Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Prashantji, You may have your say if you wish and stop this thread, it is getting murkier now.I would like to stop this before it gets worse. Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Prashantji, > > If anyone talks dirty about system of Kp it becomes > unbearable for me to sit in that assembly and keep > quiet. You have been doing this quite frequently on > many Forums and on many occasions. > > I also notice that you have been maintaining the > same line in your messages across all the Forums, > that KP himself was good, but his system is bad. > I have so many times explained you, but my efforts > have gone wasted. Of course it is your prerogative to write > what you wish, in a democratic country, but criticizing any > system, does not behove good for any astrologer. > > One should not comment on any system, unless he studies > the same or masters it, and finds the faults.When you > criticize his system, you criticize the > hundreds and thousands of followers of KP, who > are giving 100% better predictions than what normally > astrologers do. How do they do this if their system is bad? > > I am a small follower of KP, but even I have never criticized > any system or approach, because all are good in hands of a able > astrologer. > Why should one collect bad karma by doing all this, just because > one himself practises another approach ? > > If one loves Rama, and does not allow Shankar in his house, > or vice versa, or criticise the other Form of the Lord, > then he would gain grace from none, those who > have read the Ramayana, know this well. Same goes for astrology. > We have to perfect ourselves rather than criticise others approach, > which in this case is not even without evidence, as You see in all the > KP Forums, how wonderfully people predict those who follow the KP > approach. > > I myself, predict share picking to at least 10 Big Bulls in the > Share Market on a weekly basis,whenever they ask me about any > script they wish to buy. I have proved this well, I have given the > methodology, which no one has ever done in the history of astrology > till today, and have Files with real people and their dealings which > go into crores of Rupees, based on my prediction. Then how can KP > system be bad ? Even the masters of KP are now propagating the method > which I presented, which I learnt from my own Guru. > > Please note that any astrologer can be good only if he keeps broad > mind and outlook. There should be no space for any undesirable > feelings or thoughts against others. > > We should try to increase our own lustre, rather than throwing > dirt on others. > > You have always been saying that BV raman is the best and the rest > are not good and have not contributed to the cause of astrology. > Just to remind you, Shri BV Raman is not just your Guru, but everyones > Guru, including my first Jyotish Guru. But I have not been taught by > him to chide or pass bad remarks about others system,neither I am made > like this . > > You talked about show off and challenges. If one has a Mercedes ,he > will certainly show it and not keep in the garage.. > I have the confidence in the knowledge I possess,derived from my > Gurus, and on that basis of the same, I have, in the face of insult to > the KP System by persons like you, I have the guts to challenge ,to > come and show your prowess on the field of prediction.Small persons > like me also can take the challenges made to your type of astrologers > who talk bad about other systems, and only consider one Gurus name as > the only one.You talk bad about the system ,You talk bad about Bhaskar > on other Forums, you say I talked cheap about you, yet I have never > done this behind your back, even in my own Forum, I have never done > this. This Bhaskar is the real student and shishya of BV Raman KP and > KN Rao, who loves all Gurus, has no biased outlook, is ready to face > challenges when Gurus and systems are insulted, and does not talk > behind peoples back, and who never criticises any approach or systems. > I dont mind if I am a show off, when the need is created to be so. > because I keep truth and Dharma near me. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " astro desk " > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar > > > > more than that the imp objective of astrology is to help not show > off---- no > > comments on this? > > > > and the ego can destroy our prowess to read so we can fail miserably in > > public if we go for challenges now and win temporarily later is costly > > > > i have seen in all my acknowledgements to people posting on a successful > > predictionI always gave credit to ur masters and if we folow their path > > rightly we can do justice to them, we r ordinalry mortals and god is > alone > > worthy of credit to bless us and the querent. > > > > > > this is a divine subject is not like pure science where 1+1=2 no method > > gives us that result isn't it > > > > I also keep saying > > > > a good prediction comes when a perfect equilateral triangle is met > > > > 1 the a querent with a serious/genuine issue > > 2.a well versed and balanced astrologer > > 3 the almighty if all 3 angles are perfect we get te answer as it is > HE who > > guides us to open or refer the right message for the querent from all we > > have read so far if their karma is ready for redemption or get an > answer > > > > at times the best will fail in cases where the karma is unfinished > [if he > > period is to run for longer time u may not be able to help. later a > lesser > > qualified one can also help if the karma warrants him to be alerted > for a > > change for the good or bad. > > > > if there is a perfect model, answer sure many programmers would have > written > > dozens of them > > > > the key to divine knowledge is the humane astrologer, his intuition that > > works thru Almighty's grace, u may remember what u HAD to tell but > did not > > tell someone , but get the clue when they r out of reach why > > > > their time has to tome > > > > Bhagavan ke ghar par dhere hai andher nahin is when it occurs at the > right > > time till then they see only andheri > > > > > > TODAY IS B V RAMAN'S b'day the great saint, crusader for vedic > jyotishya and > > Hindu values I bow in respect to the great master, without his effort in > > taking it to west and thus coming to us back from them has brought > in many > > new generations of astrologers many thrive even bashing him as it is > easy to > > get into the limelight attacking such big names. > > > > if astrology is alive and kicking it is his great work. > > > > best wishes > > > > On 8/8/07, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Prashantji, > > > > > > I am aware of this mail. I got a copy of this mail, > > > just today, sent by one of my cronies. > > > I also replied to you, but did not > > > post that message, because the PC hanged that time, > > > fortunately, for you, you would miss out, > > > the rough part of my mail, I took that hanging of > > > the PC,as a omen not to send you the reply. