Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Group, Read about angry planets and other research articles written by scholars in the following group - www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing Angry Planets (Notes of Lecture given at Indian Council of Astrological Studies, Hyderabad, India) Introduction Reincarnation is one of the theories of Hindu Philosophy. All beings take fresh births to experience the results of their actions (Karma) done in their previous birth. Even if there is a little Karma left over, it has to be experienced. The Karma can be either good or bad giving favorable or unfavorable results. There is nothing much to worry as long as the Karma is good for normal human beings. The human being suffers from misfortunes in the shape of loss of wealth, loss of name, death of kith and kin, diseases etc., as a result of bad Karma in his previous life. The position of planets in the birth chart would give a clue to find out the cause of one's good or bad karma done in the past life. When the planets are favorably placed, they indicate fruition of good Karma, otherwise that of evil Karma. The planets responsible for bad Karma in the past life would result in the person suffering from afflictions in the present life and these planets are called angry planets. It is believed that Atma Jnana (Self-Realization) can however overcome the effects of the good or bad karma. But many of the human beings cannot reach that state of Atma Jnana. So doing some remedial measures to these angry planets may reduce the evil effects due to the Angry Planets. The astrologer should, carefully divine whether one's past karma is favorable or unfavorable and in what manner it expresses itself. Angry Planets The Angry Planets causing evil Karma are the natural benefic planets deposited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and the natural malefic planets deposited in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th houses, from Chathra rasi, Arudha, Moon and Lagna. The deposition of planets in the 2nd, 3rd and 11th may be taken as neutral, since nothing is specifically mentioned about them in the available literature. Chathra Rashi The Chathra rasi is the sign counted from the Veedhi rasi. Count the number of signs from Arudha lagna to the birth lagna and then count this number from the Veedhi rasi to get the Chathra rasi. For example, if Arudha lagna is Capricorn and Veedhi rasi is Aries, birth lagna is Libra, count from Arudha lagna to birth lagna from Capricorn to Libra, which is 10, and then count 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of Aries which is Capricorn and so Chathra rasi is Capricorn. Similarly if birth lagna is Cancer, Arudha lagna is Aries, Veedhi rasi is Gemini, and then Chathra rasi is Virgo. Veedhi Rasi If Sun is in Taurus, Gemini, Cancer or Leo, the Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in Scorpio, Capricorn or Aquarius, Veedhi rasi is Gemini. If Sun is in the other signs, the Veedhi rasi is Taurus. For example, if Sun is in Leo, Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in Aquarius, Veedhi rasi is Gemini. If Sun is in Aries, Veedhi rasi is Taurus. Arudha Lagna Arudha lagna is the point obtained by counting as many signs from the place of the lord of the birth lagna is removed from birth lagna. Example is if the lord of the lagna is in the 4th, and then 7th from the lagna becomes the Arudha lagna. But the exceptions are if the lord of the lagna is in the lagna itself then the 4th from lagna becomes the Arudha lagna and if the lord of the lagna is in the 7th then the Arudha lagna will be the 10th from the lagna. For example, if the lagna is Taurus and the lord of the lagna Venus is in Libra in 6th, the, count 6 sings from Libra and the Arudha lagna will be Pisces. If the lagna is Aries and lord of lagna Mars is in Cancer, then count 7 signs from Aries and the Arudha lagna will be Libra. If the lagna is Libra and lord of lagna Venus is in Libra itself, count 4 signs from Libra and the Arudha lagna will be Capricorn. If the lagna is Cancer and the lord of the lagna Moon is in Capricorn, count 10 signs from Cancer and the Arudha lagna will be Aries. There may be some difference of opinions about fixing the Arudha lagna, as given above. The readers may use their own discretion about the rules they follow. Categories of Karma According to the disposition of the benefic and malefic planets in the birth chart from Chathra rasi, Arudha lagna, Moon or Birth lagna, the cause of the evil karma is ascertained. If benefics occupy 6th, 8th and 12th from Chathra rasi and malefics occupy 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th 10th, the sins and consequent evil effects are due to the Gods' wrath or fury of Gods. Here by Gods are also meant persons held in reverence such as parents, preceptors and elders. If the planets are found in the above places from Arudha lagna, the sins are the outcome of curses from Brahmins or Religious persons. If the planets occupy such places from Moon, the sins are due to the incantation (mantric) of enemies. If the planets are found in the above-mentioned places from birth lagna, the peoples' hatred will be the cause. Planets favorably placed, that is, benefics in 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, 10th and malefics in 6th, 8th, 12th, indicate merit derived from good deeds. The bad actions may be intentional or deliberate. They may also be either accidental or unintentional or done out of ignorance. They may also be both combined. If the indicator planet representing angry planets is in the Moon's sign, the sins are deliberately committed, If the indicator planet is in the house of Sun, the sons are ignorantly or accidentally got. Thought, Word, Deed Whether deliberate or accidental, the karma can again be divided into three categories arising out of Thought, Word and Deed. It can arise from mental actions such as entertaining or harboring evil thought or wishing others evil. It can be due to verbal actions such as indulging in abusive and filthy language. It can also be arising from bodily actions such as causing physical injury. Suppose one deliberately insults or assaults one's parents or elders. Here the nature of the evil Karma is due to the intentional Word and Deed. The same is the case when the person harbors evil thoughts and the evil Karma is due to thought. If on the other hand, one uses impolite language towards an elder through ignorance or slip of tongue, the nature of Karma is accidental by thought or Deed. Theaggreived party feels pain and this rebounds on the perpetrator of the karma. If a weak malefic is the 5th, the sins may be considered as the outcome of mental actions. If it is in the 2nd, they are the results of his words, cruel and unwanted. If it is in the 10th, they are the fruits of his bodily actions. If some planets indicate deliberate actions and some planets indicate accidental actions, a certain delicate balancing is called for. If malefic occupy 5th, 2nd and 10th houses, evil karma would have emanated from all the three- Thought, Word and Deed respectively. If malefics occupy only the 2nd and 5th while benieics occupy the 10th, the work is done unwillingly, complaining bitterly. If malefics occupy the 5th house while good planets are in the 2nd and 10th, the duties are done carelessly or indifferently without proper attention and this may generally bring loss of children since 5th represents children. If malefics occupy 2nd while benefics join the 5th and 10th houses, the evil has issued out of words, which may bring about loss of money since 2nd represents money. If these malefic are in debilitation or occupy inimical places or combust, they cause intense evil. If benefics are in exaltation, in own or friendly houses, the good they give will also be great. On the contrary, if malefics are exalted and if benefics are debilitated, their effects will be little. Examples of Angry Planets Example I Libra-lagna, Venus; Capricorn-Moon; Aquarius- Jupiter; Pisces- Saturn; Leo- Mercury, Mars, Sun; In the above chart, the birth lagna is Libra. Lord of lagna Venus is in lagna Libra itself. Therefore counting 4 signs from Libra (as per the exception) the Arudha lagna is Capricorn counting 4 signs from Libra. Sun is in Leo and therefore the Veedhi rasi is Aries. Aurdha lagna to birth lagna is 10 signs and then counting 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of Aries , the Chathra rasi is Capricorn. From Chathra rasi of Capricorn, the benefic Mercury is in Leo in 8th and the malefics Rahu and Ketu are in 10th and 4th. The other benefics Jupiter, Venus, Moon are in 2nd, 10th and 1st and the other malefics Saturn, mars, Sun are in 3rd, 8th from Chathra rasi of Capricorn. Therefore the Angry Planets due to Gods' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. From Arudha lagna of Capricorn, again the angry planets due to Brahmins' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. Again from Moon in Capricorn, the angry planets due to enemies' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. From birth lagna of Libra, Rahu and Ketu are in 7th and 1st and hence the angry planets due to Public wrath are Rahu and Ketu since other benefic planets Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury are in 1st, 4th, 5th, and 11th and the other malefic planets Saturn, Mars and Sun are in 6th and 11th houses. Thus Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are the Angry planets for this horoscope due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in previous life, which would give sufferings in present life as per their placement and signification in the birth chart. Example II Cancer-Lagna; Scorpio- Rahu; Capricorn- Moon, Mars,Mercury; Aquarius- Sun; Pisces-Jupiter, Venus; Taurus-Ketu; Gemini-Saturn. The birth lagna is Cancer. The Arudha lagna is Aries counting 10 signs from cancer as per exception. The Veedhi rasi is Gemini since Sun is in Aquarius. Arudha lagna to birth lagna is 4 signs and then counting 4 signs from Veedhi rasi of Gemini, the Chathra rasi id Virgo. From Chathra rasi of Virgo, the malefics Mars, Ketu and Saturn are in 5th, 9th and 10th and therefore the angry planets due to Gods' wrath are Mars, Saturn and Ketu. Since the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are in 5th, 7th from Chathra rasi of Virgo and the other malefics of Rahu and Sun are 3rd and 6th. From Arudha lagna, the benefics Jupiter and Venus are in the 12th and the malefic Mars is in 10th. Hence the angry planets due to Brahmins' wrath are Jupiter, Venus and Mars, since other benefics Moon and Mercury are in the 10th and the other malefics Saturn, Rahu and Sun are in 3rd, 8th and 11th from Arudha lagna of Aries. From Moon in Capricorn, themalefics Mars and Ketu are in 1st and 5th houses. The other malefics Sun, Saturn and Rahu are in 2nd, 6th and 11th and the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are in 1st and 3rd from Moon. Therefore the angry planets due to the enemies' wrath are Mars and Ketu. From birth lagna of Cancer, the malefics Rahu and Mars are in the 5th and 7th houses. The other malefics Sun, Ketu and Saturn are in 8th, 11th and 12th houses and the benefics Moon, Mercury, Jupiter and Venus are in 7th and 9th from birth lagna of Cancer. Therefore the angry planets due to people wrath are Mars and Rahu. Thus the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Ketu, Venus, Mars and Rahu are the angry planets due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in previous life as per their placement and significations in the birth chart. Remedial Measures After finding the angry planets due to various causes as mentioned above, the remedial measures are to be done to those angry planets by doing concerned pujas, by giving concerned charities, by praying concerned Gods etc. For example, if Sun is the angry planet, the remedial measures may be puja to Sun, charities of wheat, ruby, praying Lord Shiva etc. Details of remedial measures are not given here since it is totally a different subject and readers are requested to refer to books and articles on remedial measures or consult a knowledgeable and reliable astrologer or priest of their faith and choice. Conclusion Since the sins committed in past life are carried forward to the present life, the human being suffers in the present life. One should find out those sins committed in the past life and the concerned angry planets. Suitable remedial measures are to be done to those angry planets to lessen the evil effects in this present life. Also suitable care is to be taken in this life not to do any further evil to Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public by Thought, Word and Deed to avoid suffering from any curse or wrath from them in the next life. Thus nullifying all the bad karma in due course by completing the good Karma also, one can attain Salvation without Rebirth. The basis for this article is from the Prasna Sastra of Kerala extending to Natal birth chart. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Friend, Appreciate your zeal in promotion of the Group, with a prime member opting to move out from here, but using this same platform for canvassing. Another member in your group who has also canvassed in a unethical manner, calling other Groups as not being able to teach properly and commercialized. One should always stand on his own and not try to derive importance by show of negativity in others. Such prominence will give temporarary standing but not permanent. I am watching this fracas silently since two weeks, but speaking now, and very politely. The base has to be very strong and completely cemented with Ethics. The undermentioned article may be very good/maynot be,but to read it, one should present it in a short manner,maybe in 2 parts. At times the length dissaueds one from going through the whole essay, and one just reads the top and bottom, and moves to the next post. Take this suggestion as coming from a well wisher and not otherwise. Please ask one of the pundits in Your Forum to answer this Query- " How to judge whether one person has re-incarnated " . Here I dont mean the classical theories of judging the past Birth as coming from animal kingdom or going in next Birth to kingdom of devatas,Manes or back to humans. Short and simple explanation with definite clues to the answer, whether the person was a man in his previous Birth. regards. Bhaskar. In , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Group, > > Read about angry planets and other research articles written by scholars > in the following group - > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > Angry Planets > (Notes of Lecture given at Indian Council of Astrological Studies, > Hyderabad, India) > > Introduction > Reincarnation is one of the theories of Hindu Philosophy. All beings > take fresh births to experience the results of their actions (Karma) > done in their previous birth. Even if there is a little Karma left > over, it has to be experienced. The Karma can be either good or bad > giving favorable or unfavorable results. There is nothing much to worry > as long as the Karma is good for normal human beings. The human being > suffers from misfortunes in the shape of loss of wealth, loss of name, > death of kith and kin, diseases etc., as a result of bad Karma in his > previous life. > > The position of planets in the birth chart would give a clue to find > out the cause of one's good or bad karma done in the past life. When > the planets are favorably placed, they indicate fruition of good Karma, > otherwise that of evil Karma. The planets responsible for bad Karma in > the past life would result in the person suffering from afflictions in > the present life and these planets are called angry planets. > > It is believed that Atma Jnana (Self-Realization) can however overcome > the effects of the good or bad karma. But many of the human beings > cannot reach that state of Atma Jnana. So doing some remedial measures > to these angry planets may reduce the evil effects due to the Angry > Planets. > > The astrologer should, carefully divine whether one's past karma is > favorable or unfavorable and in what manner it expresses itself. > > Angry Planets > The Angry Planets causing evil Karma are the natural benefic planets > deposited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and the natural malefic planets > deposited in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th houses, from Chathra > rasi, Arudha, Moon and Lagna. The deposition of planets in the 2nd, 3rd > and 11th may be taken as neutral, since nothing is specifically > mentioned about them in the available literature. > > Chathra Rashi > The Chathra rasi is the sign counted from the Veedhi rasi. Count the > number of signs from Arudha lagna to the birth lagna and then count > this number from the Veedhi rasi to get the Chathra rasi. For example, > if Arudha lagna is Capricorn and Veedhi rasi is Aries, birth lagna is > Libra, count from Arudha lagna to birth lagna from Capricorn to Libra, > which is 10, and then count 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of Aries which is > Capricorn and so Chathra rasi is Capricorn. Similarly if birth lagna is > Cancer, Arudha lagna is Aries, Veedhi rasi is Gemini, and then Chathra > rasi is Virgo. > > Veedhi Rasi > If Sun is in Taurus, Gemini, Cancer or Leo, the Veedhi rasi is Aries. > If Sun is in Scorpio, Capricorn or Aquarius, Veedhi rasi is Gemini. If > Sun is in the other signs, the Veedhi rasi is Taurus. For example, if > Sun is in Leo, Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in Aquarius, Veedhi rasi > is Gemini. If Sun is in Aries, Veedhi rasi is Taurus. > > Arudha Lagna > Arudha lagna is the point obtained by counting as many signs from the > place of the lord of the birth lagna is removed from birth lagna. > Example is if the lord of the lagna is in the 4th, and then 7th from > the lagna becomes the Arudha lagna. But the exceptions are if the lord > of the lagna is in the lagna itself then the 4th from lagna becomes the > Arudha lagna and if the lord of the lagna is in the 7th then the Arudha > lagna will be the 10th from the lagna. > > For example, if the lagna is Taurus and the lord of the lagna Venus is > in Libra in 6th, the, count 6 sings from Libra and the Arudha lagna > will be Pisces. If the lagna is Aries and lord of lagna Mars is in > Cancer, then count 7 signs from Aries and the Arudha lagna will be > Libra. If the lagna is Libra and lord of lagna Venus is in Libra > itself, count 4 signs from Libra and the Arudha lagna will be > Capricorn. If the lagna is Cancer and the lord of the lagna Moon is in > Capricorn, count 10 signs from Cancer and the Arudha lagna will be > Aries. > > There may be some difference of opinions about fixing the Arudha lagna, > as given above. The readers may use their own discretion about the > rules they follow. > > Categories of Karma > According to the disposition of the benefic and malefic planets in the > birth chart from Chathra rasi, Arudha lagna, Moon or Birth lagna, the > cause of the evil karma is ascertained. If benefics occupy 6th, 8th and > 12th from Chathra rasi and malefics occupy 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th > 10th, the sins and consequent evil effects are due to the Gods' wrath > or fury of Gods. Here by Gods are also meant persons held in reverence > such as parents, preceptors and elders. If the planets are found in the > above places from Arudha lagna, the sins are the outcome of curses from > Brahmins or Religious persons. If the planets occupy such places from > Moon, the sins are due to the incantation (mantric) of enemies. If the > planets are found in the above-mentioned places from birth lagna, the > peoples' hatred will be the cause. > > Planets favorably placed, that is, benefics in 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, 10th > and malefics in 6th, 8th, 12th, indicate merit derived from good deeds. > > The bad actions may be intentional or deliberate. They may also be > either accidental or unintentional or done out of ignorance. They may > also be both combined. If the indicator planet representing angry > planets is in the Moon's sign, the sins are deliberately committed, If > the indicator planet is in the house of Sun, the sons are ignorantly or > accidentally got. > > > Thought, Word, Deed > Whether deliberate or accidental, the karma can again be divided into > three categories arising out of Thought, Word and Deed. It can arise > from mental actions such as entertaining or harboring evil thought or > wishing others evil. It can be due to verbal actions such as indulging > in abusive and filthy language. It can also be arising from bodily > actions such as causing physical injury. > > Suppose one deliberately insults or assaults one's parents or elders. > Here the nature of the evil Karma is due to the intentional Word and > Deed. The same is the case when the person harbors evil thoughts and > the evil Karma is due to thought. If on the other hand, one uses > impolite language towards an elder through ignorance or slip of tongue, > the nature of Karma is accidental by thought or Deed. Theaggreived > party feels pain and this rebounds on the perpetrator of the karma. > > If a weak malefic is the 5th, the sins may be considered as the outcome > of mental actions. If it is in the 2nd, they are the results of his > words, cruel and unwanted. If it is in the 10th, they are the fruits of > his bodily actions. > > If some planets indicate deliberate actions and some planets indicate > accidental actions, a certain delicate balancing is called for. If > malefic occupy 5th, 2nd and 10th houses, evil karma would have emanated > from all the three- Thought, Word and Deed respectively. If malefics > occupy only the 2nd and 5th while benieics occupy the 10th, the work is > done unwillingly, complaining bitterly. If malefics occupy the 5th > house while good planets are in the 2nd and 10th, the duties are done > carelessly or indifferently without proper attention and this may > generally bring loss of children since 5th represents children. If > malefics occupy 2nd while benefics join the 5th and 10th houses, the > evil has issued out of words, which may bring about loss of money since > 2nd represents money. If these malefic are in debilitation or occupy > inimical places or combust, they cause intense evil. If benefics are in > exaltation, in own or friendly houses, the good they give will also be > great. On the contrary, if malefics are exalted and if benefics are > debilitated, their effects will be little. > > Examples of Angry Planets > Example I > Libra-lagna, Venus; Capricorn-Moon; Aquarius- Jupiter; Pisces- Saturn; > Leo- Mercury, Mars, Sun; > > In the above chart, the birth lagna is Libra. Lord of lagna Venus is in > lagna Libra itself. Therefore counting 4 signs from Libra (as per the > exception) the Arudha lagna is Capricorn counting 4 signs from Libra. > Sun is in Leo and therefore the Veedhi rasi is Aries. Aurdha lagna to > birth lagna is 10 signs and then counting 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of > Aries , the Chathra rasi is Capricorn. > > From Chathra rasi of Capricorn, the benefic Mercury is in Leo in 8th > and the malefics Rahu and Ketu are in 10th and 4th. The other benefics > Jupiter, Venus, Moon are in 2nd, 10th and 1st and the other malefics > Saturn, mars, Sun are in 3rd, 8th from Chathra rasi of Capricorn. > Therefore the Angry Planets due to Gods' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and > Ketu. > > From Arudha lagna of Capricorn, again the angry planets due to > Brahmins' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. Again from Moon in > Capricorn, the angry planets due to enemies' wrath are Mercury, Rahu > and Ketu. From birth lagna of Libra, Rahu and Ketu are in 7th and 1st > and hence the angry planets due to Public wrath are Rahu and Ketu since > other benefic planets Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury are in 1st, 4th, > 5th, and 11th and the other malefic planets Saturn, Mars and Sun are in > 6th and 11th houses. > > Thus Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are the Angry planets for this horoscope > due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in previous life, > which would give sufferings in present life as per their placement and > signification in the birth chart. > > Example II > Cancer-Lagna; Scorpio- Rahu; Capricorn- Moon, Mars,Mercury; Aquarius- > Sun; Pisces-Jupiter, Venus; Taurus-Ketu; Gemini-Saturn. > > The birth lagna is Cancer. The Arudha lagna is Aries counting 10 signs > from cancer as per exception. The Veedhi rasi is Gemini since Sun is in > Aquarius. Arudha lagna to birth lagna is 4 signs and then counting 4 > signs from Veedhi rasi of Gemini, the Chathra rasi id Virgo. > > From Chathra rasi of Virgo, the malefics Mars, Ketu and Saturn are in > 5th, 9th and 10th and therefore the angry planets due to Gods' wrath > are Mars, Saturn and Ketu. Since the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus > are in 5th, 7th from Chathra rasi of Virgo and the other malefics of > Rahu and Sun are 3rd and 6th. > > From Arudha lagna, the benefics Jupiter and Venus are in the 12th and > the malefic Mars is in 10th. Hence the angry planets due to Brahmins' > wrath are Jupiter, Venus and Mars, since other benefics Moon and > Mercury are in the 10th and the other malefics Saturn, Rahu and Sun are > in 3rd, 8th and 11th from Arudha lagna of Aries. > > From Moon in Capricorn, themalefics Mars and Ketu are in 1st and 5th > houses. The other malefics Sun, Saturn and Rahu are in 2nd, 6th and > 11th and the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are in 1st and 3rd from > Moon. Therefore the angry planets due to the enemies' wrath are Mars > and Ketu. > > From birth lagna of Cancer, the malefics Rahu and Mars are in the 5th > and 7th houses. The other malefics Sun, Ketu and Saturn are in 8th, > 11th and 12th houses and the benefics Moon, Mercury, Jupiter and Venus > are in 7th and 9th from birth lagna of Cancer. Therefore the angry > planets due to people wrath are Mars and Rahu. > > Thus the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Ketu, Venus, Mars and Rahu are the > angry planets due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in > previous life as per their placement and significations in the birth > chart. > > Remedial Measures > After finding the angry planets due to various causes as mentioned > above, the remedial measures are to be done to those angry planets by > doing concerned pujas, by giving concerned charities, by praying > concerned Gods etc. For example, if Sun is the angry planet, the > remedial measures may be puja to Sun, charities of wheat, ruby, praying > Lord Shiva etc. Details of remedial measures are not given here since > it is totally a different subject and readers are requested to refer to > books and articles on remedial measures or consult a knowledgeable and > reliable astrologer or priest of their faith and choice. > > Conclusion > Since the sins committed in past life are carried forward to the > present life, the human being suffers in the present life. One should > find out those sins committed in the past life and the concerned angry > planets. Suitable remedial measures are to be done to those angry > planets to lessen the evil effects in this present life. Also suitable > care is to be taken in this life not to do any further evil to Gods, > Brahmins, Enemies and Public by Thought, Word and Deed to avoid > suffering from any curse or wrath from them in the next life. Thus > nullifying all the bad karma in due course by completing the good Karma > also, one can attain Salvation without Rebirth. The basis for this > article is from the Prasna Sastra of Kerala extending to Natal birth > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 As the owner-moderator of the group, let me make it clear that I have absolutely no problem in other Astrology groups promoting themselves and inviting our members to their groups, if it helps to serve the larger cause of Astrology. However, I do take objection to promoting products and commercial websites in this forum, as that is not our object. warm regards, raj rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I appreciate your message Hope web site owners have taken note... On 10/3/07, indiadirector <raj wrote: > > As the owner-moderator of the group, let me make it clear that I have > absolutely no problem in other Astrology groups promoting themselves > and inviting our members to their groups, if it helps to serve the > larger cause of Astrology. > > However, I do take objection to promoting products and commercial > websites in this forum, as that is not our object. > > warm regards, > raj rao > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Sudhir, Positive response to the Moderators mail would have been the following - ....Hope the website Owners who are promoting their websites here, have taken note.And, ....Thanks to those members who have their websites,yet are not promoting the same here. The above would have brought some happiness to me, since I fall in the latter category. regards, Bhaskar. In , Sudhir <taurus.sudhir wrote: > > I appreciate your message > Hope web site owners have taken note... > > > On 10/3/07, indiadirector <raj wrote: > > > > As the owner-moderator of the group, let me make it clear that I have > > absolutely no problem in other Astrology groups promoting themselves > > and inviting our members to their groups, if it helps to serve the > > larger cause of Astrology. > > > > However, I do take objection to promoting products and commercial > > websites in this forum, as that is not our object. > > > > warm regards, > > raj rao > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, Firstly let me clarify to you that i m not a hard core astrologer, I work with HCL Technologies, Noida as a Project Leader, Astrology journey is merely 5 months old, but i have read around 35 - 40 books in last 5 months, so m well aware of grey areas of astrology, i thought to collect research papers of renowned astrologers from here and there and put in one group and also discuss current affairs with the help of astrology. regarding ur query, sound's little arrogant, coz, though i myself have been doing researches in computer science and going to obtain my PHD in just 1 year from now, never spoken to anyone like this. That what cant be crosschecked i find somewhat useless to ask, everyone is a reincarnation, so how u descriminate my reincarnation and ur's reincarnations ? However, u can be answered, may be not by me, but by others, I have practised yoga and spirituality through mantras for more than 9 yrs, if u have any spiritual query u can ask me, coz, i have some practical experience in this area. my mail is : mlalit and mishra.lalit cell : 09868014069. I also dont understand what makes astrologers so much frustrated and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will just try to belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with the greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what is root cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board of examination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the dearth of a system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly. regards, Lalit Mishra. Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Friend, Appreciate your zeal in promotion of the Group, with a prime member opting to move out from here, but using this same platform for canvassing. Another member in your group who has also canvassed in a unethical manner, calling other Groups as not being able to teach properly and commercialized. One should always stand on his own and not try to derive importance by show of negativity in others. Such prominence will give temporarary standing but not permanent. I am watching this fracas silently since two weeks, but speaking now, and very politely. The base has to be very strong and completely cemented with Ethics. The undermentioned article may be very good/maynot be,but to read it, one should present it in a short manner,maybe in 2 parts. At times the length dissaueds one from going through the whole essay, and one just reads the top and bottom, and moves to the next post. Take this suggestion as coming from a well wisher and not otherwise. Please ask one of the pundits in Your Forum to answer this Query- " How to judge whether one person has re-incarnated " . Here I dont mean the classical theories of judging the past Birth as coming from animal kingdom or going in next Birth to kingdom of devatas,Manes or back to humans. Short and simple explanation with definite clues to the answer, whether the person was a man in his previous Birth. regards. Bhaskar. In , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Group, > > Read about angry planets and other research articles written by scholars > in the following group - > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > Angry Planets > (Notes of Lecture given at Indian Council of Astrological Studies, > Hyderabad, India) > > Introduction > Reincarnation is one of the theories of Hindu Philosophy. All beings > take fresh births to experience the results of their actions (Karma) > done in their previous birth. Even if there is a little Karma left > over, it has to be experienced. The Karma can be either good or bad > giving favorable or unfavorable results. There is nothing much to worry > as long as the Karma is good for normal human beings. The human being > suffers from misfortunes in the shape of loss of wealth, loss of name, > death of kith and kin, diseases etc., as a result of bad Karma in his > previous life. > > The position of planets in the birth chart would give a clue to find > out the cause of one's good or bad karma done in the past life. When > the planets are favorably placed, they indicate fruition of good Karma, > otherwise that of evil Karma. The planets responsible for bad Karma in > the past life would result in the person suffering from afflictions in > the present life and these planets are called angry planets. > > It is believed that Atma Jnana (Self-Realization) can however overcome > the effects of the good or bad karma. But many of the human beings > cannot reach that state of Atma Jnana. So doing some remedial measures > to these angry planets may reduce the evil effects due to the Angry > Planets. > > The astrologer should, carefully divine whether one's past karma is > favorable or unfavorable and in what manner it expresses itself. > > Angry Planets > The Angry Planets causing evil Karma are the natural benefic planets > deposited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and the natural malefic planets > deposited in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th houses, from Chathra > rasi, Arudha, Moon and Lagna. The deposition of planets in the 2nd, 3rd > and 11th may be taken as neutral, since nothing is specifically > mentioned about them in the available literature. > > Chathra Rashi > The Chathra rasi is the sign counted from the Veedhi rasi. Count the > number of signs from Arudha lagna to the birth lagna and then count > this number from the Veedhi rasi to get the Chathra rasi. For example, > if Arudha lagna is Capricorn and Veedhi rasi is Aries, birth lagna is > Libra, count from Arudha lagna to birth lagna from Capricorn to Libra, > which is 10, and then count 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of Aries which is > Capricorn and so Chathra rasi is Capricorn. Similarly if birth lagna is > Cancer, Arudha lagna is Aries, Veedhi rasi is Gemini, and then Chathra > rasi is Virgo. > > Veedhi Rasi > If Sun is in Taurus, Gemini, Cancer or Leo, the Veedhi rasi is Aries. > If Sun is in Scorpio, Capricorn or Aquarius, Veedhi rasi is Gemini. If > Sun is in the other signs, the Veedhi rasi is Taurus. For example, if > Sun is in Leo, Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in Aquarius, Veedhi rasi > is Gemini. If Sun is in Aries, Veedhi rasi is Taurus. > > Arudha Lagna > Arudha lagna is the point obtained by counting as many signs from the > place of the lord of the birth lagna is removed from birth lagna. > Example is if the lord of the lagna is in the 4th, and then 7th from > the lagna becomes the Arudha lagna. But the exceptions are if the lord > of the lagna is in the lagna itself then the 4th from lagna becomes the > Arudha lagna and if the lord of the lagna is in the 7th then the Arudha > lagna will be the 10th from the lagna. > > For example, if the lagna is Taurus and the lord of the lagna Venus is > in Libra in 6th, the, count 6 sings from Libra and the Arudha lagna > will be Pisces. If the lagna is Aries and lord of lagna Mars is in > Cancer, then count 7 signs from Aries and the Arudha lagna will be > Libra. If the lagna is Libra and lord of lagna Venus is in Libra > itself, count 4 signs from Libra and the Arudha lagna will be > Capricorn. If the lagna is Cancer and the lord of the lagna Moon is in > Capricorn, count 10 signs from Cancer and the Arudha lagna will be > Aries. > > There may be some difference of opinions about fixing the Arudha lagna, > as given above. The readers may use their own discretion about the > rules they follow. > > Categories of Karma > According to the disposition of the benefic and malefic planets in the > birth chart from Chathra rasi, Arudha lagna, Moon or Birth lagna, the > cause of the evil karma is ascertained. If benefics occupy 6th, 8th and > 12th from Chathra rasi and malefics occupy 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th > 10th, the sins and consequent evil effects are due to the Gods' wrath > or fury of Gods. Here by Gods are also meant persons held in reverence > such as parents, preceptors and elders. If the planets are found in the > above places from Arudha lagna, the sins are the outcome of curses from > Brahmins or Religious persons. If the planets occupy such places from > Moon, the sins are due to the incantation (mantric) of enemies. If the > planets are found in the above-mentioned places from birth lagna, the > peoples' hatred will be the cause. > > Planets favorably placed, that is, benefics in 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, 10th > and malefics in 6th, 8th, 12th, indicate merit derived from good deeds. > > The bad actions may be intentional or deliberate. They may also be > either accidental or unintentional or done out of ignorance. They may > also be both combined. If the indicator planet representing angry > planets is in the Moon's sign, the sins are deliberately committed, If > the indicator planet is in the house of Sun, the sons are ignorantly or > accidentally got. > > > Thought, Word, Deed > Whether deliberate or accidental, the karma can again be divided into > three categories arising out of Thought, Word and Deed. It can arise > from mental actions such as entertaining or harboring evil thought or > wishing others evil. It can be due to verbal actions such as indulging > in abusive and filthy language. It can also be arising from bodily > actions such as causing physical injury. > > Suppose one deliberately insults or assaults one's parents or elders. > Here the nature of the evil Karma is due to the intentional Word and > Deed. The same is the case when the person harbors evil thoughts and > the evil Karma is due to thought. If on the other hand, one uses > impolite language towards an elder through ignorance or slip of tongue, > the nature of Karma is accidental by thought or Deed. Theaggreived > party feels pain and this rebounds on the perpetrator of the karma. > > If a weak malefic is the 5th, the sins may be considered as the outcome > of mental actions. If it is in the 2nd, they are the results of his > words, cruel and unwanted. If it is in the 10th, they are the fruits of > his bodily actions. > > If some planets indicate deliberate actions and some planets indicate > accidental actions, a certain delicate balancing is called for. If > malefic occupy 5th, 2nd and 10th houses, evil karma would have emanated > from all the three- Thought, Word and Deed respectively. If malefics > occupy only the 2nd and 5th while benieics occupy the 10th, the work is > done unwillingly, complaining bitterly. If malefics occupy the 5th > house while good planets are in the 2nd and 10th, the duties are done > carelessly or indifferently without proper attention and this may > generally bring loss of children since 5th represents children. If > malefics occupy 2nd while benefics join the 5th and 10th houses, the > evil has issued out of words, which may bring about loss of money since > 2nd represents money. If these malefic are in debilitation or occupy > inimical places or combust, they cause intense evil. If benefics are in > exaltation, in own or friendly houses, the good they give will