Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear Satya ji,Satish ji Bhaskar ji,Chandrashekhar ji and all As i am engaged with Varga Chakra assignment, i may not be able to devote much time for studying this topic.But it would be interesting to read if other members can share their views.Chandrashekhar ji is extensively using 360 days. As mentioned before, i am just experimenting.But i can present my logic or Tarka which gave me a go-ahead to experiment with 360 days. As long as I do not have enough Pramanas, this remains my personal view. 1) Many learned scholars debate that Sun takes so many days to traverse 360 degrees and hence the length of year is 365.25. Nobody has a disagreement here - This is a fact as far as solar path is concerned. 2) What is Mahadasha ? It is the period of influence a particular planet is having on a Jataka. It can be so many years, so many months and so many days. What can be the duration of this day? a) 1 degree movement of Sun b) 1 sunrise to another sunrise Horashastra is based on Ahoratra, which is the period between two sun rises. If some one says, 360 days is not based on Sun's influence- then we can deny it. Udaya or rise has significance. Horizon is the ''visible'' realm that denotes our arrival. Lagna do have a degree, but it has no significance without horizon. It is the Udaya or rise of our Lagna. Earth is the frame of reference, and it marks the Thala or Plane from which a Jataka is analyzed. Thus as compared to 1 degree movement of Sun, I feel 1 AHO + 1 RATRA or the time period between two sunrises is a day.This is because Sun re-enters the said Thala at every Udaya or Rise. Sun's influence is the very Karaka for our separate existence. He is the Karaka for Lagna as per Jyotish. Thus his Udaya marks the beginning of influence. The period of influence of a Graha, thus has to be measured on the basis of the above said argument is my personal view at this moment. I will stand corrected if learned scholars may provide, sufficient Tarka and Pramana. Regds Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Vijaydasji, Yes that makes sense. A civil day is from 1 sunrise to next sunrise. 360 such civil days make a civil( savana year). Also jyotish is such a nice and symmetric model. 120 year dasha, 9 planets, 12 houses, 30 degrees per rashi. all these are nice multiples. So 360 fits nicely in scheme of things. 360 can be divisible by all the numbers mentioned above. 365.25 is such an odd entity. There is a dialogue between bhisma and duryodhana about whether pandavas exile had ended or not ? According to duryodhana it had not ended. According to bheshma and Pandavas it had ended. Probably duryodhana was using 365 day solar year but bheeshma knower of shstras was probably using 360 day year. A point to ponder. Satish --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > Dear Satya ji,Satish ji Bhaskar ji,Chandrashekhar ji > and all > > As i am engaged with Varga Chakra assignment, i may > not be able to > devote much time for studying this topic.But it > would be interesting > to read if other members can share their > views.Chandrashekhar ji is > extensively using 360 days. > > As mentioned before, i am just experimenting.But i > can present my > logic or Tarka which gave me a go-ahead to > experiment with 360 days. > As long as I do not have enough Pramanas, this > remains my personal view. > > 1) Many learned scholars debate that Sun takes so > many days to > traverse 360 degrees and hence the length of year is > 365.25. > > Nobody has a disagreement here - This is a fact as > far as solar path > is concerned. > > 2) What is Mahadasha ? > It is the period of influence a particular planet > is having on a > Jataka. It can be so many years, so many months and > so many days. > > What can be the duration of this day? > > a) 1 degree movement of Sun > b) 1 sunrise to another sunrise > > > Horashastra is based on Ahoratra, which is the > period between two sun > rises. If some one says, 360 days is not based on > Sun's influence- > then we can deny it. > > Udaya or rise has significance. Horizon is the > ''visible'' realm that > denotes our arrival. Lagna do have a degree, but it > has no > significance without horizon. It is the Udaya or > rise of our Lagna. > Earth is the frame of reference, and it marks the > Thala or Plane from > which a Jataka is analyzed. Thus as compared to 1 > degree movement of > Sun, I feel 1 AHO + 1 RATRA or the time period > between two sunrises is > a day.This is because Sun re-enters the said Thala > at every Udaya or Rise. > > Sun's influence is the very Karaka for our separate > existence. He is > the Karaka for Lagna as per Jyotish. Thus his Udaya > marks the > beginning of influence. The period of influence of a > Graha, thus has > to be measured on the basis of the above said > argument is my personal > view at this moment. I will stand corrected if > learned scholars may > provide, sufficient Tarka and Pramana. > > Regds > Pradeep > > > ______________________________\ ____ Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv./collections/222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Dear Pradeep, I have just sent the shlokas that appear in Narada samhita in response to Satya's mail. What is the opinion of Sage Narada (or sage Sanandana who taught the shastra to Narada, according to Narada Purana) is pretty obvious. Of course others could have a different interpretation of either the shloka or authority of Narada in matters astrological. I prefer the authority of Narada. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Satya ji,Satish ji Bhaskar ji,Chandrashekhar ji and all > > As i am engaged with Varga Chakra assignment, i may not be able to > devote much time for studying this topic.But it would be interesting > to read if other members can share their views.Chandrashekhar ji is > extensively using 360 days. > > As mentioned before, i am just experimenting.But i can present my > logic or Tarka which gave me a go-ahead to experiment with 360 days. > As long as I do not have enough Pramanas, this remains my personal view. > > 1) Many learned scholars debate that Sun takes so many days to > traverse 360 degrees and hence the length of year is 365.25. > > Nobody has a disagreement here - This is a fact as far as solar path > is concerned. > > 2) What is Mahadasha ? > It is the period of influence a particular planet is having on a > Jataka. It can be so many years, so many months and so many days. > > What can be the duration of this day? > > a) 1 degree movement of Sun > b) 1 sunrise to another sunrise > > Horashastra is based on Ahoratra, which is the period between two sun > rises. If some one says, 360 days is not based on Sun's influence- > then we can deny it. > > Udaya or rise has significance. Horizon is the ''visible'' realm that > denotes our arrival. Lagna do have a degree, but it has no > significance without horizon. It is the Udaya or rise of our Lagna. > Earth is the frame of reference, and it marks the Thala or Plane from > which a Jataka is analyzed. Thus as compared to 1 degree movement of > Sun, I feel 1 AHO + 1 RATRA or the time period between two sunrises is > a day.This is because Sun re-enters the said Thala at every Udaya or Rise. > > Sun's influence is the very Karaka for our separate existence. He is > the Karaka for Lagna as per Jyotish. Thus his Udaya marks the > beginning of influence. The period of influence of a Graha, thus has > to be measured on the basis of the above said argument is my personal > view at this moment. I will stand corrected if learned scholars may > provide, sufficient Tarka and Pramana. > > Regds > Pradeep > > > ------ > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Version: 0.0.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release 8/3/2007 5:46 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji Thank you for the shlokas from Narada Samhitha.As various purposes are mentioned for each type,this is looking logical.Is there any different interpretation by others who are not agreeing. Why is this not accepted by many.As you might have had discussions,it will be nice to know the views from others. Respect Pradeep , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > I have just sent the shlokas that appear in Narada samhita in response > to Satya's mail. What is the opinion of Sage Narada (or sage Sanandana > who taught the shastra to Narada, according to Narada Purana) is pretty > obvious. > > Of course others could have a different interpretation of either the > shloka or authority of Narada in matters astrological. I prefer the > authority of Narada. > > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Satya ji,Satish ji Bhaskar ji,Chandrashekhar ji and all > > > > As i am engaged with Varga Chakra assignment, i may not be able to > > devote much time for studying this topic.But it would be interesting > > to read if other members can share their views.Chandrashekhar ji is > > extensively using 360 days. > > > > As mentioned before, i am just experimenting.But i can present my > > logic or Tarka which gave me a go-ahead to experiment with 360 days. > > As long as I do not have enough Pramanas, this remains my personal view. > > > > 1) Many learned scholars debate that Sun takes so many days to > > traverse 360 degrees and hence the length of year is 365.25. > > > > Nobody has a disagreement here - This is a fact as far as solar path > > is concerned. > > > > 2) What is Mahadasha ? > > It is the period of influence a particular planet is having on a > > Jataka. It can be so many years, so many months and so many days. > > > > What can be the duration of this day? > > > > a) 1 degree movement of Sun > > b) 1 sunrise to another sunrise > > > > Horashastra is based on Ahoratra, which is the period between two sun > > rises. If some one says, 360 days is not based on Sun's influence- > > then we can deny it. > > > > Udaya or rise has significance. Horizon is the ''visible'' realm that > > denotes our arrival. Lagna do have a degree, but it has no > > significance without horizon. It is the Udaya or rise of our Lagna. > > Earth is the frame of reference, and it marks the Thala or Plane from > > which a Jataka is analyzed. Thus as compared to 1 degree movement of > > Sun, I feel 1 AHO + 1 RATRA or the time period between two sunrises is > > a day.This is because Sun re-enters the said Thala at every Udaya or Rise. > > > > Sun's influence is the very Karaka for our separate existence. He is > > the Karaka for Lagna as per Jyotish. Thus his Udaya marks the > > beginning of influence. The period of influence of a Graha, thus has > > to be measured on the basis of the above said argument is my personal > > view at this moment. I will stand corrected if learned scholars may > > provide, sufficient Tarka and Pramana. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > ------ > > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > > > Version: 0.0.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release Date: 8/3/2007 5:46 PM > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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