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that saturn rules servants. I was basing this on texts but just wanted to

make sure. also what house rules subordinates or servants in general. I

believe it is the 6th house but any further clarification would be greatly

appreciated.

 

 

 

thanks,

 

 

 

__________

 

Raja G. Gursahani

*: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

*: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Raja

I find that Saturn does rule those who are in menial employment, domestics,

labourers, miners etc Generally it rules 'commoners' or those without land or

title or who are not very well off.

The sixth house is also where servants or subordinates can be seen with Saturn

as karaka.

best wishes

M

 

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Raja Gursahani

Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:37 AM

is it true

 

 

that saturn rules servants. I was basing this on texts but just wanted to

make sure. also what house rules subordinates or servants in general. I

believe it is the 6th house but any further clarification would be greatly

appreciated.

 

thanks,

 

________

 

Raja G. Gursahani

*: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

*: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

 

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Dear Raja,

 

Saturn does signify, servants, menial class,

subordinates,workers, lower category staff, peons,

sweeper and shudras. Which is why a

person with afflicted Saturn should never

scold his servants, but keep them happy

to srtengthen his weak Saturn. Which is why

one should donate his old slippers and shoes to

the sweeper on any Saturday. (Leather donation

to karaka individual of Saturn- Sweeper)

In similiar manner Saturn also signifies

the creatures crawling on the earth (Capricorn-

Earthy sign)and black Crows in the Air (Aquarius-

Airy sign)who can be crushed immediately by anyone

walking on the road. These creatures are at the

mercy of others and have to be pitied and taken

care of.Which is why the ants are to be given

wheat balls thrown in the shrubs and under the

trees, so that the ants representing karaka

of saturn, may feed upon them and give blessings

from their souls to the person doing so (With

afflicted Saturn).

 

(Off the Beat- Salman Khan and others like him,

who have hunted harmless Deer in the darkness

of night are in for a very bad negative result of

their evil Karma which is going to come to

effect shortly in his Life. The Deer had nothing to

defend himself in the darkness of the night. While

Salman had torches, a Vehicle powered by energy of

Battery and Diesel, weapons like Guns, more people

aboard the jeep to save him in case of trouble .

What show of manliness in front of those poor

deers with only four supple legs to carry them to

safety ? He has incurred a terrible Karma and would

now face the wrath of the planet Saturn. )Such

people spoil their Saturns themselves. A case

of self-undoing.

 

The 6th house of course shows this, but the 6th house

also shows Maternal Uncles, and money received from

Business clients, or remunerations from Service or

job. Thus there is a direct connection, the more

the money one has, the more he would be interested in

employing servants for his various work.

 

Also the above does not mean, that obe should look down

upon Saturn. Saturn is the only planet which can give

returns for ones Karmas (Karma through the 10th house

and returns through the 11th in Kala Purusha Kundli).

A person with weak Saturn and weak Jupiter, would never

rise high in the rungs of success in his Life,

 

If Saturn forms Sasa Yoga, then this same Saturn, makes

the native enjoy the services of many servants, and

in time makes him the head of a village or town ( To

be translated into todays times and terminology).

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Raja Gursahani "

<rajagursahani wrote:

>

> that saturn rules servants. I was basing this on texts but just

wanted to

> make sure. also what house rules subordinates or servants in general. I

> believe it is the 6th house but any further clarification would be

greatly

> appreciated.

>

>

>

> thanks,

>

>

>

> __________

>

> Raja G. Gursahani

> *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

It's a great posting. I m going ti post it other places also.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Raja,

>

> Saturn does signify, servants, menial class,

> subordinates,workers, lower category staff, peons,

> sweeper and shudras. Which is why a

> person with afflicted Saturn should never

> scold his servants, but keep them happy

> to srtengthen his weak Saturn. Which is why

> one should donate his old slippers and shoes to

> the sweeper on any Saturday. (Leather donation

> to karaka individual of Saturn- Sweeper)

> In similiar manner Saturn also signifies

> the creatures crawling on the earth (Capricorn-

> Earthy sign)and black Crows in the Air (Aquarius-

> Airy sign)who can be crushed immediately by anyone

> walking on the road. These creatures are at the

> mercy of others and have to be pitied and taken

> care of.Which is why the ants are to be given

> wheat balls thrown in the shrubs and under the

> trees, so that the ants representing karaka

> of saturn, may feed upon them and give blessings

> from their souls to the person doing so (With

> afflicted Saturn).