also be > great. On the contrary, if malefics are exalted and if benefics are > debilitated, their effects will be little. > > Examples of Angry Planets > Example I > Libra-lagna, Venus; Capricorn-Moon; Aquarius- Jupiter; Pisces- Saturn; > Leo- Mercury, Mars, Sun; > > In the above chart, the birth lagna is Libra. Lord of lagna Venus is in > lagna Libra itself. Therefore counting 4 signs from Libra (as per the > exception) the Arudha lagna is Capricorn counting 4 signs from Libra. > Sun is in Leo and therefore the Veedhi rasi is Aries. Aurdha lagna to > birth lagna is 10 signs and then counting 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of > Aries , the Chathra rasi is Capricorn. > > From Chathra rasi of Capricorn, the benefic Mercury is in Leo in 8th > and the malefics Rahu and Ketu are in 10th and 4th. The other benefics > Jupiter, Venus, Moon are in 2nd, 10th and 1st and the other malefics > Saturn, mars, Sun are in 3rd, 8th from Chathra rasi of Capricorn. > Therefore the Angry Planets due to Gods' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and > Ketu. > > From Arudha lagna of Capricorn, again the angry planets due to > Brahmins' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. Again from Moon in > Capricorn, the angry planets due to enemies' wrath are Mercury, Rahu > and Ketu. From birth lagna of Libra, Rahu and Ketu are in 7th and 1st > and hence the angry planets due to Public wrath are Rahu and Ketu since > other benefic planets Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury are in 1st, 4th, > 5th, and 11th and the other malefic planets Saturn, Mars and Sun are in > 6th and 11th houses. > > Thus Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are the Angry planets for this horoscope > due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in previous life, > which would give sufferings in present life as per their placement and > signification in the birth chart. > > Example II > Cancer-Lagna; Scorpio- Rahu; Capricorn- Moon, Mars,Mercury; Aquarius- > Sun; Pisces-Jupiter, Venus; Taurus-Ketu; Gemini-Saturn. > > The birth lagna is Cancer. The Arudha lagna is Aries counting 10 signs > from cancer as per exception. The Veedhi rasi is Gemini since Sun is in > Aquarius. Arudha lagna to birth lagna is 4 signs and then counting 4 > signs from Veedhi rasi of Gemini, the Chathra rasi id Virgo. > > From Chathra rasi of Virgo, the malefics Mars, Ketu and Saturn are in > 5th, 9th and 10th and therefore the angry planets due to Gods' wrath > are Mars, Saturn and Ketu. Since the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus > are in 5th, 7th from Chathra rasi of Virgo and the other malefics of > Rahu and Sun are 3rd and 6th. > > From Arudha lagna, the benefics Jupiter and Venus are in the 12th and > the malefic Mars is in 10th. Hence the angry planets due to Brahmins' > wrath are Jupiter, Venus and Mars, since other benefics Moon and > Mercury are in the 10th and the other malefics Saturn, Rahu and Sun are > in 3rd, 8th and 11th from Arudha lagna of Aries. > > From Moon in Capricorn, themalefics Mars and Ketu are in 1st and 5th > houses. The other malefics Sun, Saturn and Rahu are in 2nd, 6th and > 11th and the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are in 1st and 3rd from > Moon. Therefore the angry planets due to the enemies' wrath are Mars > and Ketu. > > From birth lagna of Cancer, the malefics Rahu and Mars are in the 5th > and 7th houses. The other malefics Sun, Ketu and Saturn are in 8th, > 11th and 12th houses and the benefics Moon, Mercury, Jupiter and Venus > are in 7th and 9th from birth lagna of Cancer. Therefore the angry > planets due to people wrath are Mars and Rahu. > > Thus the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Ketu, Venus, Mars and Rahu are the > angry planets due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in > previous life as per their placement and significations in the birth > chart. > > Remedial Measures > After finding the angry planets due to various causes as mentioned > above, the remedial measures are to be done to those angry planets by > doing concerned pujas, by giving concerned charities, by praying > concerned Gods etc. For example, if Sun is the angry planet, the > remedial measures may be puja to Sun, charities of wheat, ruby, praying > Lord Shiva etc. Details of remedial measures are not given here since > it is totally a different subject and readers are requested to refer to > books and articles on remedial measures or consult a knowledgeable and > reliable astrologer or priest of their faith and choice. > > Conclusion > Since the sins committed in past life are carried forward to the > present life, the human being suffers in the present life. One should > find out those sins committed in the past life and the concerned angry > planets. Suitable remedial measures are to be done to those angry > planets to lessen the evil effects in this present life. Also suitable > care is to be taken in this life not to do any further evil to Gods, > Brahmins, Enemies and Public by Thought, Word and Deed to avoid > suffering from any curse or wrath from them in the next life. Thus > nullifying all the bad karma in due course by completing the good Karma > also, one can attain Salvation without Rebirth. The basis for this > article is from the Prasna Sastra of Kerala extending to Natal birth > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Lalit ji, Namaste. I have noted the many of your accomplishments enumerated by Your own self,in the mail, and congratulate You for the same.May You move ahead in Your Life day by day. There is some misunderstanding. My Query was genuine, I will repeat more clearly what was my Query. We all are are re-incarnations, I agree to this, but I was actually looking for pointers which could tell whether a natives chart showed that His last birth too was a human one.Because my own brother was told by a person who looks at Auras and predicts, that he was a Egyptian King in his last Birth. Therefore how to find out whether one had a human Birth in his last Birth, was actually my Query.Yes I also agree that this cannot be cross checked. I have never been spiritual in the real sense of the term, just spend time trying to deliver duties towards family, so I may not have anything to ask you here. But if you have done Karma-Kand properly in the ordained manner ( I suppose You are a Brahmin? (Mishra)) then I may ask you any query in future about Mantras, whenever I face a problem personally, mind You, and not to test your knowledge. The last para of your mail does not go with the spirituality you have portrayed about yourself. How can You judge whether a person is narrowminded,frustrated,or belittling someone, when this was not the case at all. You have tied up with astrologers on Your Forum on the condition that they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the other condition, that they bring in customers by spreading name of Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity. Mr Pradeep and Chandrasekharji have been roped in from here, the good person Ash has been belittled, and thrown out . Mr.Gopuji did not fall in the trap. etc. Sir, I know all preaching and practise going on in todays world.the others whom You have given " Gurupads " I am sure would be thrown down the same, the day they stop abiding by You. let us not preach but deliver the stuff in astrology, or whichever field of activity one is in. Hope we meet again not before few Years from now, till I attain the level of your spirituality or vice versa. Your reply to me was just a platform to advertise about your accomplishments and the spirituality you possess and also Your Phone numbers for the gullible folks. I had been warned about you by a actual religious personality, but unfortunately I wrote to you. Any way Goodbye. God bless you with sadbudhi.Yes I am sorry for the arrogance You witnessed in me. I have a wrong habit of talking straight unfortunately. And again I beg of you to be forgiven for the same, more so if You are a Brahmin by Birth ( To me does not matter what karma You are into.) regards, Bhaskar. To the Moderator- Sorry I had to reply him for what he mentioned in His last para. , Lalit Mishra <litsol wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > Firstly let me clarify to you that i m not a hard core astrologer, I work with HCL Technologies, Noida as a Project Leader, Astrology journey is merely 5 months old, but i have read around 35 - 40 books in last 5 months, so m well aware of grey areas of astrology, i thought to collect research papers of renowned astrologers from here and there and put in one group and also discuss current affairs with the help of astrology. > > regarding ur query, sound's little arrogant, coz, though i myself have been doing researches in computer science and going to obtain my PHD in just 1 year from now, never spoken to anyone like this. > > That what cant be crosschecked i find somewhat useless to ask, everyone is a reincarnation, so how u descriminate my reincarnation and ur's reincarnations ? > > However, u can be answered, may be not by me, but by others, I have practised yoga and spirituality through mantras for more than 9 yrs, if u have any spiritual query u can ask me, coz, i have some practical experience in this area. > > my mail is : mlalit and mishra.lalit > cell : 09868014069. > > I also dont understand what makes astrologers so much frustrated and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will just try to belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with the greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what is root cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board of examination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the dearth of a system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly. > > regards, > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Friend, > > Appreciate your zeal in promotion of the > Group, with a prime member opting to move > out from here, but using this same > platform for canvassing. Another member > in your group who has also canvassed in > a unethical manner, calling other > Groups as not being able to > teach properly and commercialized. > One should always stand on his own > and not try to derive importance > by show of negativity in others. > Such prominence will give temporarary > standing but not permanent. I am > watching this fracas silently > since two weeks, but speaking > now, and very politely. The base > has to be very strong > and completely cemented with Ethics. > > The undermentioned article may be very > good/maynot be,but to read it, one should > present it in a short manner,maybe in 2 > parts. At times the length dissaueds one > from going through the whole essay, and > one just reads the top and bottom, and > moves to the next post. Take this > suggestion as coming from a well wisher > and not otherwise. > > Please ask one of the pundits in Your > Forum to answer this Query- > " How to judge whether one person > has re-incarnated " . > Here I dont mean the classical theories > of judging the past Birth as coming from > animal kingdom or going in > next Birth to kingdom of devatas,Manes > or back to humans. > Short and simple explanation with definite > clues to the answer, whether the > person was a man in his previous > Birth. > > regards. > Bhaskar. > > In , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > Read about angry planets and other research articles written by scholars > > in the following group - > > > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > Angry Planets > > (Notes of Lecture given at Indian Council of Astrological Studies, > > Hyderabad, India) > > > > Introduction > > Reincarnation is one of the theories of Hindu Philosophy. All beings > > take fresh births to experience the results of their actions (Karma) > > done in their previous birth. Even if there is a little Karma left > > over, it has to be experienced. The Karma can be either good or bad > > giving favorable or unfavorable results. There is nothing much to worry > > as long as the Karma is good for normal human beings. The human being > > suffers from misfortunes in the shape of loss of wealth, loss of name, > > death of kith and kin, diseases etc., as a result of bad Karma in his > > previous life. > > > > The position of planets in the birth chart would give a clue to find > > out the cause of one's good or bad karma done in the past life. When > > the planets are favorably placed, they indicate fruition of good Karma, > > otherwise that of evil Karma. The planets responsible for bad Karma in > > the past life would result in the person suffering from afflictions in > > the present life and these planets are called angry planets. > > > > It is believed that Atma Jnana (Self-Realization) can however overcome > > the effects of the good or bad karma. But many of the human beings > > cannot reach that state of Atma Jnana. So doing some remedial measures > > to these angry planets may reduce the evil effects due to the Angry > > Planets. > > > > The astrologer should, carefully divine whether one's past karma is > > favorable or unfavorable and in what manner it expresses itself. > > > > Angry Planets > > The Angry Planets causing evil Karma are the natural benefic planets > > deposited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and the natural malefic planets > > deposited in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th houses, from Chathra > > rasi, Arudha, Moon and Lagna. The deposition of planets in the 2nd, 3rd > > and 11th may be taken as neutral, since nothing is specifically > > mentioned about them in the available literature. > > > > Chathra Rashi > > The Chathra rasi is the sign counted from the Veedhi rasi. Count the > > number of signs from Arudha lagna to the birth lagna and then count > > this number from the Veedhi rasi to get the Chathra rasi. For example, > > if Arudha lagna is Capricorn and Veedhi rasi is Aries, birth lagna is > > Libra, count from Arudha lagna to birth lagna from Capricorn to Libra, > > which is 10, and then count 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of Aries which is > > Capricorn and so Chathra rasi is Capricorn. Similarly if birth lagna is > > Cancer, Arudha lagna is Aries, Veedhi rasi is Gemini, and then Chathra > > rasi is Virgo. > > > > Veedhi Rasi > > If Sun is in Taurus, Gemini, Cancer or Leo, the Veedhi rasi is Aries. > > If Sun is in Scorpio, Capricorn or Aquarius, Veedhi rasi is Gemini. If > > Sun is in the other signs, the Veedhi rasi is Taurus. For example, if > > Sun is in Leo, Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in Aquarius, Veedhi rasi > > is Gemini. If Sun is in Aries, Veedhi rasi is Taurus. > > > > Arudha Lagna > > Arudha lagna is the point obtained by counting as many signs from the > > place of the lord of the birth lagna is removed from birth lagna. > > Example is if the lord of the lagna is in the 4th, and then 7th from > > the lagna becomes the Arudha lagna. But the exceptions are if the lord > > of the lagna is in the lagna itself then the 4th from lagna becomes the > > Arudha lagna and if the lord of the lagna is in the 7th then the Arudha > > lagna will be the 10th from the lagna. > > > > For example, if the lagna is Taurus and the lord of the lagna Venus is > > in Libra in 6th, the, count 6 sings from Libra and the Arudha lagna > > will be Pisces. If the lagna is Aries and lord of lagna Mars is in > > Cancer, then count 7 signs from Aries and the Arudha lagna will be > > Libra. If the lagna is Libra and lord of lagna Venus is in Libra > > itself, count 4 signs from Libra and the Arudha lagna will be > > Capricorn. If the lagna is Cancer and the lord of the lagna Moon is in > > Capricorn, count 10 signs from Cancer and the Arudha lagna will be > > Aries. > > > > There may be some difference of opinions about fixing the Arudha lagna, > > as given above. The readers may use their own discretion about the > > rules they follow. > > > > Categories of Karma > > According to the disposition of the benefic and malefic planets in the > > birth chart from Chathra rasi, Arudha lagna, Moon or Birth lagna, the > > cause of the evil karma is ascertained. If benefics occupy 6th, 8th and > > 12th from Chathra rasi and malefics occupy 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th > > 10th, the sins and consequent evil effects are due to the Gods' wrath > > or fury of Gods. Here by Gods are also meant persons held in reverence > > such as parents, preceptors and elders. If the planets are found in the > > above places from Arudha lagna, the sins are the outcome of curses from > > Brahmins or Religious persons. If the planets occupy such places from > > Moon, the sins are due to the incantation (mantric) of enemies. If the > > planets are found in the above-mentioned places from birth lagna, the > > peoples' hatred will be the cause. > > > > Planets favorably placed, that is, benefics in 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, 10th > > and malefics in 6th, 8th, 12th, indicate merit derived from good deeds. > > > > The bad actions may be intentional or deliberate. They may also be > > either accidental or unintentional or done out of ignorance. They may > > also be both combined. If the indicator planet representing angry > > planets is in the Moon's sign, the sins are deliberately committed, If > > the indicator planet is in the house of Sun, the sons are ignorantly or > > accidentally got. > > > > > > Thought, Word, Deed > > Whether deliberate or accidental, the karma can again be divided into > > three categories arising out of Thought, Word and Deed. It can arise > > from mental actions such as entertaining or harboring evil thought or > > wishing others evil. It can be due to verbal actions such as indulging > > in abusive and filthy language. It can also be arising from bodily > > actions such as causing physical injury. > > > > Suppose one deliberately insults or assaults one's parents or elders. > > Here the nature of the evil Karma is due to the intentional Word and > > Deed. The same is the case when the person harbors evil thoughts and > > the evil Karma is due to thought. If on the other hand, one uses > > impolite language towards an elder through ignorance or slip of tongue, > > the nature of Karma is accidental by thought or Deed. Theaggreived > > party feels pain and this rebounds on the perpetrator of the karma. > > > > If a weak malefic is the 5th, the sins may be considered as the outcome > > of mental actions. If it is in the 2nd, they are the results of his > > words, cruel and unwanted. If it is in the 10th, they are the fruits of > > his bodily actions. > > > > If some planets indicate deliberate actions and some planets indicate > > accidental actions, a certain delicate balancing is called for. If > > malefic occupy 5th, 2nd and 10th houses, evil karma would have emanated > > from all the three- Thought, Word and Deed respectively. If malefics > > occupy only the 2nd and 5th while benieics occupy the 10th, the work is > > done unwillingly, complaining bitterly. If malefics occupy the 5th > > house while good planets are in the 2nd and 10th, the duties are done > > carelessly or indifferently without proper attention and this may > > generally bring loss of children since 5th represents children. If > > malefics occupy 2nd while benefics join the 5th and 10th houses, the > > evil has issued out of words, which may bring about loss of money since > > 2nd represents money. If these malefic are in debilitation or occupy > > inimical places or combust, they cause intense evil. If benefics are in > > exaltation, in own or friendly houses, the good they give will also be > > great. On the contrary, if malefics are exalted and if benefics are > > debilitated, their effects will be little. > > > > Examples of Angry Planets > > Example I > > Libra-lagna, Venus; Capricorn-Moon; Aquarius- Jupiter; Pisces- Saturn; > > Leo- Mercury, Mars, Sun; > > > > In the above chart, the birth lagna is Libra. Lord of lagna Venus is in > > lagna Libra itself. Therefore counting 4 signs from Libra (as per the > > exception) the Arudha lagna is Capricorn counting 4 signs from Libra. > > Sun is in Leo and therefore the Veedhi rasi is Aries. Aurdha lagna to > > birth lagna is 10 signs and then counting 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of > > Aries , the Chathra rasi is Capricorn. > > > > From Chathra rasi of Capricorn, the benefic Mercury is in Leo in 8th > > and the malefics Rahu and Ketu are in 10th and 4th. The other benefics > > Jupiter, Venus, Moon are in 2nd, 10th and 1st and the other malefics > > Saturn, mars, Sun are in 3rd, 8th from Chathra rasi of Capricorn. > > Therefore the Angry Planets due to Gods' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and > > Ketu. > > > > From Arudha lagna of Capricorn, again the angry planets due to > > Brahmins' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. Again from Moon in > > Capricorn, the angry planets due to enemies' wrath are Mercury, Rahu > > and Ketu. From birth lagna of Libra, Rahu and Ketu are in 7th and 1st > > and hence the angry planets due to Public wrath are Rahu and Ketu since > > other benefic planets Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury are in 1st, 4th, > > 5th, and 11th and the other malefic planets Saturn, Mars and Sun are in > > 6th and 11th houses. > > > > Thus Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are the Angry planets for this horoscope > > due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in previous life, > > which would give sufferings in present life as per their placement and > > signification in the birth chart. > > > > Example II > > Cancer-Lagna; Scorpio- Rahu; Capricorn- Moon, Mars,Mercury; Aquarius- > > Sun; Pisces-Jupiter, Venus; Taurus-Ketu; Gemini-Saturn. > > > > The birth lagna is Cancer. The Arudha lagna is Aries counting 10 signs > > from cancer as per exception. The Veedhi rasi is Gemini since Sun is in > > Aquarius. Arudha lagna to birth lagna is 4 signs and then counting 4 > > signs from Veedhi rasi of Gemini, the Chathra rasi id Virgo. > > > > From Chathra rasi of Virgo, the malefics Mars, Ketu and Saturn are in > > 5th, 9th and 10th and therefore the angry planets due to Gods' wrath > > are Mars, Saturn and Ketu. Since the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus > > are in 5th, 7th from Chathra rasi of Virgo and the other malefics of > > Rahu and Sun are 3rd and 6th. > > > > From Arudha lagna, the benefics Jupiter and Venus are in the 12th and > > the malefic Mars is in 10th. Hence the angry planets due to Brahmins' > > wrath are Jupiter, Venus and Mars, since other benefics Moon and > > Mercury are in the 10th and the other malefics Saturn, Rahu and Sun are > > in 3rd, 8th and 11th from Arudha lagna of Aries. > > > > From Moon in Capricorn, themalefics Mars and Ketu are in 1st and 5th > > houses. The other malefics Sun, Saturn and Rahu are in 2nd, 6th and > > 11th and the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are in 1st and 3rd from > > Moon. Therefore the angry planets due to the enemies' wrath are Mars > > and Ketu. > > > > From birth lagna of Cancer, the malefics Rahu and Mars are in the 5th > > and 7th houses. The other malefics Sun, Ketu and Saturn are in 8th, > > 11th and 12th houses and the benefics Moon, Mercury, Jupiter and Venus > > are in 7th and 9th from birth lagna of Cancer. Therefore the angry > > planets due to people wrath are Mars and Rahu. > > > > Thus the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Ketu, Venus, Mars and Rahu are the > > angry planets due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in > > previous life as per their placement and significations in the birth > > chart. > > > > Remedial Measures > > After finding the angry planets due to various causes as mentioned > > above, the remedial measures are to be done to those angry planets by > > doing concerned pujas, by giving concerned charities, by praying > > concerned Gods etc. For example, if Sun is the angry planet, the > > remedial measures may be puja to Sun, charities of wheat, ruby, praying > > Lord Shiva etc. Details of remedial measures are not given here since > > it is totally a different subject and readers are requested to refer to > > books and articles on remedial measures or consult a knowledgeable and > > reliable astrologer or priest of their faith and choice. > > > > Conclusion > > Since the sins committed in past life are carried forward to the > > present life, the human being suffers in the present life. One should > > find out those sins committed in the past life and the concerned angry > > planets. Suitable remedial measures are to be done to those angry > > planets to lessen the evil effects in this present life. Also suitable > > care is to be taken in this life not to do any further evil to Gods, > > Brahmins, Enemies and Public by Thought, Word and Deed to avoid > > suffering from any curse or wrath from them in the next life. Thus > > nullifying all the bad karma in due course by completing the good Karma > > also, one can attain Salvation without Rebirth. The basis for this > > article is from the Prasna Sastra of Kerala extending to Natal birth > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 My Dear Bhaskar, It looks u r already a member of my group coz u know other members, and reading the discussion/articles, i collect from here and there and post in the various groups, may be, u r learning also from such postins coz u r member there, i feel good for u. I w'd like to object ur this sentance - " Customer " . I understand friends and people like me who join for their interest, or for getting some remedy, who are customers ? Who sees customer ? Discussion Groups have become marketplace ? may be ,people like u are treating groups as market, Any way, that's ur practice, i m no one to preech u down, However, I w'd like to object what u have written, i see some sort of mischief , before u, once one astrologer Dakschhinamurty confronted me and he is nowhere now, cleverness without truth hardly persists for long- " You have tied up with astrologers on Your Forum on the condition that they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the other condition, that they bring in customers by spreading name of Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity " what type of man u r ? My dear, if somone asks, we help free of cost, i have been helped by so many astrologers , they themselves helped me and same way this helping attitude is going on, I will ensure it's going on. I have seen few people like u fears with my presence coz I speak for doing research to dispel doubts one basic things like - retrograde planets, planets in cusp, debilitated planet, so few people thinks they will loose their iconic image, No, it's not like that, if u come up with real life cases along with ur's invention or ur's observations, u will still get recognition, dont fear me. pls. try to uunderstand ur's a bunch of fake allegations... is no way a straighforwardness rather it shows either u r misguided or u r misguiding people, some hiddent interest, why u only know ? I will repeat, in fact ur's reply makes me repeat, however, i will work to make a plateform, an organisation that can standradise the practices of astrology like we do have in Software (ISO and CMM) , Read again what i did write earlier - " I also don't understand what makes astrologers so much frustrated and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will just try to belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with the greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what is root cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board ofexamination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the dearth of a system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly " regards, Lalit. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Lalit ji, > > Namaste. > > I have noted the many of your accomplishments > enumerated by Your own self,in the mail, > and congratulate You for the same.May You move > ahead in Your Life day by day. > > There is some misunderstanding. > My Query was genuine, I will repeat more > clearly what was my Query. We all are are > re-incarnations, I agree to this, > but I was actually looking for pointers > which could tell whether a natives chart > showed that His last birth too was a human > one.Because my own brother was told > by a person who looks at Auras and predicts, > that he was a Egyptian King in his last Birth. > Therefore how to find out whether one had > a human Birth in his last Birth, > was actually my Query.Yes I also agree > that this cannot be cross checked. > > I have never been spiritual in the real sense > of the term, just spend time trying to deliver > duties towards family, so I may not have > anything to ask you here. But if you have done > Karma-Kand properly in the ordained manner > ( I suppose You are a Brahmin? (Mishra)) > then I may ask you any query in future > about Mantras, whenever I face a problem > personally, mind You, and not to test your > knowledge. > > The last para of your mail does not > go with the spirituality you have portrayed > about yourself. How can You judge whether a > person is narrowminded,frustrated,or belittling > someone, when this was not the case at all. > > You have tied up with astrologers on Your > Forum on the condition that > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > other condition, that they > bring in customers by spreading name of > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity. > Mr Pradeep and Chandrasekharji have been roped > in from here, the good person Ash has been > belittled, and thrown out . > Mr.Gopuji did not fall in the trap. > etc. Sir, I know all preaching and practise > going on in todays world.the others whom You have > given " Gurupads " I am sure would be thrown > down the same, the day they stop abiding by > You. > > let us not preach but deliver the stuff in > astrology, or whichever field of activity one > is in. > > Hope we meet again not before few > Years from now, till I attain > the level of your spirituality > or vice versa. > > Your reply to me was just a platform to > advertise about your accomplishments and > the spirituality you possess and also > Your Phone numbers for the gullible folks. > > I had been warned about you by a actual religious > personality, but unfortunately I wrote to you. > > Any way Goodbye. > God bless you with sadbudhi.Yes I am sorry for the > arrogance You witnessed in me. I have a wrong habit > of talking straight unfortunately. And again I > beg of you to be forgiven for the same, more > so if You are a Brahmin by Birth ( To me does not > matter what karma You are into.) > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > To the Moderator- > Sorry I had to reply him for what he mentioned in > His last para. > > > > > > , Lalit Mishra litsol@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > Firstly let me clarify to you that i m not a hard core astrologer, > I work with HCL Technologies, Noida as a Project Leader, Astrology > journey is merely 5 months old, but i have read around 35 - 40 books > in last 5 months, so m well aware of grey areas of astrology, i > thought to collect research papers of renowned astrologers from here > and there and put in one group and also discuss current affairs with > the help of astrology. > > > > regarding ur query, sound's little arrogant, coz, though i myself > have been doing researches in computer science and going to obtain my > PHD in just 1 year from now, never spoken to anyone like this. > > > > That what cant be crosschecked i find somewhat useless to ask, > everyone is a reincarnation, so how u descriminate my reincarnation > and ur's reincarnations ? > > > > However, u can be answered, may be not by me, but by others, I > have practised yoga and spirituality through mantras for more than 9 > yrs, if u have any spiritual query u can ask me, coz, i have some > practical experience in this area. > > > > my mail is : mlalit@ and mishra.lalit@ > > cell : 09868014069. > > > > I also dont understand what makes astrologers so much frustrated > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will just try to > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with the > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what is root > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board of > examination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the dearth of a > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly. > > > > regards, > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > Dear Friend, > > > > Appreciate your zeal in promotion of the > > Group, with a prime member opting to move > > out from here, but using this same > > platform for canvassing. Another member > > in your group who has also canvassed in > > a unethical manner, calling other > > Groups as not being able to > > teach properly and commercialized. > > One should always stand on his own > > and not try to derive importance > > by show of negativity in others. > > Such prominence will give temporarary > > standing but not permanent. I am > > watching this fracas silently > > since two weeks, but speaking > > now, and very politely. The base > > has to be very strong > > and completely cemented with Ethics. > > > > The undermentioned article may be very > > good/maynot be,but to read it, one should > > present it in a short manner,maybe in 2 > > parts. At times the length dissaueds one > > from going through the whole essay, and > > one just reads the top and bottom, and > > moves to the next post. Take this > > suggestion as coming from a well wisher > > and not otherwise. > > > > Please ask one of the pundits in Your > > Forum to answer this Query- > > " How to judge whether one person > > has re-incarnated " . > > Here I dont mean the classical theories > > of judging the past Birth as coming from > > animal kingdom or going in > > next Birth to kingdom of devatas,Manes > > or back to humans. > > Short and simple explanation with definite > > clues to the answer, whether the > > person was a man in his previous > > Birth. > > > > regards. > > Bhaskar. > > > > In , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Read about angry planets and other research articles written by > scholars > > > in the following group - > > > > > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > (Notes of Lecture given at Indian Council of Astrological Studies, > > > Hyderabad, India) > > > > > > Introduction > > > Reincarnation is one of the theories of Hindu Philosophy. All beings > > > take fresh births to experience the results of their actions (Karma) > > > done in their previous birth. Even if there is a little Karma left > > > over, it has to be experienced. The Karma can be either good or bad > > > giving favorable or unfavorable results. There is nothing much to > worry > > > as long as the Karma is good for normal human beings. The human being > > > suffers from misfortunes in the shape of loss of wealth, loss of > name, > > > death of kith and kin, diseases etc., as a result of bad Karma in his > > > previous life. > > > > > > The position of planets in the birth chart would give a clue to find > > > out the cause of one's good or bad karma done in the past life. When > > > the planets are favorably placed, they indicate fruition of good > Karma, > > > otherwise that of evil Karma. The planets responsible for bad > Karma in > > > the past life would result in the person suffering from > afflictions in > > > the present life and these planets are called angry planets. > > > > > > It is believed that Atma Jnana (Self-Realization) can however > overcome > > > the effects of the good or bad karma. But many of the human beings > > > cannot reach that state of Atma Jnana. So doing some remedial > measures > > > to these angry planets may reduce the evil effects due to the Angry > > > Planets. > > > > > > The astrologer should, carefully divine whether one's past karma is > > > favorable or unfavorable and in what manner it expresses itself. > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > The Angry Planets causing evil Karma are the natural benefic planets > > > deposited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and the natural malefic planets > > > deposited in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th houses, from > Chathra > > > rasi, Arudha, Moon and Lagna. The deposition of planets in the > 2nd, 3rd > > > and 11th may be taken as neutral, since nothing is specifically > > > mentioned about them in the available literature. > > > > > > Chathra Rashi > > > The Chathra rasi is the sign counted from the Veedhi rasi. Count the > > > number of signs from Arudha lagna to the birth lagna and then count > > > this number from the Veedhi rasi to get the Chathra rasi. For > example, > > > if Arudha lagna is Capricorn and Veedhi rasi is Aries, birth lagna is > > > Libra, count from Arudha lagna to birth lagna from Capricorn to > Libra, > > > which is 10, and then count 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of Aries > which is > > > Capricorn and so Chathra rasi is Capricorn. Similarly if birth > lagna is > > > Cancer, Arudha lagna is Aries, Veedhi rasi is Gemini, and then > Chathra > > > rasi is Virgo. > > > > > > Veedhi Rasi > > > If Sun is in Taurus, Gemini, Cancer or Leo, the Veedhi rasi is Aries. > > > If Sun is in Scorpio, Capricorn or Aquarius, Veedhi rasi is > Gemini. If > > > Sun is in the other signs, the Veedhi rasi is Taurus. For example, if > > > Sun is in Leo, Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in Aquarius, Veedhi > rasi > > > is Gemini. If Sun is in Aries, Veedhi rasi is Taurus. > > > > > > Arudha Lagna > > > Arudha lagna is the point obtained by counting as many signs from the > > > place of the lord of the birth lagna is removed from birth lagna. > > > Example is if the lord of the lagna is in the 4th, and then 7th from > > > the lagna becomes the Arudha lagna. But the exceptions are if the > lord > > > of the lagna is in the lagna itself then the 4th from lagna > becomes the > > > Arudha lagna and if the lord of the lagna is in the 7th then the > Arudha > > > lagna will be the 10th from the lagna. > > > > > > For example, if the lagna is Taurus and the lord of the lagna > Venus is > > > in Libra in 6th, the, count 6 sings from Libra and the Arudha lagna > > > will be Pisces. If the lagna is Aries and lord of lagna Mars is in > > > Cancer, then count 7 signs from Aries and the Arudha lagna will be > > > Libra. If the lagna is Libra and lord of lagna Venus is in Libra > > > itself, count 4 signs from Libra and the Arudha lagna will be > > > Capricorn. If the lagna is Cancer and the lord of the lagna Moon > is in > > > Capricorn, count 10 signs from Cancer and the Arudha lagna will be > > > Aries. > > > > > > There may be some difference of opinions about fixing the Arudha > lagna, > > > as given above. The readers may use their own discretion about the > > > rules they follow. > > > > > > Categories of Karma > > > According to the disposition of the benefic and malefic planets in > the > > > birth chart from Chathra rasi, Arudha lagna, Moon or Birth lagna, the > > > cause of the evil karma is ascertained. If benefics occupy 6th, > 8th and > > > 12th from Chathra rasi and malefics occupy 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th > > > 10th, the sins and consequent evil effects are due to the Gods' wrath > > > or fury of Gods. Here by Gods are also meant persons held in > reverence > > > such as parents, preceptors and elders. If the planets are found > in the > > > above places from Arudha lagna, the sins are the outcome of curses > from > > > Brahmins or Religious persons. If the planets occupy such places from > > > Moon, the sins are due to the incantation (mantric) of enemies. If > the > > > planets are found in the above-mentioned places from birth lagna, the > > > peoples' hatred will be the cause. > > > > > > Planets favorably placed, that is, benefics in 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, > 10th > > > and malefics in 6th, 8th, 12th, indicate merit derived from good > deeds. > > > > > > The bad actions may be intentional or deliberate. They may also be > > > either accidental or unintentional or done out of ignorance. They may > > > also be both combined. If the indicator planet representing angry > > > planets is in the Moon's sign, the sins are deliberately > committed, If > > > the indicator planet is in the house of Sun, the sons are > ignorantly or > > > accidentally got. > > > > > > > > > Thought, Word, Deed > > > Whether deliberate or accidental, the karma can again be divided into > > > three categories arising out of Thought, Word and Deed. It can arise > > > from mental actions such as