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sairaman

 

 

vah vah vah ....

 

wounderful msg from you

 

wounderful sweet heart language

 

 

i am so happy to see that keep it up

 

 

in every science there is lot of controversy from one man to another including

well proved medical science why not astrology all slokas yogas as said by

rishis if works verbatum no body to research we can take as it is as one plyus

two equals 3 for all people but it is not so in practice the yogas slokas works

in different fashion for known vips it works completelythan the common man

even a man below poverty man can also have gajakesari yoga (so many

interpratation and support for not working can be given) nobody discusses common

man hor. or hor. of vips as well as common man born with same TOB and place etc.

many does not work at all astrologers mostly are sailent not to give much

explanation on that

 

so instead of arguing with languages in mails let us have fruitful combinations

real confirmed birthdata with confirmed incidents from our experiences and enjoy

a nice membership morwe interest to see mails and keepour subject interesting

 

 

thank y sir with my regards to you

 

 

sairaman 7thaug20079 17 pm

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Dear Pradeepji,

 

Thank you for understanding me now.

My personal view- I do not accept anything

as right or anything wrong. because it is

difficult to assess with my limited brains

the great meanings hidden in the shlokas and

encompassed within, which probably only

the shishyas of those times could fathom, or

spiritually very highly elevated modern men of

today could understand. Since I do not

fall in either category, for me I keep no

bias for anyone and his search-research or

conclusion.

For me,You could be as right as the others,

for want of Great Rishi like Personages like

Parashar, in our presence today, to explain

us the actual truth.

If You notice in all my exchanges, I have

never mentioned that I am right and

You are wrong in our respective approach

to the vargas and assessment thereof.

because honestly speaking no one knows the

real truth actually.

There are many principles contrary to common

knowledge of acceptance, which also work,

but if I try to display those, I would

become a laughing stock for want of

authenticity. Therefore I keep those to

myself, as long as they work for me, its fine.

I do not doubt your researches, and also

believe that ultimately you may prove yourself

right in maybe few decades from now, or few years

too,but till that time, you have to keep your

facts known to you, behind the curtain , for

the reasons mentioned earlier.

 

I wish you good progress in your search for the

truth,and believe me I harbor no ill will, have

never harbnored so, but always wish well for all

people like you, and hope that you meet success

soon.

 

Best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji

>

> Many thanks for your love.

> As we have mentioned before,regarding Varga Chakras there is no

> point in writing lengthy mails.Offer answer for the technical points

> which are objectively verifable,once the paper is presented.I have

> mentioned 100 times that you may agree or disagree.It is only for

> the members who are curious.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear members,

> >

> > It is only out of compassion and love ,

> > for these good members who were participating

> > in this thread, that I wished to close the thread.

> > I have been requesting continously since the start ,

> > and constantly to please close the thread, since

> > it is getting us nowhere, it would only aim to

> > lower the respect of Shri Pradeepji and the likes,

> > which i did not wish, as we certainly respect him for

> > his Sanskrit knowledge and his generous past,I did

> > not wish him to be at the other end of the Gun, if I

> > can say bluntly,was the reason why I wished to close

> > this thread,so that none would loose face, but

> > my continous requests have fallen on deaf ears.

> > We are all good men, and do not wish other good men

> > like Shri Pradeepji to act unreasonably and then become

> > targetted,was the main reason of my persistent efforts

> > and requests to close the thread.

> > But it seems apparently, still these facts seem to be miles

> > away from these respected members, and they would

> > only like to live in fruitless debates and discussions.

> > So be it.

> >

> > But I still feel pity and compassion, and for

> > the final time I request that stop this thread.

> > I would never like basically good men like Pradeepji,

> > Chandrasekharji, and so many others like them, to

> > ever come in an uncomfortable position.

> > If all our family members remain happy, then so do we.

> > If one of them is uncomfortable then we too

> > loose our peace. Is it not ?

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeepji and cronies,

> > >

> > > Prove -

> > >

> > > 1) There is nothing like Divisional Charts.

> > > 2) Only Rashi Chart exists.

> > > 3) there is no Navamsha Chart.

> > > 4) There is thus no aspects in Navamsha Chart.

> > > 5) Readings can only be given through Rashi

> > > and its amsas but not Navamsha Chart.

> > > 6) Varga charts are not to be made

> > > 7) Vargas are to be seen from Rashi only.