>

> (Off the Beat- Salman Khan and others like him,

> who have hunted harmless Deer in the darkness

> of night are in for a very bad negative result of

> their evil Karma which is going to come to

> effect shortly in his Life. The Deer had nothing to

> defend himself in the darkness of the night. While

> Salman had torches, a Vehicle powered by energy of

> Battery and Diesel, weapons like Guns, more people

> aboard the jeep to save him in case of trouble .

> What show of manliness in front of those poor

> deers with only four supple legs to carry them to

> safety ? He has incurred a terrible Karma and would

> now face the wrath of the planet Saturn. )Such

> people spoil their Saturns themselves. A case

> of self-undoing.

>

> The 6th house of course shows this, but the 6th house

> also shows Maternal Uncles, and money received from

> Business clients, or remunerations from Service or

> job. Thus there is a direct connection, the more

> the money one has, the more he would be interested in

> employing servants for his various work.

>

> Also the above does not mean, that obe should look down

> upon Saturn. Saturn is the only planet which can give

> returns for ones Karmas (Karma through the 10th house

> and returns through the 11th in Kala Purusha Kundli).

> A person with weak Saturn and weak Jupiter, would never

> rise high in the rungs of success in his Life,

>

> If Saturn forms Sasa Yoga, then this same Saturn, makes

> the native enjoy the services of many servants, and

> in time makes him the head of a village or town ( To

> be translated into todays times and terminology).

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , " Raja Gursahani "

> <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> >

> > that saturn rules servants. I was basing this on texts but just

> wanted to

> > make sure. also what house rules subordinates or servants in

general. I

> > believe it is the 6th house but any further clarification would be

> greatly

> > appreciated.

> >

> >

> >

> > thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> > __________

> >

> > Raja G. Gursahani

> > *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> > *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Lalitji,

 

Thank You,

I just let the thoughts flow from the heart.

And write them as they come.

Good to know if someone appreciates same.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> It's a great posting. I m going ti post it other places also.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raja,

> >

> > Saturn does signify, servants, menial class,

> > subordinates,workers, lower category staff, peons,

> > sweeper and shudras. Which is why a

> > person with afflicted Saturn should never

> > scold his servants, but keep them happy

> > to srtengthen his weak Saturn. Which is why

> > one should donate his old slippers and shoes to

> > the sweeper on any Saturday. (Leather donation

> > to karaka individual of Saturn- Sweeper)

> > In similiar manner Saturn also signifies

> > the creatures crawling on the earth (Capricorn-

> > Earthy sign)and black Crows in the Air (Aquarius-

> > Airy sign)who can be crushed immediately by anyone

> > walking on the road. These creatures are at the

> > mercy of others and have to be pitied and taken

> > care of.Which is why the ants are to be given

> > wheat balls thrown in the shrubs and under the

> > trees, so that the ants representing karaka

> > of saturn, may feed upon them and give blessings

> > from their souls to the person doing so (With

> > afflicted Saturn).

> >

> > (Off the Beat- Salman Khan and others like him,

> > who have hunted harmless Deer in the darkness

> > of night are in for a very bad negative result of

> > their evil Karma which is going to come to

> > effect shortly in his Life. The Deer had nothing to

> > defend himself in the darkness of the night. While

> > Salman had torches, a Vehicle powered by energy of

> > Battery and Diesel, weapons like Guns, more people

> > aboard the jeep to save him in case of trouble .

