Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay Dutt is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as 1956.Thus as astrologers we can verify the possibility. On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from authentic sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories posted as support. I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these threads.This is also against those who tries to misguide others and give false info. Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever being said is right.Possibilities are there. Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert his child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married her. Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can ignore,or say it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when to keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. Regds Pradeep , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Freinds, > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > of us ? No certainly not. > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > and ill will ? > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > turn is what I sense. > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Pradeep, Baskar I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a girl singer [in a reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a women too and later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help us as all is cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, children /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of them have had terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some good people a minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an answer than this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for it about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them whatever it be he was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref to them having a son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look at any normal pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be reverse and some good people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short shelf life and make the best when sun shines. on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted possible references in old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small in comparison I merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make living society took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , wise works we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly free in groups. and on and off get rebuked. best wishes On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay Dutt > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as 1956.Thus > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from authentic > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories posted > as support. > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these threads.This is > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false info. > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever being > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert his > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married her. > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can ignore,or say > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when to > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > Regds > Pradeep > > <%40>, > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish > wrote: > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > and ill will ? > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > turn is what I sense. > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > -- Thank you, Prashantkumar -------- For Consultation charges please write to me -------- G B Prashant Kumar `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street Nandanam Extn, Chennai 600035, INDIA MOBILE 9840051861 TEL 42110983/24340186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Pradeepji, I do not think anyone has shown eagerness in trying to close, other than myself. Only because I do not wish to be a participant of more sob stories, and for the good of the Forum. But if you wish to continue,then I am all game. You know my style. I never retreat for fear ,because there is nothing to fear, if one is not wrong, I only retreat or wish to close, for the general good, and no member is unnecessarily slandered thats why. I can be a good challenge in any of the ares you choose to challenge me on. The Birth may be 1956,1957,1959,1960 anything.We cannot say for sure, but only based on hearsay. At least I have 3 people who told me so, I have the Samna paper, I have the Wikipedia Website to say this. What proof have you, to say that 1956 was the birth? And okay if it is proved that 1956 was the actual Birth of Sanjay dutt, then what woould it give to anyone? A crown ? Why are we discussing these silly things for small pleasures? " Late Dutt saved the lady by marrying her ? " You are again implying that Dutt impregnated her before marriage, and when she borne a child, or after gave birth to a child, married her and saved her reputation ? " This maybe true, but which website says this ? One cany just imagine and talk such things . Bhaskar. , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay Dutt > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as 1956.Thus > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from authentic > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories posted > as support. > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these threads.This is > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false info. > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever being > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert his > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married her. > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can ignore,or say > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when to > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > Regds > Pradeep > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > and ill will ? > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > turn is what I sense. > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Pradeep ji, Just asking...why you feel everyone is eager to stop debate. What one will get, yes ofcourse sunil dutt can try to stop this debate as if sanjay dutt was borned before there marriage. and sir as also u added in ur mail that " " Next movie Mother india was released in October 1957 - Mehboob coming back and Raj Kapoor relationship ends in 1956 - with Nargis able to do only a GUEST appearance. Sunil Dutt saved her from fire by risking his life in 1957. " " do u say that sanjay dutt was borned before they had start in relationship. " " and waise bhi sir, sunil dutt is not here, so in my view no one would like to stop the thread, please continue. Warm Regards, Tarun , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay Dutt > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as 1956.Thus > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from authentic > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories posted > as support. > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these threads.This is > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false info. > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever being > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert his > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married her. > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can ignore,or say > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when to > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > Regds > Pradeep > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > and ill will ? > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > turn is what I sense. > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Prashantji, I agree that celebrities can have live in relationships before marriage, can have child before marriage, nothing great or impossible or unbelievable about this. regards, Bhaskar. , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar wrote: > > Pradeep, Baskar > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a girl singer [in a > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a women too and > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help us as all is > cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, children > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of them have had > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some good people a > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an answer than > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for it > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them whatever it be he > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref to them having a > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look at any normal > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be reverse and some good > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short shelf life and > make the best when sun shines. > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted possible references in > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small in comparison I > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make living society > took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , wise works > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly free in groups. > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > best wishes > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay Dutt > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as 1956.Thus > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from authentic > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories posted > > as support. > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these threads.This is > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false info. > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever being > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert his > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married her. > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can ignore,or say > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when to > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > <%40>, > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thank you, > > Prashantkumar > -------- > For Consultation charges please write to me > -------- > G B Prashant Kumar > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > Nandanam Extn, > Chennai 600035, INDIA > MOBILE 9840051861 > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Prashant ji, Why you are still running for Britney's topic.... Regards, Tarun , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar wrote: > > Pradeep, Baskar > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a girl singer [in a > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a women too and > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help us as all is > cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, children > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of them have had > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some good people a > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an answer than > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for it > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them whatever it be he > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref to them having a > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look at any normal > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be reverse and some good > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short shelf life and > make the best when sun