Is Dasha -- final judgement to give predictions ??

[Guest guest]

Hello Senior Astrologers,

 

Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet astrology.

 

1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa)

2. To use Transits too.

3. Speak by God's grace only.

4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback response by

Native is provided)

 

As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails.(one

can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response they can

give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image

 

But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for sure

he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this

birth.

 

I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sri Tarun

 

I am not a senior astrologer but still taking the liberty to reply. Internet

astrology and other astrology is no different. People in Internet groups are

of varied kinds like they are without Internet groups. Being a simple to use

and direct method of advertising, promoting or sharing, Internet is used for

the same. Please do not show them as separate. People outside of internet

are also doing the same. Some are using every trick in the trade and others

are pursuing this science with Dharma.

 

Groups formed, such as this, are for sharing of research, learning of

astrology principles, and employing these principles to study different

charts. They aren't, usually, meant for giving free readings to opportunists

who seek them, unless specified by the creator/moderator of the group. As

far as I know, Jyotish Group was formed for sharing the teachings of Sri K.

N. Rao and other senior astrologers. If you see the archives of this group,

they are filled with useful suggestions and practical tips. Now, it is a

free for all forum wherein hurling verbal abuses, baseless challenges,

show-off of this " divine science " is undertaken with a remorseless attitude.

 

 

Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also reply to it:

 

The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser problems in any

given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will fluctuate with

more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is the chart of a

given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is badly afflicted.

Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

 

Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The results of all

houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent are those grahas

whose period is going on. The results depend upon the relative placement of

the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can be taken as

" lagna of its signification " to check the result. The placement in trik

houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics both from the lagna

and the house under consideration is checked (Many check this placement from

Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked. Their mutual

placement to each other is checked.

 

Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events. Dasha periods are

often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is then the transits

are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the dasha periods,

but, they act as triggers for an event.

 

Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi. These principles

help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage of Nakshatra

placement and its change of result is an important feature.

 

If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study of some of the

classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain an attitude of a

" seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses only those with

" thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related to complexes and

egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and not " show " it to

seem true to others.

 

In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is important to pick

and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get into groups but

remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and others are wrong "

is the first step in being more ignorant than one already is. From people

who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who do other adharmic

activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient, knowledgeable and kind

members, you learn what to do.

 

Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord. Not you and I.

Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should not proclaim by

doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord decide that. The more

you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on your own attitude

and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get into the cycle of

fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be on yourself when

it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word, nowadays, it seems in

the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind and gentle members

who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

 

Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked correctly

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

 

On 8/8/07, Tarun <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Hello Senior Astrologers,

>

> Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet astrology.

>

> 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa)

> 2. To use Transits too.

> 3. Speak by God's grace only.

> 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback response by

> Native is provided)

>

> As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails.(one

> can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response they can

> give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image

>

> But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for sure

> he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this

> birth.

>

> I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Bharat

 

Yours is a very informative mail with truly wise counsel.

 

K C Dwivedi

 

 

Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu wrote:

Namaste Sri Tarun

 

I am not a senior astrologer but still taking the liberty to reply. Internet

astrology and other astrology is no different. People in Internet groups are

of varied kinds like they are without Internet groups. Being a simple to use

and direct method of advertising, promoting or sharing, Internet is used for

the same. Please do not show them as separate. People outside of internet

are also doing the same. Some are using every trick in the trade and others

are pursuing this science with Dharma.

 

Groups formed, such as this, are for sharing of research, learning of

astrology principles, and employing these principles to study different

charts. They aren't, usually, meant for giving free readings to opportunists

who seek them, unless specified by the creator/moderator of the group. As

far as I know, Jyotish Group was formed for sharing the teachings of Sri K.

N. Rao and other senior astrologers. If you see the archives of this group,

they are filled with useful suggestions and practical tips. Now, it is a

free for all forum wherein hurling verbal abuses, baseless challenges,

show-off of this " divine science " is undertaken with a remorseless attitude.

 

Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also reply to it:

 

The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser problems in any

given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will fluctuate with

more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is the chart of a

given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is badly afflicted.

Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

 

Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The results of all

houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent are those grahas

whose period is going on. The results depend upon the relative placement of

the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can be taken as

" lagna of its signification " to check the result. The placement in trik

houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics both from the lagna

and the house under consideration is checked (Many check this placement from

Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked. Their mutual

placement to each other is checked.

 

Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events. Dasha periods are

often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is then the transits

are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the dasha periods,

but, they act as triggers for an event.

 

Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi. These principles

help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage of Nakshatra

placement and its change of result is an important feature.

 

If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study of some of the

classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain an attitude of a

" seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses only those with

" thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related to complexes and

egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and not " show " it to

seem true to others.

 

In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is important to pick

and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get into groups but

remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and others are wrong "

is the first step in being more ignorant than one already is. From people

who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who do other adharmic

activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient, knowledgeable and kind

members, you learn what to do.

 

Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord. Not you and I.

Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should not proclaim by

doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord decide that. The more

you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on your own attitude

and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get into the cycle of

fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be on yourself when

it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word, nowadays, it seems in

the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind and gentle members

who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

 

Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked correctly

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On 8/8/07, Tarun <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Hello Senior Astrologers,

>

> Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet astrology.

>

> 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa)

> 2. To use Transits too.

> 3. Speak by God's grace only.

> 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback response by

> Native is provided)

>

> As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails.(one

> can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response they can

> give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image

>

> But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for sure

> he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this

> birth.

>

> I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

>

>

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Tarunji,

 

Must commend you on your pointers of judgement of

Predictive principles.

 

I follow the Order-

 

1) Speak by Gods grace

2) MahaDasha and antardasha-what they indicate?

3) Transits to narrow down the timing of events.

4) Use of all approaches I am familiar with,

Traditional,KP ,Ashtakvarga,little of Jamini etc.

 

I will refrain from giving pravachan otherwise

they would construe that as " Show off "

I should also remind some, that I throw challenge

only when My gurus or the Vedic astrology

or the Hindu Culture is insulted and spoken of

in a Derogatory manner,otherwise I dont.

 

Let me also remind a few, that by remaining ,

silent the silent members do not absolve the

Forum from intelligent discussions. And neither

those who speak are without any substance.

And Pravachan only those should give here,

who are active, Those who stroll in once

in a while have no right to give pravachans

on behaviour of others.

Only thosw who have fought on Kargil should

talk about the conditions there. In same way

the others who are immersed in their own things

in the Forum, know best what behaviour should be

forthcoming. None should have the right to

comment on them and prove that they are very holy

and wise, by degrading those who have been

practising actually.

 

Anyway the above is not to be taken for individual,

rather on a bigger yardstick of measurement.

 

I know some astrologers who are predicting on

several Forums simultaneously and making 30

predictions in a day. I also know that 90% of

these predictions are baseless without any

homework,but keep quiet, because it is not our

job to cleanse the world, we have to cleanse

ourselves. But such men would certainly have to

pay for the grave sins they are committing in

the name of astrology, by foolong innocent gullible

people who are already troubled souls in pain.

 

Giving them false promise and asking them to do

such and such remedial measures and then taking money

from them, and after some time the native not finding

any change in his state, would call for great curse

from the heart of the troubled soul, and also from

the Prakriti Ma-Mother Nature.So beware all such

astrologers.

 

Tarunji, people are trying to create rift between

you and me, though we dont know each other, but we

both believe in predictive astrology, which they

shudder to do out of fear, of loss of prestige and

confidence, if proved wrong. So they are out

to create rifts between all such members. be

careful in understanding such mails. Already

We have been spoken cheaply of, and you have been

named as my cronie, by ..... so just dont

get involved in what people say.Listen and let

those words slip away from the glossy surface.

these people are always ready to give unwanted advise

and pravachans but have nothing to offer on astrology

forums.Their Ego gets feeded by giving pravachans and

always want to remain in Utopian fantasy where they

are seated on big thrones as gurus. Ha. I get incensed

with such self styled Gurus.

I am happy to be a normal person with normal qualities,

and thank God am not trying to play role of Guru or

GodFather. Its good that I have no image to keep.

Many people know me as abusive person, many people know

me as Egoistic and some know me as Good. So I am normal.

I wish I was always normal.Talking sweetly on the outside

and cursing someone and harboring feelings of zeaolusy

gainst others,in the heart, is not my Forte. Never have

I resorted to such type of over diplomacy or trying to

look good.It always pays in the long run, to be free,

frank and honest in outbursts and expressions, and keep

the heart crystal clear for God to remain in.

 

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Hello Senior Astrologers,

>

> Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet astrology.

>

> 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa)

> 2. To use Transits too.

> 3. Speak by God's grace only.

> 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback response by

> Native is provided)

>

> As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails.(one

> can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response they can

> give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image

>

> But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for sure

> he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this

> birth.

>

> I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

 

Thanks for sharing your views.

 

my comments are below your lines.

 

 

> 1) Speak by Gods grace

> 2) MahaDasha and antardasha-what they indicate?

> 3) Transits to narrow down the timing of events.

> 4) Use of all approaches I am familiar with,

> Traditional,KP ,Ashtakvarga,little of Jamini etc.

 

 

Yes God is all above, if he want us to help native, he will let us to

judge correctly.

I was told by one of my friend that, his father's horoscope whoever

astrologer trys to remake was to get sick. and those astrologer didnt

made it again. So this was a bad time of native that God didnt permit

him to sort remedy.

 

Yes sir this is the utmost to use each of knowledgebase to justify

results. But many uses dasha only , so i thought to ask what is real

method.

 

 

> I will refrain from giving pravachan otherwise

> they would construe that as " Show off "

> I should also remind some, that I throw challenge

> only when My gurus or the Vedic astrology

> or the Hindu Culture is insulted and spoken of

> in a Derogatory manner,otherwise I dont.

>

> Let me also remind a few, that by remaining ,

> silent the silent members do not absolve the

> Forum from intelligent discussions. And neither

> those who speak are without any substance.

> And Pravachan only those should give here,

> who are active, Those who stroll in once

> in a while have no right to give pravachans

> on behaviour of others.

> Only thosw who have fought on Kargil should

> talk about the conditions there. In same way

> the others who are immersed in their own things

> in the Forum, know best what behaviour should be

> forthcoming. None should have the right to

> comment on them and prove that they are very holy

> and wise, by degrading those who have been

> practising actually.

 

Yes Sir everyone has different views, we cannot refrain them. But

yes developing good skills in ourself is our prime importance.

 

 

 

> Anyway the above is not to be taken for individual,

> rather on a bigger yardstick of measurement.

>

> I know some astrologers who are predicting on

> several Forums simultaneously and making 30

> predictions in a day. I also know that 90% of

> these predictions are baseless without any

> homework,but keep quiet, because it is not our

> job to cleanse the world, we have to cleanse

> ourselves. But such men would certainly have to

> pay for the grave sins they are committing in

> the name of astrology, by foolong innocent gullible

> people who are already troubled souls in pain.

 

Exactly there are many persons who are trying to prove themself god's

messenger by providing such services , but yes it depends on there

predictive skills too that they are good to provide predictions or

just sticking to dasha system. and these astrologers are also indulge

in creating fake Fan mails too.

 

 

 

> Giving them false promise and asking them to do

> such and such remedial measures and then taking money

> from them, and after some time the native not finding

> any change in his state, would call for great curse

> from the heart of the troubled soul, and also from

> the Prakriti Ma-Mother Nature.So beware all such

> astrologers.

 

 

 

 

> Tarunji, people are trying to create rift between

> you and me, though we dont know each other, but we

> both believe in predictive astrology, which they

> shudder to do out of fear, of loss of prestige and

> confidence, if proved wrong. So they are out

> to create rifts between all such members. be

> careful in understanding such mails. Already

> We have been spoken cheaply of, and you have been

> named as my cronie, by ..... so just dont

> get involved in what people say.Listen and let

> those words slip away from the glossy surface.

> these people are always ready to give unwanted advise

> and pravachans but have nothing to offer on astrology

> forums.Their Ego gets feeded by giving pravachans and

> always want to remain in Utopian fantasy where they

> are seated on big thrones as gurus. Ha. I get incensed

> with such self styled Gurus.

 

Bhaskar ji, i am never worried whatever they speak, as they speak

because of jealousy / misunderstanding. Even If i oppose someone

because he is incorrect , he will take me as his enemy but on my side

i am doing good to point that person not to misguide people. Instead

one should accept his predictive skills boldly. As far as i am

concerned , i respect all those who are true by heart and clear. If

we ask someone a simple question and if the astrologer is not able to

reply to it , its surely a thing to say that astrologer is lacking

knowledge.

 

 

> I am happy to be a normal person with normal qualities,

> and thank God am not trying to play role of Guru or

> GodFather. Its good that I have no image to keep.

> Many people know me as abusive person, many people know

> me as Egoistic and some know me as Good. So I am normal.

> I wish I was always normal.Talking sweetly on the outside

> and cursing someone and harboring feelings of zeaolusy

> gainst others,in the heart, is not my Forte. Never have

> I resorted to such type of over diplomacy or trying to

> look good.It always pays in the long run, to be free,

> frank and honest in outbursts and expressions, and keep

> the heart crystal clear for God to remain in.

 

 

 

 

You have good spirit sir. and thats praisable.

 

Warm Regards,

 

Tarun

[Guest guest]

Dear Bharat ji,

 

Thanks for your mail.

 

Sir since you are into astrology from long time , you are atleast

senior to me :-)

 

 

yes thats the exact thing that people just play with many natives by

providing them baseless predictions., and as native mostly donot give

feedback, they feel like a good astrolger in themselves.

 

 

 

Yes i have seen his KN Rao ji's and other members mails in archives

which are full of information.

 

 

 

 

> Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also reply

to it:

>

> The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser problems

in any

> given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will fluctuate

with

> more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is the

chart of a

> given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is badly

afflicted.

> Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

 

Yes ashtakavarga is one of the required knowledge too, as KAS method

is purely on astakvarga.

 

 

> Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The results

of all

> houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent are

those grahas

> whose period is going on. The results depend upon the relative

placement of

> the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can be

taken as

> " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The placement in

trik

> houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics both from

the lagna

> and the house under consideration is checked (Many check this

placement from

> Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked. Their mutual

> placement to each other is checked.

 

I do prefer the same method for judgement according to dasha. But

some horoscopes which contain conjuctions of more planets becomes

specific in judgement from this method.

 

 

 

> Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events. Dasha

periods are

> often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is then the

transits

> are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the dasha

periods,

> but, they act as triggers for an event.

