Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 Tarun Well I have answered these in many cases that model that traditionally given use are the ones u have given one also uses Sarvastavargas, to super impose over transits to get a better picture and shadbalas when there need to get more info when the above r not giving much clues as not always u need a super speciality doctor isn't it. about gods grace sure is a vital part as most classics talks of astrologers as Daivagnya ok we can master many books, but if gods will to help some through us or some else or none one will run always I can give u an example running right now u r aware of the fact we r doing some construction [for nuteral purpouses we used a vastu expert as I can handle it but not all will see it impartially done] later in some apartments i changed some features for convience ones which we will use not our sisters and architect made a mistake in final drawing our experts shyshyas came suddenly and said it is not right u have to break it and re doi it we wanted to check with the expert himself have missed him from 2 weeks now in Bangalore, Hyd sudden programs he is gone I have to get it done as work is pending.... WHY it is not yet time to do it or get his clearance still same way an expert if he gives us an appointment also we may not make it if our karma doesn't want to get such a benefit this is where GOD comes in and we have to face it, accept it we have more karma to burn out about fan mails fake ID's i doubt there r many but some do and it may be naive to do it when it is possible to be detected. well I have been in the net world for over 17 yrs so know the way the system works if people do it it is sad and not only hurts them in long run, will hurt the subject if we see the war in VA list now. since there is no monetary gain in the net world at least one must not indulge in them. if at all there is gain also it by an unfair method will earn sin than money. i never respond to empty praise [name only or name the great] i direct them to the group always if sent to me also on my ID. SAYING MORE PPL WILL ANALYSE UR CASE AND U CAN BENEFIT BETTER if some says something specific will still compliment them for feedback to astrology not me. as we have seen the other side isn't it if people don't get what they want by such posts also rebuke u badly as u see now in VA why is RD suffering so much as he did not give all Lalit wanted. he also gets max praise mails too the risk is there if we get carried away. I use only airtel ADSL network whoever have said what I had predicted has happened are not my fans as most people don't come back this itself is something to get so thank them for feedback that helps the subject. surely u can mail them and check it out on ur own. and I have always given credit to the Rishis for showing the way to us and never gloated over them, failures I will accept more than success as mine as we may fail not the subject. we have to learn every day, we can't say we know this much or all. I entered some groups when next generation astrologers keen to know the subject came to me have guided some, but with so many wars in groups it seems a waste of time, energy we can do the same service by sitting in a temple daily for an hr whatever people want to pay can go to the temple as people must know there is a cost to service, only then they take it seriously. i can guide people on specific areas but no online classes, till my time constraints r there. I HAVE ALSO GUIDED MEMBERS HOW TO TRACK IP's and also check if their pc's r infected say type netstat -n at ur command prompt if u get all IP addresses as establisehed there is no virus if u get TIME_WAT, SYN,WAIT etc a virus exists a sample here Active Connections Proto Local Address Foreign Address State TCP 122.164.100.33:2767 209.85.199.83:80 ESTABLISHED TCP 127.0.0.1:2636 127.0.0.1:2637 ESTABLISHED TCP 127.0.0.1:2637 127.0.0.1:2636 ESTABLISHED TCP 127.0.0.1:2641 127.0.0.1:2642 ESTABLISHED TCP 127.0.0.1:2642 127.0.0.1:2641 ESTABLISHED this virus shows a safe PC as pf today god know it can be best wishes On 8/8/07, Tarun <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Hello Senior Astrologers, > > Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet astrology. > > 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa) > 2. To use Transits too. > 3. Speak by God's grace only. > 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback response by > Native is provided) > > As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails.(one > can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response they can > give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image > > But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for sure > he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this > birth. > > I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please. > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > -- Thank you, Prashantkumar -------- For Consultation charges please write to me -------- G B Prashant Kumar `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street Nandanam Extn, Chennai 600035, INDIA MOBILE 9840051861 TEL 42110983/24340186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 *Om mahaganapataye namah* Dear Bhaskar ji, It will be my pleasure. Kindly allow me time. As soon as work in hand is over I will make humble effort.subject of effects w.r.t Arudha Lagna and Karakamsha Lagna.in itself is a big exercise as Arudh describes about how world views you and reverse