Sanskrit translations (Attempt by a few - K.N.Rao does not know basics)

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When many translations are taken up by a single person,

then there are bound to be mistakes. As long as the

principle is not twisted or misinterpreted, it does

not matter much, but is understood, considering the

magnitude of the data available for translation.

I do not believe, as one member mentioned, that

Santhanamji did not know Sanskrit.This is hitting

below the belt.

 

Even if the tarka is taken that Rs.5- were paid

to the Pundits per shloka, then where is the " pramana " ?

 

If one reads the shlokas and the translations along with

the explanations in Late santhanams books, he has at many

places also given the Sanskrit word ,what is, and what

should have been, or what should be read as. If he

did not know Sanskrit, he could never have done this.

Let us not throw mud,at those who are asleep.

 

Instead those who are awake, and consider themselves as

Sanskrit scholars, let them take up the gigantic tasks

of translating and explaining the great manuscripts still

lying unread and untouched at various places in India,

and help the astrology at large, and I request

they do not waste time on Forums, but immediately

take this noble task.

 

By the way Sanskrit is not so tough as it is made

out to be. Tough is the interpretation part, and not

the translation of sanskrit part. Tough is the choosing

of the various meanings from few coming out of the same

translation.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> Good to see your post. I agree that not all the translations by

Santanam

> appear to indicate, exactly, what is said by the sage Parashara or the

> shlokas attributed to him. There are mistakes here and there. Of course

> he has done a commendable job of compiling and translating the

available

> text. for those more comfortable with English language.

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

>

> Narasimha Rao wrote:

> >

> > Namaste friends,

> >

> > I don't know if the information below is correct or not.

> >

> > However, one thing I can say is that the translations given by

> > Santhanam are not fully reliable. There are places in BPHS where a

> > line can be interpreted in multiple ways and Santhanam gave one

> > interpretation without outlining others for the benefit of readers. In

> > some cases, the interpretation he picked from multiple candidates is

> > questionable. In some other cases, the interpretation he gave is

> > simply impossible and based on an erroneous translation.

> >

> > BPHS translation by Santhanam is definitely a useful work, but by no

> > means accurate or reliable.

> >

> > Translating something like BPHS is not easy. A scholar of Sanskrit

> > without a deep understanding Jyotish and a scholar of Jyotish without

> > mastery over Sanskrit usage will both mess it up.

> >

> > I am a Sanskrit scholar and have a very good comfort level in reading

> > Sanskrit poetry and prose. In the last 15 years, I have studied a

> > little bit of astrology too and have some understanding of the

> > subject. In my weekly Jyotish class in greater Boston, I independently

> > interpret verses from BPHS. When there is scope for multiple

> > interpretations, I outline them all. I then give my pick based on

> > experience when appropriate. Learned astrologers are welcome to take

> > advantage of the free mp3 audio recordings of my classes (see link

below).

> >

> > I see that a lot of youngsters waste their time in unnecessarily

> > bitter arguments (like I used to do a few years back). Truth is

> > in-corruptible. If 1000 people shout loud and teach wrong knowledge,

> > it may become popular but will not survive for long. Only Truth can

> > (and does) survive for ever. There is no death for True knowledge. It

> > is within each being and the being can access it when ready.

> >

> > Before convincing others about the little we know, we should work on

> > improving our own knowledge. I know for a fact that what great

> > teachers teach today is only the tip of the iceberg and there is a lot

> > of knowledge waiting to be re-discovered.

> >

> > Spend more time in meditation and introspection than in argument.

> >

> > If my 2 cents of advice ruffles any feathers, my apologies.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > -------------------------

> > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam>

> > Spirituality:

> > <>

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net>

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > <http://www.SriJagannath.org>

> > -------------------------

> >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > Those of you who are enamoured by Late Shri Santhanam's

> > translations would be delighted to know that he never translated a

> > single book and got it translated through Pandits who knew Sanskrit by

> > paying a measely sum of Rs. 5/- or so per shloka. It is a common

> > knowledge in Delhi's astrological circle.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Manoj

> >

> >

> >

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Namaste Sir,

 

I have not read the entire thread and do not have the time to do so. I visit

rarely, read a handful of posts and respond to specific points.

 

If my personal view is needed on your specific question, here it is. Aspects

of planets and signs can be considered in varga chakras also. By the way,

Parasara refers to planets aspecting lagna in 6 vargas in the chapter on

raja yogas.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

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" S.C. Kursija " <sckursija

 

 

 

> Sh. Narasimha Rao,

> Thanks for guidance and use of translated classic

> books. I agree with you that it is principle of

> psychology and principle used in advertisement that

> speak the lie thousands times, it will become true.

> but you have not guided us that where we should use

> aspect of planets in varga or not.

> With regards.

> --- Narasimha Rao <pvr wrote:

>

>> Namaste friends,

>>

>> I don't know if the information below is correct or

>> not.

>>

>> However, one thing I can say is that the

>> translations given by

>> Santhanam are not fully reliable. There are places

>> in BPHS where a

>> line can be interpreted in multiple ways and

>> Santhanam gave one

>> interpretation without outlining others for the

>> benefit of readers. In

>> some cases, the interpretation he picked from

>> multiple candidates is

>> questionable. In some other cases, the

>> interpretation he gave is

>> simply impossible and based on an erroneous

>> translation.