> > What show of manliness in front of those poor

> > deers with only four supple legs to carry them to

> > safety ? He has incurred a terrible Karma and would

> > now face the wrath of the planet Saturn. )Such

> > people spoil their Saturns themselves. A case

> > of self-undoing.

> >

> > The 6th house of course shows this, but the 6th house

> > also shows Maternal Uncles, and money received from

> > Business clients, or remunerations from Service or

> > job. Thus there is a direct connection, the more

> > the money one has, the more he would be interested in

> > employing servants for his various work.

> >

> > Also the above does not mean, that obe should look down

> > upon Saturn. Saturn is the only planet which can give

> > returns for ones Karmas (Karma through the 10th house

> > and returns through the 11th in Kala Purusha Kundli).

> > A person with weak Saturn and weak Jupiter, would never

> > rise high in the rungs of success in his Life,

> >

> > If Saturn forms Sasa Yoga, then this same Saturn, makes

> > the native enjoy the services of many servants, and

> > in time makes him the head of a village or town ( To

> > be translated into todays times and terminology).

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Raja Gursahani "

> > <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > that saturn rules servants. I was basing this on texts but just

> > wanted to

> > > make sure. also what house rules subordinates or servants in

> general. I

> > > believe it is the 6th house but any further clarification would be

> > greatly

> > > appreciated.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thanks,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________

> > >

> > > Raja G. Gursahani

> > > *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> > > *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Respected Bhaskar ji,

It is really a good posting from your heart and

experience.I Will like to add that Saturn is Communist

party in mundane.

--- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

 

> Dear Lalitji,

>

> Thank You,

> I just let the thoughts flow from the heart.

> And write them as they come.

> Good to know if someone appreciates same.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , " litsol "

> <litsol wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > It's a great posting. I m going ti post it other

> places also.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raja,

> > >

> > > Saturn does signify, servants, menial class,

> > > subordinates,workers, lower category staff,

> peons,

> > > sweeper and shudras. Which is why a

> > > person with afflicted Saturn should never

> > > scold his servants, but keep them happy

> > > to srtengthen his weak Saturn. Which is why

> > > one should donate his old slippers and shoes to

> > > the sweeper on any Saturday. (Leather donation

> > > to karaka individual of Saturn- Sweeper)

> > > In similiar manner Saturn also signifies

> > > the creatures crawling on the earth (Capricorn-

> > > Earthy sign)and black Crows in the Air

> (Aquarius-

> > > Airy sign)who can be crushed immediately by

> anyone

> > > walking on the road. These creatures are at the

> > > mercy of others and have to be pitied and taken

> > > care of.Which is why the ants are to be given

> > > wheat balls thrown in the shrubs and under the

> > > trees, so that the ants representing karaka

> > > of saturn, may feed upon them and give blessings

>

> > > from their souls to the person doing so (With

> > > afflicted Saturn).

> > >

> > > (Off the Beat- Salman Khan and others like him,

> > > who have hunted harmless Deer in the darkness

> > > of night are in for a very bad negative result

> of

> > > their evil Karma which is going to come to

> > > effect shortly in his Life. The Deer had nothing

> to

> > > defend himself in the darkness of the night.

> While

> > > Salman had torches, a Vehicle powered by energy

> of

> > > Battery and Diesel, weapons like Guns, more

> people

> > > aboard the jeep to save him in case of trouble .

> > > What show of manliness in front of those poor

> > > deers with only four supple legs to carry them

> to

> > > safety ? He has incurred a terrible Karma and

> would

> > > now face the wrath of the planet Saturn. )Such

> > > people spoil their Saturns themselves. A case

> > > of self-undoing.

> > >

> > > The 6th house of course shows this, but the 6th

> house

> > > also shows Maternal Uncles, and money received

> from

> > > Business clients, or remunerations from Service

> or

> > > job. Thus there is a direct connection, the more

> > > the money one has, the more he would be

> interested in

> > > employing servants for his various work.