of it shows how you look at world around you. Results based on analysis from Karakamsha has dimension in the realm of Spirituality,sex life and future possibilties. Why i am writing this, It is something I will not like to put in public forum for most of it is related to Jaimini and is intimate part of your life.Thus I will need your permission to post reading on your personal ID. with regards. RCS Re: Is Dasha -- final judgement to give predictions ?? Posted by: " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish bhaskar_jyotish Thu Aug 9, 2007 8:27 pm (PST) Shri Ganeshaya Namah. Dear Srivastavji, //He knew it but has purposely not touched a few of the controversial points in your chart related to Kuja stambhan and chara karka replacement// Sir, I would not mind if you touch upon these, and elaborate. Also on effects wrt Arudha Lagna and Karakamsha Lagna. if this is not a bother for you. regards, Bhaskar. Is Dasha -- final judgement to give predictions ?? " R.C.Srivastava " <swami_rcs wrote: > > > > > *Om mahaganapataye namah* > Dear Bhaskar, > Thanks for posting your data.I did go through excellent analysis > done by " Satya Sai Kolachina " . > Since he analysed chart by Traditional method,I could follow his > reading in toto.His observations are faultless indeed. > From his writing it apperaed although He knew it but has purposely > not touched a few of the controversial points in your chart related > to Kuja stambhan and chara karka replacement.He has given gist as is > desirable. > Regarding my observatin , I can briefly indicate on topic of your > interest. > With thanks and regards. > OM TAT SAT > > > Re: Birth Data > Posted by: " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish bhaskar_jyotish > Thu Aug 9, 2007 1:19 am (PST) > Dear Shri Srivastavaji, > > If You are looking for my > Birth details, then here - > > 28th June 1961 > 10.14am > ELURU (Near Vijaywada) > 16.45N 81.09E > > Ascendant 15.52.00 Leo(KP Aymnsh) > (6 mts.diff if one uses Lahiri) > > Thanks Sir, I would wait eagerly for your > inputs. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > OM TAT SAT ---------------------- R.C.Srivastava {Grad: science, Ayurveda & Commun.Engg.} Consultation-Service E-mail : swami_rcs swami http://www.kaalvastu.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com Ph 91-562- 2232323 and 4001223 Mob 9412268768 -- Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Dear Srivastava ji, That means Arudha is just....dhoka, jo log apko dete hei aur aap khud ko ?? am i right Regards, Tarun , <swami wrote: > > > *Om mahaganapataye namah* > Dear Bhaskar ji, > It will be my pleasure. > Kindly allow me time. As soon as work in hand is over I will make humble effort.subject of effects w.r.t Arudha Lagna and Karakamsha Lagna.in itself is a big exercise as Arudh describes about how world views you and reverse of it shows how you look at world around you. > Results based on analysis from Karakamsha has dimension in the realm of Spirituality,sex life and future possibilties. > Why i am writing this, It is something I will not like to put in public forum for most of it is related to Jaimini and is intimate part of your life.Thus I will need your permission to post reading on your personal ID. > with regards. > RCS > Re: Is Dasha -- final judgement to give predictions ?? > Posted by: " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish bhaskar_jyotish > Thu Aug 9, 2007 8:27 pm (PST) > Shri Ganeshaya Namah. > > Dear Srivastavji, > > //He knew it but has purposely > not touched a few of the controversial points in your > chart related to Kuja stambhan and chara karka replacement// > > Sir, I would not mind if you touch upon these, and elaborate. > > Also on effects wrt Arudha Lagna and Karakamsha Lagna. > if this is not a bother for you. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > Is Dasha -- final judgement to give predictions ?? " R.C.Srivastava " <swami_rcs@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *Om mahaganapataye namah* > > Dear Bhaskar, > > Thanks for posting your data.I did go through excellent analysis > > done by " Satya Sai Kolachina " . > > Since he analysed chart by Traditional method,I could follow his > > reading in toto.His observations are faultless indeed. > > From his writing it apperaed although He knew it but has purposely > > not touched a few of the controversial points in your chart related > > to Kuja stambhan and chara karka replacement.He has given gist as is > > desirable. > > Regarding my observatin , I can briefly indicate on topic of your > > interest. > > With thanks and regards. > > OM TAT SAT > > > > > > Re: Birth Data > > Posted by: " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ bhaskar_jyotish > > Thu Aug 9, 2007 1:19 am (PST) > > Dear Shri Srivastavaji, > > > > If You are looking for my > > Birth details, then here - > > > > 28th June 1961 > > 10.14am > > ELURU (Near Vijaywada) > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > Ascendant 15.52.00 Leo(KP Aymnsh) > > (6 mts.diff if one uses Lahiri) > > > > Thanks Sir, I would wait eagerly for your > > inputs. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > OM TAT SAT > ---------------------- > R.C.Srivastava {Grad: science, Ayurveda & Commun.Engg.