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40>, > > > " astro desk " > > > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > bHASKAR > > > > > > > > i HAVE SAID IN MY REPLY TO SOME THERE AND OTHER PLACES OFTEN > > > > > > > > PASTING ONE SUCH POST HERE > > > > > > > > Dear Mohanrammji > > > > > > > > > > it is true astrology is not about accuracy but it is more than > that > > > > something that can help soothe a ruffled mind, soul find a direction > > > > in gloom as the saying goes misfortune doesnt come single but many > > > > follow BEHIND, why is is because people get dumb struck or bogged > > > down by an > > > > event and may slip attention - others MISERIES that pile up just > like a > > > > wild > > > > fire if checked correctly limits its damage but one reacts late all > > > > will be lost. > > > > > > > > > > at times we can even givem the a sugar coated reading as our > job is > > > > to *counsel not excel in predicting* we can bring some hope and from > > > > hope direction to future issues can be dealt better even if a > > > > current crisis we [appear not to indicate though we may know it and > > > > also know The client can't take it] without assessing a clients > > > > mental strength readings must not be given a face to face sitting > > > > makes a lot of difference always. > > > > WE CAN ALWAYS SPACE HARD PREDICTIONS IN A FEW SESSIONS AND OR TELL > > > SOMEONE > > > > STRONG IN THE FAMILY TO BE PREPARED AND DO THE NEEDFUL, we serve no > > > purposue > > > > i saying we have a good record of predicting than touching someones > > > life in > > > > a crisis. > > > > > > > > so challanges r not part of the vedic scope. > > > > > > > > > on KP i had a similar line and had a few mean people target me in > > > > cheap style in a different group by Bhaskar and his cronies > Tarun etc. > > > > > > > > > > where I defend krshnamurthy as a great seer not his concepts as no > > > > one has come anywhere near him so he was a gifted man not his system > > > > where as vedic model if followed correctly there are centuries of > > > > successful astrologers, it is the capacity to handle such great > works > > > > effectively with dharmic, satvic life where intution opens the right > > > > ends in delivering them, systems are just the means right > approach is > > > > more important where almighty has his touch we r just a > > > > instrument of god not god. as his interpreter we have to give them > > > hope and > > > > direction till then end as doctors do in written off cases too who > > > knows if > > > > his purvapunya has some small window of hope of recovery. > > > > > > > > as geetha says do ur best leave rest to god. > > > > > > > > > > in KP u have a good approach that is u use only the model he has > > > st and u > > > > have rightly said others have inserted sub, sub-subs, sub-subs-subs > > > etc... > > > > > > > > then the answer is there itself r they not justifying KP's model has > > > some > > > > short commings, > > > > when it actually the user who has of he can't deliver by original KP > > > model > > > > > > > > so too is vedic model if we go by the same yard stick one has to use > > > them > > > > properly > > > > and in TN there were just 2 astrological classics written > intamil form > > > > sanskrit unlike Hindi, telugu, kanada, marati, gujarati versions of > > > several > > > > classics which can deal a lot more, KP has not seen aMORE THAN 2 > > > like most > > > > tamils > > > > > > > > now u hae Pulipani translate several works into English, tamil so > > > they too > > > > have them > > > > > > > > they had Jataka Alantara most quoted work here > > > > > > > > vedic astrology several works give diff clues pertaining to a line > > > is coded > > > > for protection from misues those who choose to use it well can > > > always open > > > > the secret doors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > On 8/7/07, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashantji, > > > > > > > > > > I am aware of the mudslinging going on in VA between > > > > > the members you mentioned, and I am also aware that > > > > > mudslinging is done on KP system, but unfortunately, > > > > > not on that list to argue or defend. But You may > > > > > pass my challenge on those who criticise KP Horary > > > > > system, that I am ready to face any challenge, > > > > > let them take Five Horary Queries,on seperate > > > > > days, and lets see who comes closer to the answer. > > > > > I will answer through KP Horary. > > > > > That is the best way to prove ones point > > > > > instead of mudslinging. > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><%40>, > > > > > " astro desk " > > > > > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not seen any such post in JR here i have seen it here so > > > > > will try to > > > > > > make sure it doesn't happen, but it is not intentional, u > can see > > > > > many more > > > > > > typos in mine why just this, alone > > > > > > > > > > > > btw In JR i had also said I DON'T READ UR POSTS max in ref > with some > > > > > other > > > > > > posts here do randomly read in JV i read all of them I try to > > > avoid any > > > > > > controversial mails, in JV I am sure there will be none > > > > > > JR AND THIS GROUP HAS MAX of them, of late in VA 1st time last 3 > > > > > days a war > > > > > > between Lalit Misra and Mohanram, and R dakshinamurthy is so > sad to > > > > > see such > > > > > > mud slinging As RD is far above anyone of us in content in the > > > > > current group > > > > > > membership in many groups we r in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but spelling names yes one must be careful > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/7/07, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashantji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed that out of 10 times you address me, you > > > > > > > write my name 9 times as " Baskar " instead of " Bhaskar " . > > > > > > > I had reminded you of this lapse- deliberate or > > > > > > > accidental, many months back in Jyotish remedies too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But You are continuing the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure You would not address Surya Narayan > > > > > > > as " Om Baskaraya namah " instead of " Om Bhaskaraya namah' > > > > > > > Then why this discrimination, when we are all small > > > > > > > extensions of the same Parmatma ? Hurting any > > > > > > > atma needlessly without cause, means ultimately > > > > > > > hurting the Parmatma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is sensitive about his name,and I too am living > > > > > > > in this world, so feel at times, 99% I neglect, but 1% I have > > > > > > > the chance to remind you, so I did the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar > > > > > > -------- > > > > > > For Consultation charges please write to me > > > > > > -------- > > > > > > G B Prashant Kumar > > > > > > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > > > > > > Nandanam Extn, > > > > > > Chennai 600035, INDIA > > > > > > MOBILE 9840051861 > > > > > > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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