Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Dear Learned members, When Saturn transits over natal Sun, or its trines, it is said by the Nadi texts that some evil in form of serious health setback would fall on the Native, or his Father, or some elder Male member of the family. I would like to ask the Learned members, when Saturn transits over the Natal Mars, then shall we translate the above principle into Mars-signifying brother ? Or shall we take the Lordships which Mars has in the horoscope and interpret that way ? Also what happens when Saturn transits natal Rahu ? regards, bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hare rama krishna , respected bhaskarji , Pranams to u . Thanks for the encouraging words ,Yes all will be little scared when the transits going bad along with dasas like rahu. As far as controlling the malicious posts and provocations ,i dont think we can actualy do any thing as all this are shadows and they hide under the cover of various mail ids and one way they show a good face and all other ids will be utilised for character assassinations of whom they feel a treat or if u fail to serve them free 24 x 7 .So i think its better to avoid and leave it to the course of actions to destiny . Yesterday while talking to an american frnd of mine he told me abt the behaviour of indians whom claimes longest traditions and sanatan dharma and spirituality and all wants free meals and at highest peak of selfishness .He was very concerned as he wanted to born in in india in next birth being a ISCKON devotee .U know why astrology and many other sciences ( even i read we hav missile science and vimana sastra in past) destroyed is not only because of agressions but because of this kind of suedo attitudes all want and expect others to serve them free in there plates and if possible daily ,one swamiji told me in his ashram they wont serve any free meals except on first day -as guests and next day onwards u hav to do some seva and get whatever u want or else they can donate a good amount to ashram as they are into so many activities .No free entertained there so no problems like some ppl dominating there and making problems ,In the name of close sisya or senior sisya like this in other ashrams .Vedic astro groups are only a reflections of our mind of soceity --Yatha mana:stithi: thatha paristithi: --our mind is creating the environment. Any way we just avoid and pls carry on our mission or role what ever is god entrusted with us . Only trees with fruits has to bear the trowing of stones at it . all the best to u charan sparsh sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna, > > Dear Sunilji, > > Thanks very much for your kind re-post on the > matter.I confess there is some fear in me, which > as a normal human being does exist, but again, > I have the good wishes from kind well wishers > like you and the natives who have blessed me > for reading their charts. Primarily I believe > in Lord Krishna and Sri Hanumanji, who I think > know whats best for us, so I leave the ultimate > worry to them,and hope for good. > > I have my Vimsamsa in mind. And I would get > down to activation of same, with Gods grace, > after 6 months time, when I would be free > of some major filial duties. > > Retaliation to provokers I never enjoy, > because it also soils some part of me, till > again the dirt is erased by more religious > or pious action.Which is why I request all the > members to join together when this happens, > or stop the thread by request, if they know > that this would be the eventual result, or > may be likely to happen . > No member should be allowed > to be soiled, and the person provocating > should be dealt with sternly. This is the > collective and social responsibility. We > cannot just walk away as silent and > inactive witnesses, who enjoyed the crime > being committed. We owe a social > responsibility.As astrologers we have to be > better and more spiritually stronger than > the common men walking on the road. > > Presently there is lot of concentration of > important planets in and near Leo, and also > in constellations of Ketu. > > lets wait and see what happens ....... > we have no choice any way....... > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > respected bhaskarji . > > > > The degree wise position is alarming but if u see jupiter the deva > > ,brahmana,mantra karaka and signification of blessing from god in a > > chart is going to change its position and it will be aspecting this > > combinations .so relief will be there to great extent . > > > > And main problem is coming is from transit of mars and ketu (the > great > > negeter and tail of a pipe which acting from past life) over this combo > > ,and it will be moving out from this area by april ,may period so the > > sign of complete relief u can expect from that period .Now even moon the > > karaka for mind is also coming under its influence . > > > > U know nodes it has power to afflict any body and nadis treat > them > > with fear only .But jupiter is coming to save u and he will be little > > helpless till the ketu moves out . > > > > U can expect good things in life ,and a change is happening ,but dasa of > > rahu will be for 18 years and slowly only it will release what it has > > devoured in past .U know better > > > > > So be patient and dont panic--i know no astrologer can judge balancely > > his own chart ,like no doctor can treat himself ,also i request u to > > reduce the retaliation to people those who wanted to provoke u and enjoy > > and when in angry we r not very good to watch at .I know i hav no > > authority to tell u .And i am also bad when provoked .U remeber u r > > vimshamsa (spiritual progress) we discussed privately and now its time > > for your such activites also which will be fruitified in future . > > > > > > > > sorry if i step out of my limits > > > > charan sparsh > > > > sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > pt.sunilnair@ <pt.sunilnair@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sri Sunilji, and Tarunji, > > > > > > I am having Saturn transiting over My > > > Natal Mars and Rahu , both at 6 degrees in > > > Leo. Today Saturn is at 4.30 degrees. I was > > > wondering what would be the results and when > > > would it fructify . Hence the query to You > > > all. Personally I am waiting for it cross > > > over to 9 degrees,and further, before I > > > breath a sigh of relief. Any comments ? > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hare rama krishna dear tarunji yes it is true ,i was never anwering the chart as a whole and his question was saturns movement over natal planets . result will always modify with other planets in your kundali and transits ,it includes lord ships .karakatwas and other significations like even placement .every transit it is acting along with dasa ,its like 3 hands in clock ,dasa transits and ashtavarga or divisional charts together shud be taken into accounts and in nadis the nadiamsa of each plnets and lagna. And do u think any body can analyse transit in its full effect as moon is moving from one rasi to another in 21/4 days. Even i hav mars and rahu in my chart and sani moved over it ,but rasi was differrent ,u know i had a fire at home after completly rewiring the house ,and the new wire caught fire when power came after powercuts and every day i had some losses or cheating .Most of the time either power bills or some bills always getting inflated and finaly has to pay ,even i complained my elecric meter and replaced it 3 times in last one year ..For me nothing happened to brother ,but as an astrologer every day i was being harassed and utilised by our spiritual and High class indians ,once at the insistance of i put a advt in their promotional drive and got 1000s of free requests from well placed indians all over world and finaly i hav to put into automation and requesting all to come tru another mail if ready to pay ,yes what happened ,they read mails and offcourse come tru other mails for free reading .Answering mails --not giving reading and chats all was realy took my lot of energy and what can u do when 15 ppls coming in 5 minits with free reuests pinging in chat and even the chat which u doing mistyped many times or the message is going to other windows and they think its answer to there queries. thanks and regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Just let it cross the natal rahu, then no problem in my view. > > Mars is a general planet and i dont think it causes accidents to > brothers or so. > > if this is so then those persons who have mars-saturn opposite or > conjuct will always have accidents etc... > > i haave mars in gemini, and saturn had already transitted over it. > > Nothing happened to me, even mars is 8th and 3rd lord for me. > > And since it is yoga karak for you. then i donot think it can give > anyting bad. > > yes frustration can be there. > > Just chill out and Relax. > > Warm Regards, > > Tarun > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna, > > > > Dear Sunilji, > > > > Thanks very much for your kind re-post on the > > matter.I confess there is some fear in me, which > > as a normal human being does exist, but again, > > I have the good wishes from kind well wishers > > like you and the natives who have blessed me > > for reading their charts. Primarily I believe > > in Lord Krishna and Sri Hanumanji, who I think > > know whats best for us, so I leave the ultimate > > worry to them,and hope for good. > > > > I have my Vimsamsa in mind. And I would get > > down to activation of same, with Gods grace, > > after 6 months time, when I would be free > > of some major filial duties. > > > > Retaliation to provokers I never enjoy, > > because it also soils some part of me, till > > again the dirt is erased by more religious > > or pious action.Which is why I request all the > > members to join together when this happens, > > or stop the thread by request, if they know > > that this would be the eventual result, or > > may be likely to happen . > > No member should be allowed > > to be soiled, and the person provocating > > should be dealt with sternly. This is the > > collective and social responsibility. We > > cannot just walk away as silent and > > inactive witnesses, who enjoyed the crime > > being committed. We owe a social > > responsibility.As astrologers we have to be > > better and more spiritually stronger than > > the common men walking on the road. > > > > Presently there is lot of concentration of > > important planets in and near Leo, and also > > in constellations of Ketu. > > > > lets wait and see what happens ....... > > we have no choice any way....... > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > > > respected bhaskarji . > > > > > > The degree wise position is alarming but if u see jupiter > the deva > > > ,brahmana,mantra karaka and signification of blessing from god > in a > > > chart is going to change its position and it will be aspecting > this > > > combinations .so relief will be there to great extent . > > > > > > And main problem is coming is from transit of mars and ketu > (the > > great > > > negeter and tail of a pipe which acting from past life) over > this combo > > > ,and it will be moving out from this area by april ,may period so > the > > > sign of complete relief u can expect from that period .Now even > moon the > > > karaka for mind is also coming under its influence . > > > > > > U know nodes it has power to afflict any body and nadis > treat > > them > > > with fear only .But jupiter is coming to save u and he will be > little > > > helpless till the ketu moves out . > > > > > > U can expect good things in life ,and a change is happening ,but > dasa of > > > rahu will be for 18 years and slowly only it will release what it > has > > > devoured in past .U know better > > > > > > > So be patient and dont panic--i know no astrologer can judge > balancely > > > his own chart ,like no doctor can treat himself ,also i request > u to > > > reduce the retaliation to people those who wanted to provoke u > and enjoy > > > and when in angry we r not very good to watch at .I know i hav no > > > authority to tell u .And i am also bad when provoked .U remeber u > r > > > vimshamsa (spiritual progress) we discussed privately and now > its time > > > for your such activites also which will be fruitified in future . > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry if i step out of my limits > > > > > > charan sparsh > > > > > > sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > pt.sunilnair@ <pt.sunilnair@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Sunilji, and Tarunji, > > > > > > > > I am having Saturn transiting over My > > > > Natal Mars and Rahu , both at 6 degrees in > > > > Leo. Today Saturn is at 4.30 degrees. I was > > > > wondering what would be the results and when > > > > would it fructify . Hence the query to You > > > > all. Personally I am waiting for it cross > > > > over to 9 degrees,and further, before I > > > > breath a sigh of relief. Any comments ? > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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