> > > 8) Shri BV Raman in all his books he has

> > > given Navamsha Chart- He is wrong

> > > 9) Shri KN Rao has given in all his books

> > > Navamsha Chart - He is wrong.

> > > 10)Late Santhanam did not know Sanskrit.

> > > 11)Santhanamji has given in all his books

> > > Navamsha Chart. He is wrong.

> > > 12)All softwares making Navamsha Charts are wrong.

> > > 13)LR Chawdhari showing use of Navamsha Charts is wrong.

> > > 14)All South Indians predicting through Navamsha charts

> > > are wrong.

> > > 15)Chandulal Patel has written wrong books on use of

> > > Navamsha Charts.

> > > 16) All diagrammatical representations in these books are

> > > wrong.

> > > 17) Only you know Sanskrit is right.

> > > 18) One cannot predict from Divisional Charts.

> > > 19) All aspects being used by BV Raman,KN Rao,Santhanam,

> > > LR Chawdhari etc. and susbtabtiating their explanations

> > > of natives readings are wrong.

> > >

> > > Prove above or dont talk.

> > > We are not eager to close the Thread.

> > > I only wish to avoid Jyotish Bloodbath,that

> > > is why I was requesting you to

> > > close the thread, and not because of any other reason,

> > > but you dont seem to understand. You always

> > > misunderstand.

> > > So continue the thread. I am ready to argue,

> > > debate and discuss.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sairamanji,

 

Good to see you writing.

Your mails are always a pleasure to read.

 

I agree with You, we must share our own

experiences, from first person, which is the

most authentic form of astrology.

 

regards,

bhaskar.

 

 

, sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:

>

> sairaman

>

>

> vah vah vah ....

>

> wounderful msg from you

>

> wounderful sweet heart language

>

>

> i am so happy to see that keep it up

>

>

> in every science there is lot of controversy from one man to another

including well proved medical science why not astrology all slokas

yogas as said by rishis if works verbatum no body to research we can

take as it is as one plyus two equals 3 for all people but it is not

so in practice the yogas slokas works in different fashion for known

vips it works completelythan the common man

> even a man below poverty man can also have gajakesari yoga (so many

interpratation and support for not working can be given) nobody

discusses common man hor. or hor. of vips as well as common man born

with same TOB and place etc. many does not work at all astrologers

mostly are sailent not to give much explanation on that

>

> so instead of arguing with languages in mails let us have fruitful

combinations real confirmed birthdata with confirmed incidents from

our experiences and enjoy a nice membership morwe interest to see

mails and keepour subject interesting

>

>

> thank y sir with my regards to you

>

>

> sairaman 7thaug20079 17 pm

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Dear Pradeepji,

>

> Thank you for understanding me now.

> My personal view- I do not accept anything

> as right or anything wrong. because it is

> difficult to assess with my limited brains

> the great meanings hidden in the shlokas and

> encompassed within, which probably only

> the shishyas of those times could fathom, or

> spiritually very highly elevated modern men of

> today could understand. Since I do not

> fall in either category, for me I keep no

> bias for anyone and his search-research or

> conclusion.

> For me,You could be as right as the others,

> for want of Great Rishi like Personages like

> Parashar, in our presence today, to explain

> us the actual truth.

> If You notice in all my exchanges, I have

> never mentioned that I am right and

> You are wrong in our respective approach

> to the vargas and assessment thereof.

> because honestly speaking no one knows the

> real truth actually.

> There are many principles contrary to common

> knowledge of acceptance, which also work,

> but if I try to display those, I would

> become a laughing stock for want of

> authenticity. Therefore I keep those to

> myself, as long as they work for me, its fine.

> I do not doubt your researches, and also

> believe that ultimately you may prove yourself

> right in maybe few decades from now, or few years

> too,but till that time, you have to keep your

> facts known to you, behind the curtain , for

> the reasons mentioned earlier.

>

> I wish you good progress in your search for the

> truth,and believe me I harbor no ill will, have

> never harbnored so, but always wish well for all

> people like you, and hope that you meet success

> soon.

>

> Best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji

> >

> > Many thanks for your love.

> > As we have mentioned before,regarding Varga Chakras there is no

> > point in writing lengthy mails.Offer answer for the technical points

> > which are objectively verifable,once the paper is presented.I have

> > mentioned 100 times that you may agree or disagree.It is only for

> > the members who are curious.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members,

> > >

> > > It is only out of compassion and love ,

> > > for these good members who were participating

> > > in this thread, that I wished to close the thread.

