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Hi R P Singh,

 

Instead of fighting among yourselves why dont you do some good thing - predict

our future ACCURATELY.

 

Each astrologer is saying different prediction about my future and I am

confued and I dont know whom to trust and whom to NOT. ASSHOLES

 

rpsingh2710 <rpsingh2710 wrote:

Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

You know why people do not take you seriously. And it is exactly for

this reason you flare up to be noticed. This is counter-productive.

 

Regards,

 

RP Singh

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear RP Singh ji,

>

> Buy why me only ?

>

> Why would you not comment when Sreenadh or Raja Gursahani

> or venkat yasmin uses uncivilised language ?

> Why this bias?

>

> What wrong have i done you ?

> What harm have I caused You ?

>

> If you dont care about me, then why did you comment in

> the first place. And again you are talking on behalf of

> others, that no one takes me seriously. Why ? Are you

> their leader ?

>

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , " rpsingh2710 " <rpsingh2710@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > I will comment if you will use uncivilised language for any one.

I

> > don't care about your comments. No one takes you seriously any

way.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > RP Singh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear RP Singh ji,

> > >

> > > I do not wish to comment on Pradeepji. He is as much

> > > dear to me as others are.And about you, too I do not

> > > wish to comment unnecessarily. For me its a simple

> > > rule, if one comments on me, then I comment on him,

> > > otherwise I do not.

> > >

> > > Another thing, one cannot turn humble by slapping

> > > some one and then suddenly saying that I am humble.

> > >

> > > So lets not tow that line.

> > >

> > > I hope you would not comment on me again, and give me the

> > > opportunity to retaliate.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " rpsingh2710 "

<rpsingh2710@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > You can go on with your comments. I have learnt to be humble

> > from

> > > > Pradeep ji, who is a scholar with unmatched knowledge.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > RP Singh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > RP Singh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes You were one of the friends that time who

> > > > > supported Sreenadh. And I know why you can co-relate

> > > > > with the word I used " Stupid friends " and " rats " .

> > > > > You feel guilty.

> > > > >

> > > > > Instead of trying to push Bhaskar away, why dont

> > > > > you talk sensible on astrology and prove that You

> > > > > are smart.

> > > > >

> > > > > At least I am honest. and talk from the heart.

> > > > >

> > > > > At least I am trying to stop the

> > > > > unnecessary arguments from continuing.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you have some sense then note that I am not

> > > > > taking any sides, but talking the truth

> > > > > and want all to mantain their self respect.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish no fights should continue here.

> > > > >

> > > > > What has been your contribution ?

> > > > >

> > > > > This is your 4th or 5th mail

> > > > > where you have shown your jealousy and inadequacy by

> > > > > trying to take the Moderators sympathy,but for what

> > > > > cause ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr RP Singh, dont confirm that all Singhs are stupid,

> > > > > by this mail. Dont enter any thread if you have nothing

> > > > > to contribute.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dont try to take sides of injustice.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dont try to look good when you have nothing to

> > > > > show that you are good.

> > > > >

> > > > > Did you ask the Moderator to remove Sreenadh from

> > > > > the Forum

> > > > > 'when he used the word " Mother fuc..r " for me ?

> > > > > Where was your Punjabi Manliness gone that time

> > > > > or Your Bhraminness ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Were you sleeping with a overdose of Depressants

> > > > > that you kept quiet that time?

> > > > > Why suddenly awakened now ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Why talk on behalf of the silent majority ?

> > > > > Are you their leader ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Who made you their leader ? What proof ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Just be away and keep quiet.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " rpsingh2710 "

> > <rpsingh2710@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected moderator,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir, the message of Mr Bhaskar is very offensive to say

the

> > > > least.

> > > > > > He has no right to use such words as " stupid friends "

or "

> > > > > > rats " , " idiotic and senseless tark "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I believe that the silent majority in the group feels

the

> > same

> > > > way.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir, I think you should put the group on moderation to

stop

> > such

> > > > > > occurings over and over again.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respectfully,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RP Singh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Pradeepji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Only a person who does not mind sweeping, is fit

> > > > > > > to sit on the Kings throne.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Only a person who knows to request for pardon,

> > > > > > > and accept his mistakes can control others.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let us face the truth. You have done only tarka

> > > > > > > and no pramana has come forth from your side.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yet without even proper clothing to face the

> > > > > > > freezing cold, and with a small blunt knife

> > > > > > > not even good enought to cut vegetables ,You

> > > > > > > are trying to be a great warrior on the Kargil

> > > > > > > front, is amusing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Your stupid friends have left. Sreenadh,Satish or

> > > > > > > Sateesh whatever and few others. It is a clear

> > > > > > > display of rats skipmpering and leaving the ship

> > > > > > > first when it is about to sink.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The first rat- Sreenadh- who also misquotes the

> > > > > > > Shastras and misinterprets them to his advantage,

> > > > > > > to create artificial hype in public , about his

> > > > > > > greatness,has left. Whatever little knowledge

> > > > > > > you had was contributed from him, as he projects

> > > > > > > in all Forums, as soon as he left, you had nothing

> > > > > > > to contribute, but just defending yourself like a

> > > > > > > women with transparent clothing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Pradeepji, I respect you much, to see you in

> > > > > > > such a position. Have you not seen how Chandrasekharji

> > > > > > > has rubbed you everyday with his mails since a

fortnight ?

