Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Dear sunil ji, The lal kitab also says that the jatak will have eye trouble if mercury is placed in the 10th house only if the 8th house is 'manda' [ malefic ] and the 2nd house is occupied by a malefic. It says " dono ankhon se har do jahan mein dukhiya kar dega " ... will make him miserable in the world because of both the eyes. I do not know whether you would accept the logic of the Lal Kitab or not, nevertheless, the 10th house is associated with Saturn [ makar rasi of cardinal or kalpurush kundali]. The saturn is considered the karak of sight [ nazar] in lal Kitab. Mercury is the karak of the nerves [ lal kitab ] therefore the mercury in the 10th house along with a malefic 8th house could cause problems in opticle nerves and hence eye trouble. The aspect on the 2nd house of a malefic placed in the 8th will trigger the disease. Lal Kitab believes that the 8th house acts as a trigger for any disease. With regards, RP Singh , " jjnet2000_in " <jjnet2000_in wrote: > > Om Datta Guru > Dear Bhaskar Bhai, > Very kind of u. > > Though i was thinking today to leave this group as its the last group i > write in and feel computers are effecting me badly i thought i would ask > you and the list one last question as i have not been able to grasp it > > Sukar Nadi says > " Mer in 10H makes one have eye problems'' > > > Query: I am unable to find the exact reason I tried various options but > just not able to find anything convincing enough > > If you can help me out i would be obliged > > best wishes > > Sunil John > Mumbai > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil John ji, > > > > That was a beautiful and kind reply from you. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " suniljohn_2002 " > > suniljohn_2002@ wrote: > > > > > > Om Datta Guru > > > Dear Sunil > > > Thanks for ur kind mail. My reply below as SJ > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna. > > > > > > > > dear sunil . > > > > > > > > Nothing to worry abt ,as a discussion two parties are > discussing > > > in a > > > > healthy laungage and i always respect the other party ,only > limitation > > > > is my command over the laungage -english > > > SJ: dont worry sunil even my english is no great. > > > > > > > > U know other wise how we r committed each other ,in future also > in > > > > discussions no body can maitain same views and shud not also > unless > > > some > > > > one is convinced . > > > > SJ: thats true both of us or any two people do not have same > brains, > > > so we need not agree on things. Forums i feel are not for making > others > > > agree to ones views rather to share methods & bring new light on > topics > > > which would enable all. Most unfortunately take forums as > kurukshetras > > > for one man upship. > > > > > > > I take up the tread beacuse this is a discussion group and i > want > > > every > > > > one to particiapte .And may expand the knowledge base .U know this > > > > discussion atleast brought out in reality there is differrence in > > > > degrees of nakshatras and rasis which many highly educated > jyothish > > > > students doesnot know . > > > > SJ: yes atleast this discussion brought out that lengths of naks > are > > > different, something 2 -3 yrs back also i had approached here and > even > > > then i found out that nobody had explored this further so even then > my > > > attempt at understanding it further was not achieved. Now i find all > old > > > members are gone and only new members write here. As for the entry > into > > > any thread, yes its an open forum but i try to follow one principle > > > (though not to the best of ability) which is i do not enter a thread > > > where I do not have sufficient knowledge or have gone into all > aspects > > > of it otherwise i could commit the sin of misleading someone. > > > > > > Let me give an example of why i keep my trap shut in most of the > topics. > > > Last year i started talking to my mentor on Kalachakra Dasa, in 2 > secs > > > he retorted that he would discuss it only if i have enough knowledge > on > > > it otherwise he would not discuss it at all. He was most rude in his > > > saying, i realise it now why, since for 10 yrs of his life he had > > > studied only kalachakra dasa from every possible books plus > traveling > > > all over india meeting the unknown experts on it. So one lesson i am > > > trying to learn from my mentor even now is never talk in any jyotish > > > discussion unless one knows things indepth but unfortunately Jyotish > is > > > so so huge & so hidden that after decades a person one day realises > that > > > he knows nothing in any topic of jyotish > > > > > > Must go > > > > > > Kind regards > > > Sunil > > > > Thanks and regrds > > > > > > > > sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > > > > > pt.sunilnair@ <pt.sunilnair@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jjnet2000_in " jjnet2000_in@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Om Datta Guru > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > I feel sad writing this mail > > > > > > > > > > > ,but offcourse new theoreys welcome ,but dont ask me to learn > it > > > and > > > > > try > > > > > > it ,if any body can come out with proper results then i may > change > > > > my > > > > > > mind as i am ordinary human who may hav a life span of 70 or > more > > > or > > > > > > less, and i dont hav time to finish all theoreys in this life > time > > > . > > > > > > > > > > SJ: I am not asking u to learn it nor did i ask anyone to learn > it, > > > I > > > > > had posed a query if Ashwini had read this work by P S Sastri > then I > > > > > would like to learn it, NOT YOU. Pls understand this, i am > repeating > > > > in > > > > > this mail also that i did not want you or anyone to learn it, it > is > > > > you > > > > > who jumped in this thread I did not ask u to come in the thread > > > > thereby > > > > > i did not ask u to learn it nor do i ask anyone to learn > anything in > > > > > life since I like to do Jyotish my way which is exploration way, > for > > > > me > > > > > Jyotish is a Journey and for me Jyotish is Not Predictions