them to > > safety ? He has incurred a terrible Karma and would > > now face the wrath of the planet Saturn. )Such > > people spoil their Saturns themselves. A case > > of self-undoing. > > > > The 6th house of course shows this, but the 6th house > > also shows Maternal Uncles, and money received from > > Business clients, or remunerations from Service or > > job. Thus there is a direct connection, the more > > the money one has, the more he would be interested in > > employing servants for his various work. > > > > Also the above does not mean, that obe should look down > > upon Saturn. Saturn is the only planet which can give > > returns for ones Karmas (Karma through the 10th house > > and returns through the 11th in Kala Purusha Kundli). > > A person with weak Saturn and weak Jupiter, would never > > rise high in the rungs of success in his Life, > > > > If Saturn forms Sasa Yoga, then this same Saturn, makes > > the native enjoy the services of many servants, and > > in time makes him the head of a village or town ( To > > be translated into todays times and terminology). > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " Raja Gursahani " > > <rajagursahani@> wrote: > > > > > > that saturn rules servants. I was basing this on texts but just > > wanted to > > > make sure. also what house rules subordinates or servants in > general. I > > > believe it is the 6th house but any further clarification would be > > greatly > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > Raja G. Gursahani > > > *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA) > > > *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Respected Bhaskar ji, It is really a good posting from your heart and experience.I Will like to add that Saturn is Communist party in mundane. --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Lalitji, > > Thank You, > I just let the thoughts flow from the heart. > And write them as they come. > Good to know if someone appreciates same. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > , " litsol " > <litsol wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > It's a great posting. I m going ti post it other > places also. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > Saturn does signify, servants, menial class, > > > subordinates,workers, lower category staff, > peons, > > > sweeper and shudras. Which is why a > > > person with afflicted Saturn should never > > > scold his servants, but keep them happy > > > to srtengthen his weak Saturn. Which is why > > > one should donate his old slippers and shoes to > > > the sweeper on any Saturday. (Leather donation > > > to karaka individual of Saturn- Sweeper) > > > In similiar manner Saturn also signifies > > > the creatures crawling on the earth (Capricorn- > > > Earthy sign)and black Crows in the Air > (Aquarius- > > > Airy sign)who can be crushed immediately by > anyone > > > walking on the road. These creatures are at the > > > mercy of others and have to be pitied and taken > > > care of.Which is why the ants are to be given > > > wheat balls thrown in the shrubs and under the > > > trees, so that the ants representing karaka > > > of saturn, may feed upon them and give blessings > > > > from their souls to the person doing so (With > > > afflicted Saturn). > > > > > > (Off the Beat- Salman Khan and others like him, > > > who have hunted harmless Deer in the darkness > > > of night are in for a very bad negative result > of > > > their evil Karma which is going to come to > > > effect shortly in his Life. The Deer had nothing > to > > > defend himself in the darkness of the night. > While > > > Salman had torches, a Vehicle powered by energy > of > > > Battery and Diesel, weapons like Guns, more > people > > > aboard the jeep to save him in case of trouble . > > > What show of manliness in front of those poor > > > deers with only four supple legs to carry them > to > > > safety ? He has incurred a terrible Karma and > would > > > now face the wrath of the planet Saturn. )Such > > > people spoil their Saturns themselves. A case > > > of self-undoing. > > > > > > The 6th house of course shows this, but the 6th > house > > > also shows Maternal Uncles, and money received > from > > > Business clients, or remunerations from Service > or > > > job. Thus there is a direct connection, the more > > > the money one has, the more he would be > interested in > > > employing servants for his various work. > > > > > > Also the above does not mean, that obe should > look down > > > upon Saturn. Saturn is the only planet which can > give > > > returns for ones Karmas (Karma through the 10th > house > > > and returns through the 11th in Kala Purusha > Kundli). > > > A person with weak Saturn and weak Jupiter, > would never > > > rise high in the rungs of success in his Life, > > > > > > If Saturn forms Sasa Yoga, then this same > Saturn, makes > > > the native enjoy the services of many servants, > and > > > in time makes him the head of a village or town > ( To > > > be translated into todays times and > terminology). > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Raja > Gursahani " > > > <rajagursahani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > that saturn rules servants. I was basing this > on texts but just > > > wanted to > > > > make sure. also what house rules subordinates > or servants in > > general. I > > > > believe it is the 6th house but any further > clarification would be > > > greatly > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > > > Raja G. Gursahani > > > > *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA) > > > > *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Namaste Shri Kursija ji, >>I Will like to add that Saturn is Communist party in mundane. Is this due to the horoscope of Communist Party or their Worker class friendly ideologies? By the latter approach, is it Mars that represents BJP and Rahu for Congress? Regards -Prasad , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote: > > Respected Bhaskar ji, > It is really a good posting from your heart and > experience.I Will like to add that Saturn is Communist > party in mundane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Dear Kursija ji, Well,Saturn does represent USSR (23 Degrees)as Aquarius sign rules this Communist country. Wherever Workers Union, or they say in Hindi " Gutbaaji " , camps are formed by common people or Groups who have been undernoursihed ( In all respects by their Masters, or under whom they are serving),and looking for justice, Saturn would be ruling here. The leader of this Group/Union would most probably be a native with Sasa Yoga or any similiar type of Yoga. regards, Bhaskar. , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote: > > Respected Bhaskar ji, > It is really a good posting from your heart and > experience.I Will like to add that Saturn is Communist > party in mundane. > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Lalitji, > > > > Thank You, > > I just let the thoughts flow from the heart. > > And write them as they come. > > Good to know if someone appreciates same. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " litsol " > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > It's a great posting. I m going ti post it other > > places also. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > Saturn does signify, servants, menial class, > > > > subordinates,workers, lower category staff, > > peons, > > > > sweeper and shudras. Which is why a > > > > person with afflicted Saturn should never > > > > scold his servants, but keep them happy > > > > to srtengthen his weak Saturn. Which is why > > > > one should donate his old slippers and shoes to > > > > the sweeper on any Saturday. (Leather donation > > > > to karaka individual of Saturn- Sweeper) > > > > In similiar manner Saturn also signifies > > > > the creatures crawling on the earth (Capricorn- > > > > Earthy sign)and black Crows in the Air > > (Aquarius- > > > > Airy sign)who can be crushed immediately by > > anyone > > > > walking on the road. These creatures are at the > > > > mercy of others and have to be pitied and taken > > > > care of.Which is why the ants are to be given > > > > wheat balls thrown in the shrubs and under the > > > > trees, so that the ants representing karaka > > > > of saturn, may feed upon them and give blessings > > > > > > from their souls to the person doing so (With > > > > afflicted Saturn). > > > > > > > > (Off the Beat- Salman Khan and others like him, > > > > who have hunted harmless Deer in the darkness > > > > of night are in for a very bad negative result > > of > > > > their evil Karma which is going to come to > > > > effect shortly in his Life. The Deer had nothing > > to > > > > defend himself in the darkness of the night. > > While > > > > Salman had torches, a Vehicle powered by energy > > of > > > > Battery and Diesel, weapons like Guns, more > > people > > > > aboard the jeep to save him in case of trouble . > > > > What show of manliness in front of those poor > > > > deers with only four supple legs to carry them > > to > > > > safety ? He has incurred a terrible Karma and > > would > > > > now face the wrath of the planet Saturn. )Such > > > > people spoil their Saturns themselves. A case > > > > of self-undoing. > > > > > > > > The 6th house of course shows this, but the 6th > > house > > > > also shows Maternal Uncles, and money received > > from > > > > Business clients, or remunerations from Service > > or > > > > job. Thus there is a direct connection, the more > > > > the money one has, the more he would be > > interested in > > > > employing servants for his various work. > > > > > > > > Also the above does not mean, that obe should > > look down > > > > upon Saturn. Saturn is the only planet which can > > give > > > > returns for ones Karmas (Karma through the 10th > > house > > > > and returns through the 11th in Kala Purusha > > Kundli). > > > > A person with weak Saturn and weak Jupiter, > > would never > > > > rise high in the rungs of success in his Life, > > > > > > > > If Saturn forms Sasa Yoga, then this same > > Saturn, makes > > > > the native enjoy the services of many servants, > > and > > > > in time makes him the head of a village or town > > ( To > > > > be translated into todays times and > > terminology). > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Raja > > Gursahani " > > > > <rajagursahani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > that saturn rules servants. I was basing this > > on texts but just > > > > wanted to > > > > > make sure. also what house rules subordinates > > or servants in > > > general. I > > > > > believe it is the 6th house but any further > > clarification would be > > > > greatly > > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > > > > > Raja G. Gursahani > > > > > *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA) > > > > > *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 yes marg, thanks for the info. just wanted to make sure however so the 6th house of ones chart shows their servants and their relationship with them? so servants could mean house servants as well? can you clarify any further. I understand that Saturn rules hard or menial labor jobs. _____________ _____________ Raja G. Gursahani *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA) *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 thank you Bhaskar, that was an amazing and thorough description of Saturn. I got exactly what you mean now. so would someone who is your personal assistant fall under this category as well. I guess it would be so? also scolding them would not be a good idea especially if you have a weak Saturn. namaskar, __________ Raja G. Gursahani *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA) *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Hi Raja I look at sixth for servants, employees, and those who offer a service to the native, also the nature and quality of the service they will offer. Also any aspects on Saturn and sixth ruler will say more, as well as planets in sixth. Yes I agree with you that this also it especially means domestic servants, but can also mean other servants nowadays. So if there is Jupiter in sixth it may be that the person visits health services a lot, if it is Moon then the native gets most services from women or domestic oriented services. It is possible to use sixth as lagna for servants, or those who are giving a service and read the nature and quality of them from there. Also look from lagna what house the planet in sixth rules, as if it rules seventh house then some friendship with servants will be there, or some friends may offer service. This would depend on malefic or benefic planets being involved, of course. If the ruler of first is in sixth then the person will be in service themselves. If Saturn is prominent in lagna then the person is likely to be the sort who gets involved in helping poor people, or people who are less well off than themselves, or even work in social work type industries, or may even befriend servants if other planets say so. Most charts I have seen where Saturn is in tenth and other kendras have usually got many 'servants' working for them, but of course other factors have to give a strong career position also for this to be likely. best wishes M - Raja Gursahani Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:44 PM Re: is it true yes marg, thanks for the info. just wanted to make sure however so the 6th house of ones chart shows their servants and their relationship with them? so servants could mean house servants as well? can you clarify any further. I understand that Saturn rules hard or menial labor jobs. _____________ _____________ Raja G. Gursahani *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA) *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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