 

I try to justify the past events with the degree of planetry

influence during transit and then analyse those degrees. Cant explain

but i use it too.

 

 

 

> Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi. These

principles

> help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage of

Nakshatra

> placement and its change of result is an important feature.

 

 

Yes nakshatra gives information that planet would be effective or

not. in its dasha or mahadasha, like if Guru is in Rahu's nakshatra

it wont be able to deliver results...in my view.

 

 

 

> If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study of some

of the

> classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain an

attitude of a

> " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses only

those with

> " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related to

complexes and

> egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and not " show "

it to

> seem true to others.

 

I have God's grace in this regard that I can dig things to find out

what i need to know.

 

Sir those who feel as egoist are not egoist but they have proud of

doing good karma but yes Ego should be avoided. As many astrologers

in other forum make it personal issue if someone points on there

predicitive skills. and creates abusive mails for the person who is

pointing him.

 

 

> In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is

important to pick

> and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get into

groups but

> remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and others

are wrong "

> is the first step in being more ignorant than one already is. From

people

> who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who do other

adharmic

> activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient, knowledgeable

and kind

> members, you learn what to do.

 

Sir whoever has mind he wont follow blindly, but he will try to

explore all the techniques becuse he need to help others.

He wil learn Parashari, KP, Jaimini everything because every system

has many secrets.

and true astrologer want to help native.

 

 

 

> Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord. Not you

and I.

> Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should not

proclaim by

> doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord decide that.

The more

> you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on your own

attitude

> and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get into the

cycle of

> fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be on

yourself when

> it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word, nowadays, it

seems in

> the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind and

gentle members

> who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

 

Yes true, we are who to talk of sins, its the innerself ( zamir ) of

person to tell him that he is incuring sins by providing wrong

predictons.

 

My main aim on these forum is to learn future prediction of native,

Past can be told by anyone, but who can tell the EXACT future and can

tell mind of person.

 

My method is little different in terms of predictive part for a

person. I try to analyse that what is in person's mind and what

condition are suitable to him. So i first try to observe lagna and

moon's conjuction. and then see the query part.

 

Yes i am not expert yet in predictive part so i stay silent as my

innerself donot allow me to play.

 

 

> Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked correctly

 

Yes sir your mail was very informative and thoughtful & Written in

freshmood.

 

 

 

Warm Regrds,

 

Tarun

[Guest guest]

Dear Bharat,

 

a well laid out mail covering what the subject says, how to use it and also

the model for an astrologer be it student or one slightly advanced, I can

say as long as we live we have to learn by the day. each experience in life

adds color,value to our life. ur post is far elaborate than what I had to

say, a good job.

 

Best wishes

 

On 8/8/07, Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Tarun

>

> I am not a senior astrologer but still taking the liberty to reply.

> Internet

> astrology and other astrology is no different. People in Internet groups

> are

> of varied kinds like they are without Internet groups. Being a simple to

> use

> and direct method of advertising, promoting or sharing, Internet is used

> for

> the same. Please do not show them as separate. People outside of internet

> are also doing the same. Some are using every trick in the trade and

> others

> are pursuing this science with Dharma.

>

> Groups formed, such as this, are for sharing of research, learning of

> astrology principles, and employing these principles to study different

> charts. They aren't, usually, meant for giving free readings to

> opportunists

> who seek them, unless specified by the creator/moderator of the group. As

> far as I know, Jyotish Group was formed for sharing the teachings of Sri

> K.

> N. Rao and other senior astrologers. If you see the archives of this

> group,

> they are filled with useful suggestions and practical tips. Now, it is a

> free for all forum wherein hurling verbal abuses, baseless challenges,

> show-off of this " divine science " is undertaken with a remorseless

> attitude.

>

> Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also reply to it:

>

> The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser problems in any

> given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will fluctuate with

> more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is the chart of a

> given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is badly

> afflicted.

> Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

>

> Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The results of all

> houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent are those

> grahas

> whose period is going on. The results depend upon the relative placement

> of

> the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can be taken as

> " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The placement in trik

> houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics both from the

> lagna

> and the house under consideration is checked (Many check this placement

> from

> Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked. Their mutual

> placement to each other is checked.

>

> Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events. Dasha periods

> are

> often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is then the

> transits

> are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the dasha periods,

> but, they act as triggers for an event.

>

> Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi. These

> principles

> help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage of Nakshatra

> placement and its change of result is an important feature.

>

> If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study of some of the

> classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain an attitude of

> a

> " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses only those with

> " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related to complexes

> and

> egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and not " show " it to

> seem true to others.

>

> In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is important to

> pick

> and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get into groups but

> remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and others are

> wrong "

> is the first step in being more ignorant than one already is. From people

> who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who do other

> adharmic

> activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient, knowledgeable and kind

> members, you learn what to do.

>

> Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord. Not you and I.

> Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should not proclaim by

> doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord decide that. The

> more

> you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on your own attitude

> and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get into the cycle of

> fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be on yourself

> when

> it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word, nowadays, it seems in

> the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind and gentle

> members

> who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

>

> Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked correctly

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 8/8/07, Tarun <tarun.virgo <tarun.virgo%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Senior Astrologers,

> >

> > Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet astrology.

> >

> > 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa)

> > 2. To use Transits too.

> > 3. Speak by God's grace only.

> > 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback response by

> > Native is provided)

> >

> > As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails.(one

> > can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response they can

> > give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image

> >

> > But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for sure

> > he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this

> > birth.

> >

> > I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

*Om mahaganapataye namah*

Dear Tarun,

Good posting.

You have asked to share the way one go for predictions,on internet.

By now beautiful mail from Bharat has apperaed.

We must first understand in what state astrology is on internet

before a meaning ful answer is possible.

One can agree to following classification.

1. Mass astrology used to woo clients and sell all kinds of mani

mantra yantra etc using terms like ,kaalsarpa,sadesati,mangal dosa

and the like terminology.

2.Instant astrology combining all they are conversant with like

numerology,transits,name akshar,moon position and lalkitaab or

common sayings,like broadcast on TV.

3.Serious astrolgers practising inolved in finding correct

astrological chart for native in question, studying past and future

from prasna chart and then casting natal chart and working out

problems and stumbling blocks from past karma of native.They are

usually regular in spiritual practices and predict using all

knowldge they have gained by experience.

4.Senior Gurus the famus one who teaches

astrology and allied mantra mani and aushdhi and responds

diligintaly to questions of learners on groups,but never predicts

about future. Never never, for they know they may fail and damage

hard earned status.

Now you can understand what answers you are likely to get of your

question in this scenerio.

The bottom line is on internet astrology is not for consultations

but is for shatrath, to prove supermacy and knowledge.

I appreciate your comments in last part of mails.

Experts may forgive me,Dear reader if you are a expert,I am not

addressing you.

 

OM TAT SAT

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Dear Bharat ji,

>

> Thanks for your mail.

>

> Sir since you are into astrology from long time , you are atleast

> senior to me :-)

>

>

> yes thats the exact thing that people just play with many natives

by

> providing them baseless predictions., and as native mostly donot

give

> feedback, they feel like a good astrolger in themselves.

>

>

>

> Yes i have seen his KN Rao ji's and other members mails in

archives

> which are full of information.

>

>

>

>

> > Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also

reply

> to it:

> >

> > The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser

problems

> in any

> > given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will

fluctuate

> with

> > more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is the

> chart of a

> > given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is

badly

> afflicted.

> > Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

>

> Yes ashtakavarga is one of the required knowledge too, as KAS

method

> is purely on astakvarga.

>

>

> > Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The

results

> of all

> > houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent are

> those grahas

> > whose period is going on. The results depend upon the relative

> placement of

> > the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can be

> taken as

> > " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The placement

in

> trik

> > houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics both

from

> the lagna

> > and the house under consideration is checked (Many check this

> placement from

> > Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked. Their

mutual

> > placement to each other is checked.

>

> I do prefer the same method for judgement according to dasha. But

> some horoscopes which contain conjuctions of more planets becomes

> specific in judgement from this method.

>

>

>

> > Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events. Dasha

> periods are

> > often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is then

the

> transits

> > are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the dasha

> periods,

> > but, they act as triggers for an event.

>

> I try to justify the past events with the degree of planetry

> influence during transit and then analyse those degrees. Cant

explain

> but i use it too.

>

>

>

> > Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi. These

> principles

> > help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage of

> Nakshatra

> > placement and its change of result is an important feature.

>

>

> Yes nakshatra gives information that planet would be effective or

> not. in its dasha or mahadasha, like if Guru is in Rahu's

nakshatra

> it wont be able to deliver results...in my view.

>

>

>

> > If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study of

some

> of the

> > classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain an

> attitude of a

> > " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses only

> those with

> > " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related to

> complexes and

> > egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and

not " show "

> it to

> > seem true to others.

>

> I have God's grace in this regard that I can dig things to find

out

> what i need to know.

>

> Sir those who feel as egoist are not egoist but they have proud of

> doing good karma but yes Ego should be avoided. As many

astrologers

> in other forum make it personal issue if someone points on there

> predicitive skills. and creates abusive mails for the person who

is

> pointing him.

>

>

> > In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is

> important to pick

> > and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get into

> groups but

> > remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and others

> are wrong "

> > is the first step in being more ignorant than one already is.

From

> people

> > who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who do

other

> adharmic

> > activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient,

knowledgeable

> and kind

> > members, you learn what to do.

>

> Sir whoever has mind he wont follow blindly, but he will try to

> explore all the techniques becuse he need to help others.

> He wil learn Parashari, KP, Jaimini everything because every

system

> has many secrets.

> and true astrologer want to help native.

>

>

>

> > Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord. Not

you

> and I.

> > Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should not

> proclaim by

> > doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord decide

that.

> The more

> > you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on your own

> attitude

> > and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get into

the

> cycle of

> > fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be on

> yourself when

> > it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word, nowadays, it

> seems in

> > the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind and

> gentle members

> > who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

>

> Yes true, we are who to talk of sins, its the innerself ( zamir )

of

> person to tell him that he is incuring sins by providing wrong

> predictons.

>

> My main aim on these forum is to learn future prediction of

native,

> Past can be told by anyone, but who can tell the EXACT future and

can

> tell mind of person.

>

> My method is little different in terms of predictive part for a

> person. I try to analyse that what is in person's mind and what

> condition are suitable to him. So i first try to observe lagna and

> moon's conjuction. and then see the query part.

>

> Yes i am not expert yet in predictive part so i stay silent as my

> innerself donot allow me to play.

>

>

> > Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked

correctly

>

> Yes sir your mail was very informative and thoughtful & Written in

> freshmood.

>

>

>

> Warm Regrds,

>

> Tarun

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Srivastavji,

 

//Senior Gurus the famus one who teaches

> astrology and allied mantra mani and aushdhi and responds

> diligintaly to questions of learners on groups,but never predicts

> about future. Never never, for they know they may fail and damage

> hard earned status.//

 

Sir, if they fear of failure then they cannot be called

Guru in the first place.they are not supposed to exist.

 

By status if you mean spiritual status earned by regular

japa and tapa, if people think by predicting they are wasting

the good results received from this japa and tapa, then they

are the most foolish in the spiritual lot.

 

I dont mind personally if my spiritual Japa and tapa

is wasted if I give a prediction to a poor man to become

wealthy, though its not written in his horoscope, but becomes

so because of my prediction and proclamation supported by my

japa and tapa.

 

When one sits on the seat of a astrologer which is basically

meant to help a native in need and troubled times,

one is not supposed to care whether his japa and tapa is

wasted. My intention should only be one. that, is how

to bring relief to the native coming to me for help.

 

Only That one motive, nothing else. Help.

 

" Na Main Na parmatma, parantu

sirf woh ,

joh aaya mere paas kuch madad ke

liye. "

 

Apna fayda sirf dekha toh kya dekha ?

Uska fayda karke dekho ,

tumhara,apne aap,parmatma karva dega.

 

Tum besahara ho toh kisika sahara bano.

tumko apne aap hi sahara mil jayega.

 

Kashti koi doobti lagado kinaare pe,

tumko apne aap hi kinaara mil jayega.

 

 

Jisme dum nahin future predict karne ka , woh kya

Guru hua ya phir kya astrologer hua ?

 

Chhodon bekaar ki batoon ko,

kahin beet na jaaye raina.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " R.C.Srivastava " <swami_rcs

wrote:

>

>

>

> *Om mahaganapataye namah*

> Dear Tarun,

> Good posting.

> You have asked to share the way one go for predictions,on internet.

> By now beautiful mail from Bharat has apperaed.

> We must first understand in what state astrology is on internet

> before a meaning ful answer is possible.

> One can agree to following classification.

> 1. Mass astrology used to woo clients and sell all kinds of mani

> mantra yantra etc using terms like ,kaalsarpa,sadesati,mangal dosa

> and the like terminology.

> 2.Instant astrology combining all they are conversant with like

> numerology,transits,name akshar,moon position and lalkitaab or

> common sayings,like broadcast on TV.

> 3.Serious astrolgers practising inolved in finding correct

> astrological chart for native in question, studying past and future

> from prasna chart and then casting natal chart and working out

> problems and stumbling blocks from past karma of native.They are

> usually regular in spiritual practices and predict using all

> knowldge they have gained by experience.

> 4.Senior Gurus the famus one who teaches

> astrology and allied mantra mani and aushdhi and responds

> diligintaly to questions of learners on groups,but never predicts

> about future. Never never, for they know they may fail and damage

> hard earned status.

> Now you can understand what answers you are likely to get of your

> question in this scenerio.

> The bottom line is on internet astrology is not for consultations

> but is for shatrath, to prove supermacy and knowledge.

> I appreciate your comments in last part of mails.

> Experts may forgive me,Dear reader if you are a expert,I am not

> addressing you.

>

> OM TAT SAT

> , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bharat ji,

> >

> > Thanks for your mail.

> >

> > Sir since you are into astrology from long time , you are atleast

> > senior to me :-)

> >

> >

> > yes thats the exact thing that people just play with many natives

> by

> > providing them baseless predictions., and as native mostly donot

> give

> > feedback, they feel like a good astrolger in themselves.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes i have seen his KN Rao ji's and other members mails in

> archives

> > which are full of information.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also

> reply

> > to it:

> > >

> > > The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser

> problems

> > in any

> > > given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will

> fluctuate

> > with

> > > more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is the

> > chart of a

> > > given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is

> badly

> > afflicted.

> > > Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

> >

> > Yes ashtakavarga is one of the required knowledge too, as KAS

> method

> > is purely on astakvarga.