Only. > > > > > > > > > > But I do not want anyone to believe in this Journey concept nor > > > would > > > > > force it down their throat, if Jyotish makes me frustrated its > the > > > > > Talibanists of Jyotish who believe that their way is the only > way > > > > which > > > > > I believe has spoilt Jyotish from the Infinite Creativity (God) > > > within > > > > > Jyotish. This aspect I keep on voicing once in a while on lists > as i > > > > > feel dutibound to spread this cause as during my younger days > here > > > > there > > > > > was only one woman from this very list a student of Chakrapani > Ullal > > > > who > > > > > warned me but i did not take heed to her advice , so i feel it > is my > > > > > dutibound karma that i should warn the younger students of > jyotish > > > > > against the Fundamentalist approach towards Jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry did not read ur full mail as I just do not have time > to > > > > > respond to long mails, today is holiday and Jyotish studies for > me & > > > > not > > > > > internet devotion > > > > > > > > > > best > > > > > SJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna, > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sunil, > > > > > > > > > > > > And did he show the methods to predict in book also,or u try > and > > > > > see > > > > > > how it is possible in phalit jyothish . > > > > > > > > > > > > I am following the major school of astro and i am satisfied > with > > > > > > results and your question abt predicting marriage month i am > doing > > > > it > > > > > > for my professional customers and satisfactorily (at least > > > marriage > > > > > time > > > > > > and many other aspects of life are still under reserch and i > am > > > sure > > > > > > with our simple methods i can get atleast 80% of results) > > > > > > > > > > > > ,but offcourse new theoreys welcome ,but dont ask me to learn > it > > > and > > > > > try > > > > > > it ,if any body can come out with proper results then i may > change > > > > my > > > > > > mind as i am ordinary human who may hav a life span of 70 or > more > > > or > > > > > > less, and i dont hav time to finish all theoreys in this life > time > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > Any way thanks for sharing the information . > > > > > > > > > > > > Befor also one year back ,one western astrologer was after me > with > > > > > rasi > > > > > > lenght ,instead of our 30 degree arc he was saying diffeerent > on > > > > each > > > > > > rasi and each nakshatra and i told him the same thing ,yes he > is > > > > > correct > > > > > > .But how can we ordinary mortals fix it to phalit the back > born of > > > > > > astrology .I find K P people are using with a bigger rasi with > > > cusps > > > > > > ,but i am not aware of kp principles thoroughly as i blv if i > can > > > > giv > > > > > > quality time only then i will go to any subjuct. > > > > > > > > > > > > As for me all planets or rasis or nakshatras are only > indicaters > > > of > > > > > our > > > > > > past life deeds and some total of our karmas and which we must > > > enjoy > > > > > or > > > > > > suffer in this janma .Means only indicaters and not givers on > > > their > > > > > own > > > > > > --so how many degrees they physicaly need not bother me as > long as > > > i > > > > > am > > > > > > happy with results. > > > > > > > > > > > > so planets r like a sign board only ,actualy the sign board > saying > > > > > delhi > > > > > > is not delhi itself --so it is the basis of my talibanisation > and > > > > > > dogmatic approach . > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > > > > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > > > > > > > > > pt.sunilnair@ <pt.sunilnair@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jjnet2000_in " > jjnet2000_in@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM Datta Guru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Siddhanta Siromani Quote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pg 185 Text book of Scientific Hindu Astrology – By > > > P.S.Sastri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Pls note Pg 183 he mentions about the equator & Lat in this > > > > context > > > > > > > which is not reproduced here) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) Extension of Constellations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each constellation is said to extend upto 13.20' at a > uniform > > > > rate. > > > > > > > This is a Gross (sthula) or general Estimate as stated by > our > > > > > > ancients. > > > > > > > They have given the subtle (sukshma) or real extension for > each > > > > > > > constellation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The constellations are divided into adyarthabhoga, > arthabhoga > > > and > > > > > > > ekabhoga stars The first have longer arcs the last have > equal > > > > > > extension > > > > > > > and the second have smaller arcs. The effects of these are > > > > explained > > > > > > > specially in the context of an enquiry into Argha. In the > > > > > > Spashtadhikara > > > > > > > (shlokas 71 to 75) of his Siddhanta Siromani Bhaskara stats > that > > > > > > > according to the seers like Vasishta, the subtle extensions > are > > > > > > relevant > > > > > > > in connection with Marriages, pilgrimages, travels and the > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohini, Punarvasu, Vishaka, Uttarashada, Uttaraphalguni and > > > > > > Uttarbhadra > > > > > > > have each an extension of 19 deg 45' 52'' (SJ: Not 13.20') > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bharana, Arda, Ashlesha, Jyestha, swati and Satabhisha have > each > > > > an > > > > > > > extent of 6deg35'17'' only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The remaining constellations have each an arc of 13 deg > 10'35'' > > > > > > > (SJ: not 13deg 20 pls note) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abhijit is spread over the remaining space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The above is typed from P.S.Sastri's book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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