} > Consultation-Service > E-mail : swami_rcs > swami > http://www.kaalvastu.com > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > Ph 91-562- 2232323 and 4001223 Mob 9412268768 > -- > Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 *Om mahaganapataye namah* Dear Tarun, Please do not misunderstand the language used in mail.Jyotish has oceanic depth.I may have used inappropriate language. Just here is a little effort to explain the real meaning,Hope a person of your age can easily grasp.When i was of your age group i read a book Success in thirty days.I vaguly remeber it was eight episode and said we are three persons. The person we think we are: The person others think we are; The person we really are. Now astrology has tools to know all the three. This is practical side of my description that i wanted to convey. on spiritual side, it is all maya, loosly translated illusion or perception that deoends upon ones programming environment and value System. Astrologer use it in later way of expression. Now you can draw your conclusion . Thanks for giving me an opportunity to express. with best wishes. OM TAT SAT Re: Is Dasha -- final judgement to give predictions ?? Posted by: " Tarun " tarun.virgo tarun_vst Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:09 am (PST) Dear Srivastava ji, That means Arudha is just....dhoka, jo log apko dete hei aur aap khud ko ?? am i right Regards, Tarun OM TAT SAT ---------------------- R.C.Srivastava {Grad: science, Ayurveda & Commun.Engg.} Consultation-Service E-mail : swami_rcs swami http://www.kaalvastu.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com Ph 91-562- 2232323 and 4001223 Mob 9412268768 -- Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Dear Tarunji, Yes the Arudha would give the clues about a person, how the public sees him as, though in reality ,he may not be, what he is seen as. regards, Bhaskar. , <swami wrote: > > > *Om mahaganapataye namah* > Dear Tarun, > Please do not misunderstand the language used in mail.Jyotish has oceanic depth.I may have used inappropriate language. > Just here is a little effort to explain the real meaning,Hope a person of your age can easily grasp.When i was of your age group i read a book Success in thirty days.I vaguly remeber it was eight episode and said we are three persons. > The person we think we are: > The person others think we are; > The person we really are. > Now astrology has tools to know all the three. > This is practical side of my description that i wanted to convey. > on spiritual side, it is all maya, loosly translated illusion or perception that deoends upon ones programming environment and value System. > Astrologer use it in later way of expression. > Now you can draw your conclusion . > Thanks for giving me an opportunity to express. > with best wishes. > OM TAT SAT > > > > > Re: Is Dasha -- final judgement to give predictions ?? > Posted by: " Tarun " tarun.virgo tarun_vst > Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:09 am (PST) > Dear Srivastava ji, > > That means Arudha is just....dhoka, jo log apko dete hei aur aap khud > ko ?? am i right > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > > OM TAT SAT > ---------------------- > R.C.Srivastava {Grad: science, Ayurveda & Commun.Engg.} Consultation-Service > E-mail : swami_rcs > swami > http://www.kaalvastu.com > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > Ph 91-562- 2232323 and 4001223 Mob 9412268768 > -- > Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Dear Srivastava ji, Many Thanks for your mail no sir i didnt misunderstand for the language, i might had used little diff. instead of wht i wrote i must have written " WE " instead of " Aap / Apko " Yes these 3 lines completely clears the doubt abt arudha, but i will please you, whenever you get time no hurry, but whenever you have time. Its my request to write some more lines on Arudha, which will b helpful for students like me who gains from experienced people. Warm Regards, Tarun , <swami wrote: > > > *Om mahaganapataye namah* > Dear Tarun, > Please do not misunderstand the language used in mail.Jyotish has oceanic depth.I may have used inappropriate language. > Just here is a little effort to explain the real meaning,Hope a person of your age can easily grasp.When i was of your age group i read a book Success in thirty days.I vaguly remeber it was eight episode and said we are three persons. > The person we think we are: > The person others think we are; > The person we really are. > Now astrology has tools to know all the three. > This is practical side of my description that i wanted to convey. > on spiritual side, it is all maya, loosly translated illusion or perception that deoends upon ones programming environment and value System. > Astrologer use it in later way of expression. > Now you can draw your conclusion . > Thanks for giving me an opportunity to express. > with best wishes. > OM TAT SAT > > > > > Re: Is Dasha -- final judgement to give predictions ?? > Posted by: " Tarun " tarun.virgo tarun_vst > Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:09 am (PST) > Dear Srivastava ji, > > That means Arudha is just....dhoka, jo log apko dete hei aur aap khud > ko ?? am i right > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > > OM TAT SAT > ---------------------- > R.C.Srivastava {Grad: science, Ayurveda & Commun.Engg.} Consultation-Service > E-mail : swami_rcs > swami > http://www.kaalvastu.com > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > Ph 91-562- 2232323 and 4001223 Mob 9412268768 > -- > Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji, Yes arudha is always little more mistery for me. I was never able to understand it. deeply. yes definations are readed but few things always comes in my mind. Later or soon i will clear my doubts too from forums discussions. Warm Regards Tarun , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > Yes the Arudha would give the clues about a > person, how the public sees him as, though in > reality ,he may not be, what he is seen as. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , <swami@> wrote: > > > > > > *Om mahaganapataye namah* > > Dear Tarun, > > Please do not misunderstand the language used in mail.Jyotish has > oceanic depth.I may have used inappropriate language. > > Just here is a little effort to explain the real meaning,Hope a > person of your age can easily grasp.When i was of your age group i > read a book Success in thirty days.I vaguly remeber it was eight > episode and said we are three persons. > > The person we think we are: > > The person others think we are; > > The person we really are. > > Now astrology has tools to know all the three. > > This is practical side of my description that i wanted to convey. > > on spiritual side, it is all maya, loosly translated illusion or > perception that deoends upon ones programming environment and value > System. > > Astrologer use it in later way of expression. > > Now you can draw your conclusion . > > Thanks for giving me an opportunity to express. > > with best wishes. > > OM TAT SAT > > > > > > > > > > Re: Is Dasha -- final judgement to give predictions ?? > > Posted by: " Tarun " tarun.virgo@ tarun_vst > > Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:09 am (PST) > > Dear Srivastava ji, > > > > That means Arudha is just....dhoka, jo log apko dete hei aur aap khud > > ko ?? am i right > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > OM TAT SAT > > ---------------------- > > R.C.Srivastava {Grad: science, Ayurveda & Commun.Engg.} > Consultation-Service > > E-mail : swami_rcs@ > > swami@ > > http://www.kaalvastu.com > > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > > Ph 91-562- 2232323 and 4001223 Mob 9412268768 > > -- > > Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that > illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the > right direction. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 yes I concur that the arudha is what the public sees you as. that is why the arudha lagna can be so powerful and have sway even though the person could be otherwise than what is seen from his arudha lagna. it would seem that is why celebrities or really powerful people maybe able to get away with things because the force of the arudha chart. can anyone tell me that this might be the case? namaskar, __________ Raja G. Gursahani *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA) *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Prashantji Did Lalit not prove beyond doubt that Dakshinamurtiji was using a fake ids that were heaping artificial praise on himself and abusing other posters? Sharing knowledge for the sake of helping others and spreading jyotish is of course a good thing, but when the objective is self-promotion(ego0 and to build a client base(profit) I do feel that it falls below the boundaries of basic ethics. I recall Tarunji stating that Saturns transit into Leo would expose such types of corruption and I have seen similar happenings occuring at both the micro level(forums) and macro (mundane). Anyway it seems this fake ids episode should now come to end in this forum at least with all new members being placed on moderation. , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar wrote: > > Tarun > > Well I have answered these in many cases > > that model that traditionally given use are the ones u have given one also > uses Sarvastavargas, to super impose over transits to get a better picture > and shadbalas when there need to get more info when the above r not giving > much clues as not always u need a super speciality doctor isn't it. > > about gods grace sure is a vital part as most classics talks of astrologers > as Daivagnya ok we can master many books, but if gods will to help some > through us or some else or none one will run always > > I can give u an example running right now > > u r aware of the fact we r doing some construction [for nuteral purpouses we > used a vastu expert as I can handle it but not all will see it impartially > done] > > later in some apartments i changed some features for convience ones which we > will use not our sisters and architect made a mistake in final drawing our > experts shyshyas came suddenly and said it is not right u have to break it > and re doi it > > we wanted to check with the expert himself have missed him from 2 weeks now > in Bangalore, Hyd sudden programs he is gone > > I have to get it done as work is pending.... WHY it is not yet time to do it > or get his clearance still > > same way an expert if he gives us an appointment also we may not make it if > our karma doesn't want to get such a benefit this is where GOD comes in and > we have to face it, accept it we have more karma to burn out > > > about fan mails fake ID's > > > i doubt there r many but some do and it may be naive to do it when it is > possible to be detected. > > well I have been in the net world for over 17 yrs so know the way the system > works if people do it it is sad and not only hurts them in long run, will > hurt the subject if we see the war in VA list now. since there is no > monetary gain in the net world at least one must not indulge in them. if at > all there is gain also it by an unfair method will earn sin than money. > > i never respond to empty praise [name only or name the great] i direct them > to the group always if sent to me also on my ID. SAYING MORE PPL WILL > ANALYSE UR CASE AND U CAN BENEFIT BETTER if some says something specific > will still compliment them for feedback to astrology not me. as we have seen > the other side isn't it if people don't get what they want by such posts > also rebuke u badly as u see now in VA why is RD suffering so much as he did > not give all Lalit wanted. he also gets max praise mails too the risk is > there if we get carried away. > > > I use only airtel ADSL network > > whoever have said what I had predicted has happened are not my fans as most > people don't come back this itself is something to get so thank them for > feedback that helps the subject. > > surely u can mail them and check it out on ur own. > > and I have always given credit to the Rishis for showing the way to us and > never gloated over them, failures I will accept more than success as mine as > we may fail not the subject. we have to learn every day, we can't say we > know this much or all. > > > I entered some groups when next generation astrologers keen to know the > subject came to me have guided some, but with so many wars in groups it > seems a waste of time, energy we can do the same service by sitting in a > temple daily for an hr whatever people want to pay can go to the temple as > people must know there is a cost to service, only then they take it > seriously. > > > i can guide people on specific areas but no online classes, till my time > constraints r there. > > I HAVE ALSO GUIDED MEMBERS HOW TO TRACK IP's and also check if their pc's r > infected > > say type > > netstat -n at ur command prompt > > if u get all IP addresses as establisehed there is no virus > > if u get TIME_WAT, SYN,WAIT etc a virus exists > > a sample here > > > Active Connections > > Proto Local Address Foreign Address State > > TCP 122.164.100.33:2767 209.85.199.83:80 ESTABLISHED > TCP 127.0.0.1:2636 127.0.0.1:2637 ESTABLISHED > TCP 127.0.0.1:2637 127.0.0.1:2636 ESTABLISHED > TCP 127.0.0.1:2641 127.0.0.1:2642 ESTABLISHED > TCP 127.0.0.1:2642 127.0.0.1:2641 ESTABLISHED > > this virus shows a safe PC as pf today god know it can be > > best wishes > On 8/8/07, Tarun <tarun.virgo wrote: > > > > Hello Senior Astrologers, > > > > Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet astrology. > > > > 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa) > > 2. To use Transits too. > > 3. Speak by God's grace only. > > 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback response by > > Native is provided) > > > > As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails. (one > > can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response they can > > give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image > > > > But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for sure > > he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this > > birth. > > > > I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thank you, > > Prashantkumar > -------- > For Consultation charges please write to me > -------- > G B Prashant Kumar > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > Nandanam Extn, > Chennai 600035, INDIA > MOBILE 9840051861 > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Dear Srivastava ji, Thanks alot for taking part in this thread. you are absolutely right in your undermentioned points on internet astrology. but some points always hit my mind that when we personally meet astrologer, as i have judged and discussed with few..... that whatever they speak or predict, they themself donot know. They said , they were saying something else and spoke different prediction. so while meeting; the 2nd house of astrologer i.e. speech is governing him. but while on internet what we should consider ?? 3rd house. Whatever comes to mind with calculations is presented. But the speech factor which plays an important role lacks here. I hope i am able to put my doubt. Warm Regards, Tarun , " swamircs " <swami_rcs wrote: > > > *Om mahaganapataye namah* > Dear Tarun, > Good posting. > You have asked to share the way one go for predictions,on internet. > By now beautiful mail from Bharat has apperaed. > We must first understand in what state astrology is on internet before a meaning ful answer is possible. > One can agree to following classification. > 1. Mass astrology used to woo clients and sell all kinds of mani mantra yantra etc using terms like ,kaalsarpa,sadesati,mangal dosa and the like terminology. > 2.Instant astrology combining all they are conversant with like numerology,transits,name akshar,moon position and lalkitaab or common sayings,like broadcast on TV. > 3.Serious astrolgers practising inolved in finding correct astrological chart for native in question, studying past and future from prasna chart and then casting natal chart and working out problems and stumbling blocks from past karma of native.They are usually regular in spiritual practices and predict using all knowldge they have gained by experience. > 4.Senior Gurus the famus one who teaches > astrology and allied mantra mani and aushdhi and responds diligintaly to questions of learners on groups,but never predicts about future. Never never, for they know they may fail and damage hard earned status. > Now you can understand what answers you are likely to get of your question in this scenerio. > The bottom line is on internet astrology is not for consultations but is for shatrath, to prove supermacy and knowledge. > I