> > > > > > > And he was right, and you were wrong. Therefore he had

> > > > > > > full right to rub you. But why were you in such a

> > vulnerable

> > > > > > > position ? because You kept yourself open,with your

idiotic

> > > > > > > and senseless tarka without any pramana and sang (

> > > > > > > Companionship) of fools whom you thought

> > > > > > > would support you and defend your interpretations or

> > > > > > > misinterpretations. But where are these rats now ?

> > > > > > > Why are you left alone ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Who knows for real that who is right ?

> > > > > > > Either You or Chandrasekharji ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Only time would show. Till then why dont you

> > > > > > > keep quiet, instead of allowing yourself

> > > > > > > to be rubbed by one and all. What is the harm in

> > > > > > > accepting your defeat ? Why such a Big EGO ?

> > > > > > > For the time being accept that You may be wrong and

> > > > > > > they may be right.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the meanwhile consolidate your studies, do some

> > > > > > > research, prove your principles through theseis and

> > > > > > > publish them. Then all those who have been rubbing

> > > > > > > you, would start touching Your feet .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But at the moment you have no ammunitions

> > > > > > > to defend yourself, so just dont

> > > > > > > make a fool of yourself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Accept silence and pardon.

> > > > > > > Period,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I repeat,we have to take a relook at basics whenever

in

> > > > > > doubt.This

> > > > > > > > does not mean K.N.Raoji does not know basics -it is

your

> > > > > > > > interpretation.I am no man to judge whether Raoji

has

> > > > understood

> > > > > > > > basics or not.It is beyond my capacities.He may be

> > having

> > > > his

> > > > > > own

> > > > > > > > reasons.It is upto him to say whe he use aspects.Not

me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For me i have presented my case with Tarka and

> > Pramana.Now i

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > present my views in a structured fashion.Those who

wish

> > can

> > > > > > respond.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regarding,Kalyan Varma etc ...explanations were

> > > > > > given.Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > ji had explained to shri Rohini ranjan in the past

> > > > > > too.Supporting

> > > > > > > > Pramana will be given in the paper.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Late Santhanams view -no more comment.When Lste

> > Santhanam

> > > > has

> > > > > > > > written in plain English in BPHS...there is no point

in

> > > > > > discussing

> > > > > > > > your views about opposition,though one can respect

it as

> > > > > > personal

> > > > > > > > view.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You may keep on trying to create rift between

people,if

> > you

> > > > love

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > do so.Let us see whether you succeed or not.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Vijayaads Pradeep is different from

> > > > > > > > Srutakeerthi,Jeevasharma,Garga,Thalakkulathu

Bhattathiri

> > > > > > etc.Thus it

> > > > > > > > is not my Sanskrit interpretation.But you may try

this

> > > > tactic

> > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > if you have nothing technical to offer.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I would like to remind you politely,efforts to

create

> > rift

> > > > will

> > > > > > > > remain unsuccesful.But whether to continue this or

not

> > is

> > > > upto

> > > > > > you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For me if i have to concentrate on my duties and

> > > > > > > > promises.Oppoistions and obstacles are normal.I have

> > been an

> > > > > > > > optimist and will always remain.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regds

> > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang

> > > > <jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradeep ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I would like to mention a few words regarding

the

> > > > attempts

> > > > > > made

> > > > > > > > by a

> > > > > > > > > > some.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1)When one is asked to have a relook at the

basics -

> > It

> > > > > > is ''high

> > > > > > > > > > lighted'' by some as ''K.N.Rao does not know

> > basics''.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Prafulla] Well, Pradeep ji - your statements on

forum

> > can

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > have two meanings - one for Shri KN Rao and another

one

> > for

> > > > > > members

> > > > > > > > arguing with you. We did not comment on anyone's

basics,

> > but

> > > > it

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > you who were questioning " basics " of the members

with

> > > > respect to

> > > > > > D

> > > > > > > > chakra and its interpretation. You were mentioning

that

> > > > sages

> > > > > > said

> > > > > > > > this, whereas they were your opinion on what " sages "

> > > > mentioned.