shines. > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted possible references in > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small in comparison I > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make living society > took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , wise works > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly free in groups. > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > best wishes > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay Dutt > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as 1956.Thus > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from authentic > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories posted > > as support. > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these threads.This is > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false info. > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever being > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert his > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married her. > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can ignore,or say > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when to > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > <% 40>, > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thank you, > > Prashantkumar > -------- > For Consultation charges please write to me > -------- > G B Prashant Kumar > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > Nandanam Extn, > Chennai 600035, INDIA > MOBILE 9840051861 > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Tarunji, " Vinaashkaal vipareeta budhi " I warned them and requested them to close the thread. But bevakoofon ki kami nahi is duniya mein, ek dhundne jao, hajaar milenge. They think that my good advise of requesting them to close these 2 threads is out of fear or non availibility of ammunitions on my part. What a great misunderstanding. They cannot sense a good well wisher even if they face one.I feel pity on them. I change my mode from a well wisher or Guru, to a Fighter. I am ready now, for them, in a warriors mode to face them. regards, Bhaskar. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > Just asking...why you feel everyone is eager to stop debate. > > What one will get, yes ofcourse sunil dutt can try to stop this > debate as if sanjay dutt was borned before there marriage. > > and sir as also u added in ur mail that > " " > Next movie Mother india was released in October 1957 - Mehboob > coming back and Raj Kapoor relationship ends in 1956 - with Nargis > able to do only a GUEST appearance. > Sunil Dutt saved her from fire by risking his life in 1957. " " > do u say that sanjay dutt was borned before they had start in > relationship. " " > > and waise bhi sir, sunil dutt is not here, so in my view no one would > like to stop the thread, please continue. > > Warm Regards, > > Tarun > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay Dutt > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as 1956.Thus > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > authentic > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories > posted > > as support. > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these threads.This > is > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false info. > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever > being > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert his > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married her. > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can ignore,or > say > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when to > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Prashant ji Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others can reject.Thus there is no debate here. On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious manipulations and fabrications,done by some to promote their vested interests.I am not against anyone making benefits out of astrological consultations ,if they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology a commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage is a strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities cannot be ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas using false horoscopes. Regds Pradeep hGroup , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar wrote: > > Pradeep, Baskar > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a girl singer [in a > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a women too and > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help us as all is > cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, children > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of them have had > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some good people a > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an answer than > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for it > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them whatever it be he > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref to them having a > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look at any normal > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be reverse and some good > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short shelf life and > make the best when sun shines. > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted possible references in > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small in comparison I > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make living society > took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , wise works > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly free in groups. > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > best wishes > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay Dutt > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as 1956.Thus > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from authentic > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories posted > > as support. > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these threads.This is > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false info. > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever being > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert his > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married her. > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can ignore,or say > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when to > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > <% 40>, > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thank you, > > Prashantkumar > -------- > For Consultation charges please write to me > -------- > G B Prashant Kumar > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > Nandanam Extn, > Chennai 600035, INDIA > MOBILE 9840051861 > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji, Sir ek story hei. once a debate started between a American and Indian. The american said sex is important while indian said Food is important. so they decided to experment. they took one RAT and kept it hungry for 8 days. Then after 8 days one mice(chuhiya) was kept on one side and one Wheat Grain was kept on one side. The Rat took wheat grain and it was proved that Food is important. But american refused the experiment and again that Rat was kept hungry for 8 days. now he was kept in front of one Maize Grain on one side and Mice on another side. The Rat took Maize grain and didnt saw to Mice. now again was proved that Food is important. but american kaha haar maane wala tha...he said , u changed Grain twice, but try to change the mice once. Moral of the story...jo samajh sakta hei wo samajh sakta hei..but Jo ziddi hei...he cannot understand. Regards, Tarun Ps. Request to all Please donot connect this to anyone. This is just a story , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > " Vinaashkaal vipareeta budhi " > > I warned them and requested them to close the thread. > But bevakoofon ki kami nahi is duniya mein, ek dhundne > jao, hajaar milenge. They think that > my good advise of requesting them to close > these 2 threads is out of fear or non availibility of > ammunitions on my part. What a great misunderstanding. > They cannot sense a good well wisher even if they face > one.I feel pity on them. > > I change my mode from a well wisher or Guru, > to a Fighter. > I am ready now, for them, in a warriors mode to > face them. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > Just asking...why you feel everyone is eager to stop debate. > > > > What one will get, yes ofcourse sunil dutt can try to stop this > > debate as if sanjay dutt was borned before there marriage. > > > > and sir as also u added in ur mail that > > " " > > Next movie Mother india was released in October 1957 - Mehboob > > coming back and Raj Kapoor relationship ends in 1956 - with Nargis > > able to do only a GUEST appearance. > > Sunil Dutt saved her from fire by risking his life in 1957. " " > > do u say that sanjay dutt was borned before they had start in > > relationship. " " > > > > and waise bhi sir, sunil dutt is not here, so in my view no one would > > like to stop the thread, please continue. > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay Dutt > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as 1956.Thus > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > > authentic > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories > > posted > > > as support. > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these threads.This > > is > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false info. > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever > > being > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert his > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married her. > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can ignore,or > > say > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when to > > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Pradeepji, Do not comment without any knowledge of what You are talking about .Tarunji posted some birth details about a women and asked a Forum of 7000 members whether this chart holds promise for the native to be a singer ?Any good astrologer could have answered that question. But nobody could. Finally Tarunji disclosed the details were of Britney Spears. You are saying that just because someone remembers that Sanjay Dutt would have born before his parents married, another member of this Forum is using Bandhana Yogas using false Horoscopes ? How are these 2 matters connected? Pl explain. Bhaskar. , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Prashant ji > > Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the > paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others can > reject.Thus there is no debate here. > > On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious manipulations and > fabrications,done by some to promote their vested interests.I am not > against anyone making benefits out of astrological consultations ,if > they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology a > commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. > > Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage is a > strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities cannot be > ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas using > false horoscopes. > > Regds > Pradeep > > > hGroup , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > > > Pradeep, Baskar > > > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a girl > singer [in a > > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a women > too and > > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help us as > all is > > cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, children > > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of them > have had > > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some good > people a > > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an > answer than > > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for it > > > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them > whatever it be he > > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref to > them having a > > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look at any > normal > > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be reverse and > some good > > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short shelf > life and > > make the best when sun shines. > > > > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted possible > references in > > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small in > comparison I > > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make > living society > > took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , wise > works > > > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly free > in groups. > > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay > Dutt > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as > 1956.Thus > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > authentic > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories > posted > > > as support. > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > threads.This is > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false > info. > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever > being > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert his > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married > her. > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can ignore,or > say > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when > to > > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thank you, > > > > Prashantkumar > > -------- > > For Consultation charges please write to me > > -------- > > G B Prashant Kumar > > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > > Nandanam Extn, > > Chennai 600035, INDIA > > MOBILE 9840051861 > > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji, I just have one question again for pradeep ji that, can he prove his Jail, even in 92-93 whenever, and now....in 2007 by his provided birth data ?? but yes he has to prove it now,no wait for white papers can be done for this case. Regrds, Tarun , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Pradeepji, > > Do not comment without any knowledge of what You are > talking about .Tarunji posted some birth details about > a women and asked a Forum of 7000 members > whether this chart holds promise for the native to be > a singer ?Any good astrologer could have answered that > question. But nobody could. > Finally Tarunji disclosed the details were of Britney > Spears. > > You are saying that just because someone remembers that > Sanjay Dutt would have born before his parents married, > another member of this Forum is using Bandhana Yogas > using false Horoscopes ? > > How are these 2 matters connected? > Pl explain. > > Bhaskar. , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant ji > > > > Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the > > paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others can > > reject.Thus there is no debate here. > > > > On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious manipulations and > > fabrications,done by some to promote their vested interests.I am not > > against anyone making benefits out of astrological consultations ,if > > they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology a > > commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. > > > > Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage is a > > strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities cannot be > > ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas using > > false horoscopes. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > hGroup , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Pradeep, Baskar > > > > > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a girl > > singer [in a > > > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a women > > too and > > > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help us as > > all is > > > cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, children > > > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of them > > have had > > > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some good > > people a > > > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > > > > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an > > answer than > > > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for it > > > > > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them > > whatever it be he > > > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref to > > them having a > > > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look at any > > normal > > > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be reverse and > > some good > > > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short shelf > > life and > > > make the best when sun shines. > > > > > > > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted possible > > references in > > > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small in > > comparison I > > > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make > > living society > > > took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , wise > > works > > > > > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly free > > in groups. > > > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay > > Dutt > > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as > > 1956.Thus > > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > > authentic > > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories > > posted > > > > as support. > > > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > > threads.This is > > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false > > info. > > > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever > > being > > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert his > > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married > > her. > > > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can ignore,or > > say > > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when > > to > > > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > <% > > 40>, > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Prashantkumar > > > -------- > > > For Consultation charges please write to me > > > -------- > > > G B Prashant Kumar > > > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > > > Nandanam Extn, > > > Chennai 600035, INDIA > > > MOBILE 9840051861 > > > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Tarunji, Bhrama, Bhrashta buddhi, phobias, complexes of loosing ones imaginary elevated position, misplaced little intelligence, schizophrenia, and psychic psychotic disorders with wrong placement of Uranus, will not allow the person to think right. he would always misunderstand. regards, Bhaskar. Ps. Request to all Please do not connect this to anyone. This is just a observation. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Sir ek story hei. > > once a debate started between a American and Indian. > > The american said sex is important while indian said Food is > important. > > so they decided to experment. > > they took one RAT and kept it hungry for 8 days. Then after 8 days > one mice(chuhiya) was kept on one side and one Wheat Grain was kept > on one side. > > The Rat took wheat grain and it was proved that Food is important. > > But american refused the experiment and again that Rat was kept > hungry for 8 days. > > now he was kept in front of one Maize Grain on one side and Mice on > another side. > > The Rat took Maize grain and didnt saw to Mice. > > now again was proved that Food is important. > > but american kaha haar maane wala tha...he said , u changed Grain > twice, but try to change the mice once. > > > Moral of the story...jo samajh sakta hei wo samajh sakta hei..but Jo > ziddi hei...he cannot understand. > > Regards, > > Tarun > > Ps. Request to all Please donot connect this to anyone. This is just > a story > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > " Vinaashkaal vipareeta budhi " > > > > I warned them and requested them to close the thread. > > But bevakoofon ki kami nahi is duniya mein, ek dhundne > > jao, hajaar milenge. They think that > > my good advise of requesting them to close > > these 2 threads is out of fear or non availibility of > > ammunitions on my part. What a great misunderstanding. > > They cannot sense a good well wisher even if they face > > one.I feel pity on them. > > > > I change my mode from a well wisher or Guru, > > to a Fighter. > > I am ready now, for them, in a warriors mode to > > face them. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > Just asking...why you feel everyone is eager to stop debate. > > > > > > What one will get, yes ofcourse sunil dutt can try to stop this > > > debate as if sanjay dutt was borned before there marriage. > > > > > > and sir as also u added in ur mail that > > > " " > > > Next movie Mother india was released in October 1957 - Mehboob > > > coming back and Raj Kapoor relationship ends in 1956 - with Nargis > > > able to do only a GUEST appearance. > > > Sunil Dutt saved her from fire by risking his life in 1957. " " > > > do u say that sanjay dutt was borned before they had start in > > > relationship. " " > > > > > > and waise bhi sir, sunil dutt is not here, so in my view no one > would > > > like to stop the thread, please continue. > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay > Dutt > > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as > 1956.Thus > > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > > > authentic > > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories > > > posted > > > > as support. > > > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > threads.This > > > is > > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false > info. > > > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever > > > being > > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert > his > > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married > her. > > > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can > ignore,or > > > say > > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when > to > > > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Tarunji, I am sorry, he and his BUDDIES can prove nothing. That is why they talk about everything else,but astrology. I am totally disillusioned by them. I understood this long ago, thats why I gave him a face saving escape, by asking him to read my Vimsamsa chart, and did not ask when I would get job ? or good money ? or get sick etc ? They only pick up statements from our own mails and talk on these . No originality. Only copy paste. regards, Bhaskar. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > I just have one question again for pradeep ji that, can he prove his > Jail, even in 92-93 whenever, and now....in 2007 > > by his provided birth data ?? > but yes he has to prove it now,no wait for white papers can be done > for this case. > > Regrds, > > Tarun > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeepji, > > > > Do not comment without any knowledge of what You are > > talking about .Tarunji posted some birth details about > > a women and asked a Forum of 7000 members > > whether this chart holds promise for the native to be > > a singer ?Any good astrologer could have answered that > > question. But nobody could. > > Finally Tarunji disclosed the details were of Britney > > Spears. > > > > You are saying that just because someone remembers that > > Sanjay Dutt would have born before his parents married, > > another member of this Forum is using Bandhana Yogas > > using false Horoscopes ? > > > > How are these 2 matters connected? > > Pl explain. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant ji > > > > > > Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the > > > paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others can > > > reject.Thus there is no debate here. > > > > > > On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious manipulations > and > > > fabrications,done by some to promote their vested interests.I am > not > > > against anyone making benefits out of astrological > consultations ,if > > > they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology a > > > commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. > > > > > > Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage is a > > > strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities cannot > be > > > ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas > using > > > false horoscopes. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > hGroup , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Pradeep, Baskar > > > > > > > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a girl > > > singer [in a > > > > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a > women > > > too and > > > > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help us > as > > > all is > > > > cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, > children > > > > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of > them > > > have had > > > > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some > good > > > people a > > > > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > > > > > > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an > > > answer than > > > > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for it > > > > > > > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them > > > whatever it be he > > > > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref to > > > them having a > > > > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look at > any > > > normal > > > > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be reverse > and > > > some good > > > > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short > shelf > > > life and > > > > make the best when sun shines. > > > > > > > > > > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted possible > > > references in > > > > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small in > > > comparison I > > > > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make > > > living society > > > > took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , > wise > > > works > > > > > > > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly > free > > > in groups. > > > > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, > Sanjay > > > Dutt > > > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as > > > 1956.Thus > > > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > > > authentic > > > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories > > > posted > > > > > as support. > > > > > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > > > threads.This is > > > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give > false > > > info. > > > > > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or > whatever > > > being > > > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert > his > > > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and > married > > > her. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can > ignore,or > > > say > > > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be > posted,when > > > to > > > > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > <% > > > 40>, > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of > course > > > > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we > have > > > > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar > > > > -------- > > > > For Consultation charges please write to me > > > > -------- > > > > G B Prashant Kumar > > > > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > > > > Nandanam Extn, > > > > Chennai 600035, INDIA > > > > MOBILE 9840051861 > > > > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji, When sometimes it make me to think that. internet astrology is not useful. Better to go to some Old astrologers. sir itne mails post ho chuke hei..it would be great if we had given time in writing a book. ab tak to 1000 page ki book ho jati aram se. with 100s of charts as examples. Regards, Tarun , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > Bhrama, Bhrashta buddhi, phobias, complexes of > loosing ones imaginary elevated position, > misplaced little intelligence, schizophrenia, > and psychic psychotic disorders with > wrong placement of Uranus, will not allow > the person to think right. he would always > misunderstand. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > Ps. Request to all Please do not connect this to anyone. This is just > a observation. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Sir ek story hei. > > > > once a debate started between a American and Indian. > > > > The american said sex is important while indian said Food is > > important. > > > > so they decided to experment. > > > > they took one RAT and kept it hungry for 8 days. Then after 8 days > > one mice(chuhiya) was kept on one side and one Wheat Grain was kept > > on one side. > > > > The Rat took wheat grain and it was proved that Food is important. > > > > But american refused the experiment and again that Rat was kept > > hungry for 8 days. > > > > now he was kept in front of one Maize Grain on one side and Mice on > > another side. > > > > The Rat took Maize grain and didnt saw to Mice. > > > > now again was proved that Food is important. > > > > but american kaha haar maane wala tha...he said , u changed Grain > > twice, but try to change the mice once. > > > > > > Moral of the story...jo samajh sakta hei wo samajh sakta hei..but Jo > > ziddi hei...he cannot understand. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > Ps. Request to all Please donot connect this to anyone. This is just > > a story > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > > > " Vinaashkaal vipareeta budhi " > > > > > > I warned them and requested them to close the thread. > > > But bevakoofon ki kami nahi is duniya mein, ek dhundne > > > jao, hajaar milenge. They think that > > > my good advise of requesting them to close > > > these 2 threads is out of fear or non availibility of > > > ammunitions on my part. What a great misunderstanding. > > > They cannot sense a good well wisher even if they face > > > one.I feel pity on them. > > > > > > I change my mode from a well wisher or Guru, > > > to a Fighter. > > > I am ready now, for them, in a warriors mode to > > > face them. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > Just asking...why you feel everyone is eager to stop debate. > > > > > > > > What one will get, yes ofcourse sunil dutt can try to stop this > > > > debate as if sanjay dutt was borned before there marriage. > > > > > > > > and sir as also u added in ur mail that > > > > " " > > > > Next movie Mother india was released in October 1957 - Mehboob > > > > coming back and Raj Kapoor relationship ends in 1956 - with Nargis > > > > able to do only a GUEST appearance. > > > > Sunil Dutt saved her from fire by risking his life in 1957. " " > > > > do u say that sanjay dutt was borned before they had start in > > > > relationship. " " > > > > > > > > and waise bhi sir, sunil dutt is not here, so in my view no one > > would > > > > like to stop the thread, please continue. > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay > > Dutt > > > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as > > 1956.Thus > > > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > > > > authentic > > > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories > > > > posted > > > > > as support. > > > > > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > > threads.This > > > > is > > > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false > > info. > > > > > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever > > > > being > > > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert > > his > > > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married > > her. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can > > ignore,or > > > > say > > > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when > > to > > > > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > > > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > > > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Hey bhaskar, Again you are fighting? WHY? Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Tarunji, I am sorry, he and his BUDDIES can prove nothing. That is why they talk about everything else,but astrology. I am totally disillusioned by them. I understood this long ago, thats why I gave him a face saving escape, by asking him to read my Vimsamsa chart, and did not ask when I would get job ? or good money ? or get sick etc ? They only pick up statements from our own mails and talk on these . No originality. Only copy paste. regards, Bhaskar. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > I just have one question again for pradeep ji that, can he prove his > Jail, even in 92-93 whenever, and now....in 2007 > > by his provided birth data ?? > but yes he has to prove it now,no wait for white papers can be done > for this case. > > Regrds, > > Tarun > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeepji, > > > > Do not comment without any knowledge of what You are > > talking about .Tarunji posted some birth details about > > a women and asked a Forum of 7000 members > > whether this chart holds promise for the native to be > > a singer ?Any good astrologer could have answered that > > question. But nobody could. > > Finally Tarunji disclosed the details were of Britney > > Spears. > > > > You are saying that just because someone remembers that > > Sanjay Dutt would have born before his parents married, > > another member of this Forum is using Bandhana Yogas > > using false Horoscopes ? > > > > How are these 2 matters connected? > > Pl explain. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant ji > > > > > > Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the > > > paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others can > > > reject.Thus there is no debate here. > > > > > > On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious manipulations > and > > > fabrications,done by some to promote their vested interests.I am > not > > > against anyone making benefits out of astrological > consultations ,if > > > they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology a > > > commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. > > > > > > Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage is a > > > strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities cannot > be > > > ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas > using > > > false horoscopes. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > hGroup , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Pradeep, Baskar > > > > > > > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a girl > > > singer [in a > > > > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a > women > > > too and > > > > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help us > as > > > all is > > > > cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, > children > > > > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of > them > > > have had > > > > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some > good > > > people a > > > > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > > > > > > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an > > > answer than > > > > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for it > > > > > > > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them > > > whatever it be he > > > > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref to > > > them having a > > > > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look at > any > > > normal > > > > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be reverse > and > > > some good > > > > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short > shelf > > > life and > > > > make the best when sun shines. > > > > > > > > > > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted possible > > > references in > > > > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small in > > > comparison I > > > > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make > > > living society > > > > took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , > wise > > > works > > > > > > > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly > free > > > in groups. > > > > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, > Sanjay > > > Dutt > > > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as > > > 1956.Thus > > > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > > > authentic > > > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories > > > posted > > > > > as support. > > > > > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > > > threads.This is > > > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give > false > > > info. > > > > > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or > whatever > > > being > > > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert > his > > > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and > married > > > her. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can > ignore,or > > > say > > > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be > posted,when > > > to > > > > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > <% > > > 40>, > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of > course > > > > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we > have > > > > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar > > > > -------- > > > > For Consultation charges please write to me > > > > -------- > > > > G B Prashant Kumar > > > > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > > > > Nandanam Extn, > > > > Chennai 600035, INDIA > > > > MOBILE 9840051861 > > > > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Dear Pradeep, You said: <<<Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas using false horoscopes.>>> I only pity you for your line of thinking. You can't produce any authentic birth data (even according to you), except following some article based on rumor. And, you call others using false horoscopes. Wonderful! Regards, Krishna --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > Dear Prashant ji > > Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the > paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others can > reject.Thus there is no debate here. > > On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious manipulations > and > fabrications,done by some to promote their vested interests.I > am not > against anyone making benefits out of astrological > consultations ,if > they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology a > commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. > > Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage is a > > strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities > cannot be > ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas > using > false horoscopes. > > Regds > Pradeep > > > hGroup , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar > wrote: > > > > Pradeep, Baskar > > > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a > girl > singer [in a > > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a > women > too and > > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help > us as > all is > > cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, > children > > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of > them > have had > > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some > good > people a > > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an > > answer than > > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for > it > > > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them > whatever it be he > > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref > to > them having a > > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look > at any > normal > > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be > reverse and > some good > > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short > shelf > life and > > make the best when sun shines. > > > > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted > possible > references in > > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small > in > comparison I > > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make > > living society > > took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , > wise > works > > > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly > free > in groups. > > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, > Sanjay > Dutt > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as > 1956.Thus > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > > authentic > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory > stories > posted > > > as support. > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > threads.This is > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give > false > info. > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or > whatever > being > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he > desert his > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and > married > her. > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can > ignore,or > say > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be > posted,when > to > > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of > course > > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship > with > > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we > have > > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical > feelings > > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for > temporary > > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a > ugly > > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thank you, > > > > Prashantkumar > > -------- > > For Consultation charges please write to me > > -------- > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Dear Krishnaji I was not all mentioning about,your case studies.It was against some people who creates stories about authenticity of data. Regds Pradeep , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > You said: > > <<<Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas using > false horoscopes.>>> > > I only pity you for your line of thinking. You can't produce any > authentic birth data (even according to you), except following > some article based on rumor. And, you call others using false > horoscopes. Wonderful! > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > Dear Prashant ji > > > > Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the > > paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others can > > reject.Thus there is no debate here. > > > > On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious manipulations > > and > > fabrications,done by some to promote their vested interests.I > > am not > > against anyone making benefits out of astrological > > consultations ,if > > they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology a > > commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. > > > > Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage is a > > > > strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities > > cannot be > > ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas > > using > > false horoscopes. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > hGroup , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Pradeep, Baskar > > > > > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a > > girl > > singer [in a > > > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a > > women > > too and > > > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help > > us as > > all is > > > cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, > > children > > > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of > > them > > have had > > > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some > > good > > people a > > > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > > > > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an > > > > answer than > > > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for > > it > > > > > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them > > whatever it be he > > > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref > > to > > them having a > > > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look > > at any > > normal > > > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be > > reverse and > > some good > > > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short > > shelf > > life and > > > make the best when sun shines. > > > > > > > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted > > possible > > references in > > > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small > > in > > comparison I > > > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make > > > > living society > > > took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , > > wise > > works > > > > > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly > > free > > in groups. > > > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, > > Sanjay > > Dutt > > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as > > 1956.Thus > > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > > > > authentic > > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory > > stories > > posted > > > > as support. > > > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > > threads.This is > > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give > > false > > info. > > > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or > > whatever > > being > > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he > > desert his > > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and > > married > > her. > > > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can > > ignore,or > > say > > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be > > posted,when > > to > > > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > <% > > 40>, > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of > > course > > > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship > > with > > > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we > > have > > > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical > > feelings > > > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for > > temporary > > > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a > > ugly > > > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Prashantkumar > > > -------- > > > For Consultation charges please write to me > > > -------- > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji It is not about some one.You yourself had said,3 hours of discussion was there between you and your Guruji like Bandhana yoga etc. Regds Pradeep , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Pradeepji, > > Do not comment without any knowledge of what You are > talking about .Tarunji posted some birth details about > a women and asked a Forum of 7000 members > whether this chart holds promise for the native to be > a singer ?Any good astrologer could have answered that > question. But nobody could. > Finally Tarunji disclosed the details were of Britney > Spears. > > You are saying that just because someone remembers that > Sanjay Dutt would have born before his parents married, > another member of this Forum is using Bandhana Yogas > using false Horoscopes ? > > How are these 2 matters connected? > Pl explain. > > Bhaskar. , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant ji > > > > Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the > > paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others can > > reject.Thus there is no debate here. > > > > On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious manipulations and > > fabrications,done by some to promote their vested interests.I am not > > against anyone making benefits out of astrological consultations ,if > > they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology a > > commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. > > > > Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage is a > > strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities cannot be > > ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas using > > false horoscopes. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > hGroup , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Pradeep, Baskar > > > > > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a girl > > singer [in a > > > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a women > > too and > > > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help us as > > all is > > > cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, children > > > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of them > > have had > > > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some good > > people a > > > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > > > > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an > > answer than > > > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for it > > > > > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them > > whatever it be he > > > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref to > > them having a > > > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look at any > > normal > > > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be reverse and > > some good > > > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short shelf > > life and > > > make the best when sun shines. > > > > > > > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted possible > > references in > > > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small in > > comparison I > > > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make > > living society > > > took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , wise > > works > > > > > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly free > > in groups. > > > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, Sanjay > > Dutt > > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as > > 1956.Thus > > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > > authentic > > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories > > posted > > > > as support. > > > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > > threads.This is > > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give false > > info. > > > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or whatever > > being > > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert his > > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and married > > her. > > > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can ignore,or > > say > > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be posted,when > > to > > > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > <% > > 40>, > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of course > > > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we have > > > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Prashantkumar > > > -------- > > > For Consultation charges please write to me > > > -------- > > > G B Prashant Kumar > > > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > > > Nandanam Extn, > > > Chennai 600035, INDIA > > > MOBILE 9840051861 > > > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Dear Pradeep, I assumed that your remarks were targeted at me as I presented my write-up on Bandhana Yoga and also explained it with reference to Sanjay Dutt's chart. If you say that your comment was not directed to me, I will accept it on the face value. Hence, please ignore my previous mail to you. Regards, Krishna --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > Dear Krishnaji > > I was not all mentioning about,your case studies.It was > against some > people who creates stories about authenticity of data. > > Regds > Pradeep > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998 wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > You said: > > > > <<<Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas using > > false horoscopes.>>> > > > > I only pity you for your line of thinking. You can't produce > any > > authentic birth data (even according to you), except > following > > some article based on rumor. And, you call others using > false > > horoscopes. Wonderful! > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > Dear Prashant ji > > > > > > Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the > > > > paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others > can > > > reject.Thus there is no debate here. > > > > > > On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious > manipulations > > > and > > > fabrications,done by some to promote their vested > interests.I > > > am not > > > against anyone making benefits out of astrological > > > consultations ,if > > > they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology > a > > > commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. > > > > > > Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage > is a > > > > > > strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities > > > cannot be > > > ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana > yogas > > > using > > > false horoscopes. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > hGroup , " astro desk " > <astro.prashantkumar@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Pradeep, Baskar > > > > > > > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on > a > > > girl > > > singer [in a > > > > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who > is a > > > women > > > too and > > > > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will > help > > > us as > > > all is > > > > cooked up, fake info and most of them have > relationships, > > > children > > > > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists > most of > > > them > > > have had > > > > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and > some > > > good > > > people a > > > > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > > > > > > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need > of an > > > > > > answer than > > > > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis > for > > > it > > > > > > > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to > them > > > whatever it be he > > > > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a > ref > > > to > > > them having a > > > > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not > look > > > at any > > > normal > > > > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be > > > reverse and > > > some good > > > > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a > short > > > shelf > > > life and > > > > make the best when sun shines. > > > > > > > > > > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted > > > possible > > > references in > > > > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too > small > > > in > > > comparison I > > > > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to > make > > > > > > living society > > > > took care of them better than now. so they poured > sincere , > > > wise > > > works > > > > > > > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work > endlessly > > > free > > > in groups. > > > > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a > website, > > > Sanjay > > > Dutt > > > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned > as > > > 1956.Thus > > > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list > from > > > > > > authentic > > > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory > > > stories > > > posted > > > > > as support. > > > > > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > > > threads.This is > > > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and > give > > > false > > > info. > > > > > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding > non- > > > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or > > > whatever > > > being > > > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he > > > desert his > > > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and > > > married > > > her. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can > > > ignore,or > > > say > > > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. 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Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Again You started this nonsense. If I said so what ? Do You believe every word of mines? Then I have said many other things too,why dont you believe those ? How can you prove that me and my Guruji were not discussing on any authentic data ? First prove that, and then talk nonsense about fale Horoscopes and Bandhan Yogas. I dont know what Bandhan Yogas mean. I never said that we were discussing Bandhan Yogas. I used a English word, " we were discussing on factors in horoscope which cause imprisonment " . Now if you interpret that as Bandhan Yoga, then it may be right . But I was talking of imprisonment. Anyway lets get to the point and no other talk. You seem to be very smart in picking up sentences from others mails and then shooting comments on same. Kindly refrain from this, without preparation at your side. Now prove that Me and My Guruji were discussing on wrong data for 3 hours, or else take all your words back. Can You do this ? No. Then why to speak in such a manner in the first place ? regards, Bhaskar. , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > It is not about some one.You yourself had said,3 hours of discussion > was there between you and your Guruji like Bandhana yoga etc. > > Regds > Pradeep > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeepji, > > > > Do not comment without any knowledge of what You are > > talking about .Tarunji posted some birth details about > > a women and asked a Forum of 7000 members > > whether this chart holds promise for the native to be > > a singer ?Any good astrologer could have answered that > > question. But nobody could. > > Finally Tarunji disclosed the details were of Britney > > Spears. > > > > You are saying that just because someone remembers that > > Sanjay Dutt would have born before his parents married, > > another member of this Forum is using Bandhana Yogas > > using false Horoscopes ? > > > > How are these 2 matters connected? > > Pl explain. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant ji > > > > > > Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the > > > paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others can > > > reject.Thus there is no debate here. > > > > > > On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious manipulations > and > > > fabrications,done by some to promote their vested interests.I am > not > > > against anyone making benefits out of astrological > consultations ,if > > > they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology a > > > commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. > > > > > > Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage is a > > > strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities cannot > be > > > ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas > using > > > false horoscopes. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > hGroup , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Pradeep, Baskar > > > > > > > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a girl > > > singer [in a > > > > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a > women > > > too and > > > > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help us > as > > > all is > > > > cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, > children > > > > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of > them > > > have had > > > > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some > good > > > people a > > > > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > > > > > > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an > > > answer than > > > > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for it > > > > > > > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them > > > whatever it be he > > > > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref to > > > them having a > > > > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look at > any > > > normal > > > > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be reverse > and > > > some good > > > > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short > shelf > > > life and > > > > make the best when sun shines. > > > > > > > > > > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted possible > > > references in > > > > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small in > > > comparison I > > > > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make > > > living society > > > > took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , > wise > > > works > > > > > > > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly > free > > > in groups. > > > > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, > Sanjay > > > Dutt > > > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as > > > 1956.Thus > > > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > > > authentic > > > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories > > > posted > > > > > as support. > > > > > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > > > threads.This is > > > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give > false > > > info. > > > > > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or > whatever > > > being > > > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert > his > > > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and > married > > > her. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can > ignore,or > > > say > > > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be > posted,when > > > to > > > > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > <% > > > 40>, > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of > course > > > > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we > have > > > > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar > > > > -------- > > > > For Consultation charges please write to me > > > > -------- > > > > G B Prashant Kumar > > > > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > > > > Nandanam Extn, > > > > Chennai 600035, INDIA > > > > MOBILE 9840051861 > > > > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Dear Krishna ji When we engage in doing case studies,inadvertently we may use false charts assuming them as true.This can happen with me as well as you.There is no need for criticism. It is needed when ,we misguide others by framing stories regarding authenticity. Regds Pradeep , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > I assumed that your remarks were targeted at me as I presented > my write-up on Bandhana Yoga and also explained it with > reference to Sanjay Dutt's chart. > > If you say that your comment was not directed to me, I will > accept it on the face value. Hence, please ignore my previous > mail to you. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > Dear Krishnaji > > > > I was not all mentioning about,your case studies.It was > > against some > > people who creates stories about authenticity of data. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > You said: > > > > > > <<<Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas using > > > false horoscopes.>>> > > > > > > I only pity you for your line of thinking. You can't produce > > any > > > authentic birth data (even according to you), except > > following > > > some article based on rumor. And, you call others using > > false > > > horoscopes. Wonderful! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Prashant ji > > > > > > > > Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the > > > > > > paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others > > can > > > > reject.Thus there is no debate here. > > > > > > > > On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious > > manipulations > > > > and > > > > fabrications,done by some to promote their vested > > interests.I > > > > am not > > > > against anyone making benefits out of astrological > > > > consultations ,if > > > > they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology > > a > > > > commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. > > > > > > > > Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage > > is a > > > > > > > > strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities > > > > cannot be > > > > ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana > > yogas > > > > using > > > > false horoscopes. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > hGroup , " astro desk " > > <astro.prashantkumar@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep, Baskar > > > > > > > > > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on > > a > > > > girl > > > > singer [in a > > > > > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who > > is a > > > > women > > > > too and > > > > > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will > > help > > > > us as > > > > all is > > > > > cooked up, fake info and most of them have > > relationships, > > > > children > > > > > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists > > most of > > > > them > > > > have had > > > > > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and > > some > > > > good > > > > people a > > > > > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > > > > > > > > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need > > of an > > > > > > > > answer than > > > > > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis > > for > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to > > them > > > > whatever it be he > > > > > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a > > ref > > > > to > > > > them having a > > > > > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not > > look > > > > at any > > > > normal > > > > > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be > > > > reverse and > > > > some good > > > > > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a > > short > > > > shelf > > > > life and > > > > > make the best when sun shines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted > > > > possible > > > > references in > > > > > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too > > small > > > > in > > > > comparison I > > > > > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to > > make > > > > > > > > living society > > > > > took care of them better than now. so they poured > > sincere , > > > > wise > > > > works > > > > > > > > > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work > > endlessly > > > > free > > > > in groups. > > > > > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a > > website, > > > > Sanjay > > > > Dutt > > > > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned > > as > > > > 1956.Thus > > > > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list > > from > > > > > > > > authentic > > > > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory > > > > stories > > > > posted > > > > > > as support. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > > > > threads.This is > > > > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and > > give > > > > false > > > > info. > > > > > > > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding > > non- > > > > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or > > > > whatever > > > > being > > > > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he > > > > desert his > > > > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and > > > > married > > > > her. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can > > > > ignore,or > > > > say > > > > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be > > > === message truncated === > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. 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Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Dear Pradeepji and cronies, Stop picking on sentences from others mails, and commenting nonsense on them. If You have substance, then produce, or else keep quiet. You are wasting every ones time here. Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Again You started this nonsense. > If I said so what ? Do You believe every word of > mines? Then I have said many other things too,why > dont you believe those ? > > How can you prove that me and my Guruji were not > discussing on any authentic data ? > > First prove that, and then talk nonsense about > fale Horoscopes and Bandhan Yogas. > > I dont know what Bandhan Yogas mean. I never said > that we were discussing Bandhan Yogas. I used > a English word, " we were discussing on factors in > horoscope which cause imprisonment " . Now if > you interpret that as Bandhan Yoga, then it may > be right . But I was talking of imprisonment. > > Anyway lets get to the point and no other > talk. You seem to be very smart in picking up > sentences from others mails and then > shooting comments on same. Kindly refrain > from this, without preparation at your side. > > Now prove that Me and My Guruji were discussing > on wrong data for 3 hours, or else take all your > words back. Can You do this ? No. Then why to speak > in such a manner in the first place ? > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > It is not about some one.You yourself had said,3 hours of discussion > > was there between you and your Guruji like Bandhana yoga etc. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeepji, > > > > > > Do not comment without any knowledge of what You are > > > talking about .Tarunji posted some birth details about > > > a women and asked a Forum of 7000 members > > > whether this chart holds promise for the native to be > > > a singer ?Any good astrologer could have answered that > > > question. But nobody could. > > > Finally Tarunji disclosed the details were of Britney > > > Spears. > > > > > > You are saying that just because someone remembers that > > > Sanjay Dutt would have born before his parents married, > > > another member of this Forum is using Bandhana Yogas > > > using false Horoscopes ? > > > > > > How are these 2 matters connected? > > > Pl explain. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant ji > > > > > > > > Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the > > > > paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others can > > > > reject.Thus there is no debate here. > > > > > > > > On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious manipulations > > and > > > > fabrications,done by some to promote their vested interests.I am > > not > > > > against anyone making benefits out of astrological > > consultations ,if > > > > they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology a > > > > commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. > > > > > > > > Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage is a > > > > strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities cannot > > be > > > > ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas > > using > > > > false horoscopes. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > hGroup , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep, Baskar > > > > > > > > > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on a girl > > > > singer [in a > > > > > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who is a > > women > > > > too and > > > > > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will help us > > as > > > > all is > > > > > cooked up, fake info and most of them have relationships, > > children > > > > > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists most of > > them > > > > have had > > > > > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and some > > good > > > > people a > > > > > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > > > > > > > > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need of an > > > > answer than > > > > > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis for it > > > > > > > > > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to them > > > > whatever it be he > > > > > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a ref to > > > > them having a > > > > > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not look at > > any > > > > normal > > > > > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be reverse > > and > > > > some good > > > > > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a short > > shelf > > > > life and > > > > > make the best when sun shines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted possible > > > > references in > > > > > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too small in > > > > comparison I > > > > > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to make > > > > living society > > > > > took care of them better than now. so they poured sincere , > > wise > > > > works > > > > > > > > > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work endlessly > > free > > > > in groups. > > > > > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a website, > > Sanjay > > > > Dutt > > > > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned as > > > > 1956.Thus > > > > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list from > > > > authentic > > > > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory stories > > > > posted > > > > > > as support. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > > > > threads.This is > > > > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and give > > false > > > > info. > > > > > > > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding non- > > > > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or > > whatever > > > > being > > > > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he desert > > his > > > > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and > > married > > > > her. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can > > ignore,or > > > > say > > > > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be > > posted,when > > > > to > > > > > > keep silence etc is not in the hands of a few individuals. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > <% > > > > 40>, > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I request all to please discontinue these 2 threads. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) ON Sanjay Dutt. > > > > > > > That family is already shattered. Sunil Dutt and > > > > > > > Nargis have been our favourites. And so has been > > > > > > > Sanjay Dutt- as actors.This boy made a mistake which of > > course > > > > > > > cannot be pardoned because he was keeping friendship with > > > > > > > the enemies of the nation, but it was still a mistake. > > > > > > > He is in jail, His parents are no more. What right do we > > have > > > > > > > to talk dirty about them ? Does it behove > > > > > > > of us ? No certainly not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) ON VARGA ASPECTS AND CHARTS. > > > > > > > Nothing conclusive could be produced from that thread, > > > > > > > instead factions were created bewteen members, animosity > > > > > > > and differences of opinions, which persists uptil today. > > > > > > > What is the meaning then of creating more inimical feelings > > > > > > > and ill will ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet if certain people wish to continue this for temporary > > > > > > > false prestige, then so be it. But things could take a ugly > > > > > > > turn is what I sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope all good members agree with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar > > > > > -------- > > > > > For Consultation charges please write to me > > > > > -------- > > > > > G B Prashant Kumar > > > > > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > > > > > Nandanam Extn, > > > > > Chennai 600035, INDIA > > > > > MOBILE 9840051861 > > > > > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 This can happen with anybody that right. But when you point at someone that he is using qrong data, then before pointing a finger at him , all those rest of the 4 fingers pointing at yourself,should contain proof to substantiate the one finger you point at others. You are misguiding others by framing stories and trying to push people to believe its authenticity. a) Having vision in temple. b) Believing rumour of child birth before marriage. The above may be true too, but prove it. Till proved guilty, you dont punish anyone. So prove others as wromg as yourself as right. regards, Bhaskar. , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Krishna ji > > When we engage in doing case studies,inadvertently we may use false > charts assuming them as true.This can happen with me as well as > you.There is no need for criticism. > > It is needed when ,we misguide others by framing stories regarding > authenticity. > > Regds > Pradeep > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > I assumed that your remarks were targeted at me as I presented > > my write-up on Bandhana Yoga and also explained it with > > reference to Sanjay Dutt's chart. > > > > If you say that your comment was not directed to me, I will > > accept it on the face value. Hence, please ignore my previous > > mail to you. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Krishnaji > > > > > > I was not all mentioning about,your case studies.It was > > > against some > > > people who creates stories about authenticity of data. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > You said: > > > > > > > > <<<Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana yogas using > > > > false horoscopes.>>> > > > > > > > > I only pity you for your line of thinking. You can't produce > > > any > > > > authentic birth data (even according to you), except > > > following > > > > some article based on rumor. And, you call others using > > > false > > > > horoscopes. Wonderful! > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant ji > > > > > > > > > > Your view on Vargas are respected and one will present the > > > > > > > > paper.Those who are finding merit can accept while others > > > can > > > > > reject.Thus there is no debate here. > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand ,britney etc,there are serious > > > manipulations > > > > > and > > > > > fabrications,done by some to promote their vested > > > interests.I > > > > > am not > > > > > against anyone making benefits out of astrological > > > > > consultations ,if > > > > > they wish so.It is upto them.But trying to make astrology > > > a > > > > > commodity and selling it in market will not succeed. > > > > > > > > > > Your mememory of Nargis/Dutt having a son before marriage > > > is a > > > > > > > > > > strong point.We are not sure of anything,but possibilities > > > > > cannot be > > > > > ruled out.Atleast people will stop explaining bandhana > > > yogas > > > > > using > > > > > false horoscopes. > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hGroup , " astro desk " > > > <astro.prashantkumar@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep, Baskar > > > > > > > > > > > > I had mentioned 2 months back I said to Tarun 's post on > > > a > > > > > girl > > > > > singer [in a > > > > > > reply to some one today u said not girl but women] who > > > is a > > > > > women > > > > > too and > > > > > > later Britney spears that no celrebrity discussion will > > > help > > > > > us as > > > > > all is > > > > > > cooked up, fake info and most of them have > > > relationships, > > > > > children > > > > > > /abortions before marriage except a few good artists > > > most of > > > > > them > > > > > have had > > > > > > terrible personal lives, show biz is full of filth and > > > some > > > > > good > > > > > people a > > > > > > minority surely we can count good ones on finger tips > > > > > > > > > > > > I will rather discuss personal cases of people in need > > > of an > > > > > > > > > > answer than > > > > > > this gossip subjects and try to fix astrological basis > > > for > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > about what I read in that magazine was about a son to > > > them > > > > > whatever it be he > > > > > > was not a star then nor I remember the date there but a > > > ref > > > > > to > > > > > them having a > > > > > > son before they got married. and in show biz lets not > > > look > > > > > at any > > > > > normal > > > > > > pattern, children then marriage in most cases will be > > > > > reverse and > > > > > some good > > > > > > people will be ok, this is a society opposite of us a > > > short > > > > > shelf > > > > > life and > > > > > > make the best when sun shines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on Vargas I have said what I can say and also quoted > > > > > possible > > > > > references in > > > > > > old Magazines where stalwarts discussed them we r too > > > small > > > > > in > > > > > comparison I > > > > > > merely know they had less distractions, ego and need to > > > make > > > > > > > > > > living society > > > > > > took care of them better than now. so they poured > > > sincere , > > > > > wise > > > > > works > > > > > > > > > > > > we have to balance our life expenses and also work > > > endlessly > > > > > free > > > > > in groups. > > > > > > and on and off get rebuked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/6/07, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody is degrading anyone.I have found from a > > > website, > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > Dutt > > > > > > > is being interviewed,where his birth year is mentioned > > > as > > > > > 1956.Thus > > > > > > > as astrologers we can verify the possibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand,1959 was given by some in this list > > > from > > > > > > > > > > authentic > > > > > > > sources.There were totally ilogical and contradictory > > > > > stories > > > > > posted > > > > > > > as support. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can understand the eagerness of some to stop these > > > > > threads.This is > > > > > > > also against those who tries to misguide others and > > > give > > > > > false > > > > > info. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read Raojis website -He has told the truth regarding > > > non- > > > > > > > verification fo 1959.Nobody is saying 1956 is true or > > > > > whatever > > > > > being > > > > > > > said is right.Possibilities are there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is bad or degrading about Dutt/nargis?Did he > > > > > desert his > > > > > > > child.Late Dutt saved the lady by risking his life and > > > > > married > > > > > her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding Varga charts -Your views are welcome.You can > > > > > ignore,or > > > > > say > > > > > > > it was inconclusive or waste of time etc etc.It is ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way,you can post your opinion.What has to be > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > vehicles. 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