Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dear Friends, Whenever you happen to see a Chart with the Planet Saturn positioned in the 5th , just observe whether the native had a late marriage, cause,from being positioned in the 5th, Saturn has aspect over, the 7th House,the 1tth house, and also the 2nd house, all important houses for marriage. This apparent simple placement has got major implications for the auspicious event in the life of the native. regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 This principle doesn't seem to hold in practise, although theoretically sound. The strengh of the karak - Venus - overides this indicaiton easily, but the stronger impact should be on finances. Note that the 8th(2nd from 7th), 3rd (9th from 7th) and 1st (7th from 7th) would remain unblemished when Saturn is in the 5th - subject of course to other configurations in the chart. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Whenever you happen to see a Chart with the > Planet Saturn positioned in the 5th , just > observe whether the native had a late marriage, > cause,from being positioned in the 5th, Saturn > has aspect over, the 7th House,the 1tth > house, and also the 2nd house, all important > houses for marriage. This apparent simple > placement has got major implications for > the auspicious event in the life of the native. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Good to see You writing after a long period. I was missing you among few others like Sri Satya ji and Bharat Bhai who also writes less nowadays. I agree, not only the karaka Venus, but also the Dasha Lord running,around the age of marriage, and Saturns Ownerships of the houses, in a particular chart, alongwith his friendship, neutrality and enemity with the Lords of 2nd 7th and the 11th matter. What I mentioned was a general observation, to grasp quickly when one is watching a chart......... , " atma_gnan " <atma_gnan wrote: > > > This principle doesn't seem to hold in practise, although > theoretically sound. > The strengh of the karak - Venus - overides this indicaiton easily, > but the stronger impact should be on finances. Note that the 8th(2nd > from 7th), 3rd (9th from 7th) and 1st (7th from 7th) would remain > unblemished when Saturn is in the 5th - subject of course to other > configurations in the chart. > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Whenever you happen to see a Chart with the > > Planet Saturn positioned in the 5th , just > > observe whether the native had a late marriage, > > cause,from being positioned in the 5th, Saturn > > has aspect over, the 7th House,the 1tth > > house, and also the 2nd house, all important > > houses for marriage. This apparent simple > > placement has got major implications for > > the auspicious event in the life of the native. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji, yes i have 2 charts for such cases, but people can find other reasons too for the late marriage cases in them. But yes saturn logically is one of the planet for late marriage. Warm Regards, Tarun , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Whenever you happen to see a Chart with the > Planet Saturn positioned in the 5th , just > observe whether the native had a late marriage, > cause,from being positioned in the 5th, Saturn > has aspect over, the 7th House,the 1tth > house, and also the 2nd house, all important > houses for marriage. This apparent simple > placement has got major implications for > the auspicious event in the life of the native. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dear Tarunji, Yes,the primary factor for late marriage remains Saturn in all cases. 1) 7th SubLord Connected with Saturn. 2) 7th SubLord in Fixed or barren sign 3) Saturn in 5th sign. all above would give late or Delayed Marriage. The Karaka venus only shows whether Marriage is available or not available for the native. It cannot show early or late marriage. regards, Bhaskar. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > yes i have 2 charts for such cases, but people can find other reasons > too for the late marriage cases in them. > > But yes saturn logically is one of the planet for late marriage. > > Warm Regards, > > Tarun > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Whenever you happen to see a Chart with the > > Planet Saturn positioned in the 5th , just > > observe whether the native had a late marriage, > > cause,from being positioned in the 5th, Saturn > > has aspect over, the 7th House,the 1tth > > house, and also the 2nd house, all important > > houses for marriage. This apparent simple > > placement has got major implications for > > the auspicious event in the life of the native. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Just off the top of my head I can recall at least 5 charts with Saturn in 5th who have had a normal marriage(no delay). This may seem rather counter-intutive, but I have observed that Jupiter in 7th house causes a far greater delay. Add Rahu here and severe challenges can be predicted. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Good to see You writing after a long period. > I was missing you among few others like Sri > Satya ji and Bharat Bhai who also writes less > nowadays. > > I agree, not only the karaka Venus, but also > the Dasha Lord running,around the age of marriage, > and Saturns Ownerships of the houses, in a particular > chart, alongwith his friendship, neutrality and enemity > with the Lords of 2nd 7th and the 11th matter. > > What I mentioned was a general observation, to grasp > quickly when one is watching a chart......... > > > , " atma_gnan " <atma_gnan@> wrote: > > > > > > This principle doesn't seem to hold in practise, although > > theoretically sound. > > The strengh of the karak - Venus - overides this indicaiton easily, > > but the stronger impact should be on finances. Note that the 8th (2nd > > from 7th), 3rd (9th from 7th) and 1st (7th from 7th) would remain > > unblemished when Saturn is in the 5th - subject of course to other > > configurations in the chart. > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Whenever you happen to see a Chart with the > > > Planet Saturn positioned in the 5th , just > > > observe whether the native had a late marriage, > > > cause,from being positioned in the 5th, Saturn > > > has aspect over, the 7th House,the 1tth > > > house, and also the 2nd house, all important > > > houses for marriage. This apparent simple > > > placement has got major implications for > > > the auspicious event in the life of the native. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I know at least 5 people with Jupiter in 5 who have had children including myself. And my wife too has Jupiter in 5. We have 2 children. I know at least 9 people witrh short life line (Less than half of the normal length, who are still living beyond 50. But yet rules are rules. We talk about majority and not about the minute minority. You may have met only the luckier couples who have married early.I am doing at least 10 charts daily,professionally and most of them related to marriage problems, so get a exposure to see these configurations, at close quarters. anyway lets assume what you say is right and close this thread for the time being......... , " atma_gnan " <atma_gnan wrote: > > Just off the top of my head I can recall at least 5 charts with > Saturn in 5th who have had a normal marriage(no delay). > > This may seem rather counter-intutive, but I have observed that > Jupiter in 7th house causes a far greater delay. Add Rahu here and > severe challenges can be predicted. > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Good to see You writing after a long period. > > I was missing you among few others like Sri > > Satya ji and Bharat Bhai who also writes less > > nowadays. > > > > I agree, not only the karaka Venus, but also > > the Dasha Lord running,around the age of marriage, > > and Saturns Ownerships of the houses, in a particular > > chart, alongwith his friendship, neutrality and enemity > > with the Lords of 2nd 7th and the 11th matter. > > > > What I mentioned was a general observation, to grasp > > quickly when one is watching a chart......... > > > > > > , " atma_gnan " <atma_gnan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > This principle doesn't seem to hold in practise, although > > > theoretically sound. > > > The strengh of the karak - Venus - overides this indicaiton > easily, > > > but the stronger impact should be on finances. Note that the 8th > (2nd > > > from 7th), 3rd (9th from 7th) and 1st (7th from 7th) would remain > > > unblemished when Saturn is in the 5th - subject of course to > other > > > configurations in the chart. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Whenever you happen to see a Chart with the > > > > Planet Saturn positioned in the 5th , just > > > > observe whether the native had a late marriage, > > > > cause,from being positioned in the 5th, Saturn > > > > has aspect over, the 7th House,the 1tth > > > > house, and also the 2nd house, all important > > > > houses for marriage. This apparent simple > > > > placement has got major implications for > > > > the auspicious event in the life of the native. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 In the meanwhile it would be kind of you, if you can explain the logic- a) Why Saturn in 5th and still marriage is early ? b) Why Jupiter in the 7th and still delayed marriage ? I believe above can happen, but we are talking of normal rules, at the moment, in that context, you may please explain. regards, Bhaskar. , " atma_gnan " <atma_gnan wrote: > > Just off the top of my head I can recall at least 5 charts with > Saturn in 5th who have had a normal marriage(no delay). > > This may seem rather counter-intutive, but I have observed that > Jupiter in 7th house causes a far greater delay. Add Rahu here and > severe challenges can be predicted. > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Good to see You writing after a long period. > > I was missing you among few others like Sri > > Satya ji and Bharat Bhai who also writes less > > nowadays. > > > > I agree, not only the karaka Venus, but also > > the Dasha Lord running,around the age of marriage, > > and Saturns Ownerships of the houses, in a particular > > chart, alongwith his friendship, neutrality and enemity > > with the Lords of 2nd 7th and the 11th matter. > > > > What I mentioned was a general observation, to grasp > > quickly when one is watching a chart......... > > > > > > , " atma_gnan " <atma_gnan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > This principle doesn't seem to hold in practise, although > > > theoretically sound. > > > The strengh of the karak - Venus - overides this indicaiton > easily, > > > but the stronger impact should be on finances. Note that the 8th > (2nd > > > from 7th), 3rd (9th from 7th) and 1st (7th from 7th) would remain > > > unblemished when Saturn is in the 5th - subject of course to > other > > > configurations in the chart. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Whenever you happen to see a Chart with the > > > > Planet Saturn positioned in the 5th , just > > > > observe whether the native had a late marriage, > > > > cause,from being positioned in the 5th, Saturn > > > > has aspect over, the 7th House,the 1tth > > > > house, and also the 2nd house, all important > > > > houses for marriage. This apparent simple > > > > placement has got major implications for > > > > the auspicious event in the life of the native. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > Yes,the primary factor for late marriage remains > Saturn in all cases. > > 1) 7th SubLord Connected with Saturn. > 2) 7th SubLord in Fixed or barren sign > 3) Saturn in 5th sign. > > all above would give late or Delayed Marriage. > The Karaka venus only shows whether Marriage is > available or not available for the native. > It cannot show early or late marriage. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > Dear Bhaskar, I have shani in 12 retrograde and is aspect my 5 bhava with retrograde aspect and he is in conjuction with mangal who also have aspect on my 5 bhava. Shani aspect my 5 lord guru from 12 bhava also. > Did that combination work also in such case? regards, ashwini > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > yes i have 2 charts for such cases, but people can find other reasons > > too for the late marriage cases in them. > > > > But yes saturn logically is one of the planet for late marriage. > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Whenever you happen to see a Chart with the > > > Planet Saturn positioned in the 5th , just > > > observe whether the native had a late marriage, > > > cause,from being positioned in the 5th, Saturn > > > has aspect over, the 7th House,the 1tth > > > house, and also the 2nd house, all important > > > houses for marriage. This apparent simple > > > placement has got major implications for > > > the auspicious event in the life of the native. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Dear Ashwini, We are not talking of 5th Bhava being aspected, but the 7th being aspected. Therefore you need not worry. regards, Bhaskar. , " ashwinikumaras " <ashwinikumaras wrote: Dear Bhaskar, I have shani in 12 retrograde and is aspect my 5 bhava with retrograde aspect and he is in conjuction with mangal who also have aspect on my 5 bhava. Shani aspect my 5 lord guru from 12 bhava also. > Did that combination work also in such case? > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > Yes,the primary factor for late marriage remains > > Saturn in all cases. > > > > 1) 7th SubLord Connected with Saturn. > > 2) 7th SubLord in Fixed or barren sign > > 3) Saturn in 5th sign. > > > > all above would give late or Delayed Marriage. > > The Karaka venus only shows whether Marriage is > > available or not available for the native. > > It cannot show early or late marriage. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, I have shani in 12 retrograde and is aspect my 5 bhava > with retrograde aspect and he is in conjuction with mangal who also > have aspect on my 5 bhava. > Shani aspect my 5 lord guru from 12 bhava also. > > Did that combination work also in such case? > > regards, > ashwini > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > yes i have 2 charts for such cases, but people can find other reasons > > > too for the late marriage cases in them. > > > > > > But yes saturn logically is one of the planet for late marriage. > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Whenever you happen to see a Chart with the > > > > Planet Saturn positioned in the 5th , just > > > > observe whether the native had a late marriage, > > > > cause,from being positioned in the 5th, Saturn > > > > has aspect over, the 7th House,the 1tth > > > > house, and also the 2nd house, all important > > > > houses for marriage. This apparent simple > > > > placement has got major implications for > > > > the auspicious event in the life of the native. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Ashwini, > > We are not talking of 5th Bhava being aspected, > but the 7th being aspected. Therefore you need > not worry. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , " ashwinikumaras " > <ashwinikumaras@> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, I have shani in 12 retrograde and is aspect my 5 bhava > with retrograde aspect and he is in conjuction with mangal who also > have aspect on my 5 bhava. > Shani aspect my 5 lord guru from 12 bhava also. > > Did that combination work also in such case? > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > Yes,the primary factor for late marriage remains > > > Saturn in all cases. > > > > > > 1) 7th SubLord Connected with Saturn. > > > 2) 7th SubLord in Fixed or barren sign > > > 3) Saturn in 5th sign. > > > > > > all above would give late or Delayed Marriage. > > > The Karaka venus only shows whether Marriage is > > > available or not available for the native. > > > It cannot show early or late marriage. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, I have shani in 12 retrograde and is aspect my 5 bhava > > with retrograde aspect and he is in conjuction with mangal who also > > have aspect on my 5 bhava. > > Shani aspect my 5 lord guru from 12 bhava also. > > > Did that combination work also in such case? > > > > regards, > > ashwini > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > yes i have 2 charts for such cases, but people can find other > reasons > > > > too for the late marriage cases in them. > > > > > > > > But yes saturn logically is one of the planet for late marriage. > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > Whenever you happen to see a Chart with the > > > > > Planet Saturn positioned in the 5th , just > > > > > observe whether the native had a late marriage, > > > > > cause,from being positioned in the 5th, Saturn > > > > > has aspect over, the 7th House,the 1tth > > > > > house, and also the 2nd house, all important > > > > > houses for marriage. This apparent simple > > > > > placement has got major implications for > > > > > the auspicious event in the life of the native. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and sorry for misunderstanding question. regards, ashwini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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