> >

> >

> > > Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The

> results

> > of all

> > > houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent are

> > those grahas

> > > whose period is going on. The results depend upon the relative

> > placement of

> > > the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can be

> > taken as

> > > " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The placement

> in

> > trik

> > > houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics both

> from

> > the lagna

> > > and the house under consideration is checked (Many check this

> > placement from

> > > Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked. Their

> mutual

> > > placement to each other is checked.

> >

> > I do prefer the same method for judgement according to dasha. But

> > some horoscopes which contain conjuctions of more planets becomes

> > specific in judgement from this method.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events. Dasha

> > periods are

> > > often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is then

> the

> > transits

> > > are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the dasha

> > periods,

> > > but, they act as triggers for an event.

> >

> > I try to justify the past events with the degree of planetry

> > influence during transit and then analyse those degrees. Cant

> explain

> > but i use it too.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi. These

> > principles

> > > help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage of

> > Nakshatra

> > > placement and its change of result is an important feature.

> >

> >

> > Yes nakshatra gives information that planet would be effective or

> > not. in its dasha or mahadasha, like if Guru is in Rahu's

> nakshatra

> > it wont be able to deliver results...in my view.

> >

> >

> >

> > > If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study of

> some

> > of the

> > > classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain an

> > attitude of a

> > > " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses only

> > those with

> > > " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related to

> > complexes and

> > > egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and

> not " show "

> > it to

> > > seem true to others.

> >

> > I have God's grace in this regard that I can dig things to find

> out

> > what i need to know.

> >

> > Sir those who feel as egoist are not egoist but they have proud of

> > doing good karma but yes Ego should be avoided. As many

> astrologers

> > in other forum make it personal issue if someone points on there

> > predicitive skills. and creates abusive mails for the person who

> is

> > pointing him.

> >

> >

> > > In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is

> > important to pick

> > > and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get into

> > groups but

> > > remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and others

> > are wrong "

> > > is the first step in being more ignorant than one already is.

> From

> > people

> > > who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who do

> other

> > adharmic

> > > activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient,

> knowledgeable

> > and kind

> > > members, you learn what to do.

> >

> > Sir whoever has mind he wont follow blindly, but he will try to

> > explore all the techniques becuse he need to help others.

> > He wil learn Parashari, KP, Jaimini everything because every

> system

> > has many secrets.

> > and true astrologer want to help native.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord. Not

> you

> > and I.

> > > Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should not

> > proclaim by

> > > doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord decide

> that.

> > The more

> > > you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on your own

> > attitude

> > > and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get into

> the

> > cycle of

> > > fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be on

> > yourself when

> > > it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word, nowadays, it

> > seems in

> > > the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind and

> > gentle members

> > > who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

> >

> > Yes true, we are who to talk of sins, its the innerself ( zamir )

> of

> > person to tell him that he is incuring sins by providing wrong

> > predictons.

> >

> > My main aim on these forum is to learn future prediction of

> native,

> > Past can be told by anyone, but who can tell the EXACT future and

> can

> > tell mind of person.

> >

> > My method is little different in terms of predictive part for a

> > person. I try to analyse that what is in person's mind and what

> > condition are suitable to him. So i first try to observe lagna and

> > moon's conjuction. and then see the query part.

> >

> > Yes i am not expert yet in predictive part so i stay silent as my

> > innerself donot allow me to play.

> >

> >

> > > Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked

> correctly

> >

> > Yes sir your mail was very informative and thoughtful & Written in

> > freshmood.

> >

> >

> >

> > Warm Regrds,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

>

[Guest guest]

DEAR TARUNJI,

 

Dasha is the only Pointer to prediction. When the native

comes for help,the good astrologer has to check the current

dasha and tell the problem for which the native has come ?

Is there any other way to check ?

 

For the past, the past dashas have to be seen,

for the future the future Vimsottari dashas have to be seen.

So those oversmart misplaced buddhi talk otherwise, then its

their nemesis.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Dear Bharat ji,

>

> Thanks for your mail.

>

> Sir since you are into astrology from long time , you are atleast

> senior to me :-)

>

>

> yes thats the exact thing that people just play with many natives by

> providing them baseless predictions., and as native mostly donot give

> feedback, they feel like a good astrolger in themselves.

>

>

>

> Yes i have seen his KN Rao ji's and other members mails in archives

> which are full of information.

>

>

>

>

> > Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also reply

> to it:

> >

> > The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser problems

> in any

> > given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will fluctuate

> with

> > more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is the

> chart of a

> > given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is badly

> afflicted.

> > Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

>

> Yes ashtakavarga is one of the required knowledge too, as KAS method

> is purely on astakvarga.

>

>

> > Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The results

> of all

> > houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent are

> those grahas

> > whose period is going on. The results depend upon the relative

> placement of

> > the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can be

> taken as

> > " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The placement in

> trik

> > houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics both from

> the lagna

> > and the house under consideration is checked (Many check this

> placement from

> > Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked. Their mutual

> > placement to each other is checked.

>

> I do prefer the same method for judgement according to dasha. But

> some horoscopes which contain conjuctions of more planets becomes

> specific in judgement from this method.

>

>

>

> > Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events. Dasha

> periods are

> > often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is then the

> transits

> > are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the dasha

> periods,

> > but, they act as triggers for an event.

>

> I try to justify the past events with the degree of planetry

> influence during transit and then analyse those degrees. Cant explain

> but i use it too.

>

>

>

> > Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi. These

> principles

> > help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage of

> Nakshatra

> > placement and its change of result is an important feature.

>

>

> Yes nakshatra gives information that planet would be effective or

> not. in its dasha or mahadasha, like if Guru is in Rahu's nakshatra

> it wont be able to deliver results...in my view.

>

>

>

> > If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study of some

> of the

> > classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain an

> attitude of a

> > " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses only

> those with

> > " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related to

> complexes and

> > egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and not " show "

> it to

> > seem true to others.

>

> I have God's grace in this regard that I can dig things to find out

> what i need to know.

>

> Sir those who feel as egoist are not egoist but they have proud of

> doing good karma but yes Ego should be avoided. As many astrologers

> in other forum make it personal issue if someone points on there

> predicitive skills. and creates abusive mails for the person who is

> pointing him.

>

>

> > In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is

> important to pick

> > and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get into

> groups but

> > remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and others

> are wrong "

> > is the first step in being more ignorant than one already is. From

> people

> > who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who do other

> adharmic

> > activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient, knowledgeable

> and kind

> > members, you learn what to do.

>

> Sir whoever has mind he wont follow blindly, but he will try to

> explore all the techniques becuse he need to help others.

> He wil learn Parashari, KP, Jaimini everything because every system

> has many secrets.

> and true astrologer want to help native.

>

>

>

> > Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord. Not you

> and I.

> > Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should not

> proclaim by

> > doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord decide that.

> The more

> > you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on your own

> attitude

> > and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get into the

> cycle of

> > fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be on

> yourself when

> > it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word, nowadays, it

> seems in

> > the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind and

> gentle members

> > who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

>

> Yes true, we are who to talk of sins, its the innerself ( zamir ) of

> person to tell him that he is incuring sins by providing wrong

> predictons.

>

> My main aim on these forum is to learn future prediction of native,

> Past can be told by anyone, but who can tell the EXACT future and can

> tell mind of person.

>

> My method is little different in terms of predictive part for a

> person. I try to analyse that what is in person's mind and what

> condition are suitable to him. So i first try to observe lagna and

> moon's conjuction. and then see the query part.

>

> Yes i am not expert yet in predictive part so i stay silent as my

> innerself donot allow me to play.

>

>

> > Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked correctly

>

> Yes sir your mail was very informative and thoughtful & Written in

> freshmood.

>

>

>

> Warm Regrds,

>

> Tarun

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Bhaskar,

 

One more pointer.

 

We should not forget that one dasha hands over the next dasa very

nicely. What I mean is that seeding for the events for a future dasa

should have happened in one of the earlie dasas.

 

If you observe, typically, the last antardasa of any maha dasa gives

a glimpse (or a snapshot) of the next mahadasa.

 

Regards,

Satya S Kolachina

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> DEAR TARUNJI,

>

> Dasha is the only Pointer to prediction. When the native

> comes for help,the good astrologer has to check the current

> dasha and tell the problem for which the native has come ?

> Is there any other way to check ?

>

> For the past, the past dashas have to be seen,

> for the future the future Vimsottari dashas have to be seen.

> So those oversmart misplaced buddhi talk otherwise, then its

> their nemesis.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bharat ji,

> >

> > Thanks for your mail.

> >

> > Sir since you are into astrology from long time , you are

atleast

> > senior to me :-)

> >

> >

> > yes thats the exact thing that people just play with many

natives by

> > providing them baseless predictions., and as native mostly donot

give

> > feedback, they feel like a good astrolger in themselves.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes i have seen his KN Rao ji's and other members mails in

archives

> > which are full of information.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also

reply

> > to it:

> > >

> > > The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser

problems

> > in any

> > > given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will

fluctuate

> > with

> > > more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is

the

> > chart of a

> > > given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is

badly

> > afflicted.

> > > Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

> >

> > Yes ashtakavarga is one of the required knowledge too, as KAS

method

> > is purely on astakvarga.

> >

> >

> > > Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The

results

> > of all

> > > houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent

are

> > those grahas

> > > whose period is going on. The results depend upon the relative

> > placement of

> > > the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can be

> > taken as

> > > " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The

placement in

> > trik

> > > houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics both

from

> > the lagna

> > > and the house under consideration is checked (Many check this

> > placement from

> > > Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked. Their

mutual

> > > placement to each other is checked.

> >

> > I do prefer the same method for judgement according to dasha.

But

> > some horoscopes which contain conjuctions of more planets

becomes

> > specific in judgement from this method.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events.

Dasha

> > periods are

> > > often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is then

the

> > transits

> > > are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the

dasha

> > periods,

> > > but, they act as triggers for an event.

> >

> > I try to justify the past events with the degree of planetry

> > influence during transit and then analyse those degrees. Cant

explain

> > but i use it too.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi.

These

> > principles

> > > help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage of

> > Nakshatra

> > > placement and its change of result is an important feature.

> >

> >

> > Yes nakshatra gives information that planet would be effective

or

> > not. in its dasha or mahadasha, like if Guru is in Rahu's

nakshatra

> > it wont be able to deliver results...in my view.

> >

> >

> >

> > > If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study of

some

> > of the

> > > classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain an

> > attitude of a

> > > " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses only

> > those with

> > > " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related to

> > complexes and

> > > egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and

not " show "

> > it to

> > > seem true to others.

> >

> > I have God's grace in this regard that I can dig things to find

out

> > what i need to know.

> >

> > Sir those who feel as egoist are not egoist but they have proud

of

> > doing good karma but yes Ego should be avoided. As many

astrologers

> > in other forum make it personal issue if someone points on there

> > predicitive skills. and creates abusive mails for the person who

is

> > pointing him.

> >

> >

> > > In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is

> > important to pick

> > > and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get

into

> > groups but

> > > remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and

others

> > are wrong "

> > > is the first step in being more ignorant than one already is.

From

> > people

> > > who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who do

other

> > adharmic

> > > activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient,

knowledgeable

> > and kind

> > > members, you learn what to do.

> >

> > Sir whoever has mind he wont follow blindly, but he will try to

> > explore all the techniques becuse he need to help others.

> > He wil learn Parashari, KP, Jaimini everything because every

system

> > has many secrets.

> > and true astrologer want to help native.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord. Not

you

> > and I.

> > > Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should not

> > proclaim by

> > > doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord decide

that.

> > The more

> > > you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on your

own

> > attitude

> > > and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get into

the

> > cycle of

> > > fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be on

> > yourself when

> > > it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word, nowadays,

it

> > seems in

> > > the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind and

> > gentle members

> > > who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

> >

> > Yes true, we are who to talk of sins, its the innerself (

zamir ) of

> > person to tell him that he is incuring sins by providing wrong

> > predictons.

> >

> > My main aim on these forum is to learn future prediction of

native,

> > Past can be told by anyone, but who can tell the EXACT future

and can

> > tell mind of person.

> >

> > My method is little different in terms of predictive part for a

> > person. I try to analyse that what is in person's mind and what

> > condition are suitable to him. So i first try to observe lagna

and

> > moon's conjuction. and then see the query part.

> >

> > Yes i am not expert yet in predictive part so i stay silent as

my

> > innerself donot allow me to play.

> >

> >

> > > Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked

correctly

> >

> > Yes sir your mail was very informative and thoughtful & Written

in

> > freshmood.

> >

> >

> >

> > Warm Regrds,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Shree Satyaji,

 

of course. Agreed to every word.

If you notice I mentioned to one Member either

today or yesterday that in his next dasha he would

have problems of litigations due to signing of

Documents related to property sale,

which he conformed.I also told him that

the seeds would be bowed in this current

antardasha, which he agreed to as happenning.

 

same for last antardasha to any new Mahadasha

as Your Goodself rightly said.

all seeds are bowed previously for the results

we see today.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Satya Sai Kolachina "

<skolachi wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Bhaskar,

>

> One more pointer.

>

> We should not forget that one dasha hands over the next dasa very

> nicely. What I mean is that seeding for the events for a future dasa

> should have happened in one of the earlie dasas.

>

> If you observe, typically, the last antardasa of any maha dasa gives

> a glimpse (or a snapshot) of the next mahadasa.

>

> Regards,

> Satya S Kolachina

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > DEAR TARUNJI,

> >

> > Dasha is the only Pointer to prediction. When the native

> > comes for help,the good astrologer has to check the current

> > dasha and tell the problem for which the native has come ?

> > Is there any other way to check ?

> >

> > For the past, the past dashas have to be seen,

> > for the future the future Vimsottari dashas have to be seen.

> > So those oversmart misplaced buddhi talk otherwise, then its

> > their nemesis.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bharat ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your mail.

> > >

> > > Sir since you are into astrology from long time , you are

> atleast

> > > senior to me :-)

> > >

> > >

> > > yes thats the exact thing that people just play with many

> natives by

> > > providing them baseless predictions., and as native mostly donot

> give

> > > feedback, they feel like a good astrolger in themselves.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes i have seen his KN Rao ji's and other members mails in

> archives

> > > which are full of information.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also

> reply

> > > to it:

> > > >

> > > > The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser

> problems

> > > in any

> > > > given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will

> fluctuate

> > > with

> > > > more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is

> the

> > > chart of a

> > > > given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is

> badly

> > > afflicted.

> > > > Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

> > >

> > > Yes ashtakavarga is one of the required knowledge too, as KAS

> method

> > > is purely on astakvarga.

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The

> results

> > > of all

> > > > houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent

> are

> > > those grahas

> > > > whose period is going on. The results depend upon the relative

> > > placement of

> > > > the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can be

> > > taken as

> > > > " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The

> placement in

> > > trik

> > > > houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics both

> from

> > > the lagna

> > > > and the house under consideration is checked (Many check this

> > > placement from

> > > > Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked. Their

> mutual

> > > > placement to each other is checked.

> > >

> > > I do prefer the same method for judgement according to dasha.

> But

> > > some horoscopes which contain conjuctions of more planets

> becomes

> > > specific in judgement from this method.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events.

> Dasha

> > > periods are

> > > > often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is then

> the

> > > transits

> > > > are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the

> dasha

> > > periods,

> > > > but, they act as triggers for an event.

> > >

> > > I try to justify the past events with the degree of planetry

> > > influence during transit and then analyse those degrees. Cant

> explain

> > > but i use it too.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi.

> These

> > > principles

> > > > help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage of

> > > Nakshatra

> > > > placement and its change of result is an important feature.

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes nakshatra gives information that planet would be effective

> or

> > > not. in its dasha or mahadasha, like if Guru is in Rahu's

> nakshatra

> > > it wont be able to deliver results...in my view.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study of

> some

> > > of the

> > > > classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain an

> > > attitude of a

> > > > " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses only

> > > those with

> > > > " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related to

> > > complexes and

> > > > egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and

> not " show "

> > > it to

> > > > seem true to others.

> > >

> > > I have God's grace in this regard that I can dig things to find

> out

> > > what i need to know.

> > >

> > > Sir those who feel as egoist are not egoist but they have proud

> of

> > > doing good karma but yes Ego should be avoided. As many

> astrologers

> > > in other forum make it personal issue if someone points on there

> > > predicitive skills. and creates abusive mails for the person who

> is

> > > pointing him.

> > >

> > >

> > > > In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is

> > > important to pick

> > > > and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get

> into

> > > groups but

> > > > remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and

> others

> > > are wrong "

> > > > is the first step in being more ignorant than one already is.

> From

> > > people

> > > > who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who do

> other

> > > adharmic

> > > > activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient,

> knowledgeable

> > > and kind

> > > > members, you learn what to do.

> > >

> > > Sir whoever has mind he wont follow blindly, but he will try to

> > > explore all the techniques becuse he need to help others.

> > > He wil learn Parashari, KP, Jaimini everything because every

> system

> > > has many secrets.

> > > and true astrologer want to help native.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord. Not

> you

> > > and I.

> > > > Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should not

> > > proclaim by

> > > > doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord decide

> that.

> > > The more

> > > > you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on your

> own

> > > attitude

> > > > and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get into

> the

> > > cycle of

> > > > fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be on

> > > yourself when

> > > > it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word, nowadays,

> it

> > > seems in

> > > > the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind and

> > > gentle members

> > > > who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

> > >

> > > Yes true, we are who to talk of sins, its the innerself (

> zamir ) of

> > > person to tell him that he is incuring sins by providing wrong

> > > predictons.

> > >

> > > My main aim on these forum is to learn future prediction of

> native,

> > > Past can be told by anyone, but who can tell the EXACT future

> and can

> > > tell mind of person.

> > >

> > > My method is little different in terms of predictive part for a

> > > person. I try to analyse that what is in person's mind and what

> > > condition are suitable to him. So i first try to observe lagna

> and

> > > moon's conjuction. and then see the query part.

> > >

> > > Yes i am not expert yet in predictive part so i stay silent as

> my

> > > innerself donot allow me to play.

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked

> correctly

> > >

> > > Yes sir your mail was very informative and thoughtful & Written

> in

> > > freshmood.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Warm Regrds,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

This is very true.

 

Actually Mahadasha, shapes the person like a potter shapes a pot.

 

for example, in this age i am having Satun's MD, which is exalted too.

sitting with moon.

 

and i am very much different from my age group boys.

and this dasha has sown seeds of saturn's principles which will

design my decisions, mind frame, thoughts for whole my life.

 

Actually Dasha is basically what i have observed , that moon slowly

slowly movs to next nakshatra and so my birth moon was in Vishakha,

and now it is in Anuradha which is ruled by saturn. So my current

dasha is of saturn.and ofcourse sublord Guru so Saturn-Guru period

going on.

 

Warm Regards,

 

Tarun

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Shree Satyaji,

>

> of course. Agreed to every word.

> If you notice I mentioned to one Member either

> today or yesterday that in his next dasha he would

> have problems of litigations due to signing of

> Documents related to property sale,

> which he conformed.I also told him that

> the seeds would be bowed in this current

> antardasha, which he agreed to as happenning.

>

> same for last antardasha to any new Mahadasha

> as Your Goodself rightly said.

> all seeds are bowed previously for the results

> we see today.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , " Satya Sai Kolachina "

> <skolachi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sri Bhaskar,

> >

> > One more pointer.

> >

> > We should not forget that one dasha hands over the next dasa very

> > nicely. What I mean is that seeding for the events for a future

dasa

> > should have happened in one of the earlie dasas.

> >

> > If you observe, typically, the last antardasa of any maha dasa

gives

> > a glimpse (or a snapshot) of the next mahadasa.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Satya S Kolachina

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > DEAR TARUNJI,

> > >

> > > Dasha is the only Pointer to prediction. When the native

> > > comes for help,the good astrologer has to check the current

> > > dasha and tell the problem for which the native has come ?

> > > Is there any other way to check ?

> > >

> > > For the past, the past dashas have to be seen,

> > > for the future the future Vimsottari dashas have to be seen.

> > > So those oversmart misplaced buddhi talk otherwise, then its

> > > their nemesis.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bharat ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your mail.

> > > >

> > > > Sir since you are into astrology from long time , you are

> > atleast

> > > > senior to me :-)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > yes thats the exact thing that people just play with many

> > natives by

> > > > providing them baseless predictions., and as native mostly

donot

> > give

> > > > feedback, they feel like a good astrolger in themselves.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yes i have seen his KN Rao ji's and other members mails in

> > archives

> > > > which are full of information.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also

> > reply

> > > > to it:

> > > > >

> > > > > The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser

> > problems

> > > > in any

> > > > > given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will

> > fluctuate

> > > > with

> > > > > more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is

> > the

> > > > chart of a

> > > > > given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is

> > badly

> > > > afflicted.

> > > > > Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

> > > >

> > > > Yes ashtakavarga is one of the required knowledge too, as KAS

> > method

> > > > is purely on astakvarga.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The

> > results

> > > > of all

> > > > > houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent

> > are

> > > > those grahas

> > > > > whose period is going on. The results depend upon the

relative

> > > > placement of

> > > > > the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can

be

> > > > taken as

> > > > > " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The

> > placement in

> > > > trik

> > > > > houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics

both

> > from

> > > > the lagna

> > > > > and the house under consideration is checked (Many check

this

> > > > placement from

> > > > > Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked.

Their

> > mutual

> > > > > placement to each other is checked.

> > > >

> > > > I do prefer the same method for judgement according to dasha.

> > But

> > > > some horoscopes which contain conjuctions of more planets

> > becomes

> > > > specific in judgement from this method.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events.

> > Dasha

> > > > periods are

> > > > > often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is

then

> > the

> > > > transits

> > > > > are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the

> > dasha

> > > > periods,

> > > > > but, they act as triggers for an event.

> > > >

> > > > I try to justify the past events with the degree of planetry

> > > > influence during transit and then analyse those degrees. Cant

> > explain

> > > > but i use it too.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi.

> > These

> > > > principles

> > > > > help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage

of

> > > > Nakshatra

> > > > > placement and its change of result is an important feature.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yes nakshatra gives information that planet would be

effective

> > or

> > > > not. in its dasha or mahadasha, like if Guru is in Rahu's

> > nakshatra

> > > > it wont be able to deliver results...in my view.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study

of

> > some

> > > > of the

> > > > > classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain

an

> > > > attitude of a

> > > > > " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses

only

> > > > those with

> > > > > " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related

to

> > > > complexes and

> > > > > egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and

> > not " show "

> > > > it to

> > > > > seem true to others.

> > > >

> > > > I have God's grace in this regard that I can dig things to

find

> > out

> > > > what i need to know.

> > > >

> > > > Sir those who feel as egoist are not egoist but they have

proud

> > of

> > > > doing good karma but yes Ego should be avoided. As many

> > astrologers

> > > > in other forum make it personal issue if someone points on

there

> > > > predicitive skills. and creates abusive mails for the person

who

> > is

> > > > pointing him.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is

> > > > important to pick

> > > > > and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get

> > into

> > > > groups but

> > > > > remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and

> > others

> > > > are wrong "

> > > > > is the first step in being more ignorant than one already

is.

> > From

> > > > people

> > > > > who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who

do

> > other

> > > > adharmic

> > > > > activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient,

> > knowledgeable

> > > > and kind

> > > > > members, you learn what to do.

> > > >

> > > > Sir whoever has mind he wont follow blindly, but he will try

to

> > > > explore all the techniques becuse he need to help others.

> > > > He wil learn Parashari, KP, Jaimini everything because every

> > system

> > > > has many secrets.

> > > > and true astrologer want to help native.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord.

Not

> > you

> > > > and I.

> > > > > Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should

not

> > > > proclaim by

> > > > > doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord

decide

> > that.

> > > > The more

> > > > > you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on

your

> > own

> > > > attitude

> > > > > and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get

into

> > the

> > > > cycle of

> > > > > fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be

on

> > > > yourself when

> > > > > it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word,

nowadays,

> > it

> > > > seems in

> > > > > the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind

and

> > > > gentle members

> > > > > who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

> > > >

> > > > Yes true, we are who to talk of sins, its the innerself (

> > zamir ) of

> > > > person to tell him that he is incuring sins by providing

wrong

> > > > predictons.

> > > >

> > > > My main aim on these forum is to learn future prediction of

> > native,

> > > > Past can be told by anyone, but who can tell the EXACT future

> > and can

> > > > tell mind of person.

> > > >

> > > > My method is little different in terms of predictive part for

a

> > > > person. I try to analyse that what is in person's mind and

what

> > > > condition are suitable to him. So i first try to observe

lagna

> > and

> > > > moon's conjuction. and then see the query part.

> > > >

> > > > Yes i am not expert yet in predictive part so i stay silent

as

> > my

> > > > innerself donot allow me to play.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked

> > correctly

> > > >

> > > > Yes sir your mail was very informative and thoughtful &

Written

> > in

> > > > freshmood.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Warm Regrds,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Srivastava ji,

 

Thanks for praising.

 

Yes this is true senior astrologers works out on everything.

he uses all interpretation technique he knows.

and true astrologer donot differentiate between the methodology

proved. True Astrologer gives time to analyse chart without competing

with others.

 

But yes the great Guru's never take risk, but in my view they donot

take risk because of wrong data chances (in my view). But if they

want to give they donot care for there prestige because they are sure

for the chart casted they are 100% correct either native is playing.

 

Actually Internet astrology is a very different subject as what i

think because Astrologer gets only the chart of native with one liner

question but if astrologer has to ask him several questions to verfiy

chart or events, he donot get fast response. and that lacks here.

 

 

Warm Regards,

 

Tarun

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " R.C.Srivastava " <swami_rcs

wrote:

>

>

>

> *Om mahaganapataye namah*

> Dear Tarun,

> Good posting.

> You have asked to share the way one go for predictions,on internet.

> By now beautiful mail from Bharat has apperaed.

> We must first understand in what state astrology is on internet

> before a meaning ful answer is possible.

> One can agree to following classification.

> 1. Mass astrology used to woo clients and sell all kinds of mani

> mantra yantra etc using terms like ,kaalsarpa,sadesati,mangal dosa

> and the like terminology.

> 2.Instant astrology combining all they are conversant with like

> numerology,transits,name akshar,moon position and lalkitaab or

> common sayings,like broadcast on TV.

> 3.Serious astrolgers practising inolved in finding correct

> astrological chart for native in question, studying past and future

> from prasna chart and then casting natal chart and working out

> problems and stumbling blocks from past karma of native.They are

> usually regular in spiritual practices and predict using all

> knowldge they have gained by experience.

> 4.Senior Gurus the famus one who teaches

> astrology and allied mantra mani and aushdhi and responds

> diligintaly to questions of learners on groups,but never predicts

> about future. Never never, for they know they may fail and damage

> hard earned status.

> Now you can understand what answers you are likely to get of your

> question in this scenerio.

> The bottom line is on internet astrology is not for consultations

> but is for shatrath, to prove supermacy and knowledge.

> I appreciate your comments in last part of mails.

> Experts may forgive me,Dear reader if you are a expert,I am not

> addressing you.

>

> OM TAT SAT

> , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bharat ji,

> >

> > Thanks for your mail.

> >

> > Sir since you are into astrology from long time , you are atleast

> > senior to me :-)

> >

> >

> > yes thats the exact thing that people just play with many natives

> by

> > providing them baseless predictions., and as native mostly donot

> give

> > feedback, they feel like a good astrolger in themselves.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes i have seen his KN Rao ji's and other members mails in

> archives

> > which are full of information.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also

> reply

> > to it:

> > >

> > > The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser

> problems

> > in any

> > > given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will

> fluctuate

> > with

> > > more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is the

> > chart of a

> > > given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is

> badly

> > afflicted.

> > > Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

> >

> > Yes ashtakavarga is one of the required knowledge too, as KAS

> method

> > is purely on astakvarga.

> >

> >

> > > Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The

> results

> > of all

> > > houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent are

> > those grahas

> > > whose period is going on. The results depend upon the relative

> > placement of

> > > the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can be

> > taken as

> > > " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The placement

> in

> > trik

> > > houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics both

> from

> > the lagna

> > > and the house under consideration is checked (Many check this

> > placement from

> > > Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked. Their

> mutual

> > > placement to each other is checked.

> >

> > I do prefer the same method for judgement according to dasha. But

> > some horoscopes which contain conjuctions of more planets becomes

> > specific in judgement from this method.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events.

Dasha

> > periods are

> > > often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is then

> the

> > transits

> > > are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the dasha

> > periods,

> > > but, they act as triggers for an event.

> >

> > I try to justify the past events with the degree of planetry

> > influence during transit and then analyse those degrees. Cant

> explain

> > but i use it too.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi.