> > >

> > > Also the above does not mean, that obe should

> look down

> > > upon Saturn. Saturn is the only planet which can

> give

> > > returns for ones Karmas (Karma through the 10th

> house

> > > and returns through the 11th in Kala Purusha

> Kundli).

> > > A person with weak Saturn and weak Jupiter,

> would never

> > > rise high in the rungs of success in his Life,

> > >

> > > If Saturn forms Sasa Yoga, then this same

> Saturn, makes

> > > the native enjoy the services of many servants,

> and

> > > in time makes him the head of a village or town

> ( To

> > > be translated into todays times and

> terminology).

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Raja

> Gursahani "

> > > <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > that saturn rules servants. I was basing this

> on texts but just

> > > wanted to

> > > > make sure. also what house rules subordinates

> or servants in

> > general. I

> > > > believe it is the 6th house but any further

> clarification would be

> > > greatly

> > > > appreciated.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > thanks,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

>

__________

> > > >

> > > > Raja G. Gursahani

> > > > *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> > > > *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > >

> > >

>

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Namaste Shri Kursija ji,

>>I Will like to add that Saturn is Communist party in mundane.

 

Is this due to the horoscope of Communist Party or their Worker class

friendly ideologies? By the latter approach, is it Mars that

represents BJP and Rahu for Congress?

 

Regards

-Prasad

 

 

, " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskar ji,

> It is really a good posting from your heart and

> experience.I Will like to add that Saturn is Communist

> party in mundane.

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Dear Kursija ji,

 

Well,Saturn does represent USSR (23 Degrees)as

Aquarius sign rules this Communist country.

 

Wherever Workers Union, or they say in Hindi

" Gutbaaji " , camps are formed by common people

or Groups who have been undernoursihed ( In

all respects by their Masters, or under whom

they are serving),and looking for justice,

Saturn would be ruling here.

The leader of this Group/Union would most

probably be a native with Sasa Yoga or any

similiar type of Yoga.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskar ji,

> It is really a good posting from your heart and

> experience.I Will like to add that Saturn is Communist

> party in mundane.

> --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> > Dear Lalitji,

> >

> > Thank You,

> > I just let the thoughts flow from the heart.

> > And write them as they come.

> > Good to know if someone appreciates same.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " litsol "

> > <litsol@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > > It's a great posting. I m going ti post it other

> > places also.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Raja,

> > > >

> > > > Saturn does signify, servants, menial class,

> > > > subordinates,workers, lower category staff,

> > peons,

> > > > sweeper and shudras. Which is why a

> > > > person with afflicted Saturn should never

> > > > scold his servants, but keep them happy

> > > > to srtengthen his weak Saturn. Which is why

> > > > one should donate his old slippers and shoes to

> > > > the sweeper on any Saturday. (Leather donation

> > > > to karaka individual of Saturn- Sweeper)

> > > > In similiar manner Saturn also signifies

> > > > the creatures crawling on the earth (Capricorn-

> > > > Earthy sign)and black Crows in the Air

> > (Aquarius-

> > > > Airy sign)who can be crushed immediately by

> > anyone

> > > > walking on the road. These creatures are at the

> > > > mercy of others and have to be pitied and taken

> > > > care of.Which is why the ants are to be given

> > > > wheat balls thrown in the shrubs and under the

> > > > trees, so that the ants representing karaka

> > > > of saturn, may feed upon them and give blessings

> >

> > > > from their souls to the person doing so (With

> > > > afflicted Saturn).

> > > >

> > > > (Off the Beat- Salman Khan and others like him,

> > > > who have hunted harmless Deer in the darkness

> > > > of night are in for a very bad negative result

> > of

> > > > their evil Karma which is going to come to

> > > > effect shortly in his Life. The Deer had nothing

> > to

> > > > defend himself in the darkness of the night.

> > While

> > > > Salman had torches, a Vehicle powered by energy

> > of

> > > > Battery and Diesel, weapons like Guns, more

> > people

> > > > aboard the jeep to save him in case of trouble .

> > > > What show of manliness in front of those poor

> > > > deers with only four supple legs to carry them

> > to

> > > > safety ? He has incurred a terrible Karma and

> > would

> > > > now face the wrath of the planet Saturn. )Such

> > > > people spoil their Saturns themselves. A case

> > > > of self-undoing.

> > > >

> > > > The 6th house of course shows this, but the 6th

> > house

> > > > also shows Maternal Uncles, and money received

> > from

> > > > Business clients, or remunerations from Service

> > or

> > > > job. Thus there is a direct connection, the more

> > > > the money one has, the more he would be

> > interested in

> > > > employing servants for his various work.

> > > >

> > > > Also the above does not mean, that obe should

> > look down

> > > > upon Saturn. Saturn is the only planet which can

> > give

> > > > returns for ones Karmas (Karma through the 10th

> > house

> > > > and returns through the 11th in Kala Purusha

> > Kundli).

> > > > A person with weak Saturn and weak Jupiter,

> > would never

> > > > rise high in the rungs of success in his Life,

> > > >

> > > > If Saturn forms Sasa Yoga, then this same

> > Saturn, makes

> > > > the native enjoy the services of many servants,

> > and

> > > > in time makes him the head of a village or town

> > ( To

> > > > be translated into todays times and

> > terminology).

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Raja

> > Gursahani "

> > > > <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > that saturn rules servants. I was basing this

> > on texts but just

> > > > wanted to

> > > > > make sure. also what house rules subordinates

> > or servants in

> > > general. I

> > > > > believe it is the 6th house but any further

> > clarification would be

> > > > greatly

> > > > > appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> >

> __________

> > > > >

> > > > > Raja G. Gursahani

> > > > > *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> > > > > *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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yes marg, thanks for the info. just wanted to make sure however so the 6th

house of ones chart shows their servants and their relationship with them?

so servants could mean house servants as well? can you clarify any further.

I understand that Saturn rules hard or menial labor jobs.

 

 

 

_____________ _____________

 

Raja G. Gursahani

*: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

*: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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thank you Bhaskar, that was an amazing and thorough description of Saturn. I

got exactly what you mean now. so would someone who is your personal

assistant fall under this category as well. I guess it would be so? also

scolding them would not be a good idea especially if you have a weak Saturn.

 

 

 

namaskar,

 

 

 

__________

 

Raja G. Gursahani

*: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

*: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Raja

I look at sixth for servants, employees, and those who offer a service to the

native, also the nature and quality of the service they will offer. Also any

aspects on Saturn and sixth ruler will say more, as well as planets in sixth.

Yes I agree with you that this also it especially means domestic servants, but

can also mean other servants nowadays.

 

So if there is Jupiter in sixth it may be that the person visits health services

a lot, if it is Moon then the native gets most services from women or domestic

oriented services. It is possible to use sixth as lagna for servants, or those

who are giving a service and read the nature and quality of them from there.

 

Also look from lagna what house the planet in sixth rules, as if it rules

seventh house then some friendship with servants will be there, or some friends

may offer service. This would depend on malefic or benefic planets being

involved, of course.

If the ruler of first is in sixth then the person will be in service themselves.

 

If Saturn is prominent in lagna then the person is likely to be the sort who

gets involved in helping poor people, or people who are less well off than

themselves, or even work in social work type industries, or may even befriend

servants if other planets say so. Most charts I have seen where Saturn is in

tenth and other kendras have usually got many 'servants' working for them, but

of course other factors have to give a strong career position also for this to

be likely.

best wishes

M

 

 

-

Raja Gursahani

Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:44 PM

Re: is it true

 

 

yes marg, thanks for the info. just wanted to make sure however so the 6th

house of ones chart shows their servants and their relationship with them?

so servants could mean house servants as well? can you clarify any further.

I understand that Saturn rules hard or menial labor jobs.

 

_____________ _____________

 

Raja G. Gursahani

*: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

*: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

 

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