>>

>> BPHS translation by Santhanam is definitely a useful

>> work, but by no

>> means accurate or reliable.

>>

>> Translating something like BPHS is not easy. A

>> scholar of Sanskrit

>> without a deep understanding Jyotish and a scholar

>> of Jyotish without

>> mastery over Sanskrit usage will both mess it up.

>>

>> I am a Sanskrit scholar and have a very good comfort

>> level in reading

>> Sanskrit poetry and prose. In the last 15 years, I

>> have studied a

>> little bit of astrology too and have some

>> understanding of the

>> subject. In my weekly Jyotish class in greater

>> Boston, I independently

>> interpret verses from BPHS. When there is scope for

>> multiple

>> interpretations, I outline them all. I then give my

>> pick based on

>> experience when appropriate. Learned astrologers are

>> welcome to take

>> advantage of the free mp3 audio recordings of my

>> classes (see link below).

>>

>> I see that a lot of youngsters waste their time in

>> unnecessarily

>> bitter arguments (like I used to do a few years

>> back). Truth is

>> in-corruptible. If 1000 people shout loud and teach

>> wrong knowledge,

>> it may become popular but will not survive for long.

>> Only Truth can

>> (and does) survive for ever. There is no death for

>> True knowledge. It

>> is within each being and the being can access it

>> when ready.

>>

>> Before convincing others about the little we know,

>> we should work on

>> improving our own knowledge. I know for a fact that

>> what great

>> teachers teach today is only the tip of the iceberg

>> and there is a lot

>> of knowledge waiting to be re-discovered.

>>

>> Spend more time in meditation and introspection than

>> in argument.

>>

>> If my 2 cents of advice ruffles any feathers, my

>> apologies.

>>

>> Best regards,

>> Narasimha

>>

>> > Dear all,

>> >

>> > Those of you who are enamoured by Late Shri

>> Santhanam's

>> translations would be delighted to know that he

>> never translated a

>> single book and got it translated through Pandits

>> who knew Sanskrit by

>> paying a measely sum of Rs. 5/- or so per shloka. It

>> is a common

>> knowledge in Delhi's astrological circle.

>> >

>> > regards,

>> >

>> > Manoj

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Members,

 

I forgot to add

 

I don't mean to hurt the feelings of anyone here even accidentally what I

have said is the way we have get misled by the history we have studied and

feel abt Aryan civilisation and dravidian ones, by talking of dravidian I am

not talking of the political divide it has set in and if we discard it

better. till we dig out our real culture all over India no other state has

spent money on knowing its past,rather has destroyed all it can.

 

 

we still don't know the truth must be seen first and we must respect each

other culture in Indian main land as still part of us. nothing is exclusive

or from C asia aryans etc we all share the same space, culture.

 

best wishes

 

On 8/2/07, Narasimha Rao <pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste friends,

>

> I don't know if the information below is correct or not.

>

> However, one thing I can say is that the translations given by

> Santhanam are not fully reliable. There are places in BPHS where a

> line can be interpreted in multiple ways and Santhanam gave one

> interpretation without outlining others for the benefit of readers. In

> some cases, the interpretation he picked from multiple candidates is

> questionable. In some other cases, the interpretation he gave is

> simply impossible and based on an erroneous translation.

>

> BPHS translation by Santhanam is definitely a useful work, but by no

> means accurate or reliable.

>

> Translating something like BPHS is not easy. A scholar of Sanskrit

> without a deep understanding Jyotish and a scholar of Jyotish without

> mastery over Sanskrit usage will both mess it up.

>

> I am a Sanskrit scholar and have a very good comfort level in reading

> Sanskrit poetry and prose. In the last 15 years, I have studied a

> little bit of astrology too and have some understanding of the

> subject. In my weekly Jyotish class in greater Boston, I independently

> interpret verses from BPHS. When there is scope for multiple

> interpretations, I outline them all. I then give my pick based on

> experience when appropriate. Learned astrologers are welcome to take

> advantage of the free mp3 audio recordings of my classes (see link below).

>

> I see that a lot of youngsters waste their time in unnecessarily

> bitter arguments (like I used to do a few years back). Truth is

> in-corruptible. If 1000 people shout loud and teach wrong knowledge,

> it may become popular but will not survive for long. Only Truth can

> (and does) survive for ever. There is no death for True knowledge. It

> is within each being and the being can access it when ready.

>

> Before convincing others about the little we know, we should work on

> improving our own knowledge. I know for a fact that what great

> teachers teach today is only the tip of the iceberg and there is a lot

> of knowledge waiting to be re-discovered.

>

> Spend more time in meditation and introspection than in argument.

>

> If my 2 cents of advice ruffles any feathers, my apologies.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> -------------------------

> Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------

>

> > Dear all,

> >

> > Those of you who are enamoured by Late Shri Santhanam's

> translations would be delighted to know that he never translated a

> single book and got it translated through Pandits who knew Sanskrit by

> paying a measely sum of Rs. 5/- or so per shloka. It is a common

> knowledge in Delhi's astrological circle.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Manoj

>

>

>

 

 

 

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