These

> > principles

> > > help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage of

> > Nakshatra

> > > placement and its change of result is an important feature.

> >

> >

> > Yes nakshatra gives information that planet would be effective or

> > not. in its dasha or mahadasha, like if Guru is in Rahu's

> nakshatra

> > it wont be able to deliver results...in my view.

> >

> >

> >

> > > If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study of

> some

> > of the

> > > classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain an

> > attitude of a

> > > " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses only

> > those with

> > > " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related to

> > complexes and

> > > egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and

> not " show "

> > it to

> > > seem true to others.

> >

> > I have God's grace in this regard that I can dig things to find

> out

> > what i need to know.

> >

> > Sir those who feel as egoist are not egoist but they have proud

of

> > doing good karma but yes Ego should be avoided. As many

> astrologers

> > in other forum make it personal issue if someone points on there

> > predicitive skills. and creates abusive mails for the person who

> is

> > pointing him.

> >

> >

> > > In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is

> > important to pick

> > > and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get into

> > groups but

> > > remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and

others

> > are wrong "

> > > is the first step in being more ignorant than one already is.

> From

> > people

> > > who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who do

> other

> > adharmic

> > > activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient,

> knowledgeable

> > and kind

> > > members, you learn what to do.

> >

> > Sir whoever has mind he wont follow blindly, but he will try to

> > explore all the techniques becuse he need to help others.

> > He wil learn Parashari, KP, Jaimini everything because every

> system

> > has many secrets.

> > and true astrologer want to help native.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord. Not

> you

> > and I.

> > > Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should not

> > proclaim by

> > > doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord decide

> that.

> > The more

> > > you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on your

own

> > attitude

> > > and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get into

> the

> > cycle of

> > > fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be on

> > yourself when

> > > it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word, nowadays,

it

> > seems in

> > > the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind and

> > gentle members

> > > who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

> >

> > Yes true, we are who to talk of sins, its the innerself ( zamir )

> of

> > person to tell him that he is incuring sins by providing wrong

> > predictons.

> >

> > My main aim on these forum is to learn future prediction of

> native,

> > Past can be told by anyone, but who can tell the EXACT future and

> can

> > tell mind of person.

> >

> > My method is little different in terms of predictive part for a

> > person. I try to analyse that what is in person's mind and what

> > condition are suitable to him. So i first try to observe lagna

and

> > moon's conjuction. and then see the query part.

> >

> > Yes i am not expert yet in predictive part so i stay silent as my

> > innerself donot allow me to play.

> >

> >

> > > Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked

> correctly

> >

> > Yes sir your mail was very informative and thoughtful & Written

in

> > freshmood.

> >

> >

> >

> > Warm Regrds,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Tarun,

 

Do you mean there is difference between Jyotish and Internet astrology?

 

For Jyotish predictions I would look at natal chart, navamsha strength

of grahas, dasha levels and Transits and then analyze a bhava about

which a question is asked.

 

I do not know anything about fake id.s etc. and so can not comment.

 

Chandrashekhar

 

Tarun wrote:

>

> Hello Senior Astrologers,

>

> Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet astrology.

>

> 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa)

> 2. To use Transits too.

> 3. Speak by God's grace only.

> 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback response by

> Native is provided)

>

> As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails.(one

> can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response they can

> give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image

>

> But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for sure

> he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this

> birth.

>

> I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

>

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>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Tarunji,

 

Though I do not have your Birth details,

but this much information given by you

is enough to connect your behaviour

with the Guru-Saturn combination given by you.

You desire to have company-communications with

those elder to you

by age, whose knowledge comes by experience.

You have developed interest in Occult subjects

which is shown by the main karakas Jupiter

and Saturn .

 

You would not enjoy in company of people

junior to you, but most of your

associates, and friends whom you

like would be elder to you by age and experience.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> This is very true.

>

> Actually Mahadasha, shapes the person like a potter shapes a pot.

>

> for example, in this age i am having Satun's MD, which is exalted too.

> sitting with moon.

>

> and i am very much different from my age group boys.

> and this dasha has sown seeds of saturn's principles which will

> design my decisions, mind frame, thoughts for whole my life.

>

> Actually Dasha is basically what i have observed , that moon slowly

> slowly movs to next nakshatra and so my birth moon was in Vishakha,

> and now it is in Anuradha which is ruled by saturn. So my current

> dasha is of saturn.and ofcourse sublord Guru so Saturn-Guru period

> going on.

>

> Warm Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Shree Satyaji,

> >

> > of course. Agreed to every word.

> > If you notice I mentioned to one Member either

> > today or yesterday that in his next dasha he would

> > have problems of litigations due to signing of

> > Documents related to property sale,

> > which he conformed.I also told him that

> > the seeds would be bowed in this current

> > antardasha, which he agreed to as happenning.

> >

> > same for last antardasha to any new Mahadasha

> > as Your Goodself rightly said.

> > all seeds are bowed previously for the results

> > we see today.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Satya Sai Kolachina "

> > <skolachi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sri Bhaskar,

> > >

> > > One more pointer.

> > >

> > > We should not forget that one dasha hands over the next dasa very

> > > nicely. What I mean is that seeding for the events for a future

> dasa

> > > should have happened in one of the earlie dasas.

> > >

> > > If you observe, typically, the last antardasa of any maha dasa

> gives

> > > a glimpse (or a snapshot) of the next mahadasa.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Satya S Kolachina

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > DEAR TARUNJI,

> > > >

> > > > Dasha is the only Pointer to prediction. When the native

> > > > comes for help,the good astrologer has to check the current

> > > > dasha and tell the problem for which the native has come ?

> > > > Is there any other way to check ?

> > > >

> > > > For the past, the past dashas have to be seen,

> > > > for the future the future Vimsottari dashas have to be seen.

> > > > So those oversmart misplaced buddhi talk otherwise, then its

> > > > their nemesis.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bharat ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your mail.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir since you are into astrology from long time , you are

> > > atleast

> > > > > senior to me :-)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > yes thats the exact thing that people just play with many

> > > natives by

> > > > > providing them baseless predictions., and as native mostly

> donot

> > > give

> > > > > feedback, they feel like a good astrolger in themselves.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes i have seen his KN Rao ji's and other members mails in

> > > archives

> > > > > which are full of information.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also

> > > reply

> > > > > to it:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser

> > > problems

> > > > > in any

> > > > > > given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will

> > > fluctuate

> > > > > with

> > > > > > more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is

> > > the

> > > > > chart of a

> > > > > > given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is

> > > badly

> > > > > afflicted.

> > > > > > Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes ashtakavarga is one of the required knowledge too, as KAS

> > > method

> > > > > is purely on astakvarga.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The

> > > results

> > > > > of all

> > > > > > houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent

> > > are

> > > > > those grahas

> > > > > > whose period is going on. The results depend upon the

> relative

> > > > > placement of

> > > > > > the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can

> be

> > > > > taken as

> > > > > > " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The

> > > placement in

> > > > > trik

> > > > > > houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics

> both

> > > from

> > > > > the lagna

> > > > > > and the house under consideration is checked (Many check

> this

> > > > > placement from

> > > > > > Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked.

> Their

> > > mutual

> > > > > > placement to each other is checked.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do prefer the same method for judgement according to dasha.

> > > But

> > > > > some horoscopes which contain conjuctions of more planets

> > > becomes

> > > > > specific in judgement from this method.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events.

> > > Dasha

> > > > > periods are

> > > > > > often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is

> then

> > > the

> > > > > transits

> > > > > > are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the

> > > dasha

> > > > > periods,

> > > > > > but, they act as triggers for an event.

> > > > >

> > > > > I try to justify the past events with the degree of planetry

> > > > > influence during transit and then analyse those degrees. Cant

> > > explain

> > > > > but i use it too.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi.

> > > These

> > > > > principles

> > > > > > help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage

> of

> > > > > Nakshatra

> > > > > > placement and its change of result is an important feature.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes nakshatra gives information that planet would be

> effective

> > > or

> > > > > not. in its dasha or mahadasha, like if Guru is in Rahu's

> > > nakshatra

> > > > > it wont be able to deliver results...in my view.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study

> of

> > > some

> > > > > of the

> > > > > > classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain

> an

> > > > > attitude of a

> > > > > > " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses

> only

> > > > > those with

> > > > > > " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related

> to

> > > > > complexes and

> > > > > > egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and

> > > not " show "

> > > > > it to

> > > > > > seem true to others.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have God's grace in this regard that I can dig things to

> find

> > > out

> > > > > what i need to know.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir those who feel as egoist are not egoist but they have

> proud

> > > of

> > > > > doing good karma but yes Ego should be avoided. As many

> > > astrologers

> > > > > in other forum make it personal issue if someone points on

> there

> > > > > predicitive skills. and creates abusive mails for the person

> who

> > > is

> > > > > pointing him.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is

> > > > > important to pick

> > > > > > and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get

> > > into

> > > > > groups but

> > > > > > remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and

> > > others

> > > > > are wrong "

> > > > > > is the first step in being more ignorant than one already

> is.

> > > From

> > > > > people

> > > > > > who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who

> do

> > > other

> > > > > adharmic

> > > > > > activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient,

> > > knowledgeable

> > > > > and kind

> > > > > > members, you learn what to do.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir whoever has mind he wont follow blindly, but he will try

> to

> > > > > explore all the techniques becuse he need to help others.

> > > > > He wil learn Parashari, KP, Jaimini everything because every

> > > system

> > > > > has many secrets.

> > > > > and true astrologer want to help native.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord.

> Not

> > > you

> > > > > and I.

> > > > > > Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should

> not

> > > > > proclaim by

> > > > > > doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord

> decide

> > > that.

> > > > > The more

> > > > > > you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on

> your

> > > own

> > > > > attitude

> > > > > > and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get

> into

> > > the

> > > > > cycle of

> > > > > > fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be

> on

> > > > > yourself when

> > > > > > it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word,

> nowadays,

> > > it

> > > > > seems in

> > > > > > the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind

> and

> > > > > gentle members

> > > > > > who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes true, we are who to talk of sins, its the innerself (

> > > zamir ) of

> > > > > person to tell him that he is incuring sins by providing

> wrong

> > > > > predictons.

> > > > >

> > > > > My main aim on these forum is to learn future prediction of

> > > native,

> > > > > Past can be told by anyone, but who can tell the EXACT future

> > > and can

> > > > > tell mind of person.

> > > > >

> > > > > My method is little different in terms of predictive part for

> a

> > > > > person. I try to analyse that what is in person's mind and

> what

> > > > > condition are suitable to him. So i first try to observe

> lagna

> > > and

> > > > > moon's conjuction. and then see the query part.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes i am not expert yet in predictive part so i stay silent

> as

> > > my

> > > > > innerself donot allow me to play.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked

> > > correctly

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes sir your mail was very informative and thoughtful &

> Written

> > > in

> > > > > freshmood.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Warm Regrds,

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Chandrasekharji,

 

These are the basics without one cannot see

the other aspects of the chart. When one studies

the dasha,then these automatically come in picture

and have to be studied mandatorily,and without

saying .

When one checks the Maha Dasha Lord, as to what

it signifies,

he would naturally turn to the Rashi Chart and

the Navamsha Chart, and people like myself who

are into KP, would go into more smaller divisions.

 

When one analyses the Mahadasha and the antardashas

all these aspects which you mentioned, have to be

automatically studied,otherwise how could one talk

what the Mahadasha can offer or what the narrowed

period of antardasha offer ?

 

All these points are understood to , having been

studied before one can predict the current dasha

what problems it carries due to which the native

has come to the astrologer.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Tarun,

>

> Do you mean there is difference between Jyotish and Internet astrology?

>

> For Jyotish predictions I would look at natal chart, navamsha strength

> of grahas, dasha levels and Transits and then analyze a bhava about

> which a question is asked.

>

> I do not know anything about fake id.s etc. and so can not comment.

>

> Chandrashekhar

>

> Tarun wrote:

> >

> > Hello Senior Astrologers,

> >

> > Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet astrology.

> >

> > 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa)

> > 2. To use Transits too.

> > 3. Speak by God's grace only.

> > 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback response by

> > Native is provided)

> >

> > As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails.(one

> > can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response

they can

> > give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image

> >

> > But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for

sure

> > he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this

> > birth.

> >

> > I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

> >

> > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release Date:

8/3/2007 5:46 PM

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar,

 

I answered the question that Tarun asked. I was talking about

traditional Jyotish approach. Or if you are making some other point then

I missed it. If you think predictions could only be made through K.P.

as a different astrological system, that is fine with me.

 

As I understand the navamsha arc in K.P. is done in proportion of

Vimshottari dashas of grahas, so, personally I do not think that it is a

different system only a variation that draws from Satyacharya

principles. But I could, of course, be wrong.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

Bhaskar wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrasekharji,

>

> These are the basics without one cannot see

> the other aspects of the chart. When one studies

> the dasha,then these automatically come in picture

> and have to be studied mandatorily,and without

> saying .

> When one checks the Maha Dasha Lord, as to what

> it signifies,

> he would naturally turn to the Rashi Chart and

> the Navamsha Chart, and people like myself who

> are into KP, would go into more smaller divisions.

>

> When one analyses the Mahadasha and the antardashas

> all these aspects which you mentioned, have to be

> automatically studied,otherwise how could one talk

> what the Mahadasha can offer or what the narrowed

> period of antardasha offer ?

>

> All these points are understood to , having been

> studied before one can predict the current dasha

> what problems it carries due to which the native

> has come to the astrologer.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tarun,

> >

> > Do you mean there is difference between Jyotish and Internet astrology?

> >

> > For Jyotish predictions I would look at natal chart, navamsha strength

> > of grahas, dasha levels and Transits and then analyze a bhava about

> > which a question is asked.

> >

> > I do not know anything about fake id.s etc. and so can not comment.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar

> >

> > Tarun wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Senior Astrologers,

> > >

> > > Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet astrology.

> > >

> > > 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa)

> > > 2. To use Transits too.

> > > 3. Speak by God's grace only.

> > > 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback response by

> > > Native is provided)

> > >

> > > As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails.(one

> > > can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response

> they can

> > > give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image

> > >

> > > But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for

> sure

> > > he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this

> > > birth.

> > >

> > > I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > >

> > >

> -------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release Date:

> 8/3/2007 5:46 PM

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Chandrasekharji,

 

// If you think predictions could only be made through K.P.

> as a different astrological system, that is fine with me.//

 

This means that You too are misunderstanding. I never

think in such manner. You are mis reading my mails, it

seems.