> > > I have been requesting continously since the start ,

> > > and constantly to please close the thread, since

> > > it is getting us nowhere, it would only aim to

> > > lower the respect of Shri Pradeepji and the likes,

> > > which i did not wish, as we certainly respect him for

> > > his Sanskrit knowledge and his generous past,I did

> > > not wish him to be at the other end of the Gun, if I

> > > can say bluntly,was the reason why I wished to close

> > > this thread,so that none would loose face, but

> > > my continous requests have fallen on deaf ears.

> > > We are all good men, and do not wish other good men

> > > like Shri Pradeepji to act unreasonably and then become

> > > targetted,was the main reason of my persistent efforts

> > > and requests to close the thread.

> > > But it seems apparently, still these facts seem to be miles

> > > away from these respected members, and they would

> > > only like to live in fruitless debates and discussions.

> > > So be it.

> > >

> > > But I still feel pity and compassion, and for

> > > the final time I request that stop this thread.

> > > I would never like basically good men like Pradeepji,

> > > Chandrasekharji, and so many others like them, to

> > > ever come in an uncomfortable position.

> > > If all our family members remain happy, then so do we.

> > > If one of them is uncomfortable then we too

> > > loose our peace. Is it not ?

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pradeepji and cronies,

> > > >

> > > > Prove -

> > > >

> > > > 1) There is nothing like Divisional Charts.

> > > > 2) Only Rashi Chart exists.

> > > > 3) there is no Navamsha Chart.

> > > > 4) There is thus no aspects in Navamsha Chart.

> > > > 5) Readings can only be given through Rashi

> > > > and its amsas but not Navamsha Chart.

> > > > 6) Varga charts are not to be made

> > > > 7) Vargas are to be seen from Rashi only.

> > > > 8) Shri BV Raman in all his books he has

> > > > given Navamsha Chart- He is wrong

> > > > 9) Shri KN Rao has given in all his books

> > > > Navamsha Chart - He is wrong.

> > > > 10)Late Santhanam did not know Sanskrit.

> > > > 11)Santhanamji has given in all his books

> > > > Navamsha Chart. He is wrong.

> > > > 12)All softwares making Navamsha Charts are wrong.

> > > > 13)LR Chawdhari showing use of Navamsha Charts is wrong.

> > > > 14)All South Indians predicting through Navamsha charts

> > > > are wrong.

> > > > 15)Chandulal Patel has written wrong books on use of

> > > > Navamsha Charts.

> > > > 16) All diagrammatical representations in these books are

> > > > wrong.

> > > > 17) Only you know Sanskrit is right.

> > > > 18) One cannot predict from Divisional Charts.

> > > > 19) All aspects being used by BV Raman,KN Rao,Santhanam,

> > > > LR Chawdhari etc. and susbtabtiating their explanations

> > > > of natives readings are wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Prove above or dont talk.

> > > > We are not eager to close the Thread.

> > > > I only wish to avoid Jyotish Bloodbath,that

> > > > is why I was requesting you to

> > > > close the thread, and not because of any other reason,

> > > > but you dont seem to understand. You always

> > > > misunderstand.

> > > > So continue the thread. I am ready to argue,

> > > > debate and discuss.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > >

> >

 

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>

[Guest guest]

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Sairamanji,

>

> Good to see you writing.

> Your mails are always a pleasure to read.

>

> I agree with You, we must share our own

> experiences, from first person, which is the

> most authentic form of astrology.

 

 

Sharing one's experiences makes for " the most authentic form " of

astrology??

 

PJ

[Guest guest]

Of course.

If You not been able to perform on the wedding

night, then say so,we can check out the

astrological influences in your chart

and discuss the factors responsible for this.

Or if you have not been able to father a child,

or if you have been accused of any felony.

Just give the dates. And what happened or not

happened.

 

So just share your experiences,

and No sarcasm, Irony,Sardonic or Expert comments,

like the one you just made,unless You share.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " pranesh_joshi2003 "

<pranesh_joshi2003 wrote:

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sairamanji,

> >

> > Good to see you writing.

> > Your mails are always a pleasure to read.

> >

> > I agree with You, we must share our own

> > experiences, from first person, which is the

> > most authentic form of astrology.

>

>

> Sharing one's experiences makes for " the most authentic form " of

> astrology??