appreciate your comments in last part of mails. > Experts may forgive me,Dear reader if you are a expert,I am not addressing you. > > OM TAT SAT > Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction. > > > > Dear Friends,For remedies and readings please visit http://www.kaalvastu.com as we have closed http://www.cosmograce.com > ---------------------- > R.C.Srivastava > Consultation-Service > E-mail : swami_rcs > http://www.kaalvastu.com > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > Ph 91-562- 2232323 and 4001223 > Mob 9412268768 > > -- > Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Dear Atma Gnan ji, Thanks alot to be a part of this thread. Yes sir now IP addresses are easily trackable now , even the forum mails on web mobe too provide the source code by which we can check ip address of the person. But yes astrologers who use such tactics should consider the point in themselves about there target. What they want to achive. Are they here to help people, share experiences with other astrologers, or want to prove a leader. what we call in hindi/urdu " Zameer " thanks and Warm Regards, Tarun , " atma_gnan " <atma_gnan wrote: > > Prashantji > > Did Lalit not prove beyond doubt that Dakshinamurtiji was using a > fake ids that were heaping artificial praise on himself and abusing > other posters? Sharing knowledge for the sake of helping others and > spreading jyotish is of course a good thing, but when the objective > is self-promotion(ego0 and to build a client base(profit) I do feel > that it falls below the boundaries of basic ethics. I recall Tarunji > stating that Saturns transit into Leo would expose such types of > corruption and I have seen similar happenings occuring at both the > micro level(forums) and macro (mundane). > > Anyway it seems this fake ids episode should now come to end in this > forum at least with all new members being placed on moderation. , " astro desk " > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > > > Tarun > > > > Well I have answered these in many cases > > > > that model that traditionally given use are the ones u have given > one also > > uses Sarvastavargas, to super impose over transits to get a better > picture > > and shadbalas when there need to get more info when the above r not > giving > > much clues as not always u need a super speciality doctor isn't it. > > > > about gods grace sure is a vital part as most classics talks of > astrologers > > as Daivagnya ok we can master many books, but if gods will to help > some > > through us or some else or none one will run always > > > > I can give u an example running right now > > > > u r aware of the fact we r doing some construction [for nuteral > purpouses we > > used a vastu expert as I can handle it but not all will see it > impartially > > done] > > > > later in some apartments i changed some features for convience ones > which we > > will use not our sisters and architect made a mistake in final > drawing our > > experts shyshyas came suddenly and said it is not right u have to > break it > > and re doi it > > > > we wanted to check with the expert himself have missed him from 2 > weeks now > > in Bangalore, Hyd sudden programs he is gone > > > > I have to get it done as work is pending.... WHY it is not yet time > to do it > > or get his clearance still > > > > same way an expert if he gives us an appointment also we may not > make it if > > our karma doesn't want to get such a benefit this is where GOD > comes in and > > we have to face it, accept it we have more karma to burn out > > > > > > about fan mails fake ID's > > > > > > i doubt there r many but some do and it may be naive to do it when > it is > > possible to be detected. > > > > well I have been in the net world for over 17 yrs so know the way > the system > > works if people do it it is sad and not only hurts them in long > run, will > > hurt the subject if we see the war in VA list now. since there is no > > monetary gain in the net world at least one must not indulge in > them. if at > > all there is gain also it by an unfair method will earn sin than > money. > > > > i never respond to empty praise [name only or name the great] i > direct them > > to the group always if sent to me also on my ID. SAYING MORE PPL > WILL > > ANALYSE UR CASE AND U CAN BENEFIT BETTER if some says something > specific > > will still compliment them for feedback to astrology not me. as we > have seen > > the other side isn't it if people don't get what they want by such > posts > > also rebuke u badly as u see now in VA why is RD suffering so much > as he did > > not give all Lalit wanted. he also gets max praise mails too the > risk is > > there if we get carried away. > > > > > > I use only airtel ADSL network > > > > whoever have said what I had predicted has happened are not my fans > as most > > people don't come back this itself is something to get so thank > them for > > feedback that helps the subject. > > > > surely u can mail them and check it out on ur own. > > > > and I have always given credit to the Rishis for showing the way to > us and > > never gloated over them, failures I will accept more than success > as mine as > > we may fail not the subject. we have to learn every day, we can't > say we > > know this much or all. > > > > > > I entered some groups when next generation astrologers keen to know > the > > subject came to me have guided some, but with so many wars in > groups it > > seems a waste of time, energy we can do the same service by sitting > in a > > temple daily for an hr whatever people want to pay can go to the > temple as > > people must know there is a cost to service, only then they take it > > seriously. > > > > > > i can guide people on specific areas but no online classes, till my > time > > constraints r there. > > > > I HAVE ALSO GUIDED MEMBERS HOW TO TRACK IP's and also check if > their pc's r > > infected > > > > say type > > > > netstat -n at ur command prompt > > > > if u get all IP addresses as establisehed there is no virus > > > > if u get TIME_WAT, SYN,WAIT etc a virus exists > > > > a sample here > > > > > > Active Connections > > > > Proto Local Address Foreign Address > State > > > > TCP 122.164.100.33:2767 209.85.199.83:80 > ESTABLISHED > > TCP 127.0.0.1:2636 127.0.0.1:2637 > ESTABLISHED > > TCP 127.0.0.1:2637 127.0.0.1:2636 > ESTABLISHED > > TCP 127.0.0.1:2641 127.0.0.1:2642 > ESTABLISHED > > TCP 127.0.0.1:2642 127.0.0.1:2641 > ESTABLISHED > > > > this virus shows a safe PC as pf today god know it can be > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/8/07, Tarun <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet > astrology. > > > > > > 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa) > > > 2. To use Transits too. > > > 3. Speak by God's grace only. > > > 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback > response by > > > Native is provided) > > > > > > As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails. > (one > > > can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response > they can > > > give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image > > > > > > But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is > for sure > > > he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this > > > birth. > > > > > > I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thank you, > > > > Prashantkumar > > -------- > > For Consultation charges please write to me > > -------- > > G B Prashant Kumar > > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > > Nandanam Extn, > > Chennai 600035, INDIA > > MOBILE 9840051861 > > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Excuse me but who are Dakshinamurthy and Lalit? PJ , " atma_gnan " <atma_gnan wrote: > > Prashantji > > Did Lalit not prove beyond doubt that Dakshinamurtiji was using a > fake ids that were heaping artificial praise on himself and abusing > other posters? Sharing knowledge for the sake of helping others and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Dear Prashant ji, yes i understand your points, yes many astrologers who want to prove visibility do this fake ids game. But yes its up to them. They are misguiding people and creating sin, as astrologer is a god's messenger for people. and as far as i am on internet astrology from last 3 yrs. This is the first time where people or hot blooded boys posting so much abusive mails. and the topic of Fan mails...God knows better who do it and who not. After all our Karma will go with us , not these fan mails. Warm Regrds, Tarun , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar wrote: > > Tarun > > Well I have answered these in many cases > > that model that traditionally given use are the ones u have given one also > uses Sarvastavargas, to super impose over transits to get a better picture > and shadbalas when there need to get more info when the above r not giving > much clues as not always u need a super speciality doctor isn't it. > > about gods grace sure is a vital part as most classics talks of astrologers > as Daivagnya ok we can master many books, but if gods will to help some > through us or some else or none one will run always > > I can give u an example running right now > > u r aware of the fact we r doing some construction [for nuteral purpouses we > used a vastu expert as I can handle it but not all will see it impartially > done] > > later in some apartments i changed some features for convience ones which we > will use not our sisters and architect made a mistake in final drawing our > experts shyshyas came suddenly and said it is not right u have to break it > and re doi it > > we wanted to check with the expert himself have missed him from 2 weeks now > in Bangalore, Hyd sudden programs he is gone > > I have to get it done as work is pending.... WHY it is not yet time to do it > or get his clearance still > > same way an expert if he gives us an appointment also we may not make it if > our karma doesn't want to get such a benefit this is where GOD comes in and > we have to face it, accept it we have more karma to burn out > > > about fan mails fake ID's > > > i doubt there r many but some do and it may be naive to do it when it is > possible to be detected. > > well I have been in the net world for over 17 yrs so know the way the system > works if people do it it is sad and not only hurts them in long run, will > hurt the subject if we see the war in VA list now. since there is no > monetary gain in the net world at least one must not indulge in them. if at > all there is gain also it by an unfair method will earn sin than money. > > i never respond to empty praise [name only or name the great] i direct them > to the group always if sent to me also on my ID. SAYING MORE PPL WILL > ANALYSE UR CASE AND U CAN BENEFIT BETTER if some says something specific > will still compliment them for feedback to astrology not me. as we have seen > the other side isn't it if people don't get what they want by such posts > also rebuke u badly as u see now in VA why is RD suffering so