> > > > > > So

> > > > > > > > when people not agreeing to your opinion can be

> > subjected to

> > > > > > those

> > > > > > > > forceful questioning on " basics " , then why not all

those

> > > > people,

> > > > > > > > whose views are in contrast to your view. You should

> > have

> > > > been

> > > > > > > > careful in your comments in questioning " basics " of

the

> > > > people

> > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > are not agreeing to your view.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2)When Points are presented with the help of

Tarka

> > and

> > > > > > > > Pramana,one

> > > > > > > > > > may counter them through Tarka and

> > Pramana.Unfortunately

> > > > it

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > used

> > > > > > > > > > as a vehicle to create rift between K.N.Raoji

and

> > his

> > > > > > students as

> > > > > > > > > > well as between K.N.Raoji and individuals having

> > good

> > > > > > rapport

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Prafulla] Pradeep ji, I am indeed surprised to

see

> > your

> > > > > > > > objections, if your opinion is conveyed to Shri KN

rao

> > > > > > > > in " verbatim " . Trust me, If I meet him - I will not

> > twist

> > > > your

> > > > > > > > words, but will produce your own mails. So now you

mean

> > to

> > > > say

> > > > > > that -

> > > > > > > > those mails must not be applicable to him? Let this

> > tarka

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > pramana theory from your own perspective, be also

known

> > to

> > > > him.

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > With my rapport with him since 1993, let me advise

you -

> > so

> > > > he

> > > > > > > > likes jyotish exploration. So where is the question

of

> > any

> > > > rift?

> > > > > > If

> > > > > > > > it is your own words are troubling you, then it was

your

> > > > call

> > > > > > dear.

> > > > > > > > None of the other members, questioned the " basics "

> > including

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > yours.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Shri Satya did object to your contents of your

mail

> > > > > > on " basics " ,

> > > > > > > > but you persisted with forceful conversion.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Moreover some are not interested in knowing the

> > > > Truth,but to

> > > > > > > > > > aggravate things and create rift and fight.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Prafulla] is it? We all presented classics

(Kalyan

> > > > Varma),

> > > > > > case

> > > > > > > > studies (late Santhanam) and opinion of so many

learned

> > > > people.

> > > > > > But

> > > > > > > > you kept on overruling them for your whims and now

> > asking

> > > > for

> > > > > > truth

> > > > > > > > and praman. It was never twisted or misquoted - but

by

> > you

> > > > all

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > time to win the argument. Can truth only be those

> > things,

> > > > which

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > propogated?. and Can pramana can only be your

sankstri

> > > > > > translations?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3)When such comments are ignored - some say,one

is

> > > > selective.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Prafulla] is it? You ignored the predicitve

> > challenges on

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > chart. You ignored case studies of Late Santhanam.

You

> > > > ignored

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > many areas, where members presented - but you always

> > opted

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > consider those points (even in articles), which

suited

> > your

> > > > > > > > argument. So sir, had we been closed minded - we

would

> > not

> > > > have

> > > > > > > > discussed at all. But if you reread all the mails

and

> > select

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > points skipped - then it may taken another long list

of

> > > > mails to

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > answered.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It is so sad to see how people are unable to

take

> > > > Jyotish

> > > > > > > > debates in

> > > > > > > > > > an objective sense.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If somebody is not in agreement with a

particular

> > > > > > understanding

> > > > > > > > of a

> > > > > > > > > > scholar - it can no way mean,one is degrading

that

> > > > scholar

> > > > > > as a

> > > > > > > > > > whole.But unfortunately some are trying to

create

> > rift

> > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > > individuals and twist Jyotish debates as

disrespect

> > > > towards

> > > > > > > > learned

> > > > > > > > > > men.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Prafulla] Who degraded any scholar? who

questioned

> > the

> > > > basics

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the people? Sir - if you are so sure of your opinion

> > then,

> > > > what

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > the problem? None of us except you, have implied a

> > single

> > > > > > negative

> > > > > > > > comment on any learned person. When Shri

Chandrasekhar

> > ji

> > > > > > explained

> > > > > > > > the views available in classics - you even rediculed

> > those

> > > > > > sages. At

> > > > > > > > one stage, you said that BV Raman did not read

> > Dashadhayayi.

> > > > So

> > > > > > sir

> > > > > > > > please restrain defending your lies.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In that case there is no need for discussion

groups

> > or

> > > > > > > > debates.Every

> > > > > > > > > > one can say i am in the group of Raoji,Sanjayji

etc

> > as

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > politics

> > > > > > > > > > and support individual manifestos.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Prafulla] well - if any argument is restricted to

> > closed

> > > > > > minded

> > > > > > > > approach with trust being implied, ponly when

suiting

> > your

> > > > > > argument -

> > > > > > > > then certainly such debates have no place. But if

> > > > astrologer is

> > > > > > > > capable to predict with his interpretation model,

then

> > only

> > > > it

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > called PRAMANA. Until then - it is only called

bright

> > ideas -

> > > >

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > necessarily genuine one.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > No one is supporting any manifestos. It is you -

who

> > are

> > > > > > choosing

> > > > > > > > political terms. We simply respect, what each

scholar

> > says -

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > want to see it it works or not? Can you prove with

the

> > > > > > predictive

> > > > > > > > challenges? if yes - we can have debates on any

> > astrological

> > > > > > > > principle.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regds

> > > > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > > > > > > http://www.prafulla.net

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > " There are two kinds of people in the world, those

who

> > > > believe

> > > > > > > > there are two kinds of people in the world and those

who

> > > > don't. "

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