 

//As I understand the navamsha arc in K.P. is done in proportion of

> Vimshottari dashas of grahas, so, personally I do not think that it

is a > different system only a variation that draws from Satyacharya

> principles. //

 

Right.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar,

>

> I answered the question that Tarun asked. I was talking about

> traditional Jyotish approach. Or if you are making some other point

then

> I missed it. If you think predictions could only be made through K.P.

> as a different astrological system, that is fine with me.

>

> As I understand the navamsha arc in K.P. is done in proportion of

> Vimshottari dashas of grahas, so, personally I do not think that it

is a

> different system only a variation that draws from Satyacharya

> principles. But I could, of course, be wrong.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Bhaskar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrasekharji,

> >

> > These are the basics without one cannot see

> > the other aspects of the chart. When one studies

> > the dasha,then these automatically come in picture

> > and have to be studied mandatorily,and without

> > saying .

> > When one checks the Maha Dasha Lord, as to what

> > it signifies,

> > he would naturally turn to the Rashi Chart and

> > the Navamsha Chart, and people like myself who

> > are into KP, would go into more smaller divisions.

> >

> > When one analyses the Mahadasha and the antardashas

> > all these aspects which you mentioned, have to be

> > automatically studied,otherwise how could one talk

> > what the Mahadasha can offer or what the narrowed

> > period of antardasha offer ?

> >

> > All these points are understood to , having been

> > studied before one can predict the current dasha

> > what problems it carries due to which the native

> > has come to the astrologer.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > >

> > > Do you mean there is difference between Jyotish and Internet

astrology?

> > >

> > > For Jyotish predictions I would look at natal chart, navamsha

strength

> > > of grahas, dasha levels and Transits and then analyze a bhava about

> > > which a question is asked.

> > >

> > > I do not know anything about fake id.s etc. and so can not comment.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > >

> > > Tarun wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello Senior Astrologers,

> > > >

> > > > Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet

astrology.

> > > >

> > > > 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa)

> > > > 2. To use Transits too.

> > > > 3. Speak by God's grace only.

> > > > 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback

response by

> > > > Native is provided)

> > > >

> > > > As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan

mails.(one

> > > > can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response

> > they can

> > > > give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image

> > > >

> > > > But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for

> > sure

> > > > he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this

> > > > birth.

> > > >

> > > > I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > -------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release Date:

> > 8/3/2007 5:46 PM

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Chandrashekhar ji,

 

Thanks for your mail.

Thanks for providing the methodology you take while consideration a

chart.

 

No Sir, i am not diffrentiating in Jyotish and Internet Astrology

but i needed to know that do astrologers take Internet astrology

seriously or not.

 

About Fake ids, you can see examples in this forum itself.

 

Warm Regards,

 

Tarun

 

 

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Tarun,

>

> Do you mean there is difference between Jyotish and Internet

astrology?

>

> For Jyotish predictions I would look at natal chart, navamsha

strength

> of grahas, dasha levels and Transits and then analyze a bhava about

> which a question is asked.

>

> I do not know anything about fake id.s etc. and so can not comment.

>

> Chandrashekhar

>

> Tarun wrote:

> >

> > Hello Senior Astrologers,

> >

> > Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet

astrology.

> >

> > 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa)

> > 2. To use Transits too.

> > 3. Speak by God's grace only.

> > 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback

response by

> > Native is provided)

> >

> > As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan mails.

(one

> > can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response

they can

> > give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image

> >

> > But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is

for sure

> > he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this

> > birth.

> >

> > I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

> >

> > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release Date:

8/3/2007 5:46 PM

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

Yes you are absolutely right.

My most of the friends are elder to me. I certainly feel that it is

due to Saturn dasha.

Yes i like to study Occult sciences, as being from technical field ,

i try to explore scientific concepts more.

 

Warm Regards,

 

Tarun

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Tarunji,

>

> Though I do not have your Birth details,

> but this much information given by you

> is enough to connect your behaviour

> with the Guru-Saturn combination given by you.

> You desire to have company-communications with

> those elder to you

> by age, whose knowledge comes by experience.

> You have developed interest in Occult subjects

> which is shown by the main karakas Jupiter

> and Saturn .

>

> You would not enjoy in company of people

> junior to you, but most of your

> associates, and friends whom you

> like would be elder to you by age and experience.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > This is very true.

> >

> > Actually Mahadasha, shapes the person like a potter shapes a pot.

> >

> > for example, in this age i am having Satun's MD, which is exalted

too.

> > sitting with moon.

> >

> > and i am very much different from my age group boys.

> > and this dasha has sown seeds of saturn's principles which will

> > design my decisions, mind frame, thoughts for whole my life.

> >

> > Actually Dasha is basically what i have observed , that moon

slowly

> > slowly movs to next nakshatra and so my birth moon was in

Vishakha,

> > and now it is in Anuradha which is ruled by saturn. So my current

> > dasha is of saturn.and ofcourse sublord Guru so Saturn-Guru

period

> > going on.

> >

> > Warm Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Shree Satyaji,

> > >

> > > of course. Agreed to every word.

> > > If you notice I mentioned to one Member either

> > > today or yesterday that in his next dasha he would

> > > have problems of litigations due to signing of

> > > Documents related to property sale,

> > > which he conformed.I also told him that

> > > the seeds would be bowed in this current

> > > antardasha, which he agreed to as happenning.

> > >

> > > same for last antardasha to any new Mahadasha

> > > as Your Goodself rightly said.

> > > all seeds are bowed previously for the results

> > > we see today.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina "

> > > <skolachi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sri Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > One more pointer.

> > > >

> > > > We should not forget that one dasha hands over the next dasa

very

> > > > nicely. What I mean is that seeding for the events for a

future

> > dasa

> > > > should have happened in one of the earlie dasas.

> > > >

> > > > If you observe, typically, the last antardasa of any maha

dasa

> > gives

> > > > a glimpse (or a snapshot) of the next mahadasa.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Satya S Kolachina

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > DEAR TARUNJI,

> > > > >

> > > > > Dasha is the only Pointer to prediction. When the native

> > > > > comes for help,the good astrologer has to check the current

> > > > > dasha and tell the problem for which the native has come ?

> > > > > Is there any other way to check ?

> > > > >

> > > > > For the past, the past dashas have to be seen,

> > > > > for the future the future Vimsottari dashas have to be seen.

> > > > > So those oversmart misplaced buddhi talk otherwise, then

its

> > > > > their nemesis.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bharat ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your mail.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir since you are into astrology from long time , you are

> > > > atleast

> > > > > > senior to me :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > yes thats the exact thing that people just play with many

> > > > natives by

> > > > > > providing them baseless predictions., and as native

mostly

> > donot

> > > > give

> > > > > > feedback, they feel like a good astrolger in themselves.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes i have seen his KN Rao ji's and other members mails

in

> > > > archives

> > > > > > which are full of information.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall

also

> > > > reply

> > > > > > to it:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The chart which has inherent strength usually has

lesser

> > > > problems

> > > > > > in any

> > > > > > > given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses

will

> > > > fluctuate

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > more problems in most dashas. The important point is

how is

> > > > the

> > > > > > chart of a

> > > > > > > given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or

it is

> > > > badly

> > > > > > afflicted.

> > > > > > > Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes ashtakavarga is one of the required knowledge too, as

KAS

> > > > method

> > > > > > is purely on astakvarga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event.

The

> > > > results

> > > > > > of all

> > > > > > > houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however

prominent

> > > > are

> > > > > > those grahas

> > > > > > > whose period is going on. The results depend upon the

> > relative

> > > > > > placement of

> > > > > > > the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house

can

> > be

> > > > > > taken as

> > > > > > > " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The

> > > > placement in

> > > > > > trik

> > > > > > > houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics

> > both

> > > > from

> > > > > > the lagna

> > > > > > > and the house under consideration is checked (Many

check

> > this

> > > > > > placement from

> > > > > > > Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked.

> > Their

> > > > mutual

> > > > > > > placement to each other is checked.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do prefer the same method for judgement according to

dasha.

> > > > But

> > > > > > some horoscopes which contain conjuctions of more planets

> > > > becomes

> > > > > > specific in judgement from this method.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Transits are checked with respect to triggering of

events.

> > > > Dasha

> > > > > > periods are

> > > > > > > often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It

is

> > then

> > > > the

> > > > > > transits

> > > > > > > are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon

the

> > > > dasha

> > > > > > periods,

> > > > > > > but, they act as triggers for an event.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I try to justify the past events with the degree of

planetry

> > > > > > influence during transit and then analyse those degrees.

Cant

> > > > explain

> > > > > > but i use it too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and

Tithi.

> > > > These

> > > > > > principles

> > > > > > > help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this,

usage

> > of

> > > > > > Nakshatra

> > > > > > > placement and its change of result is an important

feature.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes nakshatra gives information that planet would be

> > effective

> > > > or

> > > > > > not. in its dasha or mahadasha, like if Guru is in Rahu's

> > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > it wont be able to deliver results...in my view.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up

study

> > of

> > > > some

> > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus

maintain

> > an

> > > > > > attitude of a

> > > > > > > " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati

blesses

> > only

> > > > > > those with

> > > > > > > " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems

related

> > to

> > > > > > complexes and

> > > > > > > egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself

and

> > > > not " show "

> > > > > > it to

> > > > > > > seem true to others.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have God's grace in this regard that I can dig things

to

> > find

> > > > out

> > > > > > what i need to know.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir those who feel as egoist are not egoist but they have

> > proud

> > > > of

> > > > > > doing good karma but yes Ego should be avoided. As many

> > > > astrologers

> > > > > > in other forum make it personal issue if someone points

on

> > there

> > > > > > predicitive skills. and creates abusive mails for the

person

> > who

> > > > is

> > > > > > pointing him.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it

is

> > > > > > important to pick

> > > > > > > and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to

get

> > > > into

> > > > > > groups but

> > > > > > > remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right

and

> > > > others

> > > > > > are wrong "

> > > > > > > is the first step in being more ignorant than one

already

> > is.

> > > > From

> > > > > > people

> > > > > > > who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or

who

> > do

> > > > other

> > > > > > adharmic

> > > > > > > activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient,

> > > > knowledgeable

> > > > > > and kind

> > > > > > > members, you learn what to do.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir whoever has mind he wont follow blindly, but he will

try

> > to

> > > > > > explore all the techniques becuse he need to help others.

> > > > > > He wil learn Parashari, KP, Jaimini everything because

every

> > > > system

> > > > > > has many secrets.

> > > > > > and true astrologer want to help native.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the

Lord.

> > Not

> > > > you

> > > > > > and I.

> > > > > > > Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You

should

> > not

> > > > > > proclaim by

> > > > > > > doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord

> > decide

> > > > that.

> > > > > > The more

> > > > > > > you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on

> > your

> > > > own

> > > > > > attitude

> > > > > > > and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will

get

> > into

> > > > the

> > > > > > cycle of

> > > > > > > fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light

be

> > on

> > > > > > yourself when

> > > > > > > it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word,

> > nowadays,

> > > > it

> > > > > > seems in

> > > > > > > the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very

kind

> > and

> > > > > > gentle members

> > > > > > > who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes true, we are who to talk of sins, its the innerself (

> > > > zamir ) of

> > > > > > person to tell him that he is incuring sins by providing

> > wrong

> > > > > > predictons.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My main aim on these forum is to learn future prediction

of

> > > > native,

> > > > > > Past can be told by anyone, but who can tell the EXACT

future

> > > > and can

> > > > > > tell mind of person.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My method is little different in terms of predictive part

for

> > a

> > > > > > person. I try to analyse that what is in person's mind

and

> > what

> > > > > > condition are suitable to him. So i first try to observe

> > lagna

> > > > and

> > > > > > moon's conjuction. and then see the query part.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes i am not expert yet in predictive part so i stay

silent

> > as

> > > > my

> > > > > > innerself donot allow me to play.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions

asked

> > > > correctly

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes sir your mail was very informative and thoughtful &

> > Written

> > > > in

> > > > > > freshmood.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Warm Regrds,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tarun

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

*Om mahaganapataye namah*

Dear Bhaskarji,

I am responding to part of your mail.

By Senior gurus i meant Jyotish teachers, because of costant

repetetion they become clear on jyotish concepts.

Now such Teachers become well known for they have digested the

techniques and are comfortable with demonstration of application on

selected charts.It is a skill gained.This is one side of a coin.

Traditional belief and practice is Each astrologer including

teachers under reference are required to do daily Japa etc

and there are various rules associated with Readings of a chart,when

to read and when to postpone, So most of them avoid predicting since

they may not be doing regular worship or may not be fine with their

sattivk conduct.

Question of blessing from their earned spiritual merit arises only

for saints.Jyotish Gurus are far away from that state.

Hope i am clear in expression.

With kind regards.

Re: Is Dasha -- final judgement to give predictions ??

Posted by: " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish bhaskar_jyotish

Wed Aug 8, 2007 10:16 am (PST)

Dear Srivastavji,

 

//Senior Gurus the famus one who teaches

> astrology and allied mantra mani and aushdhi and responds

> diligintaly to questions of learners on groups,but never predicts

> about future. Never never, for they know they may fail and damage

> hard earned status.//

 

Sir, if they fear of failure then they cannot be called

Guru in the first place.they are not supposed to exist.

 

By status if you mean spiritual status earned by regular

japa and tapa, if people think by predicting they are wasting

the good results received from this japa and tapa, then they

are the most foolish in the spiritual lot.

 

I dont mind personally if my spiritual Japa and tapa

is wasted if I give a prediction to a poor man to become

wealthy, though its not written in his horoscope, but becomes

so because of my prediction and proclamation supported by my

japa and tapa.

 

When one sits on the seat of a astrologer which is basically

meant to help a native in need and troubled times,

one is not supposed to care whether his japa and tapa is

wasted. My intention should only be one. that, is how

to bring relief to the native coming to me for help.

 

Only That one motive, nothing else. Help.

 

" Na Main Na parmatma, parantu

sirf woh ,

joh aaya mere paas kuch madad ke

liye. "

 

Apna fayda sirf dekha toh kya dekha ?

Uska fayda karke dekho ,

tumhara,apne aap,parmatma karva dega.

 

Tum besahara ho toh kisika sahara bano.

tumko apne aap hi sahara mil jayega.

 

Kashti koi doobti lagado kinaare pe,

tumko apne aap hi kinaara mil jayega.

 

Jisme dum nahin future predict karne ka , woh kya

Guru hua ya phir kya astrologer hua ?