much as he did > not give all Lalit wanted. he also gets max praise mails too the risk is > there if we get carried away. > > > I use only airtel ADSL network > > whoever have said what I had predicted has happened are not my fans as most > people don't come back this itself is something to get so thank them for > feedback that helps the subject. > > surely u can mail them and check it out on ur own. > > and I have always given credit to the Rishis for showing the way to us and > never gloated over them, failures I will accept more than success as mine as > we may fail not the subject. we have to learn every day, we can't say we > know this much or all. > > > I entered some groups when next generation astrologers keen to know the > subject came to me have guided some, but with so many wars in groups it > seems a waste of time, energy we can do the same service by sitting in a > temple daily for an hr whatever people want to pay can go to the temple as > people must know there is a cost to service, only then they take it > seriously. > > > i can guide people on specific areas but no online classes, till my time > constraints r there. > > I HAVE ALSO GUIDED MEMBERS HOW TO TRACK IP's and also check if their pc's r > infected > > say type > > netstat -n at ur command prompt > > if u get all IP addresses as establisehed there is no virus > > if u get TIME_WAT, SYN,WAIT etc a virus exists > > a sample here > > > Active Connections > > Proto Local Address Foreign Address State > > TCP 122.164.100.33:2767 209.85.199.83:80 ESTABLISHED > TCP 127.0.0.1:2636 127.0.0.1:2637 ESTABLISHED > TCP 127.0.0.1:2637 127.0.0.1:2636 ESTABLISHED > TCP 127.0.0.1:2641 127.0.0.1:2642 ESTABLISHED > TCP 127.0.0.1:2642 127.0.0.1:2641 ESTABLISHED > > this virus shows a safe PC as pf today god know it can be > > best wishes > On 8/8/07, Tarun <tarun.virgo wrote: > > > > Hello Senior Astrologers, > > > > Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet astrology. > > > > 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa) > > 2. To use Transits too. > > 3. Speak by God's grace only. > > 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback response by > > Native is provided) > > > > As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails. (one > > can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response they can > > give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image > > > > But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for sure > > he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this > > birth. > > > > I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thank you, > > Prashantkumar > -------- > For Consultation charges please write to me > -------- > G B Prashant Kumar > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > Nandanam Extn, > Chennai 600035, INDIA > MOBILE 9840051861 > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Fake ids normally have 2 Motives in their functioning- 1) The Msster mind behind this is looking to promote and establish himself, by sending fake enquiries, and subsequent fake mails of praise. OR 2) To demote another astrologer by abuse mails, or digging at him for senseless talks, so that he is thrown out of public favour eventually. In both cases above,the astrologer is digging a grave for himself, for no one can become or achieve good levels of astrological powers if he resorts to such base feelings and actions, and every good astrologer has to mandatorily have goodness in him, to bloom in predictive astrology, which can only come by either or all, of good astrological knowledge and study, honesty, truthfullness, fearlessness to face both right as well as wrong predictions made, a inherent desire to help people,ethically in conformity with religious,scriptural and cultural norms, and to be just good basically. By resorting to harming others through fake ids, or by promoting himself for the credit not due ethically, it is just a nemesis nothing else for such astrologers. Ultimately in the final analysis, only He (God) remains and him (The astrologer who behaved thus) remains.How will he face Him ? because ultimately man has to remain alone and leave alone. Grandparents leave, then parents leave,then Uncles aunts and relatives leave, children grow big and they leave,then either husband or wife leaves for good. Finally who remains ? And when the left over also leaves , then whom does he meet ? he of course has to meet The Justice Dispenser. So for temporary gains of few years or few months related to this body which is ultimately going to be consigned of in flames, why do these mudh pranis dont understand what they are doing ? They are carrying the evil of these sins incurred to the next body whenever they are re-born. But they will not understand till they achieve maturity level.. regards, bhaskar. > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Atma Gnan ji, > > Thanks alot to be a part of this thread. > > Yes sir now IP addresses are easily trackable now , even the forum > mails on web mobe too provide the source code by which we can check > ip address of the person. > > But yes astrologers who use such tactics should consider the point in > themselves about there target. What they want to achive. Are they > here to help people, share experiences with other astrologers, or > want to prove a leader. what we call in hindi/urdu " Zameer " > > thanks and Warm Regards, > > Tarun > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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