>

> PJ

>

[Guest guest]

sairaman

 

OH OH I am sorry i should away from this

 

*Like the one y made*

 

i am sorry Sir if I have written anyting not liked or taken by y in good spirit

 

i am a learner and beginner and hobby i am not well experienced to give

authentic rules and quotes and slokas and predictions

 

 

i always trying to learn from msgs of others i have very little to share may or

may not be with astrological explanations which only convinces me may be others

 

 

thank y sir with regards

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Of

course.

If You not been able to perform on the wedding

night, then say so,we can check out the

astrological influences in your chart

and discuss the factors responsible for this.

Or if you have not been able to father a child,

or if you have been accused of any felony.

Just give the dates. And what happened or not

happened.

 

So just share your experiences,

and No sarcasm, Irony,Sardonic or Expert comments,

like the one you just made,unless You share.

 

Bhaskar.

 

, " pranesh_joshi2003 "

<pranesh_joshi2003 wrote:

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sairamanji,

> >

> > Good to see you writing.

> > Your mails are always a pleasure to read.

> >

> > I agree with You, we must share our own

> > experiences, from first person, which is the

> > most authentic form of astrology.

>

>

> Sharing one's experiences makes for " the most authentic form " of

> astrology??

>

> PJ

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Thanks fpr yr response

 

i cannot quote slokas and rules which i have seen works on postmartem and not

explained why it is not working on many people

 

each man experiences of own is real pleasure to see our own family and friends

 

for more than 600 million people if saturn is to work from 0 to 100years from

the marketed rasi balams to accept and follow and doing pariharas for sani

bhagawan without paying regular wages to workers and treating badly the workers

and not taking care of old parents sick and needy in society how can we

expectgood things happen by doing rich poojas entering temple with vip pass,

with influence pushing away all innocents public in temples (rs.200/- thayath,

100 kavacham 50/- cocunut and 10/- veputhi etc) only a big industry is thriving

well on thecost of astrology and god (may god creation to earn that way)

 

the above most controversies are my most of experience linked with astrology for

all activities in human life many may or may not accept

 

as somebody said instead of writing here we can better as nice book and get

 

many books in market i have seen with large example charts of their own

experience and very interesting to read

 

 

thank y sir with my regards

 

pranesh_joshi2003 <pranesh_joshi2003 wrote:

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Sairamanji,

>

> Good to see you writing.

> Your mails are always a pleasure to read.

>

> I agree with You, we must share our own

> experiences, from first person, which is the

> most authentic form of astrology.

 

Sharing one's experiences makes for " the most authentic form " of

astrology??

 

PJ

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Of course.

> If You not been able to perform on the wedding

> night, then say so,we can check out the

> astrological influences in your chart

> and discuss the factors responsible for this.

> Or if you have not been able to father a child,

> or if you have been accused of any felony.

> Just give the dates. And what happened or not

> happened.

 

 

vah vah vah ....

 

wounderful msg from you

 

wounderful sweet heart language

 

i am so happy to see that keep it up

 

thank y sir for such fun yu give

 

PJ

[Guest guest]

Dear Sairamanji,

 

The mail below which I replied was not to you,

but to Pranesh Joshi, for his sarcasm on few

lines on my reply to you.

 

bkind regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:

>

> sairaman

>

> OH OH I am sorry i should away from this

>

> *Like the one y made*

>

> i am sorry Sir if I have written anyting not liked or taken by y in

good spirit

>

> i am a learner and beginner and hobby i am not well experienced to

give authentic rules and quotes and slokas and predictions

>

>

> i always trying to learn from msgs of others i have very little to

share may or may not be with astrological explanations which only

convinces me may be others

>

>

> thank y sir with regards

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Of course.

> If You not been able to perform on the wedding

> night, then say so,we can check out the

> astrological influences in your chart

> and discuss the factors responsible for this.

> Or if you have not been able to father a child,

> or if you have been accused of any felony.

> Just give the dates. And what happened or not

> happened.

>

> So just share your experiences,

> and No sarcasm, Irony,Sardonic or Expert comments,

> like the one you just made,unless You share.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " pranesh_joshi2003 "

> <pranesh_joshi2003@> wrote:

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sairamanji,

> > >

> > > Good to see you writing.

> > > Your mails are always a pleasure to read.

> > >

> > > I agree with You, we must share our own

> > > experiences, from first person, which is the

> > > most authentic form of astrology.

> >

> >

> > Sharing one's experiences makes for " the most authentic form " of

> > astrology??

> >

> > PJ

> >

 

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