 

Chhodon bekaar ki batoon ko,

kahin beet na jaaye raina.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

Dear Friends,For remedies and readings please visit

http://www.kaalvastu.com as we have closed http://www.cosmograce.com

----------------------

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http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com

Ph 91-562- 2232323 and 4001223

Mob 9412268768

 

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Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy

radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy

our sins, and guide us in the right direction

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Srivastavji,

>

> //Senior Gurus the famus one who teaches

> > astrology and allied mantra mani and aushdhi and responds

> > diligintaly to questions of learners on groups,but never

predicts

> > about future. Never never, for they know they may fail and

damage

> > hard earned status.//

>

> Sir, if they fear of failure then they cannot be called

> Guru in the first place.they are not supposed to exist.

>

> By status if you mean spiritual status earned by regular

> japa and tapa, if people think by predicting they are wasting

> the good results received from this japa and tapa, then they

> are the most foolish in the spiritual lot.

>

> I dont mind personally if my spiritual Japa and tapa

> is wasted if I give a prediction to a poor man to become

> wealthy, though its not written in his horoscope, but becomes

> so because of my prediction and proclamation supported by my

> japa and tapa.

>

> When one sits on the seat of a astrologer which is basically

> meant to help a native in need and troubled times,

> one is not supposed to care whether his japa and tapa is

> wasted. My intention should only be one. that, is how

> to bring relief to the native coming to me for help.

>

> Only That one motive, nothing else. Help.

>

> " Na Main Na parmatma, parantu

> sirf woh ,

> joh aaya mere paas kuch madad ke

> liye. "

>

> Apna fayda sirf dekha toh kya dekha ?

> Uska fayda karke dekho ,

> tumhara,apne aap,parmatma karva dega.

>

> Tum besahara ho toh kisika sahara bano.

> tumko apne aap hi sahara mil jayega.

>

> Kashti koi doobti lagado kinaare pe,

> tumko apne aap hi kinaara mil jayega.

>

>

> Jisme dum nahin future predict karne ka , woh kya

> Guru hua ya phir kya astrologer hua ?

>

> Chhodon bekaar ki batoon ko,

> kahin beet na jaaye raina.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

, " R.C.Srivastava " <swami_rcs@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > *Om mahaganapataye namah*

> > Dear Tarun,

> > Good posting.

> > You have asked to share the way one go for predictions,on

internet.

> > By now beautiful mail from Bharat has apperaed.

> > We must first understand in what state astrology is on internet

> > before a meaning ful answer is possible.

> > One can agree to following classification.

> > 1. Mass astrology used to woo clients and sell all kinds of mani

> > mantra yantra etc using terms like ,kaalsarpa,sadesati,mangal

dosa

> > and the like terminology.

> > 2.Instant astrology combining all they are conversant with like

> > numerology,transits,name akshar,moon position and lalkitaab or

> > common sayings,like broadcast on TV.

> > 3.Serious astrolgers practising inolved in finding correct

> > astrological chart for native in question, studying past and

future

> > from prasna chart and then casting natal chart and working out

> > problems and stumbling blocks from past karma of native.They are

> > usually regular in spiritual practices and predict using all

> > knowldge they have gained by experience.

> > 4.Senior Gurus the famus one who teaches

> > astrology and allied mantra mani and aushdhi and responds

> > diligintaly to questions of learners on groups,but never

predicts

> > about future. Never never, for they know they may fail and

damage

> > hard earned status.

> > Now you can understand what answers you are likely to get of

your

> > question in this scenerio.

> > The bottom line is on internet astrology is not for

consultations

> > but is for shatrath, to prove supermacy and knowledge.

> > I appreciate your comments in last part of mails.

> > Experts may forgive me,Dear reader if you are a expert,I am not

> > addressing you.

> >

> > OM TAT SAT

> > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bharat ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your mail.

> > >

> > > Sir since you are into astrology from long time , you are

atleast

> > > senior to me :-)

> > >

> > >

> > > yes thats the exact thing that people just play with many

natives

> > by

> > > providing them baseless predictions., and as native mostly

donot

> > give

> > > feedback, they feel like a good astrolger in themselves.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes i have seen his KN Rao ji's and other members mails in

> > archives

> > > which are full of information.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also

> > reply

> > > to it:

> > > >

> > > > The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser

> > problems

> > > in any

> > > > given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will

> > fluctuate

> > > with

> > > > more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is

the

> > > chart of a

> > > > given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is

> > badly

> > > afflicted.

> > > > Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

> > >

> > > Yes ashtakavarga is one of the required knowledge too, as KAS

> > method

> > > is purely on astakvarga.

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The

> > results

> > > of all

> > > > houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent

are

> > > those grahas

> > > > whose period is going on. The results depend upon the

relative

> > > placement of

> > > > the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can

be

> > > taken as

> > > > " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The

placement

> > in

> > > trik

> > > > houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics both

> > from

> > > the lagna

> > > > and the house under consideration is checked (Many check

this

> > > placement from

> > > > Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked. Their

> > mutual

> > > > placement to each other is checked.

> > >

> > > I do prefer the same method for judgement according to dasha.

But

> > > some horoscopes which contain conjuctions of more planets

becomes

> > > specific in judgement from this method.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events.

Dasha

> > > periods are

> > > > often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is

then

> > the

> > > transits

> > > > are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the

dasha

> > > periods,

> > > > but, they act as triggers for an event.

> > >

> > > I try to justify the past events with the degree of planetry

> > > influence during transit and then analyse those degrees. Cant

> > explain

> > > but i use it too.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi.

These

> > > principles

> > > > help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage of

> > > Nakshatra

> > > > placement and its change of result is an important feature.

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes nakshatra gives information that planet would be effective

or

> > > not. in its dasha or mahadasha, like if Guru is in Rahu's

> > nakshatra

> > > it wont be able to deliver results...in my view.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study

of

> > some

> > > of the

> > > > classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain

an

> > > attitude of a

> > > > " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses

only

> > > those with

> > > > " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related

to

> > > complexes and

> > > > egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and

> > not " show "

> > > it to

> > > > seem true to others.

> > >

> > > I have God's grace in this regard that I can dig things to

find

> > out

> > > what i need to know.

> > >

> > > Sir those who feel as egoist are not egoist but they have

proud of

> > > doing good karma but yes Ego should be avoided. As many

> > astrologers

> > > in other forum make it personal issue if someone points on

there

> > > predicitive skills. and creates abusive mails for the person

who

> > is

> > > pointing him.

> > >

> > >

> > > > In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is

> > > important to pick

> > > > and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get

into

> > > groups but

> > > > remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and

others

> > > are wrong "

> > > > is the first step in being more ignorant than one already

is.

> > From

> > > people

> > > > who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who

do

> > other

> > > adharmic

> > > > activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient,

> > knowledgeable

> > > and kind

> > > > members, you learn what to do.

> > >

> > > Sir whoever has mind he wont follow blindly, but he will try

to

> > > explore all the techniques becuse he need to help others.

> > > He wil learn Parashari, KP, Jaimini everything because every

> > system

> > > has many secrets.

> > > and true astrologer want to help native.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord.

Not

> > you

> > > and I.

> > > > Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should

not

> > > proclaim by

> > > > doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord decide

> > that.

> > > The more

> > > > you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on your

own

> > > attitude

> > > > and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get

into

> > the

> > > cycle of

> > > > fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be

on

> > > yourself when

> > > > it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word,

nowadays, it

> > > seems in

> > > > the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind

and

> > > gentle members

> > > > who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

> > >

> > > Yes true, we are who to talk of sins, its the innerself (

zamir )

> > of

> > > person to tell him that he is incuring sins by providing wrong

> > > predictons.

> > >

> > > My main aim on these forum is to learn future prediction of

> > native,

> > > Past can be told by anyone, but who can tell the EXACT future

and

> > can

> > > tell mind of person.

> > >

> > > My method is little different in terms of predictive part for

a

> > > person. I try to analyse that what is in person's mind and

what

> > > condition are suitable to him. So i first try to observe lagna

and

> > > moon's conjuction. and then see the query part.

> > >

> > > Yes i am not expert yet in predictive part so i stay silent as

my

> > > innerself donot allow me to play.

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked

> > correctly

> > >

> > > Yes sir your mail was very informative and thoughtful &

Written in

> > > freshmood.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Warm Regrds,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sir,

 

Well said.

I agree with You.

 

I am personally of the view that modern bred

astrologers like me, who are not brought up in

the traditional atmosphere of niyama, should

also follow a certain self set regime,

regardless of the bad habits which come with

city living,which keep on reducing gradually with

the Grace of God and this divine subject.

 

This regime may be set to the following-

 

1) Number of japas per day-minimum to be adhered.

2) Stotras -daily to be recited.

3) Regular Meditation.

4) Some Breathing- pranayam

5) Utterance of Truth as far as possible

6) Not hurting without cause.

7) No extra speaking or energy is wasted.

8) Sex Life should be bare minimum.

Vital fluid to be stored to create Ojas.

9) Pure Heart which pains at others pain

and no space given to base feelings like

jealousy or false pride, but Credit to The Lord.

10)Pooja-Path at least once in the morning.

11)Conscious mansik japa throughout the day,

till it becomes unconscious flow in the system.

 

A good jyotish of today who is having foremost

desire in his mind to help any native coming for

help,and who is also into some sort of spiritual

regime,is definitely doing a part of the work which

the saint does,and a small extension of the same.

This Jyotish Guru may also be having 2nd house

in a good position as to give him Vaksiddhi.

In such cases, when he talks extra and gives a

good prediction to a undeserved native, out

of pity for that native or compassion, or love,

then this prediction turns into a blessing.

 

Therefore one has to be selective in verbal

utterances, and to the subject (Native) whom one

is addressing.

 

Kind regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, " R.C.Srivastava " <swami_rcs

wrote:

>

>

>

> *Om mahaganapataye namah*

> Dear Bhaskarji,

> I am responding to part of your mail.

> By Senior gurus i meant Jyotish teachers, because of costant

> repetetion they become clear on jyotish concepts.

> Now such Teachers become well known for they have digested the

> techniques and are comfortable with demonstration of application on

> selected charts.It is a skill gained.This is one side of a coin.

> Traditional belief and practice is Each astrologer including

> teachers under reference are required to do daily Japa etc

> and there are various rules associated with Readings of a chart,when

> to read and when to postpone, So most of them avoid predicting since

> they may not be doing regular worship or may not be fine with their

> sattivk conduct.

> Question of blessing from their earned spiritual merit arises only

> for saints.Jyotish Gurus are far away from that state.

> Hope i am clear in expression.

> With kind regards.

> Re: Is Dasha -- final judgement to give predictions ??

> Posted by: " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish bhaskar_jyotish

> Wed Aug 8, 2007 10:16 am (PST)

> Dear Srivastavji,

>

> //Senior Gurus the famus one who teaches

> > astrology and allied mantra mani and aushdhi and responds

> > diligintaly to questions of learners on groups,but never predicts

> > about future. Never never, for they know they may fail and damage

> > hard earned status.//

>

> Sir, if they fear of failure then they cannot be called

> Guru in the first place.they are not supposed to exist.

>

> By status if you mean spiritual status earned by regular

> japa and tapa, if people think by predicting they are wasting

> the good results received from this japa and tapa, then they

> are the most foolish in the spiritual lot.

>

> I dont mind personally if my spiritual Japa and tapa

> is wasted if I give a prediction to a poor man to become

> wealthy, though its not written in his horoscope, but becomes

> so because of my prediction and proclamation supported by my

> japa and tapa.

>

> When one sits on the seat of a astrologer which is basically

> meant to help a native in need and troubled times,

> one is not supposed to care whether his japa and tapa is

> wasted. My intention should only be one. that, is how

> to bring relief to the native coming to me for help.

>

> Only That one motive, nothing else. Help.

>

> " Na Main Na parmatma, parantu

> sirf woh ,

> joh aaya mere paas kuch madad ke

> liye. "

>

> Apna fayda sirf dekha toh kya dekha ?

> Uska fayda karke dekho ,

> tumhara,apne aap,parmatma karva dega.

>

> Tum besahara ho toh kisika sahara bano.

> tumko apne aap hi sahara mil jayega.

>

> Kashti koi doobti lagado kinaare pe,

> tumko apne aap hi kinaara mil jayega.

>

> Jisme dum nahin future predict karne ka , woh kya

> Guru hua ya phir kya astrologer hua ?

>

> Chhodon bekaar ki batoon ko,

> kahin beet na jaaye raina.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> Dear Friends,For remedies and readings please visit

> http://www.kaalvastu.com as we have closed http://www.cosmograce.com

> ----------------------

> R.C.Srivastava

> Consultation-Service

> E-mail : swami_rcs

> http://www.kaalvastu.com

> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com

> Ph 91-562- 2232323 and 4001223

> Mob 9412268768

>

> --

> Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy

> radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy

> our sins, and guide us in the right direction

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Srivastavji,

> >

> > //Senior Gurus the famus one who teaches

> > > astrology and allied mantra mani and aushdhi and responds

> > > diligintaly to questions of learners on groups,but never

> predicts

> > > about future. Never never, for they know they may fail and

> damage

> > > hard earned status.//

> >

> > Sir, if they fear of failure then they cannot be called

> > Guru in the first place.they are not supposed to exist.

> >

> > By status if you mean spiritual status earned by regular

> > japa and tapa, if people think by predicting they are wasting

> > the good results received from this japa and tapa, then they

> > are the most foolish in the spiritual lot.

> >

> > I dont mind personally if my spiritual Japa and tapa

> > is wasted if I give a prediction to a poor man to become

> > wealthy, though its not written in his horoscope, but becomes

> > so because of my prediction and proclamation supported by my

> > japa and tapa.

> >

> > When one sits on the seat of a astrologer which is basically

> > meant to help a native in need and troubled times,

> > one is not supposed to care whether his japa and tapa is

> > wasted. My intention should only be one. that, is how

> > to bring relief to the native coming to me for help.

> >

> > Only That one motive, nothing else. Help.

> >

> > " Na Main Na parmatma, parantu

> > sirf woh ,

> > joh aaya mere paas kuch madad ke

> > liye. "

> >

> > Apna fayda sirf dekha toh kya dekha ?

> > Uska fayda karke dekho ,

> > tumhara,apne aap,parmatma karva dega.

> >

> > Tum besahara ho toh kisika sahara bano.

> > tumko apne aap hi sahara mil jayega.

> >

> > Kashti koi doobti lagado kinaare pe,

> > tumko apne aap hi kinaara mil jayega.

> >

> >

> > Jisme dum nahin future predict karne ka , woh kya

> > Guru hua ya phir kya astrologer hua ?