entertaining or harboring evil thought or > > > wishing others evil. It can be due to verbal actions such as > indulging > > > in abusive and filthy language. It can also be arising from bodily > > > actions such as causing physical injury. > > > > > > Suppose one deliberately insults or assaults one's parents or elders. > > > Here the nature of the evil Karma is due to the intentional Word and > > > Deed. The same is the case when the person harbors evil thoughts and > > > the evil Karma is due to thought. If on the other hand, one uses > > > impolite language towards an elder through ignorance or slip of > tongue, > > > the nature of Karma is accidental by thought or Deed. Theaggreived > > > party feels pain and this rebounds on the perpetrator of the karma. > > > > > > If a weak malefic is the 5th, the sins may be considered as the > outcome > > > of mental actions. If it is in the 2nd, they are the results of his > > > words, cruel and unwanted. If it is in the 10th, they are the > fruits of > > > his bodily actions. > > > > > > If some planets indicate deliberate actions and some planets indicate > > > accidental actions, a certain delicate balancing is called for. If > > > malefic occupy 5th, 2nd and 10th houses, evil karma would have > emanated > > > from all the three- Thought, Word and Deed respectively. If malefics > > > occupy only the 2nd and 5th while benieics occupy the 10th, the > work is > > > done unwillingly, complaining bitterly. If malefics occupy the 5th > > > house while good planets are in the 2nd and 10th, the duties are done > > > carelessly or indifferently without proper attention and this may > > > generally bring loss of children since 5th represents children. If > > > malefics occupy 2nd while benefics join the 5th and 10th houses, the > > > evil has issued out of words, which may bring about loss of money > since > > > 2nd represents money. If these malefic are in debilitation or occupy > > > inimical places or combust, they cause intense evil. If benefics > are in > > > exaltation, in own or friendly houses, the good they give will > also be > > > great. On the contrary, if malefics are exalted and if benefics are > > > debilitated, their effects will be little. > > > > > > Examples of Angry Planets > > > Example I > > > Libra-lagna, Venus; Capricorn-Moon; Aquarius- Jupiter; Pisces- > Saturn; > > > Leo- Mercury, Mars, Sun; > > > > > > In the above chart, the birth lagna is Libra. Lord of lagna Venus > is in > > > lagna Libra itself. Therefore counting 4 signs from Libra (as per the > > > exception) the Arudha lagna is Capricorn counting 4 signs from Libra. > > > Sun is in Leo and therefore the Veedhi rasi is Aries. Aurdha lagna to > > > birth lagna is 10 signs and then counting 10 signs from Veedhi > rasi of > > > Aries , the Chathra rasi is Capricorn. > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Capricorn, the benefic Mercury is in Leo in 8th > > > and the malefics Rahu and Ketu are in 10th and 4th. The other > benefics > > > Jupiter, Venus, Moon are in 2nd, 10th and 1st and the other malefics > > > Saturn, mars, Sun are in 3rd, 8th from Chathra rasi of Capricorn. > > > Therefore the Angry Planets due to Gods' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and > > > Ketu. > > > > > > From Arudha lagna of Capricorn, again the angry planets due to > > > Brahmins' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. Again from Moon in > > > Capricorn, the angry planets due to enemies' wrath are Mercury, Rahu > > > and Ketu. From birth lagna of Libra, Rahu and Ketu are in 7th and 1st > > > and hence the angry planets due to Public wrath are Rahu and Ketu > since > > > other benefic planets Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury are in 1st, 4th, > > > 5th, and 11th and the other malefic planets Saturn, Mars and Sun > are in > > > 6th and 11th houses. > > > > > > Thus Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are the Angry planets for this horoscope > > > due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in previous > life, > > > which would give sufferings in present life as per their placement > and > > > signification in the birth chart. > > > > > > Example II > > > Cancer-Lagna; Scorpio- Rahu; Capricorn- Moon, Mars,Mercury; Aquarius- > > > Sun; Pisces-Jupiter, Venus; Taurus-Ketu; Gemini-Saturn. > > > > > > The birth lagna is Cancer. The Arudha lagna is Aries counting 10 > signs > > > from cancer as per exception. The Veedhi rasi is Gemini since Sun > is in > > > Aquarius. Arudha lagna to birth lagna is 4 signs and then counting 4 > > > signs from Veedhi rasi of Gemini, the Chathra rasi id Virgo. > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Virgo, the malefics Mars, Ketu and Saturn are in > > > 5th, 9th and 10th and therefore the angry planets due to Gods' wrath > > > are Mars, Saturn and Ketu. Since the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus > > > are in 5th, 7th from Chathra rasi of Virgo and the other malefics of > > > Rahu and Sun are 3rd and 6th. > > > > > > From Arudha lagna, the benefics Jupiter and Venus are in the 12th and > > > the malefic Mars is in 10th. Hence the angry planets due to Brahmins' > > > wrath are Jupiter, Venus and Mars, since other benefics Moon and > > > Mercury are in the 10th and the other malefics Saturn, Rahu and > Sun are > > > in 3rd, 8th and 11th from Arudha lagna of Aries. > > > > > > From Moon in Capricorn, themalefics Mars and Ketu are in 1st and 5th > > > houses. The other malefics Sun, Saturn and Rahu are in 2nd, 6th and > > > 11th and the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are in 1st and 3rd from > > > Moon. Therefore the angry planets due to the enemies' wrath are Mars > > > and Ketu. > > > > > > From birth lagna of Cancer, the malefics Rahu and Mars are in the 5th > > > and 7th houses. The other malefics Sun, Ketu and Saturn are in 8th, > > > 11th and 12th houses and the benefics Moon, Mercury, Jupiter and > Venus > > > are in 7th and 9th from birth lagna of Cancer. Therefore the angry > > > planets due to people wrath are Mars and Rahu. > > > > > > Thus the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Ketu, Venus, Mars and Rahu are the > > > angry planets due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and > Public in > > > previous life as per their placement and significations in the birth > > > chart. > > > > > > Remedial Measures > > > After finding the angry planets due to various causes as mentioned > > > above, the remedial measures are to be done to those angry planets by > > > doing concerned pujas, by giving concerned charities, by praying > > > concerned Gods etc. For example, if Sun is the angry planet, the > > > remedial measures may be puja to Sun, charities of wheat, ruby, > praying > > > Lord Shiva etc. Details of remedial measures are not given here since > > > it is totally a different subject and readers are requested to > refer to > > > books and articles on remedial measures or consult a knowledgeable > and > > > reliable astrologer or priest of their faith and choice. > > > > > > Conclusion > > > Since the sins committed in past life are carried forward to the > > > present life, the human being suffers in the present life. One should > > > find out those sins committed in the past life and the concerned > angry > > > planets. Suitable remedial measures are to be done to those angry > > > planets to lessen the evil effects in this present life. Also > suitable > > > care is to be taken in this life not to do any further evil to Gods, > > > Brahmins, Enemies and Public by Thought, Word and Deed to avoid > > > suffering from any curse or wrath from them in the next life. Thus > > > nullifying all the bad karma in due course by completing the good > Karma > > > also, one can attain Salvation without Rebirth. The basis for this > > > article is from the Prasna Sastra of Kerala extending to Natal birth > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Dear Shri Lalitji, Namaskaar. Read and noted Your comments. I will wait for the day when in India astrology is standardised and brought to a academic level with grading, so that I can learn under Masters like You and gain some Phd.very easily. At the moment I am the most ordinary seeker in astrology. You said those who confront you are left nowhere. Sir this is false illusion and utopian thinking and a existence based on fantasy Land living.I challenge you to put me nowhere.And I fear nobody on Earth except God and wrong action which may inadvertently creep in my behaviour. What happens to those who confront me, I will not relate at the moment.That has to be experienced. But do not worry I have no intentions of hurting Brahmins whatever karma they maybe into, so please feel safe from my side.As I said I fear God. And You mentioned about some iconic image I fear I may loose. Haha. Kya baat karte ho Mishra sahab. Kaun kahan ka Maharaja hai duniya mein aur kitne din ka ? All this is temporary. Main toh aisa aadmi hoon ki kahin galti se koi image ban jaaye toh usko turant break kar deta hoon, lest one develops Ego in his self.Sir mujhe maaf kariye. remove these illusions from the mind and keep it empty for some constructive thinking. Aur yeh sab dhong public ko madad karne ka, aur spirituality ka naatak, bahut dekh chuke hain Sir, jindagi mein mujhe toh door rakhiye in sab gandagi se. Pl do not respond to my mail, or else I have to reply back, and due to this the Moderator may throw me out from here. Please spare me. Yes I fear the backlash which may come from my side which i wish to avoid. Kind regards, and wish you all the best in Your Life. Bhaskar. , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > > My Dear Bhaskar, > > It looks u r already a member of my group coz u know other members, and > reading the discussion/articles, i collect from here and there and post > in the various groups, may be, u r learning also from such postins coz > u r member there, i feel good for u. I w'd like to object ur this > sentance - " Customer " . I understand friends and people like me who join > for their interest, or for getting some remedy, who are > customers ? Who sees customer ? Discussion Groups have become > marketplace ? may be ,people like u are treating groups as market, Any > way, that's ur practice, i m no one to preech u down, > > However, I w'd like to object what u have written, i see some sort of > mischief , before u, once one astrologer Dakschhinamurty confronted me > and he is nowhere now, cleverness without truth hardly persists for > long- > > " You have tied up with astrologers on Your > Forum on the condition that > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > other condition, that they > bring in customers by spreading name of > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity " > > what type of man u r ? My dear, if somone asks, we help free of cost, i > have been helped by so many astrologers , they themselves helped me and > same way this helping attitude is going on, I will ensure it's going on. > > I have seen few people like u fears with my presence coz I speak for > doing research to dispel doubts one basic things like - retrograde > planets, planets in cusp, debilitated planet, so few people thinks they > will loose their iconic image, No, it's not like that, if u come up with > real life cases along with ur's invention or ur's observations, u will > still get recognition, dont fear me. pls. try to uunderstand ur's a > bunch of fake allegations... is no way a straighforwardness rather it > shows either u r misguided or u r misguiding people, some hiddent > interest, why u only know ? > > I will repeat, in fact ur's reply makes me repeat, however, i will work > to make a plateform, an organisation that can standradise the practices > of astrology like we do have in Software (ISO and CMM) , Read again > what i did write earlier - > > " I also don't understand what makes astrologers so much frustrated > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will just try to > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with the > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what is root > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board > ofexamination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the dearth of a > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly " > > regards, > Lalit. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > I have noted the many of your accomplishments > > enumerated by Your own self,in the mail, > > and congratulate You for the same.May You move > > ahead in Your Life day by day. > > > > There is some misunderstanding. > > My Query was genuine, I will repeat more > > clearly what was my Query. We all are are > > re-incarnations, I agree to this, > > but I was actually looking for pointers > > which could tell whether a natives chart > > showed that His last birth too was a human > > one.Because my own brother was told > > by a person who looks at Auras and predicts, > > that he was a Egyptian King in his last Birth. > > Therefore how to find out whether one had > > a human Birth in his last Birth, > > was actually my Query.Yes I also agree > > that this cannot be cross checked. > > > > I have never been spiritual in the real sense > > of the term, just spend time trying to deliver > > duties towards family, so I may not have > > anything to ask you here. But if you have done > > Karma-Kand properly in the ordained manner > > ( I suppose You are a Brahmin? (Mishra)) > > then I may ask you any query in future > > about Mantras, whenever I face a problem > > personally, mind You, and not to test your > > knowledge. > > > > The last para of your mail does not > > go with the spirituality you have portrayed > > about yourself. How can You judge whether a > > person is narrowminded,frustrated,or belittling > > someone, when this was not the case at all. > > > > You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > Forum on the condition that > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > other condition, that they > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity. > > Mr Pradeep and Chandrasekharji have been roped > > in from here, the good person Ash has been > > belittled, and thrown out . > > Mr.Gopuji did not fall in the trap. > > etc. Sir, I know all preaching and practise > > going on in todays world.the others whom You have > > given " Gurupads " I am sure would be thrown > > down the same, the day they stop abiding by > > You. > > > > let us not preach but deliver the stuff in > > astrology, or whichever field of activity one > > is in. > > > > Hope we meet again not before few > > Years from now, till I attain > > the level of your spirituality > > or vice versa. > > > > Your reply to me was just a platform to > > advertise about your accomplishments and > > the spirituality you possess and also > > Your Phone numbers for the gullible folks. > > > > I had been warned about you by a actual religious > > personality, but unfortunately I wrote to you. > > > > Any way Goodbye. > > God bless you with sadbudhi.Yes I am sorry for the > > arrogance You witnessed in me. I have a wrong habit > > of talking straight unfortunately. And again I > > beg of you to be forgiven for the same, more > > so if You are a Brahmin by Birth ( To me does not > > matter what karma You are into.) > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > To the Moderator- > > Sorry I had to reply him for what he mentioned in > > His last para. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalit Mishra litsol@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > Firstly let me clarify to you that i m not a hard core astrologer, > > I work with HCL Technologies, Noida as a Project Leader, Astrology > > journey is merely 5 months old, but i have read around 35 - 40 books > > in last 5 months, so m well aware of grey areas of astrology, i > > thought to collect research papers of renowned astrologers from here > > and there and put in one group and also discuss current affairs with > > the help of astrology. > > > > > > regarding ur query, sound's little arrogant, coz, though i myself > > have been doing researches in computer science and going to obtain my > > PHD in just 1 year from now, never spoken to anyone like this. > > > > > > That what cant be crosschecked i find somewhat useless to ask, > > everyone is a reincarnation, so how u descriminate my reincarnation > > and ur's reincarnations ? > > > > > > However, u can be answered, may be not by me, but by others, I > > have practised yoga and spirituality through mantras for more than 9 > > yrs, if u have any spiritual query u can ask me, coz, i have some > > practical experience in this area. > > > > > > my mail is : mlalit@ and mishra.lalit@ > > > cell : 09868014069. > > > > > > I also dont understand what makes astrologers so much frustrated > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will just try to > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with the > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what is root > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board of > > examination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the dearth of a > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > Appreciate your zeal in promotion of the > > > Group, with a prime member opting to move > > > out from here, but using this same > > > platform for canvassing. Another member > > > in your group who has also canvassed in > > > a unethical manner, calling other > > > Groups as not being able to > > > teach properly and commercialized. > > > One should always stand on his own > > > and not try to derive importance > > > by show of negativity in others. > > > Such prominence will give temporarary > > > standing but not permanent. I am > > > watching this fracas silently > > > since two weeks, but speaking > > > now, and very politely. The base > > > has to be very strong > > > and completely cemented with Ethics. > > > > > > The undermentioned article may be very > > > good/maynot be,but to read it, one should > > > present it in a short manner,maybe in 2 > > > parts. At times the length dissaueds one > > > from going through the whole essay, and > > > one just reads the top and bottom, and > > > moves to the next post. Take this > > > suggestion as coming from a well wisher > > > and not otherwise. > > > > > > Please ask one of the pundits in Your > > > Forum to answer this Query- > > > " How to judge whether one person > > > has re-incarnated " . > > > Here I dont mean the classical theories > > > of judging the past Birth as coming from > > > animal kingdom or going in > > > next Birth to kingdom of devatas,Manes > > > or back to humans. > > > Short and simple explanation with definite > > > clues to the answer, whether the > > > person was a man in his previous > > > Birth. > > > > > > regards. > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > In , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > Read about angry planets and other research articles written by > > scholars > > > > in the following group - > > > > > > > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > (Notes of Lecture given at Indian Council of Astrological Studies, > > > > Hyderabad, India) > > > > > > > > Introduction > > > > Reincarnation is one of the theories of Hindu Philosophy. All > beings > > > > take fresh births to experience the results of their actions > (Karma) > > > > done in their previous birth. Even if there is a little Karma left > > > > over, it has to be experienced. The Karma can be either good or > bad > > > > giving favorable or unfavorable results. There is nothing much to > > worry > > > > as long as the Karma is good for normal human beings. The human > being > > > > suffers from misfortunes in the shape of loss of wealth, loss of > > name, > > > > death of kith and kin, diseases etc., as a result of bad Karma in > his > > > > previous life. > > > > > > > > The position of planets in the birth chart would give a clue to > find > > > > out the cause of one's good or bad karma done in the past life. > When > > > > the planets are favorably placed, they indicate fruition of good > > Karma, > > > > otherwise that of evil Karma. The planets responsible for bad > > Karma in > > > > the past life would result in the person suffering from > > afflictions in > > > > the present life and these planets are called angry planets. > > > > > > > > It is believed that Atma Jnana (Self-Realization) can however > > overcome > > > > the effects of the good or bad karma. But many of the human beings > > > > cannot reach that state of Atma Jnana. So doing some remedial > > measures > > > > to these angry planets may reduce the evil effects due to the > Angry > > > > Planets. > > > > > > > > The astrologer should, carefully divine whether one's past karma > is > > > > favorable or unfavorable and in what manner it expresses itself. > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > The Angry Planets causing evil Karma are the natural benefic > planets > > > > deposited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and the natural malefic > planets > > > > deposited in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th houses, from > > Chathra > > > > rasi, Arudha, Moon and Lagna. The deposition of planets in the > > 2nd, 3rd > > > > and 11th may be taken as neutral, since nothing is specifically > > > > mentioned about them in the available literature. > > > > > > > > Chathra Rashi > > > > The Chathra rasi is the sign counted from the Veedhi rasi. Count > the > > > > number of signs from Arudha lagna to the birth lagna and then > count > > > > this number from the Veedhi rasi to get the Chathra rasi. For > > example, > > > > if Arudha lagna is Capricorn and Veedhi rasi is Aries, birth lagna > is > > > > Libra, count from Arudha lagna to birth lagna from Capricorn to > > Libra, > > > > which is 10, and then count 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of Aries > > which is > > > > Capricorn and so Chathra rasi is Capricorn. Similarly if birth > > lagna is > > > > Cancer, Arudha lagna is Aries, Veedhi rasi is Gemini, and then > > Chathra > > > > rasi is Virgo. > > > > > > > > Veedhi Rasi > > > > If Sun is in Taurus, Gemini, Cancer or Leo, the Veedhi rasi is > Aries. > > > > If Sun is in Scorpio, Capricorn or Aquarius, Veedhi rasi is > > Gemini. If > > > > Sun is in the other signs, the Veedhi rasi is Taurus. For example, > if > > > > Sun is in Leo, Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in Aquarius, Veedhi > > rasi > > > > is Gemini. If Sun is in Aries, Veedhi rasi is Taurus. > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna > > > > Arudha lagna is the point obtained by counting as many signs from > the > > > > place of the lord of the birth lagna is removed from birth lagna. > > > > Example is if the lord of the lagna is in the 4th, and then 7th > from > > > > the lagna becomes the Arudha lagna. But the exceptions are if the > > lord > > > > of the lagna is in the lagna itself then the 4th from lagna > > becomes the > > > > Arudha lagna and if the lord of the lagna is in the 7th then the > > Arudha > > > > lagna will be the 10th from the lagna. > > > > > > > > For example, if the lagna is Taurus and the lord of the lagna > > Venus is > > > > in Libra in 6th, the, count 6 sings from Libra and the Arudha > lagna > > > > will be Pisces. If the lagna is Aries and lord of lagna Mars is in > > > > Cancer, then count 7 signs from Aries and the Arudha lagna will be > > > > Libra. If the lagna is Libra and lord of lagna Venus is in Libra > > > > itself, count 4 signs from Libra and the Arudha lagna will be > > > > Capricorn. If the lagna is Cancer and the lord of the lagna Moon > > is in > > > > Capricorn, count 10 signs from Cancer and the Arudha lagna will be > > > > Aries. > > > > > > > > There may be some difference of opinions about fixing the Arudha > > lagna, > > > > as given above. The readers may use their own discretion about the > > > > rules they follow. > > > > > > > > Categories of Karma > > > > According to the disposition of the benefic and malefic planets in > > the > > > > birth chart from Chathra rasi, Arudha lagna, Moon or Birth lagna, > the > > > > cause of the evil karma is ascertained. If benefics occupy 6th, > > 8th and > > > > 12th from Chathra rasi and malefics occupy 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th > > > > 10th, the sins and consequent evil effects are due to the Gods' > wrath > > > > or fury of Gods. Here by Gods are also meant persons held in > > reverence > > > > such as parents, preceptors and elders. If the planets are found > > in the > > > > above places from Arudha lagna, the sins are the outcome of curses > > from > > > > Brahmins or Religious persons. If the planets occupy such places > from > > > > Moon, the sins are due to the incantation (mantric) of enemies. If > > the > > > > planets are found in the above-mentioned places from birth lagna, > the > > > > peoples' hatred will be the cause. > > > > > > > > Planets favorably placed, that is, benefics in 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, > > 10th > > > > and malefics in 6th, 8th, 12th, indicate merit derived from good > > deeds. > > > > > > > > The bad actions may be intentional or deliberate. They may also be > > > > either accidental or unintentional or done out of ignorance. They > may > > > > also be both combined. If the indicator planet representing angry > > > > planets is in the Moon's sign, the sins are deliberately > > committed, If > > > > the indicator planet is in the house of Sun, the sons are > > ignorantly or > > > > accidentally got. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought, Word, Deed > > > > Whether deliberate or accidental, the karma can again be divided > into > > > > three categories arising out of Thought, Word and Deed. It can > arise > > > > from mental actions such as entertaining or harboring evil thought > or > > > > wishing others evil. It can be due to verbal actions such as > > indulging > > > > in abusive and filthy language. It can also be arising from bodily > > > > actions such as causing physical injury. > > > > > > > > Suppose one deliberately insults or assaults one's parents or > elders. > > > > Here the nature of the evil Karma is due to the intentional Word > and > > > > Deed. The same is the case when the person harbors evil thoughts > and > > > > the evil Karma is due to thought. If on the other hand, one uses > > > > impolite language towards an elder through ignorance or slip of > > tongue, > > > > the nature of Karma is accidental by thought or Deed. Theaggreived > > > > party feels pain and this rebounds on the perpetrator of the > karma. > > > > > > > > If a weak malefic is the 5th, the sins may be considered as the > > outcome > > > > of mental actions. If it is in the 2nd, they are the results of > his > > > > words, cruel and unwanted. If it is in the 10th, they are the > > fruits of > > > > his bodily actions. > > > > > > > > If some planets indicate deliberate actions and some planets > indicate > > > > accidental actions, a certain delicate balancing is called for. If > > > > malefic occupy 5th, 2nd and 10th houses, evil karma would have > > emanated > > > > from all the three- Thought, Word and Deed respectively. If > malefics > > > > occupy only the 2nd and 5th while benieics occupy the 10th, the > > work is > > > > done unwillingly, complaining bitterly. If malefics occupy the 5th > > > > house while good planets are in the 2nd and 10th, the duties are > done > > > > carelessly or indifferently without proper attention and this may > > > > generally bring loss of children since 5th represents children. If > > > > malefics occupy 2nd while benefics join the 5th and 10th houses, > the > > > > evil has issued out of words, which may bring about loss of money > > since > > > > 2nd represents money. If these malefic are in debilitation or > occupy > > > > inimical places or combust, they cause intense evil. If benefics > > are in > > > > exaltation, in own or friendly houses, the good they give will > > also be > > > > great. On the contrary, if malefics are exalted and if benefics > are > > > > debilitated, their effects will be little. > > > > > > > > Examples of Angry Planets > > > > Example I > > > > Libra-lagna, Venus; Capricorn-Moon; Aquarius- Jupiter; Pisces- > > Saturn; > > > > Leo- Mercury, Mars, Sun; > > > > > > > > In the above chart, the birth lagna is Libra. Lord of lagna Venus > > is in > > > > lagna Libra itself. Therefore counting 4 signs from Libra (as per > the > > > > exception) the Arudha lagna is Capricorn counting 4 signs from > Libra. > > > > Sun is in Leo and therefore the Veedhi rasi is Aries. Aurdha lagna > to > > > > birth lagna is 10 signs and then counting 10 signs from Veedhi > > rasi of > > > > Aries , the Chathra rasi is Capricorn. > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Capricorn, the benefic Mercury is in Leo in > 8th > > > > and the malefics Rahu and Ketu are in 10th and 4th. The other > > benefics > > > > Jupiter, Venus, Moon are in 2nd, 10th and 1st and the other > malefics > > > > Saturn, mars, Sun are in 3rd, 8th from Chathra rasi of Capricorn. > > > > Therefore the Angry Planets due to Gods' wrath are Mercury, Rahu > and > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna of Capricorn, again the angry planets due to > > > > Brahmins' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. Again from Moon in > > > > Capricorn, the angry planets due to enemies' wrath are Mercury, > Rahu > > > > and Ketu. From birth lagna of Libra, Rahu and Ketu are in 7th and > 1st > > > > and hence the angry planets due to Public wrath are Rahu and Ketu > > since > > > > other benefic planets Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury are in 1st, > 4th, > > > > 5th, and 11th and the other malefic planets Saturn, Mars and Sun > > are in > > > > 6th and 11th houses. > > > > > > > > Thus Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are the Angry planets for this > horoscope > > > > due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in previous > > life, > > > > which would give sufferings in present life as per their placement > > and > > > > signification in the birth chart. > > > > > > > > Example II > > > > Cancer-Lagna; Scorpio- Rahu; Capricorn- Moon, Mars,Mercury; > Aquarius- > > > > Sun; Pisces-Jupiter, Venus; Taurus-Ketu; Gemini-Saturn. > > > > > > > > The birth lagna is Cancer. The Arudha lagna is Aries counting 10 > > signs > > > > from cancer as per exception. The Veedhi rasi is Gemini since Sun > > is in > > > > Aquarius. Arudha lagna to birth lagna is 4 signs and then counting > 4 > > > > signs from Veedhi rasi of Gemini, the Chathra rasi id Virgo. > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Virgo, the malefics Mars, Ketu and Saturn are > in > > > > 5th, 9th and 10th and therefore the angry planets due to Gods' > wrath > > > > are Mars, Saturn and Ketu. Since the benefics Moon, Jupiter and > Venus > > > > are in 5th, 7th from Chathra rasi of Virgo and the other malefics > of > > > > Rahu and Sun are 3rd and 6th. > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna, the benefics Jupiter and Venus are in the 12th > and > > > > the malefic Mars is in 10th. Hence the angry planets due to > Brahmins' > > > > wrath are Jupiter, Venus and Mars, since other benefics Moon and > > > > Mercury are in the 10th and the other malefics Saturn, Rahu and > > Sun are > > > > in 3rd, 8th and 11th from Arudha lagna of Aries. > > > > > > > > From Moon in Capricorn, themalefics Mars and Ketu are in 1st and > 5th > > > > houses. The other malefics Sun, Saturn and Rahu are in 2nd, 6th > and > > > > 11th and the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are in 1st and 3rd > from > > > > Moon. Therefore the angry planets due to the enemies' wrath are > Mars > > > > and Ketu. > > > > > > > > From birth lagna of Cancer, the malefics Rahu and Mars are in the > 5th > > > > and 7th houses. The other malefics Sun, Ketu and Saturn are in > 8th, > > > > 11th and 12th houses and the benefics Moon, Mercury, Jupiter and > > Venus > > > > are in 7th and 9th from birth lagna of Cancer. Therefore the angry > > > > planets due to people wrath are Mars and Rahu. > > > > > > > > Thus the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Ketu, Venus, Mars and Rahu are > the > > > > angry planets due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and > > Public in > > > > previous life as per their placement and significations in the > birth > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > Remedial Measures > > > > After finding the angry planets due to various causes as mentioned > > > > above, the remedial measures are to be done to those angry planets > by > > > > doing concerned pujas, by giving concerned charities, by praying > > > > concerned Gods etc. For example, if Sun is the angry planet, the > > > > remedial measures may be puja to Sun, charities of wheat, ruby, > > praying > > > > Lord Shiva etc. Details of remedial measures are not given here > since > > > > it is totally a different subject and readers are requested to > > refer to > > > > books and articles on remedial measures or consult a knowledgeable > > and > > > > reliable astrologer or priest of their faith and choice. > > > > > > > > Conclusion > > > > Since the sins committed in past life are carried forward to the > > > > present life, the human being suffers in the present life. One > should > > > > find out those sins committed in the past life and the concerned > > angry > > > > planets. Suitable remedial measures are to be done to those angry > > > > planets to lessen the evil effects in this present life. Also > > suitable > > > > care is to be taken in this life not to do any further evil to > Gods, > > > > Brahmins, Enemies and Public by Thought, Word and Deed to avoid > > > > suffering from any curse or wrath from them in the next life. Thus > > > > nullifying all the bad karma in due course by completing the good > > Karma > > > > also, one can attain Salvation without Rebirth. The basis for this > > > > article is from the Prasna Sastra of Kerala extending to Natal > birth > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, I dont know what is ur problem with me, we have no prior introduction, no prior communication, but ur behavior shows something is wrong within u. u r doing wrong actions, wrong karma only. why u did join this group - www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing and i wish to tell u man, i dont have narrow group feelings, whatever new will come to know, i will post here and that with original author's name, i m not like those, who collects information from others or from the net and then post as their own writing. If i give my genuine contact information, what's wrong in that, why u r behaving like this .. ? beware of urself, being an astrologer, u should know what bad karmas do to a person if he is a astrologer. u can learn whatever u want to learn from me,i belive in sharing what i have and asking others to know what they have, this way, astrology and any logy goes on. regards, Lalit Mishra. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > Namaskaar. > > Read and noted Your comments. > I will wait for the day when in India > astrology is standardised and brought > to a academic level with grading, so > that I can learn under Masters like You > and gain some Phd.very easily. > At the moment I am the most ordinary > seeker in astrology. > > You said those who confront you are left > nowhere. Sir this is false illusion and > utopian thinking and a existence based > on fantasy Land living.I challenge you > to put me nowhere.And I fear nobody on > Earth except God and wrong action which > may inadvertently creep in my behaviour. > What happens to those who confront me, > I will not relate at the moment.That > has to be experienced. But do not worry > I have no intentions of hurting Brahmins > whatever karma they maybe into, so please > feel safe from my side.As I said I fear > God. > > And You mentioned about some iconic image > I fear I may loose. Haha. Kya baat karte ho > Mishra sahab. Kaun kahan ka Maharaja hai > duniya mein aur kitne din ka ? All this is > temporary. Main toh aisa aadmi hoon > ki kahin galti se koi image ban jaaye toh usko > turant break kar deta hoon, lest > one develops Ego in his self.Sir mujhe maaf > kariye. remove these illusions from > the mind and keep it empty > for some constructive thinking. > > Aur yeh sab dhong public ko madad karne ka, > aur spirituality ka naatak, > bahut dekh chuke hain Sir, jindagi mein > mujhe toh door rakhiye in sab gandagi se. > > Pl do not respond to my mail, or else I have > to reply back, and due to this the Moderator > may throw me out from here. > > Please spare me. Yes I fear the backlash which > may come from my side which i wish to avoid. > > Kind regards, and wish you all the > best in Your Life. > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > My Dear Bhaskar, > > > > It looks u r already a member of my group coz u know other members, and > > reading the discussion/articles, i collect from here and there and post > > in the various groups, may be, u r learning also from such postins coz > > u r member there, i feel good for u. I w'd like to object ur this > > sentance - " Customer " . I understand friends and people like me who join > > for their interest, or for getting some remedy, who are > > customers ? Who sees customer ? Discussion Groups have become > > marketplace ? may be ,people like u are treating groups as market, Any > > way, that's ur practice, i m no one to preech u down, > > > > However, I w'd like to object what u have written, i see some sort of > > mischief , before u, once one astrologer Dakschhinamurty confronted me > > and he is nowhere now, cleverness without truth hardly persists for > > long- > > > > " You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > Forum on the condition that > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > other condition, that they > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity " > > > > what type of man u r ? My dear, if somone asks, we help free of cost, i > > have been helped by so many astrologers , they themselves helped me and > > same way this helping attitude is going on, I will ensure it's going on. > > > > I have seen few people like u fears with my presence coz I speak for > > doing research to dispel doubts one basic things like - retrograde > > planets, planets in cusp, debilitated planet, so few people thinks they > > will loose their iconic image, No, it's not like that, if u come up with > > real life cases along with ur's invention or ur's observations, u will > > still get recognition, dont fear me. pls. try to uunderstand ur's a > > bunch of fake allegations... is no way a straighforwardness rather it > > shows either u r misguided or u r misguiding people, some hiddent > > interest, why u only know ? > > > > I will repeat, in fact ur's reply makes me repeat, however, i will work > > to make a plateform, an organisation that can standradise the practices > > of astrology like we do have in Software (ISO and CMM) , Read again > > what i did write earlier - > > > > " I also don't understand what makes astrologers so much frustrated > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will just try to > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with the > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what is root > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board > > ofexamination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the dearth of a > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly " > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > I have noted the many of your accomplishments > > > enumerated by Your own self,in the mail, > > > and congratulate You for the same.May You move > > > ahead in Your Life day by day. > > > > > > There is some misunderstanding. > > > My Query was genuine, I will repeat more > > > clearly what was my Query. We all are are > > > re-incarnations, I agree to this, > > > but I was actually looking for pointers > > > which could tell whether a natives chart > > > showed that His last birth too was a human > > > one.Because my own brother was told > > > by a person who looks at Auras and predicts, > > > that he was a Egyptian King in his last Birth. > > > Therefore how to find out whether one had > > > a human Birth in his last Birth, > > > was actually my Query.Yes I also agree > > > that this cannot be cross checked. > > > > > > I have never been spiritual in the real sense > > > of the term, just spend time trying to deliver > > > duties towards family, so I may not have > > > anything to ask you here. But if you have done > > > Karma-Kand properly in the ordained manner > > > ( I suppose You are a Brahmin? (Mishra)) > > > then I may ask you any query in future > > > about Mantras, whenever I face a problem > > > personally, mind You, and not to test your > > > knowledge. > > > > > > The last para of your mail does not > > > go with the spirituality you have portrayed > > > about yourself. How can You judge whether a > > > person is narrowminded,frustrated,or belittling > > > someone, when this was not the case at all. > > > > > > You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > > Forum on the condition that > > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > > other condition, that they > > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity. > > > Mr Pradeep and Chandrasekharji have been roped > > > in from here, the good person Ash has been > > > belittled, and thrown out . > > > Mr.Gopuji did not fall in the trap. > > > etc. Sir, I know all preaching and practise > > > going on in todays world.the others whom You have > > > given " Gurupads " I am sure would be thrown > > > down the same, the day they stop abiding by > > > You. > > > > > > let us not preach but deliver the stuff in > > > astrology, or whichever field of activity one > > > is in. > > > > > > Hope we meet again not before few > > > Years from now, till I attain > > > the level of your spirituality > > > or vice versa. > > > > > > Your reply to me was just a platform to > > > advertise about your accomplishments and > > > the spirituality you possess and also > > > Your Phone numbers for the gullible folks. > > > > > > I had been warned about you by a actual religious > > > personality, but unfortunately I wrote to you. > > > > > > Any way Goodbye. > > > God bless you with sadbudhi.Yes I am sorry for the > > > arrogance You witnessed in me. I have a wrong habit > > > of talking straight unfortunately. And again I > > > beg of you to be forgiven for the same, more > > > so if You are a Brahmin by Birth ( To me does not > > > matter what karma You are into.) > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > To the Moderator- > > > Sorry I had to reply him for what he mentioned in > > > His last para. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalit Mishra litsol@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > Firstly let me clarify to you that i m not a hard core astrologer, > > > I work with HCL Technologies, Noida as a Project Leader, Astrology > > > journey is merely 5 months old, but i have read around 35 - 40 books > > > in last 5 months, so m well aware of grey areas of astrology, i > > > thought to collect research papers of renowned astrologers from here > > > and there and put in one group and also discuss current affairs with > > > the help of astrology. > > > > > > > > regarding ur query, sound's little arrogant, coz, though i myself > > > have been doing researches in computer science and going to obtain my > > > PHD in just 1 year from now, never spoken to anyone like this. > > > > > > > > That what cant be crosschecked i find somewhat useless to ask, > > > everyone is a reincarnation, so how u descriminate my reincarnation > > > and ur's reincarnations ? > > > > > > > > However, u can be answered, may be not by me, but by others, I > > > have practised yoga and spirituality through mantras for more than 9 > > > yrs, if u have any spiritual query u can ask me, coz, i have some > > > practical experience in this area. > > > > > > > > my mail is : mlalit@ and mishra.lalit@ > > > > cell : 09868014069. > > > > > > > > I also dont understand what makes astrologers so much frustrated > > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will just try to > > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with the > > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what is root > > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board of > > > examination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the dearth of a > > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > Appreciate your zeal in promotion of the > > > > Group, with a prime member opting to move > > > > out from here, but using this same > > > > platform for canvassing. Another member > > > > in your group who has also canvassed in > > > > a unethical manner, calling other > > > > Groups as not being able to > > > > teach properly and commercialized. > > > > One should always stand on his own > > > > and not try to derive importance > > > > by show of negativity in others. > > > > Such prominence will give temporarary > > > > standing but not permanent. I am > > > > watching this fracas silently > > > > since two weeks, but speaking > > > > now, and very politely. The base > > > > has to be very strong > > > > and completely cemented with Ethics. > > > > > > > > The undermentioned article may be very > > > > good/maynot be,but to read it, one should > > > > present it in a short manner,maybe in 2 > > > > parts. At times the length dissaueds one > > > > from going through the whole essay, and > > > > one just reads the top and bottom, and > > > > moves to the next post. Take this > > > > suggestion as coming from a well wisher > > > > and not otherwise. > > > > > > > > Please ask one of the pundits in Your > > > > Forum to answer this Query- > > > > " How to judge whether one person > > > > has re-incarnated " . > > > > Here I dont mean the classical theories > > > > of judging the past Birth as coming from > > > > animal kingdom or going in > > > > next Birth to kingdom of devatas,Manes > > > > or back to humans. > > > > Short and simple explanation with definite > > > > clues to the answer, whether the > > > > person was a man in his previous > > > > Birth. > > > > > > > > regards. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > In , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > Read about angry planets and other research articles written by > > > scholars > > > > > in the following group - > > > > > > > > > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > > (Notes of Lecture given at Indian Council of Astrological Studies, > > > > > Hyderabad, India) > > > > > > > > > > Introduction > > > > > Reincarnation is one of the theories of Hindu Philosophy. All > > beings > > > > > take fresh births to experience the results of their actions > > (Karma) > > > > > done in their previous birth. Even if there is a little Karma left > > > > > over, it has to be experienced. The Karma can be either good or > > bad > > > > > giving favorable or unfavorable results. There is nothing much to > > > worry > > > > > as long as the Karma is good for normal human beings. The human > > being > > > > > suffers from misfortunes in the shape of loss of wealth, loss of > > > name, > > > > > death of kith and kin, diseases etc., as a result of bad Karma in > > his > > > > > previous life. > > > > > > > > > > The position of planets in the birth chart would give a clue to > > find > > > > > out the cause of one's good or bad karma done in the past life. > > When > > > > > the planets are favorably placed, they indicate fruition of good > > > Karma, > > > > > otherwise that of evil Karma. The planets responsible for bad > > > Karma in > > > > > the past life would result in the person suffering from > > > afflictions in > > > > > the present life and these planets are called angry planets. > > > > > > > > > > It is believed that Atma Jnana (Self-Realization) can however > > > overcome > > > > > the effects of the good or bad karma. But many of the human beings > > > > > cannot reach that state of Atma Jnana. So doing some remedial > > > measures > > > > > to these angry planets may reduce the evil effects due to the > > Angry > > > > > Planets. > > > > > > > > > > The astrologer should, carefully divine whether one's past karma > > is > > > > > favorable or unfavorable and in what manner it expresses itself. > > > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > > The Angry Planets causing evil Karma are the natural benefic > > planets > > > > > deposited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and the natural malefic > > planets > > > > > deposited in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th houses, from > > > Chathra > > > > > rasi, Arudha, Moon and Lagna. The deposition of planets in the > > > 2nd, 3rd > > > > > and 11th may be taken as neutral, since nothing is specifically > > > > > mentioned about them in the available literature. > > > > > > > > > > Chathra Rashi > > > > > The Chathra rasi is the sign counted from the Veedhi rasi. Count > > the > > > > > number of signs from Arudha lagna to the birth lagna and then > > count > > > > > this number from the Veedhi rasi to get the Chathra rasi. For > > > example, > > > > > if Arudha lagna is Capricorn and Veedhi rasi is Aries, birth lagna > > is > > > > > Libra, count from Arudha lagna to birth lagna from Capricorn to > > > Libra, > > > > > which is 10, and then count 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of Aries > > > which is > > > > > Capricorn and so Chathra rasi is Capricorn. Similarly if birth > > > lagna is > > > > > Cancer, Arudha lagna is Aries, Veedhi rasi is Gemini, and then > > > Chathra > > > > > rasi is Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > Veedhi Rasi > > > > > If Sun is in Taurus, Gemini, Cancer or Leo, the Veedhi rasi is > > Aries. > > > > > If Sun is in Scorpio, Capricorn or Aquarius, Veedhi rasi is > > > Gemini. If > > > > > Sun is in the other signs, the Veedhi rasi is Taurus. For example, > > if > > > > > Sun is in Leo, Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in Aquarius, Veedhi > > > rasi > > > > > is Gemini. If Sun is in Aries, Veedhi rasi is Taurus. > > > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna > > > > > Arudha lagna is the point obtained by counting as many signs from > > the > > > > > place of the lord of the birth lagna is removed from birth lagna. > > > > > Example is if the lord of the lagna is in the 4th, and then 7th > > from > > > > > the lagna becomes the Arudha lagna. But the exceptions are if the > > > lord > > > > > of the lagna is in the lagna itself then the 4th from lagna > > > becomes the > > > > > Arudha lagna and if the lord of the lagna is in the 7th then the > > > Arudha > > > > > lagna will be the 10th from the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > For example, if the lagna is Taurus and the lord of the lagna > > > Venus is > > > > > in Libra in 6th, the, count 6 sings from Libra and the Arudha > > lagna > > > > > will be Pisces. If the lagna is Aries and lord of lagna Mars is in > > > > > Cancer, then count 7 signs from Aries and the Arudha lagna will be > > > > > Libra. If the lagna is Libra and lord of lagna Venus is in Libra > > > > > itself, count 4 signs from Libra and the Arudha lagna will be > > > > > Capricorn. If the lagna is Cancer and the lord of the lagna Moon > > > is in > > > > > Capricorn, count 10 signs from Cancer and the Arudha lagna will be > > > > > Aries. > > > > > > > > > > There may be some difference of opinions about fixing the Arudha > > > lagna, > > > > > as given above. The readers may use their own discretion about the > > > > > rules they follow. > > > > > > > > > > Categories of Karma > > > > > According to the disposition of the benefic and malefic planets in > > > the > > > > > birth chart from Chathra rasi, Arudha lagna, Moon or Birth lagna, > > the > > > > > cause of the evil karma is ascertained. If benefics occupy 6th, > > > 8th and > > > > > 12th from Chathra rasi and malefics occupy 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th > > > > > 10th, the sins and consequent evil effects are due to the Gods' > > wrath > > > > > or fury of Gods. Here by Gods are also meant persons held in > > > reverence > > > > > such as parents, preceptors and elders. If the planets are found > > > in the > > > > > above places from Arudha lagna, the sins are the outcome of curses > > > from > > > > > Brahmins or Religious persons. If the planets occupy such places > > from > > > > > Moon, the sins are due to the incantation (mantric) of enemies. If > > > the > > > > > planets are found in the above-mentioned places from birth lagna, > > the > > > > > peoples' hatred will be the cause. > > > > > > > > > > Planets favorably placed, that is, benefics in 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, > > > 10th > > > > > and malefics in 6th, 8th, 12th, indicate merit derived from good > > > deeds. > > > > > > > > > > The bad actions may be intentional or deliberate. They may also be > > > > > either accidental or unintentional or done out of ignorance. They > > may > > > > > also be both combined. If the indicator planet representing angry > > > > > planets is in the Moon's sign, the sins are deliberately > > > committed, If > > > > > the indicator planet is in the house of Sun, the sons are > > > ignorantly or > > > > > accidentally got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought, Word, Deed > > > > > Whether deliberate or accidental, the karma can again be divided > > into > > > > > three categories arising out of Thought, Word and Deed. It can > > arise > > > > > from mental actions such as entertaining or harboring evil thought > > or > > > > > wishing others evil. It can be due to verbal actions such as > > > indulging > > > > > in abusive and filthy language. It can also be arising from bodily > > > > > actions such as causing physical injury. > > > > > > > > > > Suppose one deliberately insults or assaults one's parents or > > elders. > > > > > Here the nature of the evil Karma is due to the intentional Word > > and > > > > > Deed. The same is the case when the person harbors evil thoughts > > and > > > > > the evil Karma is due to thought. If on the other hand, one uses > > > > > impolite language towards an elder through ignorance or slip of > > > tongue, > > > > > the nature of Karma is accidental by thought or Deed. Theaggreived > > > > > party feels pain and this rebounds on the perpetrator of the > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > If a weak malefic is the 5th, the sins may be considered as the > > > outcome > > > > > of mental actions. If it is in the 2nd, they are the results of > > his > > > > > words, cruel and unwanted. If it is in the 10th, they are the > > > fruits of > > > > > his bodily actions. > > > > > > > > > > If some planets indicate deliberate actions and some planets > > indicate > > > > > accidental actions, a certain delicate balancing is called for. If > > > > > malefic occupy 5th, 2nd and 10th houses, evil karma would have > > > emanated > > > > > from all the three- Thought, Word and Deed respectively. If > > malefics > > > > > occupy only the 2nd and 5th while benieics occupy the 10th, the > > > work is > > > > > done unwillingly, complaining bitterly. If malefics occupy the 5th > > > > > house while good planets are in the 2nd and 10th, the duties are > > done > > > > > carelessly or indifferently without proper attention and this may > > > > > generally bring loss of children since 5th represents children. If > > > > > malefics occupy 2nd while benefics join the 5th and 10th houses, > > the > > > > > evil has issued out of words, which may bring about loss of money > > > since > > > > > 2nd represents money. If these malefic are in debilitation or > > occupy > > > > > inimical places or combust, they cause intense evil. If benefics > > > are in > > > > > exaltation, in own or friendly houses, the good they give will > > > also be > > > > > great. On the contrary, if malefics are exalted and if benefics > > are > > > > > debilitated, their effects will be little. > > > > > > > > > > Examples of Angry Planets > > > > > Example I > > > > > Libra-lagna, Venus; Capricorn-Moon; Aquarius- Jupiter; Pisces- > > > Saturn; > > > > > Leo- Mercury, Mars, Sun; > > > > > > > > > > In the above chart, the birth lagna is Libra. Lord of lagna Venus > > > is in > > > > > lagna Libra itself. Therefore counting 4 signs from Libra (as per > > the > > > > > exception) the Arudha lagna is Capricorn counting 4 signs from > > Libra. > > > > > Sun is in Leo and therefore the Veedhi rasi is Aries. Aurdha lagna > > to > > > > > birth lagna is 10 signs and then counting 10 signs from Veedhi > > > rasi of > > > > > Aries , the Chathra rasi is Capricorn. > > > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Capricorn, the benefic Mercury is in Leo in > > 8th > > > > > and the malefics Rahu and Ketu are in 10th and 4th. The other > > > benefics > > > > > Jupiter, Venus, Moon are in 2nd, 10th and 1st and the other > > malefics > > > > > Saturn, mars, Sun are in 3rd, 8th from Chathra rasi of Capricorn. > > > > > Therefore the Angry Planets due to Gods' wrath are Mercury, Rahu > > and > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna of Capricorn, again the angry planets due to > > > > > Brahmins' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. Again from Moon in > > > > > Capricorn, the angry planets due to enemies' wrath are Mercury, > > Rahu > > > > > and Ketu. From birth lagna of Libra, Rahu and Ketu are in 7th and > > 1st > > > > > and hence the angry planets due to Public wrath are Rahu and Ketu > > > since > > > > > other benefic planets Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury are in 1st, > > 4th, > > > > > 5th, and 11th and the other malefic planets Saturn, Mars and Sun > > > are in > > > > > 6th and 11th houses. > > > > > > > > > > Thus Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are the Angry planets for this > > horoscope > > > > > due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in previous > > > life, > > > > > which would give sufferings in present life as per their placement > > > and > > > > > signification in the birth chart. > > > > > > > > > > Example II > > > > > Cancer-Lagna; Scorpio- Rahu; Capricorn- Moon, Mars,Mercury; > > Aquarius- > > > > > Sun; Pisces-Jupiter, Venus; Taurus-Ketu; Gemini-Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > The birth lagna is Cancer. The Arudha lagna is Aries counting 10 > > > signs > > > > > from cancer as per exception. The Veedhi rasi is Gemini since Sun > > > is in > > > > > Aquarius. Arudha lagna to birth lagna is 4 signs and then counting > > 4 > > > > > signs from Veedhi rasi of Gemini, the Chathra rasi id Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Virgo, the malefics Mars, Ketu and Saturn are > > in > > > > > 5th, 9th and 10th and therefore the angry planets due to Gods' > > wrath > > > > > are Mars, Saturn and Ketu. Since the benefics Moon, Jupiter and > > Venus > > > > > are in 5th, 7th from Chathra rasi of Virgo and the other malefics > > of > > > > > Rahu and Sun are 3rd and 6th. > > > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna, the benefics Jupiter and Venus are in the 12th > > and > > > > > the malefic Mars is in 10th. Hence the angry planets due to > > Brahmins' > > > > > wrath are Jupiter, Venus and Mars, since other benefics Moon and > > > > > Mercury are in the 10th and the other malefics Saturn, Rahu and > > > Sun are > > > > > in 3rd, 8th and 11th from Arudha lagna of Aries. > > > > > > > > > > From Moon in Capricorn, themalefics Mars and Ketu are in 1st and > > 5th > > > > > houses. The other malefics Sun, Saturn and Rahu are in 2nd, 6th > > and > > > > > 11th and the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are in 1st and 3rd > > from > > > > > Moon. Therefore the angry planets due to the enemies' wrath are > > Mars > > > > > and Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > From birth lagna of Cancer, the malefics Rahu and Mars are in the > > 5th > > > > > and 7th houses. The other malefics Sun, Ketu and Saturn are in > > 8th, > > > > > 11th and 12th houses and the benefics Moon, Mercury, Jupiter and > > > Venus > > > > > are in 7th and 9th from birth lagna of Cancer. Therefore the angry > > > > > planets due to people wrath are Mars and Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > Thus the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Ketu, Venus, Mars and Rahu are > > the > > > > > angry planets due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and > > > Public in > > > > > previous life as per their placement and significations in the > > birth > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > Remedial Measures > > > > > After finding the angry planets due to various causes as mentioned > > > > > above, the remedial measures are to be done to those angry planets > > by > > > > > doing concerned pujas, by giving concerned charities, by praying > > > > > concerned Gods etc. For example, if Sun is the angry planet, the > > > > > remedial measures may be puja to Sun, charities of wheat, ruby, > > > praying > > > > > Lord Shiva etc. Details of remedial measures are not given here > > since > > > > > it is totally a different subject and readers are requested to > > > refer to > > > > > books and articles on remedial measures or consult a knowledgeable > > > and > > > > > reliable astrologer or priest of their faith and choice. > > > > > > > > > > Conclusion > > > > > Since the sins committed in past life are carried forward to the > > > > > present life, the human being suffers in the present life. One > > should > > > > > find out those sins committed in the past life and the concerned > > > angry > > > > > planets. Suitable remedial measures are to be done to those angry > > > > > planets to lessen the evil effects in this present life. Also > > > suitable > > > > > care is to be taken in this life not to do any further evil to > > Gods, > > > > > Brahmins, Enemies and Public by Thought, Word and Deed to avoid > > > > > suffering from any curse or wrath from them in the next life. Thus > > > > > nullifying all the bad karma in due course by completing the good > > > Karma > > > > > also, one can attain Salvation without Rebirth. The basis for this > > > > > article is from the Prasna Sastra of Kerala extending to Natal > > birth > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Dear Shri Lalitji, Charan sparsh. Noted the contents, and will make you my teacher, the time I become a worthy student. I have really less time to join any more groups or learn from them or write there. regards, Bhaskar. , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > I dont know what is ur problem with me, we have no prior > introduction, no prior communication, but ur behavior shows something > is wrong within u. u r doing wrong actions, wrong karma only. why u > did join this group - > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > and i wish to tell u man, i dont have narrow group feelings, whatever > new will come to know, i will post here and that with original > author's name, i m not like those, who collects information from > others or from the net and then post as their own writing. > > If i give my genuine contact information, what's wrong in that, why u > r behaving like this .. ? > > beware of urself, being an astrologer, u should know what bad karmas > do to a person if he is a astrologer. > > u can learn whatever u want to learn from me,i belive in sharing what > i have and asking others to know what they have, this way, astrology > and any logy goes on. > > regards, > Lalit Mishra. > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > Namaskaar. > > > > Read and noted Your comments. > > I will wait for the day when in India > > astrology is standardised and brought > > to a academic level with grading, so > > that I can learn under Masters like You > > and gain some Phd.very easily. > > At the moment I am the most ordinary > > seeker in astrology. > > > > You said those who confront you are left > > nowhere. Sir this is false illusion and > > utopian thinking and a existence based > > on fantasy Land living.I challenge you > > to put me nowhere.And I fear nobody on > > Earth except God and wrong action which > > may inadvertently creep in my behaviour. > > What happens to those who confront me, > > I will not relate at the moment.That > > has to be experienced. But do not worry > > I have no intentions of hurting Brahmins > > whatever karma they maybe into, so please > > feel safe from my side.As I said I fear > > God. > > > > And You mentioned about some iconic image > > I fear I may loose. Haha. Kya baat karte ho > > Mishra sahab. Kaun kahan ka Maharaja hai > > duniya mein aur kitne din ka ? All this is > > temporary. Main toh aisa aadmi hoon > > ki kahin galti se koi image ban jaaye toh usko > > turant break kar deta hoon, lest > > one develops Ego in his self.Sir mujhe maaf > > kariye. remove these illusions from > > the mind and keep it empty > > for some constructive thinking. > > > > Aur yeh sab dhong public ko madad karne ka, > > aur spirituality ka naatak, > > bahut dekh chuke hain Sir, jindagi mein > > mujhe toh door rakhiye in sab gandagi se. > > > > Pl do not respond to my mail, or else I have > > to reply back, and due to this the Moderator > > may throw me out from here. > > > > Please spare me. Yes I fear the backlash which > > may come from my side which i wish to avoid. > > > > Kind regards, and wish you all the > > best in Your Life. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > My Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > It looks u r already a member of my group coz u know other > members, and > > > reading the discussion/articles, i collect from here and there > and post > > > in the various groups, may be, u r learning also from such > postins coz > > > u r member there, i feel good for u. I w'd like to object ur this > > > sentance - " Customer " . I understand friends and people like me > who join > > > for their interest, or for getting some remedy, > who are > > > customers ? Who sees customer ? Discussion Groups have > become > > > marketplace ? may be ,people like u are treating groups as > market, Any > > > way, that's ur practice, i m no one to preech u down, > > > > > > However, I w'd like to object what u have written, i see some > sort of > > > mischief , before u, once one astrologer Dakschhinamurty > confronted me > > > and he is nowhere now, cleverness without truth hardly persists > for > > > long- > > > > > > " You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > > Forum on the condition that > > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > > other condition, that they > > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity " > > > > > > what type of man u r ? My dear, if somone asks, we help free of > cost, i > > > have been helped by so many astrologers , they themselves helped > me and > > > same way this helping attitude is going on, I will ensure it's > going on. > > > > > > I have seen few people like u fears with my presence coz I speak > for > > > doing research to dispel doubts one basic things like - retrograde > > > planets, planets in cusp, debilitated planet, so few people > thinks they > > > will loose their iconic image, No, it's not like that, if u come > up with > > > real life cases along with ur's invention or ur's observations, u > will > > > still get recognition, dont fear me. pls. try to uunderstand > ur's a > > > bunch of fake allegations... is no way a straighforwardness > rather it > > > shows either u r misguided or u r misguiding people, some hiddent > > > interest, why u only know ? > > > > > > I will repeat, in fact ur's reply makes me repeat, however, i > will work > > > to make a plateform, an organisation that can standradise the > practices > > > of astrology like we do have in Software (ISO and CMM) , Read > again > > > what i did write earlier - > > > > > > " I also don't understand what makes astrologers so much frustrated > > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will just > try to > > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with the > > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what is > root > > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board > > > ofexamination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the dearth > of a > > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly " > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > I have noted the many of your accomplishments > > > > enumerated by Your own self,in the mail, > > > > and congratulate You for the same.May You move > > > > ahead in Your Life day by day. > > > > > > > > There is some misunderstanding. > > > > My Query was genuine, I will repeat more > > > > clearly what was my Query. We all are are > > > > re-incarnations, I agree to this, > > > > but I was actually looking for pointers > > > > which could tell whether a natives chart > > > > showed that His last birth too was a human > > > > one.Because my own brother was told > > > > by a person who looks at Auras and predicts, > > > > that he was a Egyptian King in his last Birth. > > > > Therefore how to find out whether one had > > > > a human Birth in his last Birth, > > > > was actually my Query.Yes I also agree > > > > that this cannot be cross checked. > > > > > > > > I have never been spiritual in the real sense > > > > of the term, just spend time trying to deliver > > > > duties towards family, so I may not have > > > > anything to ask you here. But if you have done > > > > Karma-Kand properly in the ordained manner > > > > ( I suppose You are a Brahmin? (Mishra)) > > > > then I may ask you any query in future > > > > about Mantras, whenever I face a problem > > > > personally, mind You, and not to test your > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > The last para of your mail does not > > > > go with the spirituality you have portrayed > > > > about yourself. How can You judge whether a > > > > person is narrowminded,frustrated,or belittling > > > > someone, when this was not the case at all. > > > > > > > > You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > > > Forum on the condition that > > > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > > > other condition, that they > > > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity. > > > > Mr Pradeep and Chandrasekharji have been roped > > > > in from here, the good person Ash has been > > > > belittled, and thrown out . > > > > Mr.Gopuji did not fall in the trap. > > > > etc. Sir, I know all preaching and practise > > > > going on in todays world.the others whom You have > > > > given " Gurupads " I am sure would be thrown > > > > down the same, the day they stop abiding by > > > > You. > > > > > > > > let us not preach but deliver the stuff in > > > > astrology, or whichever field of activity one > > > > is in. > > > > > > > > Hope we meet again not before few > > > > Years from now, till I attain > > > > the level of your spirituality > > > > or vice versa. > > > > > > > > Your reply to me was just a platform to > > > > advertise about your accomplishments and > > > > the spirituality you possess and also > > > > Your Phone numbers for the gullible folks. > > > > > > > > I had been warned about you by a actual religious > > > > personality, but unfortunately I wrote to you. > > > > > > > > Any way Goodbye. > > > > God bless you with sadbudhi.Yes I am sorry for the > > > > arrogance You witnessed in me. I have a wrong habit > > > > of talking straight unfortunately. And again I > > > > beg of you to be forgiven for the same, more > > > > so if You are a Brahmin by Birth ( To me does not > > > > matter what karma You are into.) > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > To the Moderator- > > > > Sorry I had to reply him for what he mentioned in > > > > His last para. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalit Mishra litsol@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > Firstly let me clarify to you that i m not a hard core > astrologer, > > > > I work with HCL Technologies, Noida as a Project Leader, > Astrology > > > > journey is merely 5 months old, but i have read around 35 - 40 > books > > > > in last 5 months, so m well aware of grey areas of astrology, i > > > > thought to collect research papers of renowned astrologers from > here > > > > and there and put in one group and also discuss current affairs > with > > > > the help of astrology. > > > > > > > > > > regarding ur query, sound's little arrogant, coz, though i > myself > > > > have been doing researches in computer science and going to > obtain my > > > > PHD in just 1 year from now, never spoken to anyone like this. > > > > > > > > > > That what cant be crosschecked i find somewhat useless to ask, > > > > everyone is a reincarnation, so how u descriminate my > reincarnation > > > > and ur's reincarnations ? > > > > > > > > > > However, u can be answered, may be not by me, but by others, I > > > > have practised yoga and spirituality through mantras for more > than 9 > > > > yrs, if u have any spiritual query u can ask me, coz, i have > some > > > > practical experience in this area. > > > > > > > > > > my mail is : mlalit@ and mishra.lalit@ > > > > > cell : 09868014069. > > > > > > > > > > I also dont understand what makes astrologers so much > frustrated > > > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will just > try to > > > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with the > > > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what is > root > > > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board > of > > > > examination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the dearth > of a > > > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > Appreciate your zeal in promotion of the > > > > > Group, with a prime member opting to move > > > > > out from here, but using this same > > > > > platform for canvassing. Another member > > > > > in your group who has also canvassed in > > > > > a unethical manner, calling other > > > > > Groups as not being able to > > > > > teach properly and commercialized. > > > > > One should always stand on his own > > > > > and not try to derive importance > > > > > by show of negativity in others. > > > > > Such prominence will give temporarary > > > > > standing but not permanent. I am > > > > > watching this fracas silently > > > > > since two weeks, but speaking > > > > > now, and very politely. The base > > > > > has to be very strong > > > > > and completely cemented with Ethics. > > > > > > > > > > The undermentioned article may be very > > > > > good/maynot be,but to read it, one should > > > > > present it in a short manner,maybe in 2 > > > > > parts. At times the length dissaueds one > > > > > from going through the whole essay, and > > > > > one just reads the top and bottom, and > > > > > moves to the next post. Take this > > > > > suggestion as coming from a well wisher > > > > > and not otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > Please ask one of the pundits in Your > > > > > Forum to answer this Query- > > > > > " How to judge whether one person > > > > > has re-incarnated " . > > > > > Here I dont mean the classical theories > > > > > of judging the past Birth as coming from > > > > > animal kingdom or going in > > > > > next Birth to kingdom of devatas,Manes > > > > > or back to humans. > > > > > Short and simple explanation with definite > > > > > clues to the answer, whether the > > > > > person was a man in his previous > > > > > Birth. > > > > > > > > > > regards. > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > In , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > Read about angry planets and other research articles > written by > > > > scholars > > > > > > in the following group - > > > > > > > > > > > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > > > (Notes of Lecture given at Indian Council of Astrological > Studies, > > > > > > Hyderabad, India) > > > > > > > > > > > > Introduction > > > > > > Reincarnation is one of the theories of Hindu Philosophy. > All > > > beings > > > > > > take fresh births to experience the results of their actions > > > (Karma) > > > > > > done in their previous birth. Even if there is a little > Karma left > > > > > > over, it has to be experienced. The Karma can be either > good or > > > bad > > > > > > giving favorable or unfavorable results. There is nothing > much to > > > > worry > > > > > > as long as the Karma is good for normal human beings. The > human > > > being > > > > > > suffers from misfortunes in the shape of loss of wealth, > loss of > > > > name, > > > > > > death of kith and kin, diseases etc., as a result of bad > Karma in > > > his > > > > > > previous life. > > > > > > > > > > > > The position of planets in the birth chart would give a > clue to > > > find > > > > > > out the cause of one's good or bad karma done in the past > life. > > > When > > > > > > the planets are favorably placed, they indicate fruition of > good > > > > Karma, > > > > > > otherwise that of evil Karma. The planets responsible for > bad > > > > Karma in > > > > > > the past life would result in the person suffering from > > > > afflictions in > > > > > > the present life and these planets are called angry planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is believed that Atma Jnana (Self-Realization) can > however > > > > overcome > > > > > > the effects of the good or bad karma. But many of the human > beings > > > > > > cannot reach that state of Atma Jnana. So doing some > remedial > > > > measures > > > > > > to these angry planets may reduce the evil effects due to > the > > > Angry > > > > > > Planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > The astrologer should, carefully divine whether one's past > karma > > > is > > > > > > favorable or unfavorable and in what manner it expresses > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > > > The Angry Planets causing evil Karma are the natural benefic > > > planets > > > > > > deposited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and the natural > malefic > > > planets > > > > > > deposited in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th houses, > from > > > > Chathra > > > > > > rasi, Arudha, Moon and Lagna. The deposition of planets in > the > > > > 2nd, 3rd > > > > > > and 11th may be taken as neutral, since nothing is > specifically > > > > > > mentioned about them in the available literature. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chathra Rashi > > > > > > The Chathra rasi is the sign counted from the Veedhi rasi. > Count > > > the > > > > > > number of signs from Arudha lagna to the birth lagna and > then > > > count > > > > > > this number from the Veedhi rasi to get the Chathra rasi. > For > > > > example, > > > > > > if Arudha lagna is Capricorn and Veedhi rasi is Aries, > birth lagna > > > is > > > > > > Libra, count from Arudha lagna to birth lagna from > Capricorn to > > > > Libra, > > > > > > which is 10, and then count 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of > Aries > > > > which is > > > > > > Capricorn and so Chathra rasi is Capricorn. Similarly if > birth > > > > lagna is > > > > > > Cancer, Arudha lagna is Aries, Veedhi rasi is Gemini, and > then > > > > Chathra > > > > > > rasi is Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > > > Veedhi Rasi > > > > > > If Sun is in Taurus, Gemini, Cancer or Leo, the Veedhi rasi > is > > > Aries. > > > > > > If Sun is in Scorpio, Capricorn or Aquarius, Veedhi rasi is > > > > Gemini. If > > > > > > Sun is in the other signs, the Veedhi rasi is Taurus. For > example, > > > if > > > > > > Sun is in Leo, Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in Aquarius, > Veedhi > > > > rasi > > > > > > is Gemini. If Sun is in Aries, Veedhi rasi is Taurus. > > > > > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna > > > > > > Arudha lagna is the point obtained by counting as many > signs from > > > the > > > > > > place of the lord of the birth lagna is removed from birth > lagna. > > > > > > Example is if the lord of the lagna is in the 4th, and then > 7th > > > from > > > > > > the lagna becomes the Arudha lagna. But the exceptions are > if the > > > > lord > > > > > > of the lagna is in the lagna itself then the 4th from lagna > > > > becomes the > > > > > > Arudha lagna and if the lord of the lagna is in the 7th > then the > > > > Arudha > > > > > > lagna will be the 10th from the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, if the lagna is Taurus and the lord of the > lagna > > > > Venus is > > > > > > in Libra in 6th, the, count 6 sings from Libra and the > Arudha > > > lagna > > > > > > will be Pisces. If the lagna is Aries and lord of lagna > Mars is in > > > > > > Cancer, then count 7 signs from Aries and the Arudha lagna > will be > > > > > > Libra. If the lagna is Libra and lord of lagna Venus is in > Libra > > > > > > itself, count 4 signs from Libra and the Arudha lagna will > be > > > > > > Capricorn. If the lagna is Cancer and the lord of the lagna > Moon > > > > is in > > > > > > Capricorn, count 10 signs from Cancer and the Arudha lagna > will be > > > > > > Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > There may be some difference of opinions about fixing the > Arudha > > > > lagna, > > > > > > as given above. The readers may use their own discretion > about the > > > > > > rules they follow. > > > > > > > > > > > > Categories of Karma > > > > > > According to the disposition of the benefic and malefic > planets in > > > > the > > > > > > birth chart from Chathra rasi, Arudha lagna, Moon or Birth > lagna, > > > the > > > > > > cause of the evil karma is ascertained. If benefics occupy > 6th, > > > > 8th and > > > > > > 12th from Chathra rasi and malefics occupy 1st, 4th, 5th, > 7th, 9th > > > > > > 10th, the sins and consequent evil effects are due to the > Gods' > > > wrath > > > > > > or fury of Gods. Here by Gods are also meant persons held in > > > > reverence > > > > > > such as parents, preceptors and elders. If the planets are > found > > > > in the > > > > > > above places from Arudha lagna, the sins are the outcome of > curses > > > > from > > > > > > Brahmins or Religious persons. If the planets occupy such > places > > > from > > > > > > Moon, the sins are due to the incantation (mantric) of > enemies. If > > > > the > > > > > > planets are found in the above-mentioned places from birth > lagna, > > > the > > > > > > peoples' hatred will be the cause. > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets favorably placed, that is, benefics in 4th, 5th, > 7th, 9th, > > > > 10th > > > > > > and malefics in 6th, 8th, 12th, indicate merit derived from > good > > > > deeds. > > > > > > > > > > > > The bad actions may be intentional or deliberate. They may > also be > > > > > > either accidental or unintentional or done out of > ignorance. They > > > may > > > > > > also be both combined. If the indicator planet representing > angry > > > > > > planets is in the Moon's sign, the sins are deliberately > > > > committed, If > > > > > > the indicator planet is in the house of Sun, the sons are > > > > ignorantly or > > > > > > accidentally got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought, Word, Deed > > > > > > Whether deliberate or accidental, the karma can again be > divided > > > into > > > > > > three categories arising out of Thought, Word and Deed. It > can > > > arise > > > > > > from mental actions such as entertaining or harboring evil > thought > > > or > > > > > > wishing others evil. It can be due to verbal actions such as > > > > indulging > > > > > > in abusive and filthy language. It can also be arising from > bodily > > > > > > actions such as causing physical injury. > > > > > > > > > > > > Suppose one deliberately insults or assaults one's parents > or > > > elders. > > > > > > Here the nature of the evil Karma is due to the intentional > Word > > > and > > > > > > Deed. The same is the case when the person harbors evil > thoughts > > > and > > > > > > the evil Karma is due to thought. If on the other hand, one > uses > > > > > > impolite language towards an elder through ignorance or > slip of > > > > tongue, > > > > > > the nature of Karma is accidental by thought or Deed. > Theaggreived > > > > > > party feels pain and this rebounds on the perpetrator of the > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > If a weak malefic is the 5th, the sins may be considered as > the > > > > outcome > > > > > > of mental actions. If it is in the 2nd, they are the > results of > > > his > > > > > > words, cruel and unwanted. If it is in the 10th, they are > the > > > > fruits of > > > > > > his bodily actions. > > > > > > > > > > > > If some planets indicate deliberate actions and some planets > > > indicate > > > > > > accidental actions, a certain delicate balancing is called > for. If > > > > > > malefic occupy 5th, 2nd and 10th houses, evil karma would > have > > > > emanated > > > > > > from all the three- Thought, Word and Deed respectively. If > > > malefics > > > > > > occupy only the 2nd and 5th while benieics occupy the 10th, > the > > > > work is > > > > > > done unwillingly, complaining bitterly. If malefics occupy > the 5th > > > > > > house while good planets are in the 2nd and 10th, the > duties are > > > done > > > > > > carelessly or indifferently without proper attention and > this may > > > > > > generally bring loss of children since 5th represents > children. If > > > > > > malefics occupy 2nd while benefics join the 5th and 10th > houses, > > > the > > > > > > evil has issued out of words, which may bring about loss of > money > > > > since > > > > > > 2nd represents money. If these malefic are in debilitation > or > > > occupy > > > > > > inimical places or combust, they cause intense evil. If > benefics > > > > are in > > > > > > exaltation, in own or friendly houses, the good they give > will > > > > also be > > > > > > great. On the contrary, if malefics are exalted and if > benefics > > > are > > > > > > debilitated, their effects will be little. > > > > > > > > > > > > Examples of Angry Planets > > > > > > Example I > > > > > > Libra-lagna, Venus; Capricorn-Moon; Aquarius- Jupiter; > Pisces- > > > > Saturn; > > > > > > Leo- Mercury, Mars, Sun; > > > > > > > > > > > > In the above chart, the birth lagna is Libra. Lord of lagna > Venus > > > > is in > > > > > > lagna Libra itself. Therefore counting 4 signs from Libra > (as per > > > the > > > > > > exception) the Arudha lagna is Capricorn counting 4 signs > from > > > Libra. > > > > > > Sun is in Leo and therefore the Veedhi rasi is Aries. > Aurdha lagna > > > to > > > > > > birth lagna is 10 signs and then counting 10 signs from > Veedhi > > > > rasi of > > > > > > Aries , the Chathra rasi is Capricorn. > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Capricorn, the benefic Mercury is in > Leo in > > > 8th > > > > > > and the malefics Rahu and Ketu are in 10th and 4th. The > other > > > > benefics > > > > > > Jupiter, Venus, Moon are in 2nd, 10th and 1st and the other > > > malefics > > > > > > Saturn, mars, Sun are in 3rd, 8th from Chathra rasi of > Capricorn. > > > > > > Therefore the Angry Planets due to Gods' wrath are Mercury, > Rahu > > > and > > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna of Capricorn, again the angry planets due > to > > > > > > Brahmins' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. Again from Moon > in > > > > > > Capricorn, the angry planets due to enemies' wrath are > Mercury, > > > Rahu > > > > > > and Ketu. From birth lagna of Libra, Rahu and Ketu are in > 7th and > > > 1st > > > > > > and hence the angry planets due to Public wrath are Rahu > and Ketu > > > > since > > > > > > other benefic planets Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury are in > 1st, > > > 4th, > > > > > > 5th, and 11th and the other malefic planets Saturn, Mars > and Sun > > > > are in > > > > > > 6th and 11th houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are the Angry planets for this > > > horoscope > > > > > > due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in > previous > > > > life, > > > > > > which would give sufferings in present life as per their > placement > > > > and > > > > > > signification in the birth chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Example II > > > > > > Cancer-Lagna; Scorpio- Rahu; Capricorn- Moon, Mars,Mercury; > > > Aquarius- > > > > > > Sun; Pisces-Jupiter, Venus; Taurus-Ketu; Gemini-Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > The birth lagna is Cancer. The Arudha lagna is Aries > counting 10 > > > > signs > > > > > > from cancer as per exception. The Veedhi rasi is Gemini > since Sun > > > > is in > > > > > > Aquarius. Arudha lagna to birth lagna is 4 signs and then > counting > > > 4 > > > > > > signs from Veedhi rasi of Gemini, the Chathra rasi id Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Virgo, the malefics Mars, Ketu and > Saturn are > > > in > > > > > > 5th, 9th and 10th and therefore the angry planets due to > Gods' > > > wrath > > > > > > are Mars, Saturn and Ketu. Since the benefics Moon, Jupiter > and > > > Venus > > > > > > are in 5th, 7th from Chathra rasi of Virgo and the other > malefics > > > of > > > > > > Rahu and Sun are 3rd and 6th. > > > > > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna, the benefics Jupiter and Venus are in > the 12th > > > and > > > > > > the malefic Mars is in 10th. Hence the angry planets due to > > > Brahmins' > > > > > > wrath are Jupiter, Venus and Mars, since other benefics > Moon and > > > > > > Mercury are in the 10th and the other malefics Saturn, Rahu > and > > > > Sun are > > > > > > in 3rd, 8th and 11th from Arudha lagna of Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > From Moon in Capricorn, themalefics Mars and Ketu are in > 1st and > > > 5th > > > > > > houses. The other malefics Sun, Saturn and Rahu are in 2nd, > 6th > > > and > > > > > > 11th and the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are in 1st > and 3rd > > > from > > > > > > Moon. Therefore the angry planets due to the enemies' wrath > are > > > Mars > > > > > > and Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > From birth lagna of Cancer, the malefics Rahu and Mars are > in the > > > 5th > > > > > > and 7th houses. The other malefics Sun, Ketu and Saturn are > in > > > 8th, > > > > > > 11th and 12th houses and the benefics Moon, Mercury, > Jupiter and > > > > Venus > > > > > > are in 7th and 9th from birth lagna of Cancer. Therefore > the angry > > > > > > planets due to people wrath are Mars and Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Ketu, Venus, Mars and > Rahu are > > > the > > > > > > angry planets due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and > > > > Public in > > > > > > previous life as per their placement and significations in > the > > > birth > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Remedial Measures > > > > > > After finding the angry planets due to various causes as > mentioned > > > > > > above, the remedial measures are to be done to those angry > planets > > > by > > > > > > doing concerned pujas, by giving concerned charities, by > praying > > > > > > concerned Gods etc. For example, if Sun is the angry > planet, the > > > > > > remedial measures may be puja to Sun, charities of wheat, > ruby, > > > > praying > > > > > > Lord Shiva etc. Details of remedial measures are not given > here > > > since > > > > > > it is totally a different subject and readers are requested > to > > > > refer to > > > > > > books and articles on remedial measures or consult a > knowledgeable > > > > and > > > > > > reliable astrologer or priest of their faith and choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > Conclusion > > > > > > Since the sins committed in past life are carried forward > to the > > > > > > present life, the human being suffers in the present life. > One > > > should > > > > > > find out those sins committed in the past life and the > concerned > > > > angry > > > > > > planets. Suitable remedial measures are to be done to those > angry > > > > > > planets to lessen the evil effects in this present life. > Also > > > > suitable > > > > > > care is to be taken in this life not to do any further evil > to > > > Gods, > > > > > > Brahmins, Enemies and Public by Thought, Word and Deed to > avoid > > > > > > suffering from any curse or wrath from them in the next > life. Thus > > > > > > nullifying all the bad karma in due course by completing > the good > > > > Karma > > > > > > also, one can attain Salvation without Rebirth. The basis > for this > > > > > > article is from the Prasna Sastra of Kerala extending to > Natal > > > birth > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Bhaskar, pls. end this bitter exchange of mails, u have already joined there. let this group do it's discussion, members may not like a converstaion getting too much personal. my best wishes to u. regards, Lalit. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > Charan sparsh. > > Noted the contents, and will make you my teacher, the > time I become a worthy student. I have really less time > to join any more groups or learn from them or write > there. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > I dont know what is ur problem with me, we have no prior > > introduction, no prior communication, but ur behavior shows something > > is wrong within u. u r doing wrong actions, wrong karma only. why u > > did join this group - > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > and i wish to tell u man, i dont have narrow group feelings, whatever > > new will come to know, i will post here and that with original > > author's name, i m not like those, who collects information from > > others or from the net and then post as their own writing. > > > > If i give my genuine contact information, what's wrong in that, why u > > r behaving like this .. ? > > > > beware of urself, being an astrologer, u should know what bad karmas > > do to a person if he is a astrologer. > > > > u can learn whatever u want to learn from me,i belive in sharing what > > i have and asking others to know what they have, this way, astrology > > and any logy goes on. > > > > regards, > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > Namaskaar. > > > > > > Read and noted Your comments. > > > I will wait for the day when in India > > > astrology is standardised and brought > > > to a academic level with grading, so > > > that I can learn under Masters like You > > > and gain some Phd.very easily. > > > At the moment I am the most ordinary > > > seeker in astrology. > > > > > > You said those who confront you are left > > > nowhere. Sir this is false illusion and > > > utopian thinking and a existence based > > > on fantasy Land living.I challenge you > > > to put me nowhere.And I fear nobody on > > > Earth except God and wrong action which > > > may inadvertently creep in my behaviour. > > > What happens to those who confront me, > > > I will not relate at the moment.That > > > has to be experienced. But do not worry > > > I have no intentions of hurting Brahmins > > > whatever karma they maybe into, so please > > > feel safe from my side.As I said I fear > > > God. > > > > > > And You mentioned about some iconic image > > > I fear I may loose. Haha. Kya baat karte ho > > > Mishra sahab. Kaun kahan ka Maharaja hai > > > duniya mein aur kitne din ka ? All this is > > > temporary. Main toh aisa aadmi hoon > > > ki kahin galti se koi image ban jaaye toh usko > > > turant break kar deta hoon, lest > > > one develops Ego in his self.Sir mujhe maaf > > > kariye. remove these illusions from > > > the mind and keep it empty > > > for some constructive thinking. > > > > > > Aur yeh sab dhong public ko madad karne ka, > > > aur spirituality ka naatak, > > > bahut dekh chuke hain Sir, jindagi mein > > > mujhe toh door rakhiye in sab gandagi se. > > > > > > Pl do not respond to my mail, or else I have > > > to reply back, and due to this the Moderator > > > may throw me out from here. > > > > > > Please spare me. Yes I fear the backlash which > > > may come from my side which i wish to avoid. > > > > > > Kind regards, and wish you all the > > > best in Your Life. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > It looks u r already a member of my group coz u know other > > members, and > > > > reading the discussion/articles, i collect from here and there > > and post > > > > in the various groups, may be, u r learning also from such > > postins coz > > > > u r member there, i feel good for u. I w'd like to object ur this > > > > sentance - " Customer " . I understand friends and people like me > > who join > > > > for their interest, or for getting some remedy, > > who are > > > > customers ? Who sees customer ? Discussion Groups have > > become > > > > marketplace ? may be ,people like u are treating groups as > > market, Any > > > > way, that's ur practice, i m no one to preech u down, > > > > > > > > However, I w'd like to object what u have written, i see some > > sort of > > > > mischief , before u, once one astrologer Dakschhinamurty > > confronted me > > > > and he is nowhere now, cleverness without truth hardly persists > > for > > > > long- > > > > > > > > " You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > > > Forum on the condition that > > > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > > > other condition, that they > > > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity " > > > > > > > > what type of man u r ? My dear, if somone asks, we help free of > > cost, i > > > > have been helped by so many astrologers , they themselves helped > > me and > > > > same way this helping attitude is going on, I will ensure it's > > going on. > > > > > > > > I have seen few people like u fears with my presence coz I speak > > for > > > > doing research to dispel doubts one basic things like - retrograde > > > > planets, planets in cusp, debilitated planet, so few people > > thinks they > > > > will loose their iconic image, No, it's not like that, if u come > > up with > > > > real life cases along with ur's invention or ur's observations, u > > will > > > > still get recognition, dont fear me. pls. try to uunderstand > > ur's a > > > > bunch of fake allegations... is no way a straighforwardness > > rather it > > > > shows either u r misguided or u r misguiding people, some hiddent > > > > interest, why u only know ? > > > > > > > > I will repeat, in fact ur's reply makes me repeat, however, i > > will work > > > > to make a plateform, an organisation that can standradise the > > practices > > > > of astrology like we do have in Software (ISO and CMM) , Read > > again > > > > what i did write earlier - > > > > > > > > " I also don't understand what makes astrologers so much frustrated > > > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will just > > try to > > > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with the > > > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what is > > root > > > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board > > > > ofexamination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the dearth > > of a > > > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly " > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > I have noted the many of your accomplishments > > > > > enumerated by Your own self,in the mail, > > > > > and congratulate You for the same.May You move > > > > > ahead in Your Life day by day. > > > > > > > > > > There is some misunderstanding. > > > > > My Query was genuine, I will repeat more > > > > > clearly what was my Query. We all are are > > > > > re-incarnations, I agree to this, > > > > > but I was actually looking for pointers > > > > > which could tell whether a natives chart > > > > > showed that His last birth too was a human > > > > > one.Because my own brother was told > > > > > by a person who looks at Auras and predicts, > > > > > that he was a Egyptian King in his last Birth. > > > > > Therefore how to find out whether one had > > > > > a human Birth in his last Birth, > > > > > was actually my Query.Yes I also agree > > > > > that this cannot be cross checked. > > > > > > > > > > I have never been spiritual in the real sense > > > > > of the term, just spend time trying to deliver > > > > > duties towards family, so I may not have > > > > > anything to ask you here. But if you have done > > > > > Karma-Kand properly in the ordained manner > > > > > ( I suppose You are a Brahmin? (Mishra)) > > > > > then I may ask you any query in future > > > > > about Mantras, whenever I face a problem > > > > > personally, mind You, and not to test your > > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > The last para of your mail does not > > > > > go with the spirituality you have portrayed > > > > > about yourself. How can You judge whether a > > > > > person is narrowminded,frustrated,or belittling > > > > > someone, when this was not the case at all. > > > > > > > > > > You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > > > > Forum on the condition that > > > > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > > > > other condition, that they > > > > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > > > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity. > > > > > Mr Pradeep and Chandrasekharji have been roped > > > > > in from here, the good person Ash has been > > > > > belittled, and thrown out . > > > > > Mr.Gopuji did not fall in the trap. > > > > > etc. Sir, I know all preaching and practise > > > > > going on in todays world.the others whom You have > > > > > given " Gurupads " I am sure would be thrown > > > > > down the same, the day they stop abiding by > > > > > You. > > > > > > > > > > let us not preach but deliver the stuff in > > > > > astrology, or whichever field of activity one > > > > > is in. > > > > > > > > > > Hope we meet again not before few > > > > > Years from now, till I attain > > > > > the level of your spirituality > > > > > or vice versa. > > > > > > > > > > Your reply to me was just a platform to > > > > > advertise about your accomplishments and > > > > > the spirituality you possess and also > > > > > Your Phone numbers for the gullible folks. > > > > > > > > > > I had been warned about you by a actual religious > > > > > personality, but unfortunately I wrote to you. > > > > > > > > > > Any way Goodbye. > > > > > God bless you with sadbudhi.Yes I am sorry for the > > > > > arrogance You witnessed in me. I have a wrong habit > > > > > of talking straight unfortunately. And again I > > > > > beg of you to be forgiven for the same, more > > > > > so if You are a Brahmin by Birth ( To me does not > > > > > matter what karma You are into.) > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > To the Moderator- > > > > > Sorry I had to reply him for what he mentioned in > > > > > His last para. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalit Mishra litsol@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > Firstly let me clarify to you that i m not a hard core > > astrologer, > > > > > I work with HCL Technologies, Noida as a Project Leader, > > Astrology > > > > > journey is merely 5 months old, but i have read around 35 - 40 > > books > > > > > in last 5 months, so m well aware of grey areas of astrology, i > > > > > thought to collect research papers of renowned astrologers from > > here > > > > > and there and put in one group and also discuss current affairs > > with > > > > > the help of astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding ur query, sound's little arrogant, coz, though i > > myself > > > > > have been doing researches in computer science and going to > > obtain my > > > > > PHD in just 1 year from now, never spoken to anyone like this. > > > > > > > > > > > > That what cant be crosschecked i find somewhat useless to ask, > > > > > everyone is a reincarnation, so how u descriminate my > > reincarnation > > > > > and ur's reincarnations ? > > > > > > > > > > > > However, u can be answered, may be not by me, but by others, I > > > > > have practised yoga and spirituality through mantras for more > > than 9 > > > > > yrs, if u have any spiritual query u can ask me, coz, i have > > some > > > > > practical experience in this area. > > > > > > > > > > > > my mail is : mlalit@ and mishra.lalit@ > > > > > > cell : 09868014069. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also dont understand what makes astrologers so much > > frustrated > > > > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will just > > try to > > > > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with the > > > > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what is > > root > > > > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board > > of > > > > > examination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the dearth > > of a > > > > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > Appreciate your zeal in promotion of the > > > > > > Group, with a prime member opting to move > > > > > > out from here, but using this same > > > > > > platform for canvassing. Another member > > > > > > in your group who has also canvassed in > > > > > > a unethical manner, calling other > > > > > > Groups as not being able to > > > > > > teach properly and commercialized. > > > > > > One should always stand on his own > > > > > > and not try to derive importance > > > > > > by show of negativity in others. > > > > > > Such prominence will give temporarary > > > > > > standing but not permanent. I am > > > > > > watching this fracas silently > > > > > > since two weeks, but speaking > > > > > > now, and very politely. The base > > > > > > has to be very strong > > > > > > and completely cemented with Ethics. > > > > > > > > > > > > The undermentioned article may be very > > > > > > good/maynot be,but to read it, one should > > > > > > present it in a short manner,maybe in 2 > > > > > > parts. At times the length dissaueds one > > > > > > from going through the whole essay, and > > > > > > one just reads the top and bottom, and > > > > > > moves to the next post. Take this > > > > > > suggestion as coming from a well wisher > > > > > > and not otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please ask one of the pundits in Your > > > > > > Forum to answer this Query- > > > > > > " How to judge whether one person > > > > > > has re-incarnated " . > > > > > > Here I dont mean the classical theories > > > > > > of judging the past Birth as coming from > > > > > > animal kingdom or going in > > > > > > next Birth to kingdom of devatas,Manes > > > > > > or back to humans. > > > > > > Short and simple explanation with definite > > > > > > clues to the answer, whether the > > > > > > person was a man in his previous > > > > > > Birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > In , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read about angry planets and other research articles > > written by > > > > > scholars > > > > > > > in the following group - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > > > > (Notes of Lecture given at Indian Council of Astrological > > Studies, > > > > > > > Hyderabad, India) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Introduction > > > > > > > Reincarnation is one of the theories of Hindu Philosophy. > > All > > > > beings > > > > > > > take fresh births to experience the results of their actions > > > > (Karma) > > > > > > > done in their previous birth. Even if there is a little > > Karma left > > > > > > > over, it has to be experienced. The Karma can be either > > good or > > > > bad > > > > > > > giving favorable or unfavorable results. There is nothing > > much to > > > > > worry > > > > > > > as long as the Karma is good for normal human beings. The > > human > > > > being > > > > > > > suffers from misfortunes in the shape of loss of wealth, > > loss of > > > > > name, > > > > > > > death of kith and kin, diseases etc., as a result of bad > > Karma in > > > > his > > > > > > > previous life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The position of planets in the birth chart would give a > > clue to > > > > find > > > > > > > out the cause of one's good or bad karma done in the past > > life. > > > > When > > > > > > > the planets are favorably placed, they indicate fruition of > > good > > > > > Karma, > > > > > > > otherwise that of evil Karma. The planets responsible for > > bad > > > > > Karma in > > > > > > > the past life would result in the person suffering from > > > > > afflictions in > > > > > > > the present life and these planets are called angry planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is believed that Atma Jnana (Self-Realization) can > > however > > > > > overcome > > > > > > > the effects of the good or bad karma. But many of the human > > beings > > > > > > > cannot reach that state of Atma Jnana. So doing some > > remedial > > > > > measures > > > > > > > to these angry planets may reduce the evil effects due to > > the > > > > Angry > > > > > > > Planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The astrologer should, carefully divine whether one's past > > karma > > > > is > > > > > > > favorable or unfavorable and in what manner it expresses > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > > > > The Angry Planets causing evil Karma are the natural benefic > > > > planets > > > > > > > deposited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and the natural > > malefic > > > > planets > > > > > > > deposited in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th houses, > > from > > > > > Chathra > > > > > > > rasi, Arudha, Moon and Lagna. The deposition of planets in > > the > > > > > 2nd, 3rd > > > > > > > and 11th may be taken as neutral, since nothing is > > specifically > > > > > > > mentioned about them in the available literature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chathra Rashi > > > > > > > The Chathra rasi is the sign counted from the Veedhi rasi. > > Count > > > > the > > > > > > > number of signs from Arudha lagna to the birth lagna and > > then > > > > count > > > > > > > this number from the Veedhi rasi to get the Chathra rasi. > > For > > > > > example, > > > > > > > if Arudha lagna is Capricorn and Veedhi rasi is Aries, > > birth lagna > > > > is > > > > > > > Libra, count from Arudha lagna to birth lagna from > > Capricorn to > > > > > Libra, > > > > > > > which is 10, and then count 10 signs from Veedhi rasi of > > Aries > > > > > which is > > > > > > > Capricorn and so Chathra rasi is Capricorn. Similarly if > > birth > > > > > lagna is > > > > > > > Cancer, Arudha lagna is Aries, Veedhi rasi is Gemini, and > > then > > > > > Chathra > > > > > > > rasi is Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Veedhi Rasi > > > > > > > If Sun is in Taurus, Gemini, Cancer or Leo, the Veedhi rasi > > is > > > > Aries. > > > > > > > If Sun is in Scorpio, Capricorn or Aquarius, Veedhi rasi is > > > > > Gemini. If > > > > > > > Sun is in the other signs, the Veedhi rasi is Taurus. For > > example, > > > > if > > > > > > > Sun is in Leo, Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in Aquarius, > > Veedhi > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > is Gemini. If Sun is in Aries, Veedhi rasi is Taurus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > Arudha lagna is the point obtained by counting as many > > signs from > > > > the > > > > > > > place of the lord of the birth lagna is removed from birth > > lagna. > > > > > > > Example is if the lord of the lagna is in the 4th, and then > > 7th > > > > from > > > > > > > the lagna becomes the Arudha lagna. But the exceptions are > > if the > > > > > lord > > > > > > > of the lagna is in the lagna itself then the 4th from lagna > > > > > becomes the > > > > > > > Arudha lagna and if the lord of the lagna is in the 7th > > then the > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > > lagna will be the 10th from the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, if the lagna is Taurus and the lord of the > > lagna > > > > > Venus is > > > > > > > in Libra in 6th, the, count 6 sings from Libra and the > > Arudha > > > > lagna > > > > > > > will be Pisces. If the lagna is Aries and lord of lagna > > Mars is in > > > > > > > Cancer, then count 7 signs from Aries and the Arudha lagna > > will be > > > > > > > Libra. If the lagna is Libra and lord of lagna Venus is in > > Libra > > > > > > > itself, count 4 signs from Libra and the Arudha lagna will > > be > > > > > > > Capricorn. If the lagna is Cancer and the lord of the lagna > > Moon > > > > > is in > > > > > > > Capricorn, count 10 signs from Cancer and the Arudha lagna > > will be > > > > > > > Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There may be some difference of opinions about fixing the > > Arudha > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > > as given above. The readers may use their own discretion > > about the > > > > > > > rules they follow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Categories of Karma > > > > > > > According to the disposition of the benefic and malefic > > planets in > > > > > the > > > > > > > birth chart from Chathra rasi, Arudha lagna, Moon or Birth > > lagna, > > > > the > > > > > > > cause of the evil karma is ascertained. If benefics occupy > > 6th, > > > > > 8th and > > > > > > > 12th from Chathra rasi and malefics occupy 1st, 4th, 5th, > > 7th, 9th > > > > > > > 10th, the sins and consequent evil effects are due to the > > Gods' > > > > wrath > > > > > > > or fury of Gods. Here by Gods are also meant persons held in > > > > > reverence > > > > > > > such as parents, preceptors and elders. If the planets are > > found > > > > > in the > > > > > > > above places from Arudha lagna, the sins are the outcome of > > curses > > > > > from > > > > > > > Brahmins or Religious persons. If the planets occupy such > > places > > > > from > > > > > > > Moon, the sins are due to the incantation (mantric) of > > enemies. If > > > > > the > > > > > > > planets are found in the above-mentioned places from birth > > lagna, > > > > the > > > > > > > peoples' hatred will be the cause. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets favorably placed, that is, benefics in 4th, 5th, > > 7th, 9th, > > > > > 10th > > > > > > > and malefics in 6th, 8th, 12th, indicate merit derived from > > good > > > > > deeds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bad actions may be intentional or deliberate. They may > > also be > > > > > > > either accidental or unintentional or done out of > > ignorance. They > > > > may > > > > > > > also be both combined. If the indicator planet representing > > angry > > > > > > > planets is in the Moon's sign, the sins are deliberately > > > > > committed, If > > > > > > > the indicator planet is in the house of Sun, the sons are > > > > > ignorantly or > > > > > > > accidentally got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought, Word, Deed > > > > > > > Whether deliberate or accidental, the karma can again be > > divided > > > > into > > > > > > > three categories arising out of Thought, Word and Deed. It > > can > > > > arise > > > > > > > from mental actions such as entertaining or harboring evil > > thought > > > > or > > > > > > > wishing others evil. It can be due to verbal actions such as > > > > > indulging > > > > > > > in abusive and filthy language. It can also be arising from > > bodily > > > > > > > actions such as causing physical injury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suppose one deliberately insults or assaults one's parents > > or > > > > elders. > > > > > > > Here the nature of the evil Karma is due to the intentional > > Word > > > > and > > > > > > > Deed. The same is the case when the person harbors evil > > thoughts > > > > and > > > > > > > the evil Karma is due to thought. If on the other hand, one > > uses > > > > > > > impolite language towards an elder through ignorance or > > slip of > > > > > tongue, > > > > > > > the nature of Karma is accidental by thought or Deed. > > Theaggreived > > > > > > > party feels pain and this rebounds on the perpetrator of the > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a weak malefic is the 5th, the sins may be considered as > > the > > > > > outcome > > > > > > > of mental actions. If it is in the 2nd, they are the > > results of > > > > his > > > > > > > words, cruel and unwanted. If it is in the 10th, they are > > the > > > > > fruits of > > > > > > > his bodily actions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If some planets indicate deliberate actions and some planets > > > > indicate > > > > > > > accidental actions, a certain delicate balancing is called > > for. If > > > > > > > malefic occupy 5th, 2nd and 10th houses, evil karma would > > have > > > > > emanated > > > > > > > from all the three- Thought, Word and Deed respectively. If > > > > malefics > > > > > > > occupy only the 2nd and 5th while benieics occupy the 10th, > > the > > > > > work is > > > > > > > done unwillingly, complaining bitterly. If malefics occupy > > the 5th > > > > > > > house while good planets are in the 2nd and 10th, the > > duties are > > > > done > > > > > > > carelessly or indifferently without proper attention and > > this may > > > > > > > generally bring loss of children since 5th represents > > children. If > > > > > > > malefics occupy 2nd while benefics join the 5th and 10th > > houses, > > > > the > > > > > > > evil has issued out of words, which may bring about loss of > > money > > > > > since > > > > > > > 2nd represents money. If these malefic are in debilitation > > or > > > > occupy > > > > > > > inimical places or combust, they cause intense evil. If > > benefics > > > > > are in > > > > > > > exaltation, in own or friendly houses, the good they give > > will > > > > > also be > > > > > > > great. On the contrary, if malefics are exalted and if > > benefics > > > > are > > > > > > > debilitated, their effects will be little. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Examples of Angry Planets > > > > > > > Example I > > > > > > > Libra-lagna, Venus; Capricorn-Moon; Aquarius- Jupiter; > > Pisces- > > > > > Saturn; > > > > > > > Leo- Mercury, Mars, Sun; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the above chart, the birth lagna is Libra. Lord of lagna > > Venus > > > > > is in > > > > > > > lagna Libra itself. Therefore counting 4 signs from Libra > > (as per > > > > the > > > > > > > exception) the Arudha lagna is Capricorn counting 4 signs > > from > > > > Libra. > > > > > > > Sun is in Leo and therefore the Veedhi rasi is Aries. > > Aurdha lagna > > > > to > > > > > > > birth lagna is 10 signs and then counting 10 signs from > > Veedhi > > > > > rasi of > > > > > > > Aries , the Chathra rasi is Capricorn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Capricorn, the benefic Mercury is in > > Leo in > > > > 8th > > > > > > > and the malefics Rahu and Ketu are in 10th and 4th. The > > other > > > > > benefics > > > > > > > Jupiter, Venus, Moon are in 2nd, 10th and 1st and the other > > > > malefics > > > > > > > Saturn, mars, Sun are in 3rd, 8th from Chathra rasi of > > Capricorn. > > > > > > > Therefore the Angry Planets due to Gods' wrath are Mercury, > > Rahu > > > > and > > > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna of Capricorn, again the angry planets due > > to > > > > > > > Brahmins' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. Again from Moon > > in > > > > > > > Capricorn, the angry planets due to enemies' wrath are > > Mercury, > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > and Ketu. From birth lagna of Libra, Rahu and Ketu are in > > 7th and > > > > 1st > > > > > > > and hence the angry planets due to Public wrath are Rahu > > and Ketu > > > > > since > > > > > > > other benefic planets Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury are in > > 1st, > > > > 4th, > > > > > > > 5th, and 11th and the other malefic planets Saturn, Mars > > and Sun > > > > > are in > > > > > > > 6th and 11th houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are the Angry planets for this > > > > horoscope > > > > > > > due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public in > > previous > > > > > life, > > > > > > > which would give sufferings in present life as per their > > placement > > > > > and > > > > > > > signification in the birth chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Example II > > > > > > > Cancer-Lagna; Scorpio- Rahu; Capricorn- Moon, Mars,Mercury; > > > > Aquarius- > > > > > > > Sun; Pisces-Jupiter, Venus; Taurus-Ketu; Gemini-Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The birth lagna is Cancer. The Arudha lagna is Aries > > counting 10 > > > > > signs > > > > > > > from cancer as per exception. The Veedhi rasi is Gemini > > since Sun > > > > > is in > > > > > > > Aquarius. Arudha lagna to birth lagna is 4 signs and then > > counting > > > > 4 > > > > > > > signs from Veedhi rasi of Gemini, the Chathra rasi id Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Virgo, the malefics Mars, Ketu and > > Saturn are > > > > in > > > > > > > 5th, 9th and 10th and therefore the angry planets due to > > Gods' > > > > wrath > > > > > > > are Mars, Saturn and Ketu. Since the benefics Moon, Jupiter > > and > > > > Venus > > > > > > > are in 5th, 7th from Chathra rasi of Virgo and the other > > malefics > > > > of > > > > > > > Rahu and Sun are 3rd and 6th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna, the benefics Jupiter and Venus are in > > the 12th > > > > and > > > > > > > the malefic Mars is in 10th. Hence the angry planets due to > > > > Brahmins' > > > > > > > wrath are Jupiter, Venus and Mars, since other benefics > > Moon and > > > > > > > Mercury are in the 10th and the other malefics Saturn, Rahu > > and > > > > > Sun are > > > > > > > in 3rd, 8th and 11th from Arudha lagna of Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Moon in Capricorn, themalefics Mars and Ketu are in > > 1st and > > > > 5th > > > > > > > houses. The other malefics Sun, Saturn and Rahu are in 2nd, > > 6th > > > > and > > > > > > > 11th and the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are in 1st > > and 3rd > > > > from > > > > > > > Moon. Therefore the angry planets due to the enemies' wrath > > are > > > > Mars > > > > > > > and Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From birth lagna of Cancer, the malefics Rahu and Mars are > > in the > > > > 5th > > > > > > > and 7th houses. The other malefics Sun, Ketu and Saturn are > > in > > > > 8th, > > > > > > > 11th and 12th houses and the benefics Moon, Mercury, > > Jupiter and > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > are in 7th and 9th from birth lagna of Cancer. Therefore > > the angry > > > > > > > planets due to people wrath are Mars and Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Ketu, Venus, Mars and > > Rahu are > > > > the > > > > > > > angry planets due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and > > > > > Public in > > > > > > > previous life as per their placement and significations in > > the > > > > birth > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remedial Measures > > > > > > > After finding the angry planets due to various causes as > > mentioned > > > > > > > above, the remedial measures are to be done to those angry > > planets > > > > by > > > > > > > doing concerned pujas, by giving concerned charities, by > > praying > > > > > > > concerned Gods etc. For example, if Sun is the angry > > planet, the > > > > > > > remedial measures may be puja to Sun, charities of wheat, > > ruby, > > > > > praying > > > > > > > Lord Shiva etc. Details of remedial measures are not given > > here > > > > since > > > > > > > it is totally a different subject and readers are requested > > to > > > > > refer to > > > > > > > books and articles on remedial measures or consult a > > knowledgeable > > > > > and > > > > > > > reliable astrologer or priest of their faith and choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conclusion > > > > > > > Since the sins committed in past life are carried forward > > to the > > > > > > > present life, the human being suffers in the present life. > > One > > > > should > > > > > > > find out those sins committed in the past life and the > > concerned > > > > > angry > > > > > > > planets. Suitable remedial measures are to be done to those > > angry > > > > > > > planets to lessen the evil effects in this present life. > > Also > > > > > suitable > > > > > > > care is to be taken in this life not to do any further evil > > to > > > > Gods, > > > > > > > Brahmins, Enemies and Public by Thought, Word and Deed to > > avoid > > > > > > > suffering from any curse or wrath from them in the next > > life. Thus > > > > > > > nullifying all the bad karma in due course by completing > > the good > > > > > Karma > > > > > > > also, one can attain Salvation without Rebirth. The basis > > for this > > > > > > > article is from the Prasna Sastra of Kerala extending to > > Natal > > > > birth > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Sir, Yes Sir, let us put an end to this exchange. Like good decent persons, which we both basically are.Before leaving, let me re-confirm that I have not joined the Forum, and have nothing against You personally, do not know you, apart from this thread, but am well-informed on the happenings on the other Groups of astrology, and also harbor no ill will against You. I am sure,the start of Your Forum, must have been to lend a helping hand to all the seekers, and I wish you all the best in the same. And no hard feelings please.Let us meet with affections,whenever we meet next time, and if You are based at Nagpur,I come there once in 15 years, never know when I may have to come in future, I hope You will allow me a cup of tea, at your place and some company of your presence, because I do not meet many Phd people in Life often. And I am serious. this is honest appreciation. God bless You. Bhaskar. , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Bhaskar, > > pls. end this bitter exchange of mails, u have already joined there. > > let this group do it's discussion, members may not like a > converstaion getting too much personal. > > my best wishes to u. > > regards, > Lalit. > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > Charan sparsh. > > > > Noted the contents, and will make you my teacher, the > > time I become a worthy student. I have really less time > > to join any more groups or learn from them or write > > there. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > I dont know what is ur problem with me, we have no prior > > > introduction, no prior communication, but ur behavior shows > something > > > is wrong within u. u r doing wrong actions, wrong karma only. why > u > > > did join this group - > > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > and i wish to tell u man, i dont have narrow group feelings, > whatever > > > new will come to know, i will post here and that with original > > > author's name, i m not like those, who collects information from > > > others or from the net and then post as their own writing. > > > > > > If i give my genuine contact information, what's wrong in that, > why u > > > r behaving like this .. ? > > > > > > beware of urself, being an astrologer, u should know what bad > karmas > > > do to a person if he is a astrologer. > > > > > > u can learn whatever u want to learn from me,i belive in sharing > what > > > i have and asking others to know what they have, this way, > astrology > > > and any logy goes on. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > Namaskaar. > > > > > > > > Read and noted Your comments. > > > > I will wait for the day when in India > > > > astrology is standardised and brought > > > > to a academic level with grading, so > > > > that I can learn under Masters like You > > > > and gain some Phd.very easily. > > > > At the moment I am the most ordinary > > > > seeker in astrology. > > > > > > > > You said those who confront you are left > > > > nowhere. Sir this is false illusion and > > > > utopian thinking and a existence based > > > > on fantasy Land living.I challenge you > > > > to put me nowhere.And I fear nobody on > > > > Earth except God and wrong action which > > > > may inadvertently creep in my behaviour. > > > > What happens to those who confront me, > > > > I will not relate at the moment.That > > > > has to be experienced. But do not worry > > > > I have no intentions of hurting Brahmins > > > > whatever karma they maybe into, so please > > > > feel safe from my side.As I said I fear > > > > God. > > > > > > > > And You mentioned about some iconic image > > > > I fear I may loose. Haha. Kya baat karte ho > > > > Mishra sahab. Kaun kahan ka Maharaja hai > > > > duniya mein aur kitne din ka ? All this is > > > > temporary. Main toh aisa aadmi hoon > > > > ki kahin galti se koi image ban jaaye toh usko > > > > turant break kar deta hoon, lest > > > > one develops Ego in his self.Sir mujhe maaf > > > > kariye. remove these illusions from > > > > the mind and keep it empty > > > > for some constructive thinking. > > > > > > > > Aur yeh sab dhong public ko madad karne ka, > > > > aur spirituality ka naatak, > > > > bahut dekh chuke hain Sir, jindagi mein > > > > mujhe toh door rakhiye in sab gandagi se. > > > > > > > > Pl do not respond to my mail, or else I have > > > > to reply back, and due to this the Moderator > > > > may throw me out from here. > > > > > > > > Please spare me. Yes I fear the backlash which > > > > may come from my side which i wish to avoid. > > > > > > > > Kind regards, and wish you all the > > > > best in Your Life. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > It looks u r already a member of my group coz u know other > > > members, and > > > > > reading the discussion/articles, i collect from here and > there > > > and post > > > > > in the various groups, may be, u r learning also from such > > > postins coz > > > > > u r member there, i feel good for u. I w'd like to object ur > this > > > > > sentance - " Customer " . I understand friends and people like > me > > > who join > > > > > for their interest, or for getting some > remedy, > > > who are > > > > > customers ? Who sees customer ? Discussion Groups have > > > become > > > > > marketplace ? may be ,people like u are treating groups as > > > market, Any > > > > > way, that's ur practice, i m no one to preech u down, > > > > > > > > > > However, I w'd like to object what u have written, i see some > > > sort of > > > > > mischief , before u, once one astrologer Dakschhinamurty > > > confronted me > > > > > and he is nowhere now, cleverness without truth hardly > persists > > > for > > > > > long- > > > > > > > > > > " You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > > > > Forum on the condition that > > > > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > > > > other condition, that they > > > > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > > > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity " > > > > > > > > > > what type of man u r ? My dear, if somone asks, we help free > of > > > cost, i > > > > > have been helped by so many astrologers , they themselves > helped > > > me and > > > > > same way this helping attitude is going on, I will ensure > it's > > > going on. > > > > > > > > > > I have seen few people like u fears with my presence coz I > speak > > > for > > > > > doing research to dispel doubts one basic things like - > retrograde > > > > > planets, planets in cusp, debilitated planet, so few people > > > thinks they > > > > > will loose their iconic image, No, it's not like that, if u > come > > > up with > > > > > real life cases along with ur's invention or ur's > observations, u > > > will > > > > > still get recognition, dont fear me. pls. try to uunderstand > > > ur's a > > > > > bunch of fake allegations... is no way a straighforwardness > > > rather it > > > > > shows either u r misguided or u r misguiding people, some > hiddent > > > > > interest, why u only know ? > > > > > > > > > > I will repeat, in fact ur's reply makes me repeat, however, i > > > will work > > > > > to make a plateform, an organisation that can standradise the > > > practices > > > > > of astrology like we do have in Software (ISO and CMM) , > Read > > > again > > > > > what i did write earlier - > > > > > > > > > > " I also don't understand what makes astrologers so much > frustrated > > > > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will > just > > > try to > > > > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with > the > > > > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what > is > > > root > > > > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board > > > > > ofexamination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the > dearth > > > of a > > > > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly " > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noted the many of your accomplishments > > > > > > enumerated by Your own self,in the mail, > > > > > > and congratulate You for the same.May You move > > > > > > ahead in Your Life day by day. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is some misunderstanding. > > > > > > My Query was genuine, I will repeat more > > > > > > clearly what was my Query. We all are are > > > > > > re-incarnations, I agree to this, > > > > > > but I was actually looking for pointers > > > > > > which could tell whether a natives chart > > > > > > showed that His last birth too was a human > > > > > > one.Because my own brother was told > > > > > > by a person who looks at Auras and predicts, > > > > > > that he was a Egyptian King in his last Birth. > > > > > > Therefore how to find out whether one had > > > > > > a human Birth in his last Birth, > > > > > > was actually my Query.Yes I also agree > > > > > > that this cannot be cross checked. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never been spiritual in the real sense > > > > > > of the term, just spend time trying to deliver > > > > > > duties towards family, so I may not have > > > > > > anything to ask you here. But if you have done > > > > > > Karma-Kand properly in the ordained manner > > > > > > ( I suppose You are a Brahmin? (Mishra)) > > > > > > then I may ask you any query in future > > > > > > about Mantras, whenever I face a problem > > > > > > personally, mind You, and not to test your > > > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > The last para of your mail does not > > > > > > go with the spirituality you have portrayed > > > > > > about yourself. How can You judge whether a > > > > > > person is narrowminded,frustrated,or belittling > > > > > > someone, when this was not the case at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > > > > > Forum on the condition that > > > > > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > > > > > other condition, that they > > > > > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > > > > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity. > > > > > > Mr Pradeep and Chandrasekharji have been roped > > > > > > in from here, the good person Ash has been > > > > > > belittled, and thrown out . > > > > > > Mr.Gopuji did not fall in the trap. > > > > > > etc. Sir, I know all preaching and practise > > > > > > going on in todays world.the others whom You have > > > > > > given " Gurupads " I am sure would be thrown > > > > > > down the same, the day they stop abiding by > > > > > > You. > > > > > > > > > > > > let us not preach but deliver the stuff in > > > > > > astrology, or whichever field of activity one > > > > > > is in. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope we meet again not before few > > > > > > Years from now, till I attain > > > > > > the level of your spirituality > > > > > > or vice versa. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reply to me was just a platform to > > > > > > advertise about your accomplishments and > > > > > > the spirituality you possess and also > > > > > > Your Phone numbers for the gullible folks. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had been warned about you by a actual religious > > > > > > personality, but unfortunately I wrote to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any way Goodbye. > > > > > > God bless you with sadbudhi.Yes I am sorry for the > > > > > > arrogance You witnessed in me. I have a wrong habit > > > > > > of talking straight unfortunately. And again I > > > > > > beg of you to be forgiven for the same, more > > > > > > so if You are a Brahmin by Birth ( To me does not > > > > > > matter what karma You are into.) > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > To the Moderator- > > > > > > Sorry I had to reply him for what he mentioned in > > > > > > His last para. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalit Mishra litsol@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Firstly let me clarify to you that i m not a hard core > > > astrologer, > > > > > > I work with HCL Technologies, Noida as a Project Leader, > > > Astrology > > > > > > journey is merely 5 months old, but i have read around 35 - > 40 > > > books > > > > > > in last 5 months, so m well aware of grey areas of > astrology, i > > > > > > thought to collect research papers of renowned astrologers > from > > > here > > > > > > and there and put in one group and also discuss current > affairs > > > with > > > > > > the help of astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding ur query, sound's little arrogant, coz, though > i > > > myself > > > > > > have been doing researches in computer science and going to > > > obtain my > > > > > > PHD in just 1 year from now, never spoken to anyone like > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That what cant be crosschecked i find somewhat useless to > ask, > > > > > > everyone is a reincarnation, so how u descriminate my > > > reincarnation > > > > > > and ur's reincarnations ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, u can be answered, may be not by me, but by > others, I > > > > > > have practised yoga and spirituality through mantras for > more > > > than 9 > > > > > > yrs, if u have any spiritual query u can ask me, coz, i > have > > > some > > > > > > practical experience in this area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my mail is : mlalit@ and mishra.lalit@ > > > > > > > cell : 09868014069. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also dont understand what makes astrologers so much > > > frustrated > > > > > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will > just > > > try to > > > > > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with > the > > > > > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what > is > > > root > > > > > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 > board > > > of > > > > > > examination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the > dearth > > > of a > > > > > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Appreciate your zeal in promotion of the > > > > > > > Group, with a prime member opting to move > > > > > > > out from here, but using this same > > > > > > > platform for canvassing. Another member > > > > > > > in your group who has also canvassed in > > > > > > > a unethical manner, calling other > > > > > > > Groups as not being able to > > > > > > > teach properly and commercialized. > > > > > > > One should always stand on his own > > > > > > > and not try to derive importance > > > > > > > by show of negativity in others. > > > > > > > Such prominence will give temporarary > > > > > > > standing but not permanent. I am > > > > > > > watching this fracas silently > > > > > > > since two weeks, but speaking > > > > > > > now, and very politely. The base > > > > > > > has to be very strong > > > > > > > and completely cemented with Ethics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The undermentioned article may be very > > > > > > > good/maynot be,but to read it, one should > > > > > > > present it in a short manner,maybe in 2 > > > > > > > parts. At times the length dissaueds one > > > > > > > from going through the whole essay, and > > > > > > > one just reads the top and bottom, and > > > > > > > moves to the next post. Take this > > > > > > > suggestion as coming from a well wisher > > > > > > > and not otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please ask one of the pundits in Your > > > > > > > Forum to answer this Query- > > > > > > > " How to judge whether one person > > > > > > > has re-incarnated " . > > > > > > > Here I dont mean the classical theories > > > > > > > of judging the past Birth as coming from > > > > > > > animal kingdom or going in > > > > > > > next Birth to kingdom of devatas,Manes > > > > > > > or back to humans. > > > > > > > Short and simple explanation with definite > > > > > > > clues to the answer, whether the > > > > > > > person was a man in his previous > > > > > > > Birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards. > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read about angry planets and other research articles > > > written by > > > > > > scholars > > > > > > > > in the following group - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > > > > > (Notes of Lecture given at Indian Council of > Astrological > > > Studies, > > > > > > > > Hyderabad, India) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Introduction > > > > > > > > Reincarnation is one of the theories of Hindu > Philosophy. > > > All > > > > > beings > > > > > > > > take fresh births to experience the results of their > actions > > > > > (Karma) > > > > > > > > done in their previous birth. Even if there is a little > > > Karma left > > > > > > > > over, it has to be experienced. The Karma can be either > > > good or > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > giving favorable or unfavorable results. There is > nothing > > > much to > > > > > > worry > > > > > > > > as long as the Karma is good for normal human beings. > The > > > human > > > > > being > > > > > > > > suffers from misfortunes in the shape of loss of > wealth, > > > loss of > > > > > > name, > > > > > > > > death of kith and kin, diseases etc., as a result of > bad > > > Karma in > > > > > his > > > > > > > > previous life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The position of planets in the birth chart would give a > > > clue to > > > > > find > > > > > > > > out the cause of one's good or bad karma done in the > past > > > life. > > > > > When > > > > > > > > the planets are favorably placed, they indicate > fruition of > > > good > > > > > > Karma, > > > > > > > > otherwise that of evil Karma. The planets responsible > for > > > bad > > > > > > Karma in > > > > > > > > the past life would result in the person suffering from > > > > > > afflictions in > > > > > > > > the present life and these planets are called angry > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is believed that Atma Jnana (Self-Realization) can > > > however > > > > > > overcome > > > > > > > > the effects of the good or bad karma. But many of the > human > > > beings > > > > > > > > cannot reach that state of Atma Jnana. So doing some > > > remedial > > > > > > measures > > > > > > > > to these angry planets may reduce the evil effects due > to > > > the > > > > > Angry > > > > > > > > Planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The astrologer should, carefully divine whether one's > past > > > karma > > > > > is > > > > > > > > favorable or unfavorable and in what manner it > expresses > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > > > > > The Angry Planets causing evil Karma are the natural > benefic > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > deposited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and the natural > > > malefic > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > deposited in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th > houses, > > > from > > > > > > Chathra > > > > > > > > rasi, Arudha, Moon and Lagna. The deposition of planets > in > > > the > > > > > > 2nd, 3rd > > > > > > > > and 11th may be taken as neutral, since nothing is > > > specifically > > > > > > > > mentioned about them in the available literature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chathra Rashi > > > > > > > > The Chathra rasi is the sign counted from the Veedhi > rasi. > > > Count > > > > > the > > > > > > > > number of signs from Arudha lagna to the birth lagna > and > > > then > > > > > count > > > > > > > > this number from the Veedhi rasi to get the Chathra > rasi. > > > For > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > > if Arudha lagna is Capricorn and Veedhi rasi is Aries, > > > birth lagna > > > > > is > > > > > > > > Libra, count from Arudha lagna to birth lagna from > > > Capricorn to > > > > > > Libra, > > > > > > > > which is 10, and then count 10 signs from Veedhi rasi > of > > > Aries > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > Capricorn and so Chathra rasi is Capricorn. Similarly > if > > > birth > > > > > > lagna is > > > > > > > > Cancer, Arudha lagna is Aries, Veedhi rasi is Gemini, > and > > > then > > > > > > Chathra > > > > > > > > rasi is Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Veedhi Rasi > > > > > > > > If Sun is in Taurus, Gemini, Cancer or Leo, the Veedhi > rasi > > > is > > > > > Aries. > > > > > > > > If Sun is in Scorpio, Capricorn or Aquarius, Veedhi > rasi is > > > > > > Gemini. If > > > > > > > > Sun is in the other signs, the Veedhi rasi is Taurus. > For > > > example, > > > > > if > > > > > > > > Sun is in Leo, Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in > Aquarius, > > > Veedhi > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > is Gemini. If Sun is in Aries, Veedhi rasi is Taurus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > Arudha lagna is the point obtained by counting as many > > > signs from > > > > > the > > > > > > > > place of the lord of the birth lagna is removed from > birth > > > lagna. > > > > > > > > Example is if the lord of the lagna is in the 4th, and > then > > > 7th > > > > > from > > > > > > > > the lagna becomes the Arudha lagna. But the exceptions > are > > > if the > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of the lagna is in the lagna itself then the 4th from > lagna > > > > > > becomes the > > > > > > > > Arudha lagna and if the lord of the lagna is in the 7th > > > then the > > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > > > lagna will be the 10th from the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, if the lagna is Taurus and the lord of the > > > lagna > > > > > > Venus is > > > > > > > > in Libra in 6th, the, count 6 sings from Libra and the > > > Arudha > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > will be Pisces. If the lagna is Aries and lord of lagna > > > Mars is in > > > > > > > > Cancer, then count 7 signs from Aries and the Arudha > lagna > > > will be > > > > > > > > Libra. If the lagna is Libra and lord of lagna Venus is > in > > > Libra > > > > > > > > itself, count 4 signs from Libra and the Arudha lagna > will > > > be > > > > > > > > Capricorn. If the lagna is Cancer and the lord of the > lagna > > > Moon > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > Capricorn, count 10 signs from Cancer and the Arudha > lagna > > > will be > > > > > > > > Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There may be some difference of opinions about fixing > the > > > Arudha > > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > > > as given above. The readers may use their own > discretion > > > about the > > > > > > > > rules they follow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Categories of Karma > > > > > > > > According to the disposition of the benefic and malefic > > > planets in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > birth chart from Chathra rasi, Arudha lagna, Moon or > Birth > > > lagna, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > cause of the evil karma is ascertained. If benefics > occupy > > > 6th, > > > > > > 8th and > > > > > > > > 12th from Chathra rasi and malefics occupy 1st, 4th, > 5th, > > > 7th, 9th > > > > > > > > 10th, the sins and consequent evil effects are due to > the > > > Gods' > > > > > wrath > > > > > > > > or fury of Gods. Here by Gods are also meant persons > held in > > > > > > reverence > > > > > > > > such as parents, preceptors and elders. If the planets > are > > > found > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > above places from Arudha lagna, the sins are the > outcome of > > > curses > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Brahmins or Religious persons. If the planets occupy > such > > > places > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Moon, the sins are due to the incantation (mantric) of > > > enemies. If > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > planets are found in the above-mentioned places from > birth > > > lagna, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > peoples' hatred will be the cause. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets favorably placed, that is, benefics in 4th, > 5th, > > > 7th, 9th, > > > > > > 10th > > > > > > > > and malefics in 6th, 8th, 12th, indicate merit derived > from > > > good > > > > > > deeds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bad actions may be intentional or deliberate. They > may > > > also be > > > > > > > > either accidental or unintentional or done out of > > > ignorance. They > > > > > may > > > > > > > > also be both combined. If the indicator planet > representing > > > angry > > > > > > > > planets is in the Moon's sign, the sins are deliberately > > > > > > committed, If > > > > > > > > the indicator planet is in the house of Sun, the sons > are > > > > > > ignorantly or > > > > > > > > accidentally got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought, Word, Deed > > > > > > > > Whether deliberate or accidental, the karma can again > be > > > divided > > > > > into > > > > > > > > three categories arising out of Thought, Word and Deed. > It > > > can > > > > > arise > > > > > > > > from mental actions such as entertaining or harboring > evil > > > thought > > > > > or > > > > > > > > wishing others evil. It can be due to verbal actions > such as > > > > > > indulging > > > > > > > > in abusive and filthy language. It can also be arising > from > > > bodily > > > > > > > > actions such as causing physical injury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suppose one deliberately insults or assaults one's > parents > > > or > > > > > elders. > > > > > > > > Here the nature of the evil Karma is due to the > intentional > > > Word > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Deed. The same is the case when the person harbors evil > > > thoughts > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the evil Karma is due to thought. If on the other hand, > one > > > uses > > > > > > > > impolite language towards an elder through ignorance or > > > slip of > > > > > > tongue, > > > > > > > > the nature of Karma is accidental by thought or Deed. > > > Theaggreived > > > > > > > > party feels pain and this rebounds on the perpetrator > of the > > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a weak malefic is the 5th, the sins may be > considered as > > > the > > > > > > outcome > > > > > > > > of mental actions. If it is in the 2nd, they are the > > > results of > > > > > his > > > > > > > > words, cruel and unwanted. If it is in the 10th, they > are > > > the > > > > > > fruits of > > > > > > > > his bodily actions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If some planets indicate deliberate actions and some > planets > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > accidental actions, a certain delicate balancing is > called > > > for. If > > > > > > > > malefic occupy 5th, 2nd and 10th houses, evil karma > would > > > have > > > > > > emanated > > > > > > > > from all the three- Thought, Word and Deed > respectively. If > > > > > malefics > > > > > > > > occupy only the 2nd and 5th while benieics occupy the > 10th, > > > the > > > > > > work is > > > > > > > > done unwillingly, complaining bitterly. If malefics > occupy > > > the 5th > > > > > > > > house while good planets are in the 2nd and 10th, the > > > duties are > > > > > done > > > > > > > > carelessly or indifferently without proper attention > and > > > this may > > > > > > > > generally bring loss of children since 5th represents > > > children. If > > > > > > > > malefics occupy 2nd while benefics join the 5th and > 10th > > > houses, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > evil has issued out of words, which may bring about > loss of > > > money > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > 2nd represents money. If these malefic are in > debilitation > > > or > > > > > occupy > > > > > > > > inimical places or combust, they cause intense evil. If > > > benefics > > > > > > are in > > > > > > > > exaltation, in own or friendly houses, the good they > give > > > will > > > > > > also be > > > > > > > > great. On the contrary, if malefics are exalted and if > > > benefics > > > > > are > > > > > > > > debilitated, their effects will be little. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Examples of Angry Planets > > > > > > > > Example I > > > > > > > > Libra-lagna, Venus; Capricorn-Moon; Aquarius- Jupiter; > > > Pisces- > > > > > > Saturn; > > > > > > > > Leo- Mercury, Mars, Sun; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the above chart, the birth lagna is Libra. Lord of > lagna > > > Venus > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > lagna Libra itself. Therefore counting 4 signs from > Libra > > > (as per > > > > > the > > > > > > > > exception) the Arudha lagna is Capricorn counting 4 > signs > > > from > > > > > Libra. > > > > > > > > Sun is in Leo and therefore the Veedhi rasi is Aries. > > > Aurdha lagna > > > > > to > > > > > > > > birth lagna is 10 signs and then counting 10 signs from > > > Veedhi > > > > > > rasi of > > > > > > > > Aries , the Chathra rasi is Capricorn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Capricorn, the benefic Mercury is > in > > > Leo in > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > and the malefics Rahu and Ketu are in 10th and 4th. The > > > other > > > > > > benefics > > > > > > > > Jupiter, Venus, Moon are in 2nd, 10th and 1st and the > other > > > > > malefics > > > > > > > > Saturn, mars, Sun are in 3rd, 8th from Chathra rasi of > > > Capricorn. > > > > > > > > Therefore the Angry Planets due to Gods' wrath are > Mercury, > > > Rahu > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna of Capricorn, again the angry planets > due > > > to > > > > > > > > Brahmins' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. Again from > Moon > > > in > > > > > > > > Capricorn, the angry planets due to enemies' wrath are > > > Mercury, > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > and Ketu. From birth lagna of Libra, Rahu and Ketu are > in > > > 7th and > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > > and hence the angry planets due to Public wrath are > Rahu > > > and Ketu > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > other benefic planets Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury are > in > > > 1st, > > > > > 4th, > > > > > > > > 5th, and 11th and the other malefic planets Saturn, > Mars > > > and Sun > > > > > > are in > > > > > > > > 6th and 11th houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are the Angry planets for > this > > > > > horoscope > > > > > > > > due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public > in > > > previous > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > > which would give sufferings in present life as per > their > > > placement > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > signification in the birth chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Example II > > > > > > > > Cancer-Lagna; Scorpio- Rahu; Capricorn- Moon, > Mars,Mercury; > > > > > Aquarius- > > > > > > > > Sun; Pisces-Jupiter, Venus; Taurus-Ketu; Gemini-Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The birth lagna is Cancer. The Arudha lagna is Aries > > > counting 10 > > > > > > signs > > > > > > > > from cancer as per exception. The Veedhi rasi is Gemini > > > since Sun > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > Aquarius. Arudha lagna to birth lagna is 4 signs and > then > > > counting > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > signs from Veedhi rasi of Gemini, the Chathra rasi id > Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Virgo, the malefics Mars, Ketu and > > > Saturn are > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 5th, 9th and 10th and therefore the angry planets due > to > > > Gods' > > > > > wrath > > > > > > > > are Mars, Saturn and Ketu. Since the benefics Moon, > Jupiter > > > and > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > are in 5th, 7th from Chathra rasi of Virgo and the > other > > > malefics > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Rahu and Sun are 3rd and 6th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna, the benefics Jupiter and Venus are > in > > > the 12th > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the malefic Mars is in 10th. Hence the angry planets > due to > > > > > Brahmins' > > > > > > > > wrath are Jupiter, Venus and Mars, since other benefics > > > Moon and > > > > > > > > Mercury are in the 10th and the other malefics Saturn, > Rahu > > > and > > > > > > Sun are > > > > > > > > in 3rd, 8th and 11th from Arudha lagna of Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Moon in Capricorn, themalefics Mars and Ketu are > in > > > 1st and > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > houses. The other malefics Sun, Saturn and Rahu are in > 2nd, > > > 6th > > > > > and > > > > > > > > 11th and the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are in > 1st > > > and 3rd > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Moon. Therefore the angry planets due to the enemies' > wrath > > > are > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > and Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From birth lagna of Cancer, the malefics Rahu and Mars > are > > > in the > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > and 7th houses. The other malefics Sun, Ketu and Saturn > are > > > in > > > > > 8th, > > > > > > > > 11th and 12th houses and the benefics Moon, Mercury, > > > Jupiter and > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > are in 7th and 9th from birth lagna of Cancer. > Therefore > > > the angry > > > > > > > > planets due to people wrath are Mars and Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Ketu, Venus, Mars and > > > Rahu are > > > > > the > > > > > > > > angry planets due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, > Enemies and > > > > > > Public in > > > > > > > > previous life as per their placement and significations > in > > > the > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remedial Measures > > > > > > > > After finding the angry planets due to various causes > as > > > mentioned > > > > > > > > above, the remedial measures are to be done to those > angry > > > planets > > > > > by > > > > > > > > doing concerned pujas, by giving concerned charities, > by > > > praying > > > > > > > > concerned Gods etc. For example, if Sun is the angry > > > planet, the > > > > > > > > remedial measures may be puja to Sun, charities of > wheat, > > > ruby, > > > > > > praying > > > > > > > > Lord Shiva etc. Details of remedial measures are not > given > > > here > > > > > since > > > > > > > > it is totally a different subject and readers are > requested > > > to > > > > > > refer to > > > > > > > > books and articles on remedial measures or consult a > > > knowledgeable > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > reliable astrologer or priest of their faith and choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conclusion > > > > > > > > Since the sins committed in past life are carried > forward > > > to the > > > > > > > > present life, the human being suffers in the present > life. > > > One > > > > > should > > > > > > > > find out those sins committed in the past life and the > > > concerned > > > > > > angry > > > > > > > > planets. Suitable remedial measures are to be done to > those > > > angry > > > > > > > > planets to lessen the evil effects in this present > life. > > > Also > > > > > > suitable > > > > > > > > care is to be taken in this life not to do any further > evil > > > to > > > > > Gods, > > > > > > > > Brahmins, Enemies and Public by Thought, Word and Deed > to > > > avoid > > > > > > > > suffering from any curse or wrath from them in the next > > > life. Thus > > > > > > > > nullifying all the bad karma in due course by > completing > > > the good > > > > > > Karma > > > > > > > > also, one can attain Salvation without Rebirth. The > basis > > > for this > > > > > > > > article is from the Prasna Sastra of Kerala extending > to > > > Natal > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Dear Mr. Bhaskar, It looks so sweet to receive ur last mail, I m not at, nor belong to Nagpur, not went there in last 10 years. It's interesting that somebody is reporting to you about daily happenings in my group, it indicates u like to hear about that group, but this is not the proper way, Pls. come and join like a respected member, share what u have seen in ur's long 15 years of astro life, why to have adultrate informations given by spy astrologers when open invitation is given. I work at Noida (UP), I m from Rewa (MP) where Saravali is believed to be written by Kalyan Verma. If u give ur's address, I can manage a cup of coffee along with some pizaa at ur's residence in Mumbai through some websites, a virtual feel of togatherness. You are most welcome at Noida. I started the group when Mr. Rup Baqaya whom i call Rup Sir deleted his group, He is An IITian, ex - cheief income tax commissionar of West Bengal, a former captain of Indian Table Tennis Team, who taught me basics of Astrology along with Sri ChandraShekhar ji, U know about Chandrashekhar Ji, he has authored a very good book for the beginnners - Vedic Astrology Demystified. regards, Lalit. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Sir, > > Yes Sir, let us put an end to this exchange. > Like good decent persons, which we both basically > are.Before leaving, let me re-confirm that I > have not joined the Forum, and have nothing > against You personally, do not know you, > apart from this thread, but am well-informed on > the happenings on the other Groups > of astrology, and also harbor no ill will against > You. I am sure,the start of Your Forum, must have > been to lend a helping hand to all the seekers, > and I wish you all the best in the same. > And no hard feelings please.Let us meet with > affections,whenever we meet next time, and > if You are based at Nagpur,I come there once in > 15 years, never know when I may have to come > in future, I hope You will allow me a cup of tea, > at your place and some company of your presence, > because I do not meet many Phd people in Life > often. And I am serious. this is honest > appreciation. > > God bless You. > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar, > > > > pls. end this bitter exchange of mails, u have already joined there. > > > > let this group do it's discussion, members may not like a > > converstaion getting too much personal. > > > > my best wishes to u. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > Charan sparsh. > > > > > > Noted the contents, and will make you my teacher, the > > > time I become a worthy student. I have really less time > > > to join any more groups or learn from them or write > > > there. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > I dont know what is ur problem with me, we have no prior > > > > introduction, no prior communication, but ur behavior shows > > something > > > > is wrong within u. u r doing wrong actions, wrong karma only. why > > u > > > > did join this group - > > > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > and i wish to tell u man, i dont have narrow group feelings, > > whatever > > > > new will come to know, i will post here and that with original > > > > author's name, i m not like those, who collects information from > > > > others or from the net and then post as their own writing. > > > > > > > > If i give my genuine contact information, what's wrong in that, > > why u > > > > r behaving like this .. ? > > > > > > > > beware of urself, being an astrologer, u should know what bad > > karmas > > > > do to a person if he is a astrologer. > > > > > > > > u can learn whatever u want to learn from me,i belive in sharing > > what > > > > i have and asking others to know what they have, this way, > > astrology > > > > and any logy goes on. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar. > > > > > > > > > > Read and noted Your comments. > > > > > I will wait for the day when in India > > > > > astrology is standardised and brought > > > > > to a academic level with grading, so > > > > > that I can learn under Masters like You > > > > > and gain some Phd.very easily. > > > > > At the moment I am the most ordinary > > > > > seeker in astrology. > > > > > > > > > > You said those who confront you are left > > > > > nowhere. Sir this is false illusion and > > > > > utopian thinking and a existence based > > > > > on fantasy Land living.I challenge you > > > > > to put me nowhere.And I fear nobody on > > > > > Earth except God and wrong action which > > > > > may inadvertently creep in my behaviour. > > > > > What happens to those who confront me, > > > > > I will not relate at the moment.That > > > > > has to be experienced. But do not worry > > > > > I have no intentions of hurting Brahmins > > > > > whatever karma they maybe into, so please > > > > > feel safe from my side.As I said I fear > > > > > God. > > > > > > > > > > And You mentioned about some iconic image > > > > > I fear I may loose. Haha. Kya baat karte ho > > > > > Mishra sahab. Kaun kahan ka Maharaja hai > > > > > duniya mein aur kitne din ka ? All this is > > > > > temporary. Main toh aisa aadmi hoon > > > > > ki kahin galti se koi image ban jaaye toh usko > > > > > turant break kar deta hoon, lest > > > > > one develops Ego in his self.Sir mujhe maaf > > > > > kariye. remove these illusions from > > > > > the mind and keep it empty > > > > > for some constructive thinking. > > > > > > > > > > Aur yeh sab dhong public ko madad karne ka, > > > > > aur spirituality ka naatak, > > > > > bahut dekh chuke hain Sir, jindagi mein > > > > > mujhe toh door rakhiye in sab gandagi se. > > > > > > > > > > Pl do not respond to my mail, or else I have > > > > > to reply back, and due to this the Moderator > > > > > may throw me out from here. > > > > > > > > > > Please spare me. Yes I fear the backlash which > > > > > may come from my side which i wish to avoid. > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, and wish you all the > > > > > best in Your Life. > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks u r already a member of my group coz u know other > > > > members, and > > > > > > reading the discussion/articles, i collect from here and > > there > > > > and post > > > > > > in the various groups, may be, u r learning also from such > > > > postins coz > > > > > > u r member there, i feel good for u. I w'd like to object ur > > this > > > > > > sentance - " Customer " . I understand friends and people like > > me > > > > who join > > > > > > for their interest, or for getting some > > remedy, > > > > who are > > > > > > customers ? Who sees customer ? Discussion Groups have > > > > become > > > > > > marketplace ? may be ,people like u are treating groups as > > > > market, Any > > > > > > way, that's ur practice, i m no one to preech u down, > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I w'd like to object what u have written, i see some > > > > sort of > > > > > > mischief , before u, once one astrologer Dakschhinamurty > > > > confronted me > > > > > > and he is nowhere now, cleverness without truth hardly > > persists > > > > for > > > > > > long- > > > > > > > > > > > > " You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > > > > > Forum on the condition that > > > > > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > > > > > other condition, that they > > > > > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > > > > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity " > > > > > > > > > > > > what type of man u r ? My dear, if somone asks, we help free > > of > > > > cost, i > > > > > > have been helped by so many astrologers , they themselves > > helped > > > > me and > > > > > > same way this helping attitude is going on, I will ensure > > it's > > > > going on. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen few people like u fears with my presence coz I > > speak > > > > for > > > > > > doing research to dispel doubts one basic things like - > > retrograde > > > > > > planets, planets in cusp, debilitated planet, so few people > > > > thinks they > > > > > > will loose their iconic image, No, it's not like that, if u > > come > > > > up with > > > > > > real life cases along with ur's invention or ur's > > observations, u > > > > will > > > > > > still get recognition, dont fear me. pls. try to uunderstand > > > > ur's a > > > > > > bunch of fake allegations... is no way a straighforwardness > > > > rather it > > > > > > shows either u r misguided or u r misguiding people, some > > hiddent > > > > > > interest, why u only know ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I will repeat, in fact ur's reply makes me repeat, however, i > > > > will work > > > > > > to make a plateform, an organisation that can standradise the > > > > practices > > > > > > of astrology like we do have in Software (ISO and CMM) , > > Read > > > > again > > > > > > what i did write earlier - > > > > > > > > > > > > " I also don't understand what makes astrologers so much > > frustrated > > > > > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will > > just > > > > try to > > > > > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with > > the > > > > > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what > > is > > > > root > > > > > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 board > > > > > > ofexamination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the > > dearth > > > > of a > > > > > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly " > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noted the many of your accomplishments > > > > > > > enumerated by Your own self,in the mail, > > > > > > > and congratulate You for the same.May You move > > > > > > > ahead in Your Life day by day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is some misunderstanding. > > > > > > > My Query was genuine, I will repeat more > > > > > > > clearly what was my Query. We all are are > > > > > > > re-incarnations, I agree to this, > > > > > > > but I was actually looking for pointers > > > > > > > which could tell whether a natives chart > > > > > > > showed that His last birth too was a human > > > > > > > one.Because my own brother was told > > > > > > > by a person who looks at Auras and predicts, > > > > > > > that he was a Egyptian King in his last Birth. > > > > > > > Therefore how to find out whether one had > > > > > > > a human Birth in his last Birth, > > > > > > > was actually my Query.Yes I also agree > > > > > > > that this cannot be cross checked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never been spiritual in the real sense > > > > > > > of the term, just spend time trying to deliver > > > > > > > duties towards family, so I may not have > > > > > > > anything to ask you here. But if you have done > > > > > > > Karma-Kand properly in the ordained manner > > > > > > > ( I suppose You are a Brahmin? (Mishra)) > > > > > > > then I may ask you any query in future > > > > > > > about Mantras, whenever I face a problem > > > > > > > personally, mind You, and not to test your > > > > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The last para of your mail does not > > > > > > > go with the spirituality you have portrayed > > > > > > > about yourself. How can You judge whether a > > > > > > > person is narrowminded,frustrated,or belittling > > > > > > > someone, when this was not the case at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > > > > > > Forum on the condition that > > > > > > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > > > > > > other condition, that they > > > > > > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > > > > > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity. > > > > > > > Mr Pradeep and Chandrasekharji have been roped > > > > > > > in from here, the good person Ash has been > > > > > > > belittled, and thrown out . > > > > > > > Mr.Gopuji did not fall in the trap. > > > > > > > etc. Sir, I know all preaching and practise > > > > > > > going on in todays world.the others whom You have > > > > > > > given " Gurupads " I am sure would be thrown > > > > > > > down the same, the day they stop abiding by > > > > > > > You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let us not preach but deliver the stuff in > > > > > > > astrology, or whichever field of activity one > > > > > > > is in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope we meet again not before few > > > > > > > Years from now, till I attain > > > > > > > the level of your spirituality > > > > > > > or vice versa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reply to me was just a platform to > > > > > > > advertise about your accomplishments and > > > > > > > the spirituality you possess and also > > > > > > > Your Phone numbers for the gullible folks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had been warned about you by a actual religious > > > > > > > personality, but unfortunately I wrote to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any way Goodbye. > > > > > > > God bless you with sadbudhi.Yes I am sorry for the > > > > > > > arrogance You witnessed in me. I have a wrong habit > > > > > > > of talking straight unfortunately. And again I > > > > > > > beg of you to be forgiven for the same, more > > > > > > > so if You are a Brahmin by Birth ( To me does not > > > > > > > matter what karma You are into.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To the Moderator- > > > > > > > Sorry I had to reply him for what he mentioned in > > > > > > > His last para. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalit Mishra litsol@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Firstly let me clarify to you that i m not a hard core > > > > astrologer, > > > > > > > I work with HCL Technologies, Noida as a Project Leader, > > > > Astrology > > > > > > > journey is merely 5 months old, but i have read around 35 - > > 40 > > > > books > > > > > > > in last 5 months, so m well aware of grey areas of > > astrology, i > > > > > > > thought to collect research papers of renowned astrologers > > from > > > > here > > > > > > > and there and put in one group and also discuss current > > affairs > > > > with > > > > > > > the help of astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding ur query, sound's little arrogant, coz, though > > i > > > > myself > > > > > > > have been doing researches in computer science and going to > > > > obtain my > > > > > > > PHD in just 1 year from now, never spoken to anyone like > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That what cant be crosschecked i find somewhat useless to > > ask, > > > > > > > everyone is a reincarnation, so how u descriminate my > > > > reincarnation > > > > > > > and ur's reincarnations ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, u can be answered, may be not by me, but by > > others, I > > > > > > > have practised yoga and spirituality through mantras for > > more > > > > than 9 > > > > > > > yrs, if u have any spiritual query u can ask me, coz, i > > have > > > > some > > > > > > > practical experience in this area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my mail is : mlalit@ and mishra.lalit@ > > > > > > > > cell : 09868014069. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also dont understand what makes astrologers so much > > > > frustrated > > > > > > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will > > just > > > > try to > > > > > > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match with > > the > > > > > > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). what > > is > > > > root > > > > > > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 > > board > > > > of > > > > > > > examination ot rate and recognise their skill and in the > > dearth > > > > of a > > > > > > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Appreciate your zeal in promotion of the > > > > > > > > Group, with a prime member opting to move > > > > > > > > out from here, but using this same > > > > > > > > platform for canvassing. Another member > > > > > > > > in your group who has also canvassed in > > > > > > > > a unethical manner, calling other > > > > > > > > Groups as not being able to > > > > > > > > teach properly and commercialized. > > > > > > > > One should always stand on his own > > > > > > > > and not try to derive importance > > > > > > > > by show of negativity in others. > > > > > > > > Such prominence will give temporarary > > > > > > > > standing but not permanent. I am > > > > > > > > watching this fracas silently > > > > > > > > since two weeks, but speaking > > > > > > > > now, and very politely. The base > > > > > > > > has to be very strong > > > > > > > > and completely cemented with Ethics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The undermentioned article may be very > > > > > > > > good/maynot be,but to read it, one should > > > > > > > > present it in a short manner,maybe in 2 > > > > > > > > parts. At times the length dissaueds one > > > > > > > > from going through the whole essay, and > > > > > > > > one just reads the top and bottom, and > > > > > > > > moves to the next post. Take this > > > > > > > > suggestion as coming from a well wisher > > > > > > > > and not otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please ask one of the pundits in Your > > > > > > > > Forum to answer this Query- > > > > > > > > " How to judge whether one person > > > > > > > > has re-incarnated " . > > > > > > > > Here I dont mean the classical theories > > > > > > > > of judging the past Birth as coming from > > > > > > > > animal kingdom or going in > > > > > > > > next Birth to kingdom of devatas,Manes > > > > > > > > or back to humans. > > > > > > > > Short and simple explanation with definite > > > > > > > > clues to the answer, whether the > > > > > > > > person was a man in his previous > > > > > > > > Birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read about angry planets and other research articles > > > > written by > > > > > > > scholars > > > > > > > > > in the following group - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > > > > > > (Notes of Lecture given at Indian Council of > > Astrological > > > > Studies, > > > > > > > > > Hyderabad, India) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Introduction > > > > > > > > > Reincarnation is one of the theories of Hindu > > Philosophy. > > > > All > > > > > > beings > > > > > > > > > take fresh births to experience the results of their > > actions > > > > > > (Karma) > > > > > > > > > done in their previous birth. Even if there is a little > > > > Karma left > > > > > > > > > over, it has to be experienced. The Karma can be either > > > > good or > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > giving favorable or unfavorable results. There is > > nothing > > > > much to > > > > > > > worry > > > > > > > > > as long as the Karma is good for normal human beings. > > The > > > > human > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > suffers from misfortunes in the shape of loss of > > wealth, > > > > loss of > > > > > > > name, > > > > > > > > > death of kith and kin, diseases etc., as a result of > > bad > > > > Karma in > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > previous life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The position of planets in the birth chart would give a > > > > clue to > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > out the cause of one's good or bad karma done in the > > past > > > > life. > > > > > > When > > > > > > > > > the planets are favorably placed, they indicate > > fruition of > > > > good > > > > > > > Karma, > > > > > > > > > otherwise that of evil Karma. The planets responsible > > for > > > > bad > > > > > > > Karma in > > > > > > > > > the past life would result in the person suffering from > > > > > > > afflictions in > > > > > > > > > the present life and these planets are called angry > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is believed that Atma Jnana (Self-Realization) can > > > > however > > > > > > > overcome > > > > > > > > > the effects of the good or bad karma. But many of the > > human > > > > beings > > > > > > > > > cannot reach that state of Atma Jnana. So doing some > > > > remedial > > > > > > > measures > > > > > > > > > to these angry planets may reduce the evil effects due > > to > > > > the > > > > > > Angry > > > > > > > > > Planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The astrologer should, carefully divine whether one's > > past > > > > karma > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > favorable or unfavorable and in what manner it > > expresses > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > > > > > > The Angry Planets causing evil Karma are the natural > > benefic > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > deposited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and the natural > > > > malefic > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > deposited in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th > > houses, > > > > from > > > > > > > Chathra > > > > > > > > > rasi, Arudha, Moon and Lagna. The deposition of planets > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > 2nd, 3rd > > > > > > > > > and 11th may be taken as neutral, since nothing is > > > > specifically > > > > > > > > > mentioned about them in the available literature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chathra Rashi > > > > > > > > > The Chathra rasi is the sign counted from the Veedhi > > rasi. > > > > Count > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > number of signs from Arudha lagna to the birth lagna > > and > > > > then > > > > > > count > > > > > > > > > this number from the Veedhi rasi to get the Chathra > > rasi. > > > > For > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > > > if Arudha lagna is Capricorn and Veedhi rasi is Aries, > > > > birth lagna > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > Libra, count from Arudha lagna to birth lagna from > > > > Capricorn to > > > > > > > Libra, > > > > > > > > > which is 10, and then count 10 signs from Veedhi rasi > > of > > > > Aries > > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > > Capricorn and so Chathra rasi is Capricorn. Similarly > > if > > > > birth > > > > > > > lagna is > > > > > > > > > Cancer, Arudha lagna is Aries, Veedhi rasi is Gemini, > > and > > > > then > > > > > > > Chathra > > > > > > > > > rasi is Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Veedhi Rasi > > > > > > > > > If Sun is in Taurus, Gemini, Cancer or Leo, the Veedhi > > rasi > > > > is > > > > > > Aries. > > > > > > > > > If Sun is in Scorpio, Capricorn or Aquarius, Veedhi > > rasi is > > > > > > > Gemini. If > > > > > > > > > Sun is in the other signs, the Veedhi rasi is Taurus. > > For > > > > example, > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > Sun is in Leo, Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in > > Aquarius, > > > > Veedhi > > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > > is Gemini. If Sun is in Aries, Veedhi rasi is Taurus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > Arudha lagna is the point obtained by counting as many > > > > signs from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > place of the lord of the birth lagna is removed from > > birth > > > > lagna. > > > > > > > > > Example is if the lord of the lagna is in the 4th, and > > then > > > > 7th > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > the lagna becomes the Arudha lagna. But the exceptions > > are > > > > if the > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > of the lagna is in the lagna itself then the 4th from > > lagna > > > > > > > becomes the > > > > > > > > > Arudha lagna and if the lord of the lagna is in the 7th > > > > then the > > > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > > > > lagna will be the 10th from the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, if the lagna is Taurus and the lord of the > > > > lagna > > > > > > > Venus is > > > > > > > > > in Libra in 6th, the, count 6 sings from Libra and the > > > > Arudha > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > will be Pisces. If the lagna is Aries and lord of lagna > > > > Mars is in > > > > > > > > > Cancer, then count 7 signs from Aries and the Arudha > > lagna > > > > will be > > > > > > > > > Libra. If the lagna is Libra and lord of lagna Venus is > > in > > > > Libra > > > > > > > > > itself, count 4 signs from Libra and the Arudha lagna > > will > > > > be > > > > > > > > > Capricorn. If the lagna is Cancer and the lord of the > > lagna > > > > Moon > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > Capricorn, count 10 signs from Cancer and the Arudha > > lagna > > > > will be > > > > > > > > > Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There may be some difference of opinions about fixing > > the > > > > Arudha > > > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > > > > as given above. The readers may use their own > > discretion > > > > about the > > > > > > > > > rules they follow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Categories of Karma > > > > > > > > > According to the disposition of the benefic and malefic > > > > planets in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > birth chart from Chathra rasi, Arudha lagna, Moon or > > Birth > > > > lagna, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > cause of the evil karma is ascertained. If benefics > > occupy > > > > 6th, > > > > > > > 8th and > > > > > > > > > 12th from Chathra rasi and malefics occupy 1st, 4th, > > 5th, > > > > 7th, 9th > > > > > > > > > 10th, the sins and consequent evil effects are due to > > the > > > > Gods' > > > > > > wrath > > > > > > > > > or fury of Gods. Here by Gods are also meant persons > > held in > > > > > > > reverence > > > > > > > > > such as parents, preceptors and elders. If the planets > > are > > > > found > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > above places from Arudha lagna, the sins are the > > outcome of > > > > curses > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > Brahmins or Religious persons. If the planets occupy > > such > > > > places > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > Moon, the sins are due to the incantation (mantric) of > > > > enemies. If > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > planets are found in the above-mentioned places from > > birth > > > > lagna, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > peoples' hatred will be the cause. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets favorably placed, that is, benefics in 4th, > > 5th, > > > > 7th, 9th, > > > > > > > 10th > > > > > > > > > and malefics in 6th, 8th, 12th, indicate merit derived > > from > > > > good > > > > > > > deeds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bad actions may be intentional or deliberate. They > > may > > > > also be > > > > > > > > > either accidental or unintentional or done out of > > > > ignorance. They > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > also be both combined. If the indicator planet > > representing > > > > angry > > > > > > > > > planets is in the Moon's sign, the sins are deliberately > > > > > > > committed, If > > > > > > > > > the indicator planet is in the house of Sun, the sons > > are > > > > > > > ignorantly or > > > > > > > > > accidentally got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought, Word, Deed > > > > > > > > > Whether deliberate or accidental, the karma can again > > be > > > > divided > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > three categories arising out of Thought, Word and Deed. > > It > > > > can > > > > > > arise > > > > > > > > > from mental actions such as entertaining or harboring > > evil > > > > thought > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > wishing others evil. It can be due to verbal actions > > such as > > > > > > > indulging > > > > > > > > > in abusive and filthy language. It can also be arising > > from > > > > bodily > > > > > > > > > actions such as causing physical injury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suppose one deliberately insults or assaults one's > > parents > > > > or > > > > > > elders. > > > > > > > > > Here the nature of the evil Karma is due to the > > intentional > > > > Word > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Deed. The same is the case when the person harbors evil > > > > thoughts > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the evil Karma is due to thought. If on the other hand, > > one > > > > uses > > > > > > > > > impolite language towards an elder through ignorance or > > > > slip of > > > > > > > tongue, > > > > > > > > > the nature of Karma is accidental by thought or Deed. > > > > Theaggreived > > > > > > > > > party feels pain and this rebounds on the perpetrator > > of the > > > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a weak malefic is the 5th, the sins may be > > considered as > > > > the > > > > > > > outcome > > > > > > > > > of mental actions. If it is in the 2nd, they are the > > > > results of > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > words, cruel and unwanted. If it is in the 10th, they > > are > > > > the > > > > > > > fruits of > > > > > > > > > his bodily actions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If some planets indicate deliberate actions and some > > planets > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > accidental actions, a certain delicate balancing is > > called > > > > for. If > > > > > > > > > malefic occupy 5th, 2nd and 10th houses, evil karma > > would > > > > have > > > > > > > emanated > > > > > > > > > from all the three- Thought, Word and Deed > > respectively. If > > > > > > malefics > > > > > > > > > occupy only the 2nd and 5th while benieics occupy the > > 10th, > > > > the > > > > > > > work is > > > > > > > > > done unwillingly, complaining bitterly. If malefics > > occupy > > > > the 5th > > > > > > > > > house while good planets are in the 2nd and 10th, the > > > > duties are > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > carelessly or indifferently without proper attention > > and > > > > this may > > > > > > > > > generally bring loss of children since 5th represents > > > > children. If > > > > > > > > > malefics occupy 2nd while benefics join the 5th and > > 10th > > > > houses, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > evil has issued out of words, which may bring about > > loss of > > > > money > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > 2nd represents money. If these malefic are in > > debilitation > > > > or > > > > > > occupy > > > > > > > > > inimical places or combust, they cause intense evil. If > > > > benefics > > > > > > > are in > > > > > > > > > exaltation, in own or friendly houses, the good they > > give > > > > will > > > > > > > also be > > > > > > > > > great. On the contrary, if malefics are exalted and if > > > > benefics > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > debilitated, their effects will be little. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Examples of Angry Planets > > > > > > > > > Example I > > > > > > > > > Libra-lagna, Venus; Capricorn-Moon; Aquarius- Jupiter; > > > > Pisces- > > > > > > > Saturn; > > > > > > > > > Leo- Mercury, Mars, Sun; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the above chart, the birth lagna is Libra. Lord of > > lagna > > > > Venus > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > lagna Libra itself. Therefore counting 4 signs from > > Libra > > > > (as per > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > exception) the Arudha lagna is Capricorn counting 4 > > signs > > > > from > > > > > > Libra. > > > > > > > > > Sun is in Leo and therefore the Veedhi rasi is Aries. > > > > Aurdha lagna > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > birth lagna is 10 signs and then counting 10 signs from > > > > Veedhi > > > > > > > rasi of > > > > > > > > > Aries , the Chathra rasi is Capricorn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Capricorn, the benefic Mercury is > > in > > > > Leo in > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > and the malefics Rahu and Ketu are in 10th and 4th. The > > > > other > > > > > > > benefics > > > > > > > > > Jupiter, Venus, Moon are in 2nd, 10th and 1st and the > > other > > > > > > malefics > > > > > > > > > Saturn, mars, Sun are in 3rd, 8th from Chathra rasi of > > > > Capricorn. > > > > > > > > > Therefore the Angry Planets due to Gods' wrath are > > Mercury, > > > > Rahu > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna of Capricorn, again the angry planets > > due > > > > to > > > > > > > > > Brahmins' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. Again from > > Moon > > > > in > > > > > > > > > Capricorn, the angry planets due to enemies' wrath are > > > > Mercury, > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > > and Ketu. From birth lagna of Libra, Rahu and Ketu are > > in > > > > 7th and > > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > > > and hence the angry planets due to Public wrath are > > Rahu > > > > and Ketu > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > other benefic planets Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury are > > in > > > > 1st, > > > > > > 4th, > > > > > > > > > 5th, and 11th and the other malefic planets Saturn, > > Mars > > > > and Sun > > > > > > > are in > > > > > > > > > 6th and 11th houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are the Angry planets for > > this > > > > > > horoscope > > > > > > > > > due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and Public > > in > > > > previous > > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > > > which would give sufferings in present life as per > > their > > > > placement > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > signification in the birth chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Example II > > > > > > > > > Cancer-Lagna; Scorpio- Rahu; Capricorn- Moon, > > Mars,Mercury; > > > > > > Aquarius- > > > > > > > > > Sun; Pisces-Jupiter, Venus; Taurus-Ketu; Gemini- Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The birth lagna is Cancer. The Arudha lagna is Aries > > > > counting 10 > > > > > > > signs > > > > > > > > > from cancer as per exception. The Veedhi rasi is Gemini > > > > since Sun > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > Aquarius. Arudha lagna to birth lagna is 4 signs and > > then > > > > counting > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > signs from Veedhi rasi of Gemini, the Chathra rasi id > > Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Virgo, the malefics Mars, Ketu and > > > > Saturn are > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > 5th, 9th and 10th and therefore the angry planets due > > to > > > > Gods' > > > > > > wrath > > > > > > > > > are Mars, Saturn and Ketu. Since the benefics Moon, > > Jupiter > > > > and > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > > are in 5th, 7th from Chathra rasi of Virgo and the > > other > > > > malefics > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Sun are 3rd and 6th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna, the benefics Jupiter and Venus are > > in > > > > the 12th > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the malefic Mars is in 10th. Hence the angry planets > > due to > > > > > > Brahmins' > > > > > > > > > wrath are Jupiter, Venus and Mars, since other benefics > > > > Moon and > > > > > > > > > Mercury are in the 10th and the other malefics Saturn, > > Rahu > > > > and > > > > > > > Sun are > > > > > > > > > in 3rd, 8th and 11th from Arudha lagna of Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Moon in Capricorn, themalefics Mars and Ketu are > > in > > > > 1st and > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > houses. The other malefics Sun, Saturn and Rahu are in > > 2nd, > > > > 6th > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > 11th and the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are in > > 1st > > > > and 3rd > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > Moon. Therefore the angry planets due to the enemies' > > wrath > > > > are > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > and Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From birth lagna of Cancer, the malefics Rahu and Mars > > are > > > > in the > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > and 7th houses. The other malefics Sun, Ketu and Saturn > > are > > > > in > > > > > > 8th, > > > > > > > > > 11th and 12th houses and the benefics Moon, Mercury, > > > > Jupiter and > > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > > are in 7th and 9th from birth lagna of Cancer. > > Therefore > > > > the angry > > > > > > > > > planets due to people wrath are Mars and Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Ketu, Venus, Mars and > > > > Rahu are > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > angry planets due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, > > Enemies and > > > > > > > Public in > > > > > > > > > previous life as per their placement and significations > > in > > > > the > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remedial Measures > > > > > > > > > After finding the angry planets due to various causes > > as > > > > mentioned > > > > > > > > > above, the remedial measures are to be done to those > > angry > > > > planets > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > doing concerned pujas, by giving concerned charities, > > by > > > > praying > > > > > > > > > concerned Gods etc. For example, if Sun is the angry > > > > planet, the > > > > > > > > > remedial measures may be puja to Sun, charities of > > wheat, > > > > ruby, > > > > > > > praying > > > > > > > > > Lord Shiva etc. Details of remedial measures are not > > given > > > > here > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > it is totally a different subject and readers are > > requested > > > > to > > > > > > > refer to > > > > > > > > > books and articles on remedial measures or consult a > > > > knowledgeable > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > reliable astrologer or priest of their faith and choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conclusion > > > > > > > > > Since the sins committed in past life are carried > > forward > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > present life, the human being suffers in the present > > life. > > > > One > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > find out those sins committed in the past life and the > > > > concerned > > > > > > > angry > > > > > > > > > planets. Suitable remedial measures are to be done to > > those > > > > angry > > > > > > > > > planets to lessen the evil effects in this present > > life. > > > > Also > > > > > > > suitable > > > > > > > > > care is to be taken in this life not to do any further > > evil > > > > to > > > > > > Gods, > > > > > > > > > Brahmins, Enemies and Public by Thought, Word and Deed > > to > > > > avoid > > > > > > > > > suffering from any curse or wrath from them in the next > > > > life. Thus > > > > > > > > > nullifying all the bad karma in due course by > > completing > > > > the good > > > > > > > Karma > > > > > > > > > also, one can attain Salvation without Rebirth. The > > basis > > > > for this > > > > > > > > > article is from the Prasna Sastra of Kerala extending > > to > > > > Natal > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives > > answers, > > > > not > > > > > > > web links. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Sir, I am a respected member in my own eyes,anytime. Which is what matters. Public opinions may differ from time to time, but one has to be true to himself I am sure you would agree. I also am aware of my negatives which I try to improve and always ask the Lord, Shri Krishna Bhagwaan to make me worth his Bhakta. Not just Your group but I get some tit bits from other Groups too, if something spectacular happens. I personally have no time actually to visit Groups and study what is going there, because I am yet to be settled, in the wordly way of its definition.So I use astrology forums as relaxation in between my other work which is mostly done on PC. Presently I am writing only on this Forum, and maybe if some Urgent enquiry or challenging call for help comes, I take it. Yes I will join Your Forum next week. But if You do not know I am unwanted by many people around them.Few members in Your forum may not stand my presence unless I am silent. You are welcome to Mumbai anytime. I had been to Noida once 3 years back from Delhi, we had visited Haldiram when he had opened a new Food centre on that road. I dont eat Pizzas because ultimately it is our roti packed manytimes over with vegetable and cheese dressings and costing Rs.80-250- I better have normal Dal-Roti chawal with papad for the complete satisfaction. But I will have one with you. My father is from Mirzapur, his Nanihal was there (Binanis). He did his schooling there before moving to Calcutta for Graduation. Chandrasekharji, and Shri Sunil Nairji, Yes I respect both of them. They are certainly good for any group. Of course others are good too. Oklay now, we are talking non-astrological here in this Forum, before the axe falls on me,I shall retreat now. kind regards, Bhaskar. , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Mr. Bhaskar, > > It looks so sweet to receive ur last mail, I m not at, nor belong to > Nagpur, not went there in last 10 years. It's interesting that > somebody is reporting to you about daily happenings in my group, it > indicates u like to hear about that group, but this is not the proper > way, Pls. come and join like a respected member, share what u have > seen in ur's long 15 years of astro life, why to have adultrate > informations given by spy astrologers when open invitation is given. > > I work at Noida (UP), I m from Rewa (MP) where Saravali is believed > to be written by Kalyan Verma. > > If u give ur's address, I can manage a cup of coffee along with some > pizaa at ur's residence in Mumbai through some websites, a virtual > feel of togatherness. > > > > You are most welcome at Noida. I started the group when Mr. Rup > Baqaya whom i call Rup Sir deleted his group, He is An IITian, ex - > cheief income tax commissionar of West Bengal, a former captain of > Indian Table Tennis Team, who taught me basics of Astrology along > with Sri ChandraShekhar ji, U know about Chandrashekhar Ji, he has > authored a very good book for the beginnners - Vedic Astrology > Demystified. > > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > Yes Sir, let us put an end to this exchange. > > Like good decent persons, which we both basically > > are.Before leaving, let me re-confirm that I > > have not joined the Forum, and have nothing > > against You personally, do not know you, > > apart from this thread, but am well-informed on > > the happenings on the other Groups > > of astrology, and also harbor no ill will against > > You. I am sure,the start of Your Forum, must have > > been to lend a helping hand to all the seekers, > > and I wish you all the best in the same. > > And no hard feelings please.Let us meet with > > affections,whenever we meet next time, and > > if You are based at Nagpur,I come there once in > > 15 years, never know when I may have to come > > in future, I hope You will allow me a cup of tea, > > at your place and some company of your presence, > > because I do not meet many Phd people in Life > > often. And I am serious. this is honest > > appreciation. > > > > God bless You. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar, > > > > > > pls. end this bitter exchange of mails, u have already joined > there. > > > > > > let this group do it's discussion, members may not like a > > > converstaion getting too much personal. > > > > > > my best wishes to u. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > Charan sparsh. > > > > > > > > Noted the contents, and will make you my teacher, the > > > > time I become a worthy student. I have really less time > > > > to join any more groups or learn from them or write > > > > there. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > I dont know what is ur problem with me, we have no prior > > > > > introduction, no prior communication, but ur behavior shows > > > something > > > > > is wrong within u. u r doing wrong actions, wrong karma only. > why > > > u > > > > > did join this group - > > > > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > > > and i wish to tell u man, i dont have narrow group feelings, > > > whatever > > > > > new will come to know, i will post here and that with > original > > > > > author's name, i m not like those, who collects information > from > > > > > others or from the net and then post as their own writing. > > > > > > > > > > If i give my genuine contact information, what's wrong in > that, > > > why u > > > > > r behaving like this .. ? > > > > > > > > > > beware of urself, being an astrologer, u should know what bad > > > karmas > > > > > do to a person if he is a astrologer. > > > > > > > > > > u can learn whatever u want to learn from me,i belive in > sharing > > > what > > > > > i have and asking others to know what they have, this way, > > > astrology > > > > > and any logy goes on. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Read and noted Your comments. > > > > > > I will wait for the day when in India > > > > > > astrology is standardised and brought > > > > > > to a academic level with grading, so > > > > > > that I can learn under Masters like You > > > > > > and gain some Phd.very easily. > > > > > > At the moment I am the most ordinary > > > > > > seeker in astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > You said those who confront you are left > > > > > > nowhere. Sir this is false illusion and > > > > > > utopian thinking and a existence based > > > > > > on fantasy Land living.I challenge you > > > > > > to put me nowhere.And I fear nobody on > > > > > > Earth except God and wrong action which > > > > > > may inadvertently creep in my behaviour. > > > > > > What happens to those who confront me, > > > > > > I will not relate at the moment.That > > > > > > has to be experienced. But do not worry > > > > > > I have no intentions of hurting Brahmins > > > > > > whatever karma they maybe into, so please > > > > > > feel safe from my side.As I said I fear > > > > > > God. > > > > > > > > > > > > And You mentioned about some iconic image > > > > > > I fear I may loose. Haha. Kya baat karte ho > > > > > > Mishra sahab. Kaun kahan ka Maharaja hai > > > > > > duniya mein aur kitne din ka ? All this is > > > > > > temporary. Main toh aisa aadmi hoon > > > > > > ki kahin galti se koi image ban jaaye toh usko > > > > > > turant break kar deta hoon, lest > > > > > > one develops Ego in his self.Sir mujhe maaf > > > > > > kariye. remove these illusions from > > > > > > the mind and keep it empty > > > > > > for some constructive thinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > Aur yeh sab dhong public ko madad karne ka, > > > > > > aur spirituality ka naatak, > > > > > > bahut dekh chuke hain Sir, jindagi mein > > > > > > mujhe toh door rakhiye in sab gandagi se. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pl do not respond to my mail, or else I have > > > > > > to reply back, and due to this the Moderator > > > > > > may throw me out from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please spare me. Yes I fear the backlash which > > > > > > may come from my side which i wish to avoid. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, and wish you all the > > > > > > best in Your Life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks u r already a member of my group coz u know > other > > > > > members, and > > > > > > > reading the discussion/articles, i collect from here and > > > there > > > > > and post > > > > > > > in the various groups, may be, u r learning also from > such > > > > > postins coz > > > > > > > u r member there, i feel good for u. I w'd like to object > ur > > > this > > > > > > > sentance - " Customer " . I understand friends and people > like > > > me > > > > > who join > > > > > > > for their interest, or for getting some > > > remedy, > > > > > who are > > > > > > > customers ? Who sees customer ? Discussion Groups > have > > > > > become > > > > > > > marketplace ? may be ,people like u are treating groups > as > > > > > market, Any > > > > > > > way, that's ur practice, i m no one to preech u down, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I w'd like to object what u have written, i see > some > > > > > sort of > > > > > > > mischief , before u, once one astrologer Dakschhinamurty > > > > > confronted me > > > > > > > and he is nowhere now, cleverness without truth hardly > > > persists > > > > > for > > > > > > > long- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > > > > > > Forum on the condition that > > > > > > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > > > > > > other condition, that they > > > > > > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > > > > > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what type of man u r ? My dear, if somone asks, we help > free > > > of > > > > > cost, i > > > > > > > have been helped by so many astrologers , they themselves > > > helped > > > > > me and > > > > > > > same way this helping attitude is going on, I will ensure > > > it's > > > > > going on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen few people like u fears with my presence coz > I > > > speak > > > > > for > > > > > > > doing research to dispel doubts one basic things like - > > > retrograde > > > > > > > planets, planets in cusp, debilitated planet, so few > people > > > > > thinks they > > > > > > > will loose their iconic image, No, it's not like that, if > u > > > come > > > > > up with > > > > > > > real life cases along with ur's invention or ur's > > > observations, u > > > > > will > > > > > > > still get recognition, dont fear me. pls. try to > uunderstand > > > > > ur's a > > > > > > > bunch of fake allegations... is no way a > straighforwardness > > > > > rather it > > > > > > > shows either u r misguided or u r misguiding people, some > > > hiddent > > > > > > > interest, why u only know ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will repeat, in fact ur's reply makes me repeat, > however, i > > > > > will work > > > > > > > to make a plateform, an organisation that can standradise > the > > > > > practices > > > > > > > of astrology like we do have in Software (ISO and CMM) , > > > Read > > > > > again > > > > > > > what i did write earlier - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I also don't understand what makes astrologers so much > > > frustrated > > > > > > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they will > > > just > > > > > try to > > > > > > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match > with > > > the > > > > > > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). > what > > > is > > > > > root > > > > > > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like 10+2 > board > > > > > > > ofexamination ot rate and recognise their skill and in > the > > > dearth > > > > > of a > > > > > > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noted the many of your accomplishments > > > > > > > > enumerated by Your own self,in the mail, > > > > > > > > and congratulate You for the same.May You move > > > > > > > > ahead in Your Life day by day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is some misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > My Query was genuine, I will repeat more > > > > > > > > clearly what was my Query. We all are are > > > > > > > > re-incarnations, I agree to this, > > > > > > > > but I was actually looking for pointers > > > > > > > > which could tell whether a natives chart > > > > > > > > showed that His last birth too was a human > > > > > > > > one.Because my own brother was told > > > > > > > > by a person who looks at Auras and predicts, > > > > > > > > that he was a Egyptian King in his last Birth. > > > > > > > > Therefore how to find out whether one had > > > > > > > > a human Birth in his last Birth, > > > > > > > > was actually my Query.Yes I also agree > > > > > > > > that this cannot be cross checked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never been spiritual in the real sense > > > > > > > > of the term, just spend time trying to deliver > > > > > > > > duties towards family, so I may not have > > > > > > > > anything to ask you here. But if you have done > > > > > > > > Karma-Kand properly in the ordained manner > > > > > > > > ( I suppose You are a Brahmin? (Mishra)) > > > > > > > > then I may ask you any query in future > > > > > > > > about Mantras, whenever I face a problem > > > > > > > > personally, mind You, and not to test your > > > > > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The last para of your mail does not > > > > > > > > go with the spirituality you have portrayed > > > > > > > > about yourself. How can You judge whether a > > > > > > > > person is narrowminded,frustrated,or belittling > > > > > > > > someone, when this was not the case at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have tied up with astrologers on Your > > > > > > > > Forum on the condition that > > > > > > > > they serve Your Forum faitfhully,and the > > > > > > > > other condition, that they > > > > > > > > bring in customers by spreading name of > > > > > > > > Your Forum. Is it not? That is not Divinity. > > > > > > > > Mr Pradeep and Chandrasekharji have been roped > > > > > > > > in from here, the good person Ash has been > > > > > > > > belittled, and thrown out . > > > > > > > > Mr.Gopuji did not fall in the trap. > > > > > > > > etc. Sir, I know all preaching and practise > > > > > > > > going on in todays world.the others whom You have > > > > > > > > given " Gurupads " I am sure would be thrown > > > > > > > > down the same, the day they stop abiding by > > > > > > > > You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let us not preach but deliver the stuff in > > > > > > > > astrology, or whichever field of activity one > > > > > > > > is in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope we meet again not before few > > > > > > > > Years from now, till I attain > > > > > > > > the level of your spirituality > > > > > > > > or vice versa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reply to me was just a platform to > > > > > > > > advertise about your accomplishments and > > > > > > > > the spirituality you possess and also > > > > > > > > Your Phone numbers for the gullible folks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had been warned about you by a actual religious > > > > > > > > personality, but unfortunately I wrote to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any way Goodbye. > > > > > > > > God bless you with sadbudhi.Yes I am sorry for the > > > > > > > > arrogance You witnessed in me. I have a wrong habit > > > > > > > > of talking straight unfortunately. And again I > > > > > > > > beg of you to be forgiven for the same, more > > > > > > > > so if You are a Brahmin by Birth ( To me does not > > > > > > > > matter what karma You are into.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To the Moderator- > > > > > > > > Sorry I had to reply him for what he mentioned in > > > > > > > > His last para. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalit Mishra > litsol@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Firstly let me clarify to you that i m not a hard > core > > > > > astrologer, > > > > > > > > I work with HCL Technologies, Noida as a Project > Leader, > > > > > Astrology > > > > > > > > journey is merely 5 months old, but i have read around > 35 - > > > 40 > > > > > books > > > > > > > > in last 5 months, so m well aware of grey areas of > > > astrology, i > > > > > > > > thought to collect research papers of renowned > astrologers > > > from > > > > > here > > > > > > > > and there and put in one group and also discuss current > > > affairs > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the help of astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding ur query, sound's little arrogant, coz, > though > > > i > > > > > myself > > > > > > > > have been doing researches in computer science and > going to > > > > > obtain my > > > > > > > > PHD in just 1 year from now, never spoken to anyone > like > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That what cant be crosschecked i find somewhat > useless to > > > ask, > > > > > > > > everyone is a reincarnation, so how u descriminate my > > > > > reincarnation > > > > > > > > and ur's reincarnations ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, u can be answered, may be not by me, but by > > > others, I > > > > > > > > have practised yoga and spirituality through mantras > for > > > more > > > > > than 9 > > > > > > > > yrs, if u have any spiritual query u can ask me, coz, i > > > have > > > > > some > > > > > > > > practical experience in this area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my mail is : mlalit@ and mishra.lalit@ > > > > > > > > > cell : 09868014069. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also dont understand what makes astrologers so much > > > > > frustrated > > > > > > > > and narrow minded that if they know a bit more, they > will > > > just > > > > > try to > > > > > > > > belittle next person, this behavior just doesn't match > with > > > the > > > > > > > > greatnes of divine subject like astrology (a vedanga). > what > > > is > > > > > root > > > > > > > > cause of frustration, may be there is no board like > 10+2 > > > board > > > > > of > > > > > > > > examination ot rate and recognise their skill and in > the > > > dearth > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > system, such frustrations crept in, unknowingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Appreciate your zeal in promotion of the > > > > > > > > > Group, with a prime member opting to move > > > > > > > > > out from here, but using this same > > > > > > > > > platform for canvassing. Another member > > > > > > > > > in your group who has also canvassed in > > > > > > > > > a unethical manner, calling other > > > > > > > > > Groups as not being able to > > > > > > > > > teach properly and commercialized. > > > > > > > > > One should always stand on his own > > > > > > > > > and not try to derive importance > > > > > > > > > by show of negativity in others. > > > > > > > > > Such prominence will give temporarary > > > > > > > > > standing but not permanent. I am > > > > > > > > > watching this fracas silently > > > > > > > > > since two weeks, but speaking > > > > > > > > > now, and very politely. The base > > > > > > > > > has to be very strong > > > > > > > > > and completely cemented with Ethics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The undermentioned article may be very > > > > > > > > > good/maynot be,but to read it, one should > > > > > > > > > present it in a short manner,maybe in 2 > > > > > > > > > parts. At times the length dissaueds one > > > > > > > > > from going through the whole essay, and > > > > > > > > > one just reads the top and bottom, and > > > > > > > > > moves to the next post. Take this > > > > > > > > > suggestion as coming from a well wisher > > > > > > > > > and not otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please ask one of the pundits in Your > > > > > > > > > Forum to answer this Query- > > > > > > > > > " How to judge whether one person > > > > > > > > > has re-incarnated " . > > > > > > > > > Here I dont mean the classical theories > > > > > > > > > of judging the past Birth as coming from > > > > > > > > > animal kingdom or going in > > > > > > > > > next Birth to kingdom of devatas,Manes > > > > > > > > > or back to humans. > > > > > > > > > Short and simple explanation with definite > > > > > > > > > clues to the answer, whether the > > > > > > > > > person was a man in his previous > > > > > > > > > Birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read about angry planets and other research > articles > > > > > written by > > > > > > > > scholars > > > > > > > > > > in the following group - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > > > > > > > (Notes of Lecture given at Indian Council of > > > Astrological > > > > > Studies, > > > > > > > > > > Hyderabad, India) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Introduction > > > > > > > > > > Reincarnation is one of the theories of Hindu > > > Philosophy. > > > > > All > > > > > > > beings > > > > > > > > > > take fresh births to experience the results of > their > > > actions > > > > > > > (Karma) > > > > > > > > > > done in their previous birth. Even if there is a > little > > > > > Karma left > > > > > > > > > > over, it has to be experienced. The Karma can be > either > > > > > good or > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > giving favorable or unfavorable results. There is > > > nothing > > > > > much to > > > > > > > > worry > > > > > > > > > > as long as the Karma is good for normal human > beings. > > > The > > > > > human > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > suffers from misfortunes in the shape of loss of > > > wealth, > > > > > loss of > > > > > > > > name, > > > > > > > > > > death of kith and kin, diseases etc., as a result > of > > > bad > > > > > Karma in > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > previous life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The position of planets in the birth chart would > give a > > > > > clue to > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > out the cause of one's good or bad karma done in > the > > > past > > > > > life. > > > > > > > When > > > > > > > > > > the planets are favorably placed, they indicate > > > fruition of > > > > > good > > > > > > > > Karma, > > > > > > > > > > otherwise that of evil Karma. The planets > responsible > > > for > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > Karma in > > > > > > > > > > the past life would result in the person suffering > from > > > > > > > > afflictions in > > > > > > > > > > the present life and these planets are called angry > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is believed that Atma Jnana (Self-Realization) > can > > > > > however > > > > > > > > overcome > > > > > > > > > > the effects of the good or bad karma. But many of > the > > > human > > > > > beings > > > > > > > > > > cannot reach that state of Atma Jnana. So doing > some > > > > > remedial > > > > > > > > measures > > > > > > > > > > to these angry planets may reduce the evil effects > due > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > Angry > > > > > > > > > > Planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The astrologer should, carefully divine whether > one's > > > past > > > > > karma > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > favorable or unfavorable and in what manner it > > > expresses > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Angry Planets > > > > > > > > > > The Angry Planets causing evil Karma are the > natural > > > benefic > > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > > deposited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and the > natural > > > > > malefic > > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > > deposited in the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th > > > houses, > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Chathra > > > > > > > > > > rasi, Arudha, Moon and Lagna. The deposition of > planets > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > 2nd, 3rd > > > > > > > > > > and 11th may be taken as neutral, since nothing is > > > > > specifically > > > > > > > > > > mentioned about them in the available literature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chathra Rashi > > > > > > > > > > The Chathra rasi is the sign counted from the > Veedhi > > > rasi. > > > > > Count > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > number of signs from Arudha lagna to the birth > lagna > > > and > > > > > then > > > > > > > count > > > > > > > > > > this number from the Veedhi rasi to get the Chathra > > > rasi. > > > > > For > > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > > > > if Arudha lagna is Capricorn and Veedhi rasi is > Aries, > > > > > birth lagna > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > Libra, count from Arudha lagna to birth lagna from > > > > > Capricorn to > > > > > > > > Libra, > > > > > > > > > > which is 10, and then count 10 signs from Veedhi > rasi > > > of > > > > > Aries > > > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > > > Capricorn and so Chathra rasi is Capricorn. > Similarly > > > if > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > lagna is > > > > > > > > > > Cancer, Arudha lagna is Aries, Veedhi rasi is > Gemini, > > > and > > > > > then > > > > > > > > Chathra > > > > > > > > > > rasi is Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Veedhi Rasi > > > > > > > > > > If Sun is in Taurus, Gemini, Cancer or Leo, the > Veedhi > > > rasi > > > > > is > > > > > > > Aries. > > > > > > > > > > If Sun is in Scorpio, Capricorn or Aquarius, Veedhi > > > rasi is > > > > > > > > Gemini. If > > > > > > > > > > Sun is in the other signs, the Veedhi rasi is > Taurus. > > > For > > > > > example, > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > Sun is in Leo, Veedhi rasi is Aries. If Sun is in > > > Aquarius, > > > > > Veedhi > > > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > > > is Gemini. If Sun is in Aries, Veedhi rasi is > Taurus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna > > > > > > > > > > Arudha lagna is the point obtained by counting as > many > > > > > signs from > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > place of the lord of the birth lagna is removed > from > > > birth > > > > > lagna. > > > > > > > > > > Example is if the lord of the lagna is in the 4th, > and > > > then > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > the lagna becomes the Arudha lagna. But the > exceptions > > > are > > > > > if the > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > of the lagna is in the lagna itself then the 4th > from > > > lagna > > > > > > > > becomes the > > > > > > > > > > Arudha lagna and if the lord of the lagna is in the > 7th > > > > > then the > > > > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > > > > > lagna will be the 10th from the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, if the lagna is Taurus and the lord of > the > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > Venus is > > > > > > > > > > in Libra in 6th, the, count 6 sings from Libra and > the > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > will be Pisces. If the lagna is Aries and lord of > lagna > > > > > Mars is in > > > > > > > > > > Cancer, then count 7 signs from Aries and the > Arudha > > > lagna > > > > > will be > > > > > > > > > > Libra. If the lagna is Libra and lord of lagna > Venus is > > > in > > > > > Libra > > > > > > > > > > itself, count 4 signs from Libra and the Arudha > lagna > > > will > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > Capricorn. If the lagna is Cancer and the lord of > the > > > lagna > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > Capricorn, count 10 signs from Cancer and the > Arudha > > > lagna > > > > > will be > > > > > > > > > > Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There may be some difference of opinions about > fixing > > > the > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > > > > > as given above. The readers may use their own > > > discretion > > > > > about the > > > > > > > > > > rules they follow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Categories of Karma > > > > > > > > > > According to the disposition of the benefic and > malefic > > > > > planets in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > birth chart from Chathra rasi, Arudha lagna, Moon > or > > > Birth > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > cause of the evil karma is ascertained. If benefics > > > occupy > > > > > 6th, > > > > > > > > 8th and > > > > > > > > > > 12th from Chathra rasi and malefics occupy 1st, > 4th, > > > 5th, > > > > > 7th, 9th > > > > > > > > > > 10th, the sins and consequent evil effects are due > to > > > the > > > > > Gods' > > > > > > > wrath > > > > > > > > > > or fury of Gods. Here by Gods are also meant > persons > > > held in > > > > > > > > reverence > > > > > > > > > > such as parents, preceptors and elders. If the > planets > > > are > > > > > found > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > above places from Arudha lagna, the sins are the > > > outcome of > > > > > curses > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > Brahmins or Religious persons. If the planets > occupy > > > such > > > > > places > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > Moon, the sins are due to the incantation (mantric) > of > > > > > enemies. If > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > planets are found in the above-mentioned places > from > > > birth > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > peoples' hatred will be the cause. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets favorably placed, that is, benefics in 4th, > > > 5th, > > > > > 7th, 9th, > > > > > > > > 10th > > > > > > > > > > and malefics in 6th, 8th, 12th, indicate merit > derived > > > from > > > > > good > > > > > > > > deeds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bad actions may be intentional or deliberate. > They > > > may > > > > > also be > > > > > > > > > > either accidental or unintentional or done out of > > > > > ignorance. They > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > also be both combined. If the indicator planet > > > representing > > > > > angry > > > > > > > > > > planets is in the Moon's sign, the sins are > deliberately > > > > > > > > committed, If > > > > > > > > > > the indicator planet is in the house of Sun, the > sons > > > are > > > > > > > > ignorantly or > > > > > > > > > > accidentally got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought, Word, Deed > > > > > > > > > > Whether deliberate or accidental, the karma can > again > > > be > > > > > divided > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > three categories arising out of Thought, Word and > Deed. > > > It > > > > > can > > > > > > > arise > > > > > > > > > > from mental actions such as entertaining or > harboring > > > evil > > > > > thought > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > wishing others evil. It can be due to verbal > actions > > > such as > > > > > > > > indulging > > > > > > > > > > in abusive and filthy language. It can also be > arising > > > from > > > > > bodily > > > > > > > > > > actions such as causing physical injury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suppose one deliberately insults or assaults one's > > > parents > > > > > or > > > > > > > elders. > > > > > > > > > > Here the nature of the evil Karma is due to the > > > intentional > > > > > Word > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Deed. The same is the case when the person harbors > evil > > > > > thoughts > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > the evil Karma is due to thought. If on the other > hand, > > > one > > > > > uses > > > > > > > > > > impolite language towards an elder through > ignorance or > > > > > slip of > > > > > > > > tongue, > > > > > > > > > > the nature of Karma is accidental by thought or > Deed. > > > > > Theaggreived > > > > > > > > > > party feels pain and this rebounds on the > perpetrator > > > of the > > > > > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a weak malefic is the 5th, the sins may be > > > considered as > > > > > the > > > > > > > > outcome > > > > > > > > > > of mental actions. If it is in the 2nd, they are > the > > > > > results of > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > words, cruel and unwanted. If it is in the 10th, > they > > > are > > > > > the > > > > > > > > fruits of > > > > > > > > > > his bodily actions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If some planets indicate deliberate actions and > some > > > planets > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > accidental actions, a certain delicate balancing is > > > called > > > > > for. If > > > > > > > > > > malefic occupy 5th, 2nd and 10th houses, evil karma > > > would > > > > > have > > > > > > > > emanated > > > > > > > > > > from all the three- Thought, Word and Deed > > > respectively. If > > > > > > > malefics > > > > > > > > > > occupy only the 2nd and 5th while benieics occupy > the > > > 10th, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > work is > > > > > > > > > > done unwillingly, complaining bitterly. If malefics > > > occupy > > > > > the 5th > > > > > > > > > > house while good planets are in the 2nd and 10th, > the > > > > > duties are > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > carelessly or indifferently without proper > attention > > > and > > > > > this may > > > > > > > > > > generally bring loss of children since 5th > represents > > > > > children. If > > > > > > > > > > malefics occupy 2nd while benefics join the 5th and > > > 10th > > > > > houses, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > evil has issued out of words, which may bring about > > > loss of > > > > > money > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > 2nd represents money. If these malefic are in > > > debilitation > > > > > or > > > > > > > occupy > > > > > > > > > > inimical places or combust, they cause intense > evil. If > > > > > benefics > > > > > > > > are in > > > > > > > > > > exaltation, in own or friendly houses, the good > they > > > give > > > > > will > > > > > > > > also be > > > > > > > > > > great. On the contrary, if malefics are exalted and > if > > > > > benefics > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > debilitated, their effects will be little. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Examples of Angry Planets > > > > > > > > > > Example I > > > > > > > > > > Libra-lagna, Venus; Capricorn-Moon; Aquarius- > Jupiter; > > > > > Pisces- > > > > > > > > Saturn; > > > > > > > > > > Leo- Mercury, Mars, Sun; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the above chart, the birth lagna is Libra. Lord > of > > > lagna > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > lagna Libra itself. Therefore counting 4 signs from > > > Libra > > > > > (as per > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > exception) the Arudha lagna is Capricorn counting 4 > > > signs > > > > > from > > > > > > > Libra. > > > > > > > > > > Sun is in Leo and therefore the Veedhi rasi is > Aries. > > > > > Aurdha lagna > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > birth lagna is 10 signs and then counting 10 signs > from > > > > > Veedhi > > > > > > > > rasi of > > > > > > > > > > Aries , the Chathra rasi is Capricorn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Capricorn, the benefic Mercury > is > > > in > > > > > Leo in > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > > and the malefics Rahu and Ketu are in 10th and 4th. > The > > > > > other > > > > > > > > benefics > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter, Venus, Moon are in 2nd, 10th and 1st and > the > > > other > > > > > > > malefics > > > > > > > > > > Saturn, mars, Sun are in 3rd, 8th from Chathra rasi > of > > > > > Capricorn. > > > > > > > > > > Therefore the Angry Planets due to Gods' wrath are > > > Mercury, > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna of Capricorn, again the angry > planets > > > due > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > Brahmins' wrath are Mercury, Rahu and Ketu. Again > from > > > Moon > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > Capricorn, the angry planets due to enemies' wrath > are > > > > > Mercury, > > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > > > and Ketu. From birth lagna of Libra, Rahu and Ketu > are > > > in > > > > > 7th and > > > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > > > > and hence the angry planets due to Public wrath are > > > Rahu > > > > > and Ketu > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > other benefic planets Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury > are > > > in > > > > > 1st, > > > > > > > 4th, > > > > > > > > > > 5th, and 11th and the other malefic planets Saturn, > > > Mars > > > > > and Sun > > > > > > > > are in > > > > > > > > > > 6th and 11th houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are the Angry planets > for > > > this > > > > > > > horoscope > > > > > > > > > > due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, Enemies and > Public > > > in > > > > > previous > > > > > > > > life, > > > > > > > > > > which would give sufferings in present life as per > > > their > > > > > placement > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > signification in the birth chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Example II > > > > > > > > > > Cancer-Lagna; Scorpio- Rahu; Capricorn- Moon, > > > Mars,Mercury; > > > > > > > Aquarius- > > > > > > > > > > Sun; Pisces-Jupiter, Venus; Taurus-Ketu; Gemini- > Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The birth lagna is Cancer. The Arudha lagna is > Aries > > > > > counting 10 > > > > > > > > signs > > > > > > > > > > from cancer as per exception. The Veedhi rasi is > Gemini > > > > > since Sun > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > Aquarius. Arudha lagna to birth lagna is 4 signs > and > > > then > > > > > counting > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > signs from Veedhi rasi of Gemini, the Chathra rasi > id > > > Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chathra rasi of Virgo, the malefics Mars, Ketu > and > > > > > Saturn are > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > 5th, 9th and 10th and therefore the angry planets > due > > > to > > > > > Gods' > > > > > > > wrath > > > > > > > > > > are Mars, Saturn and Ketu. Since the benefics Moon, > > > Jupiter > > > > > and > > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > > > are in 5th, 7th from Chathra rasi of Virgo and the > > > other > > > > > malefics > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Sun are 3rd and 6th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Arudha lagna, the benefics Jupiter and Venus > are > > > in > > > > > the 12th > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > the malefic Mars is in 10th. Hence the angry > planets > > > due to > > > > > > > Brahmins' > > > > > > > > > > wrath are Jupiter, Venus and Mars, since other > benefics > > > > > Moon and > > > > > > > > > > Mercury are in the 10th and the other malefics > Saturn, > > > Rahu > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Sun are > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd, 8th and 11th from Arudha lagna of Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Moon in Capricorn, themalefics Mars and Ketu > are > > > in > > > > > 1st and > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > > houses. The other malefics Sun, Saturn and Rahu are > in > > > 2nd, > > > > > 6th > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > 11th and the benefics Moon, Jupiter and Venus are > in > > > 1st > > > > > and 3rd > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > Moon. Therefore the angry planets due to the > enemies' > > > wrath > > > > > are > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > > and Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From birth lagna of Cancer, the malefics Rahu and > Mars > > > are > > > > > in the > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > > and 7th houses. The other malefics Sun, Ketu and > Saturn > > > are > > > > > in > > > > > > > 8th, > > > > > > > > > > 11th and 12th houses and the benefics Moon, > Mercury, > > > > > Jupiter and > > > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > > > are in 7th and 9th from birth lagna of Cancer. > > > Therefore > > > > > the angry > > > > > > > > > > planets due to people wrath are Mars and Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Ketu, Venus, Mars > and > > > > > Rahu are > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > angry planets due to curses from Gods, Brahmins, > > > Enemies and > > > > > > > > Public in > > > > > > > > > > previous life as per their placement and > significations > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remedial Measures > > > > > > > > > > After finding the angry planets due to various > causes > > > as > > > > > mentioned > > > > > > > > > > above, the remedial measures are to be done to > those > > > angry > > > > > planets > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > doing concerned pujas, by giving concerned > charities, > > > by > > > > > praying > > > > > > > > > > concerned Gods etc. For example, if Sun is the > angry > > > > > planet, the > > > > > > > > > > remedial measures may be puja to Sun, charities of > > > wheat, > > > > > ruby, > > > > > > > > praying > > > > > > > > > > Lord Shiva etc. Details of remedial measures are > not > > > given > > > > > here > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > it is totally a different subject and readers are > > > requested > > > > > to > > > > > > > > refer to > > > > > > > > > > books and articles on remedial measures or consult > a > > > > > knowledgeable > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > reliable astrologer or priest of their faith and > choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conclusion > > > > > > > > > > Since the sins committed in past life are carried > > > forward > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > present life, the human being suffers in the > present > > > life. > > > > > One > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > find out those sins committed in the past life and > the > > > > > concerned > > > > > > > > angry > > > > > > > > > > planets. Suitable remedial measures are to be done > to > > > those > > > > > angry > > > > > > > > > > planets to lessen the evil effects in this present > > > life. > > > > > Also > > > > > > > > suitable > > > > > > > > > > care is to be taken in this life not to do any > further > > > evil > > > > > to > > > > > > > Gods, > > > > > > > > > > Brahmins, Enemies and Public by Thought, Word and > Deed > > > to > > > > > avoid > > > > > > > > > > suffering from any curse or wrath from them in the > next > > > > > life. Thus > > > > > > > > > > nullifying all the bad karma in due course by > > > completing > > > > > the good > > > > > > > > Karma > > > > > > > > > > also, one can attain Salvation without Rebirth. The > > > basis > > > > > for this > > > > > > > > > > article is from the Prasna Sastra of Kerala > extending > > > to > > > > > Natal > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives > > > answers, > > > > > not > > > > > > > > web links. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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