> >

> > Chhodon bekaar ki batoon ko,

> > kahin beet na jaaye raina.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami_rcs@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > *Om mahaganapataye namah*

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > > Good posting.

> > > You have asked to share the way one go for predictions,on

> internet.

> > > By now beautiful mail from Bharat has apperaed.

> > > We must first understand in what state astrology is on internet

> > > before a meaning ful answer is possible.

> > > One can agree to following classification.

> > > 1. Mass astrology used to woo clients and sell all kinds of mani

> > > mantra yantra etc using terms like ,kaalsarpa,sadesati,mangal

> dosa

> > > and the like terminology.

> > > 2.Instant astrology combining all they are conversant with like

> > > numerology,transits,name akshar,moon position and lalkitaab or

> > > common sayings,like broadcast on TV.

> > > 3.Serious astrolgers practising inolved in finding correct

> > > astrological chart for native in question, studying past and

> future

> > > from prasna chart and then casting natal chart and working out

> > > problems and stumbling blocks from past karma of native.They are

> > > usually regular in spiritual practices and predict using all

> > > knowldge they have gained by experience.

> > > 4.Senior Gurus the famus one who teaches

> > > astrology and allied mantra mani and aushdhi and responds

> > > diligintaly to questions of learners on groups,but never

> predicts

> > > about future. Never never, for they know they may fail and

> damage

> > > hard earned status.

> > > Now you can understand what answers you are likely to get of

> your

> > > question in this scenerio.

> > > The bottom line is on internet astrology is not for

> consultations

> > > but is for shatrath, to prove supermacy and knowledge.

> > > I appreciate your comments in last part of mails.

> > > Experts may forgive me,Dear reader if you are a expert,I am not

> > > addressing you.

> > >

> > > OM TAT SAT

> > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bharat ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your mail.

> > > >

> > > > Sir since you are into astrology from long time , you are

> atleast

> > > > senior to me :-)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > yes thats the exact thing that people just play with many

> natives

> > > by

> > > > providing them baseless predictions., and as native mostly

> donot

> > > give

> > > > feedback, they feel like a good astrolger in themselves.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yes i have seen his KN Rao ji's and other members mails in

> > > archives

> > > > which are full of information.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Since you have asked an astrological question. I shall also

> > > reply

> > > > to it:

> > > > >

> > > > > The chart which has inherent strength usually has lesser

> > > problems

> > > > in any

> > > > > given dasha. The chart which has inherent weaknesses will

> > > fluctuate

> > > > with

> > > > > more problems in most dashas. The important point is how is

> the

> > > > chart of a

> > > > > given native. If it has the blessings of the graha or it is

> > > badly

> > > > afflicted.

> > > > > Dasha and Transits come next. Ashtakavarga too.

> > > >

> > > > Yes ashtakavarga is one of the required knowledge too, as KAS

> > > method

> > > > is purely on astakvarga.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dasha defines the likely period of a series of event. The

> > > results

> > > > of all

> > > > > houses and grahas come in a single dasha, however prominent

> are

> > > > those grahas

> > > > > whose period is going on. The results depend upon the

> relative

> > > > placement of

> > > > > the dasha lord and antar to the said houses. Each house can

> be

> > > > taken as

> > > > > " lagna of its signification " to check the result. The

> placement

> > > in

> > > > trik

> > > > > houses and trik lords is checked. Placement of benefics both

> > > from

> > > > the lagna

> > > > > and the house under consideration is checked (Many check

> this

> > > > placement from

> > > > > Moon too). The avastha of dasha-anter lord is checked. Their

> > > mutual

> > > > > placement to each other is checked.

> > > >

> > > > I do prefer the same method for judgement according to dasha.

> But

> > > > some horoscopes which contain conjuctions of more planets

> becomes

> > > > specific in judgement from this method.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Transits are checked with respect to triggering of events.

> Dasha

> > > > periods are

> > > > > often for 2-3 years. How do you pin point an event? It is

> then

> > > the

> > > > transits

> > > > > are to be checked. Transit results are dependent upon the

> dasha

> > > > periods,

> > > > > but, they act as triggers for an event.

> > > >

> > > > I try to justify the past events with the degree of planetry

> > > > influence during transit and then analyse those degrees. Cant

> > > explain

> > > > but i use it too.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Besides the above, I use the principles of Yoga and Tithi.

> These

> > > > principles

> > > > > help in determining Yogi and Avayogi. Besides this, usage of

> > > > Nakshatra

> > > > > placement and its change of result is an important feature.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yes nakshatra gives information that planet would be effective

> or

> > > > not. in its dasha or mahadasha, like if Guru is in Rahu's

> > > nakshatra

> > > > it wont be able to deliver results...in my view.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > If you are keen on some serious study, then, take up study

> of

> > > some

> > > > of the

> > > > > classical works with authentic commentaries. Plus maintain

> an

> > > > attitude of a

> > > > > " seeker " and not that of a " knower " . Ma Saraswati blesses

> only

> > > > those with

> > > > > " thirst for knowledge " without attitudinal problems related

> to

> > > > complexes and

> > > > > egoistical tendencies. One has to be true to oneself and

> > > not " show "

> > > > it to

> > > > > seem true to others.

> > > >

> > > > I have God's grace in this regard that I can dig things to

> find

> > > out

> > > > what i need to know.

> > > >

> > > > Sir those who feel as egoist are not egoist but they have

> proud of

> > > > doing good karma but yes Ego should be avoided. As many

> > > astrologers

> > > > in other forum make it personal issue if someone points on

> there

> > > > predicitive skills. and creates abusive mails for the person

> who

> > > is

> > > > pointing him.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > In the groups you can learn from almost anyone - but it is

> > > > important to pick

> > > > > and choose and not become a blind follower. Try not to get

> into

> > > > groups but

> > > > > remain friendly with all. The notion that " I am right and

> others

> > > > are wrong "

> > > > > is the first step in being more ignorant than one already

> is.

> > > From

> > > > people

> > > > > who deceive through 10 email ids or who hurl abuses or who

> do

> > > other

> > > > adharmic

> > > > > activities, you learn what NOT to do. From patient,

> > > knowledgeable

> > > > and kind

> > > > > members, you learn what to do.

> > > >

> > > > Sir whoever has mind he wont follow blindly, but he will try

> to

> > > > explore all the techniques becuse he need to help others.

> > > > He wil learn Parashari, KP, Jaimini everything because every

> > > system

> > > > has many secrets.

> > > > and true astrologer want to help native.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Do not talk of Sins, etc. The karmaphaladata is the Lord.

> Not

> > > you

> > > > and I.

> > > > > Every action is under the scrutiny of the Lord. You should

> not

> > > > proclaim by

> > > > > doing such and such- one will incur sin. Let the lord decide

> > > that.

> > > > The more

> > > > > you scrutinize others, the more you shall lose focus on your

> own

> > > > attitude

> > > > > and ignorance. The more you do so, the more you will get

> into

> > > the

> > > > cycle of

> > > > > fighting others and being extra reactive. Let the light be

> on

> > > > yourself when

> > > > > it comes to scrutiny. Introspection is a lost word,

> nowadays, it

> > > > seems in

> > > > > the group. Have you noticed the silence of many very kind

> and

> > > > gentle members

> > > > > who kept this group alive with excellent discussions?

> > > >

> > > > Yes true, we are who to talk of sins, its the innerself (

> zamir )

> > > of

> > > > person to tell him that he is incuring sins by providing wrong

> > > > predictons.

> > > >

> > > > My main aim on these forum is to learn future prediction of

> > > native,

> > > > Past can be told by anyone, but who can tell the EXACT future

> and

> > > can

> > > > tell mind of person.

> > > >

> > > > My method is little different in terms of predictive part for

> a

> > > > person. I try to analyse that what is in person's mind and

> what

> > > > condition are suitable to him. So i first try to observe lagna

> and

> > > > moon's conjuction. and then see the query part.

> > > >

> > > > Yes i am not expert yet in predictive part so i stay silent as

> my

> > > > innerself donot allow me to play.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hope this reply helps you and answers the questions asked

> > > correctly

> > > >

> > > > Yes sir your mail was very informative and thoughtful &

> Written in

> > > > freshmood.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Warm Regrds,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar,

 

If I misread your mails, I am sorry. Or perhaps your mail did not

clarify what you were questioning or supporting.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

Bhaskar wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrasekharji,

>

> // If you think predictions could only be made through K.P.

> > as a different astrological system, that is fine with me.//

>

> This means that You too are misunderstanding. I never

> think in such manner. You are mis reading my mails, it

> seems.

>

> //As I understand the navamsha arc in K.P. is done in proportion of

> > Vimshottari dashas of grahas, so, personally I do not think that it

> is a > different system only a variation that draws from Satyacharya

> > principles. //

>

> Right.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar,

> >

> > I answered the question that Tarun asked. I was talking about

> > traditional Jyotish approach. Or if you are making some other point

> then

> > I missed it. If you think predictions could only be made through K.P.

> > as a different astrological system, that is fine with me.

> >

> > As I understand the navamsha arc in K.P. is done in proportion of

> > Vimshottari dashas of grahas, so, personally I do not think that it

> is a

> > different system only a variation that draws from Satyacharya

> > principles. But I could, of course, be wrong.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Bhaskar wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrasekharji,

> > >

> > > These are the basics without one cannot see

> > > the other aspects of the chart. When one studies

> > > the dasha,then these automatically come in picture

> > > and have to be studied mandatorily,and without

> > > saying .

> > > When one checks the Maha Dasha Lord, as to what

> > > it signifies,

> > > he would naturally turn to the Rashi Chart and

> > > the Navamsha Chart, and people like myself who

> > > are into KP, would go into more smaller divisions.

> > >

> > > When one analyses the Mahadasha and the antardashas

> > > all these aspects which you mentioned, have to be

> > > automatically studied,otherwise how could one talk

> > > what the Mahadasha can offer or what the narrowed

> > > period of antardasha offer ?

> > >

> > > All these points are understood to , having been

> > > studied before one can predict the current dasha

> > > what problems it carries due to which the native

> > > has come to the astrologer.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Do you mean there is difference between Jyotish and Internet

> astrology?

> > > >

> > > > For Jyotish predictions I would look at natal chart, navamsha

> strength

> > > > of grahas, dasha levels and Transits and then analyze a bhava about

> > > > which a question is asked.

> > > >

> > > > I do not know anything about fake id.s etc. and so can not comment.

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > >

> > > > Tarun wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello Senior Astrologers,

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet

> astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa)

> > > > > 2. To use Transits too.

> > > > > 3. Speak by God's grace only.

> > > > > 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback

> response by

> > > > > Native is provided)

> > > > >

> > > > > As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan

> mails.(one

> > > > > can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response

> > > they can

> > > > > give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming God's image

> > > > >

> > > > > But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part, it is for

> > > sure

> > > > > he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even in this

> > > > > birth.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > -------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release Date:

> > > 8/3/2007 5:46 PM

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Chandrasekharji,

 

I support all systems of approach in astrology,

including traditional,KP,Jamini, Nadi,Ashtakvarga

and also Sayana (Western). For me they are parts

of the whole, so not Juda (Differentiated).

For me even all Gurus are respected, and keep no

bias towards any. Just like,we have both grandfather

Paternal -Maternal,Uncles Paternal- Maternal ,

cousins, thus they are part of same family

and to be respected .

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

-- In , Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar,

>

> If I misread your mails, I am sorry. Or perhaps your mail did not

> clarify what you were questioning or supporting.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Bhaskar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrasekharji,

> >

> > // If you think predictions could only be made through K.P.

> > > as a different astrological system, that is fine with me.//

> >

> > This means that You too are misunderstanding. I never

> > think in such manner. You are mis reading my mails, it

> > seems.

> >

> > //As I understand the navamsha arc in K.P. is done in proportion of

> > > Vimshottari dashas of grahas, so, personally I do not think that it

> > is a > different system only a variation that draws from Satyacharya

> > > principles. //

> >

> > Right.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > >

> > > I answered the question that Tarun asked. I was talking about

> > > traditional Jyotish approach. Or if you are making some other point

> > then

> > > I missed it. If you think predictions could only be made through

K.P.

> > > as a different astrological system, that is fine with me.

> > >

> > > As I understand the navamsha arc in K.P. is done in proportion of

> > > Vimshottari dashas of grahas, so, personally I do not think that it

> > is a

> > > different system only a variation that draws from Satyacharya

> > > principles. But I could, of course, be wrong.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrasekharji,

> > > >

> > > > These are the basics without one cannot see

> > > > the other aspects of the chart. When one studies

> > > > the dasha,then these automatically come in picture

> > > > and have to be studied mandatorily,and without

> > > > saying .

> > > > When one checks the Maha Dasha Lord, as to what

> > > > it signifies,

> > > > he would naturally turn to the Rashi Chart and

> > > > the Navamsha Chart, and people like myself who

> > > > are into KP, would go into more smaller divisions.

> > > >

> > > > When one analyses the Mahadasha and the antardashas

> > > > all these aspects which you mentioned, have to be

> > > > automatically studied,otherwise how could one talk

> > > > what the Mahadasha can offer or what the narrowed

> > > > period of antardasha offer ?

> > > >

> > > > All these points are understood to , having been

> > > > studied before one can predict the current dasha

> > > > what problems it carries due to which the native

> > > > has come to the astrologer.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you mean there is difference between Jyotish and Internet

> > astrology?

> > > > >

> > > > > For Jyotish predictions I would look at natal chart, navamsha

> > strength

> > > > > of grahas, dasha levels and Transits and then analyze a

bhava about

> > > > > which a question is asked.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do not know anything about fake id.s etc. and so can not

comment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello Senior Astrologers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you share the way you go for predictions. on internet

> > astrology.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. To use Dasha only.(whatever Ayanamsa)

> > > > > > 2. To use Transits too.

> > > > > > 3. Speak by God's grace only.

> > > > > > 4. You just speak randomly i.e.Tukka ( as no Real feedback

> > response by

> > > > > > Native is provided)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As i have seen many astrologers uses fake ids to create Fan

> > mails.(one

> > > > > > can check IP address), They Try to provide as much as response

> > > > they can

> > > > > > give on forums so that to show Visiblity.and becoming

God's image

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But if the Astrologer is not using true predictive part,

it is for

> > > > sure

> > > > > > he is making SIN which he has to pay in next Birth or even

in this

> > > > > > birth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would like to have your opinion on predictive part please.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tarun

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release

Date:

> > > > 8/3/2007 5:46 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >