Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Hi R P Singh, Instead of fighting among yourselves why dont you do some good thing - predict our future ACCURATELY. Each astrologer is saying different prediction about my future and I am confued and I dont know whom to trust and whom to NOT. ASSHOLES rpsingh2710 <rpsingh2710 wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji, You know why people do not take you seriously. And it is exactly for this reason you flare up to be noticed. This is counter-productive. Regards, RP Singh , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear RP Singh ji, > > Buy why me only ? > > Why would you not comment when Sreenadh or Raja Gursahani > or venkat yasmin uses uncivilised language ? > Why this bias? > > What wrong have i done you ? > What harm have I caused You ? > > If you dont care about me, then why did you comment in > the first place. And again you are talking on behalf of > others, that no one takes me seriously. Why ? Are you > their leader ? > > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , " rpsingh2710 " <rpsingh2710@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > I will comment if you will use uncivilised language for any one. I > > don't care about your comments. No one takes you seriously any way. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > RP Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear RP Singh ji, > > > > > > I do not wish to comment on Pradeepji. He is as much > > > dear to me as others are.And about you, too I do not > > > wish to comment unnecessarily. For me its a simple > > > rule, if one comments on me, then I comment on him, > > > otherwise I do not. > > > > > > Another thing, one cannot turn humble by slapping > > > some one and then suddenly saying that I am humble. > > > > > > So lets not tow that line. > > > > > > I hope you would not comment on me again, and give me the > > > opportunity to retaliate. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rpsingh2710 " <rpsingh2710@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > You can go on with your comments. I have learnt to be humble > > from > > > > Pradeep ji, who is a scholar with unmatched knowledge. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > RP Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > RP Singh, > > > > > > > > > > Yes You were one of the friends that time who > > > > > supported Sreenadh. And I know why you can co-relate > > > > > with the word I used " Stupid friends " and " rats " . > > > > > You feel guilty. > > > > > > > > > > Instead of trying to push Bhaskar away, why dont > > > > > you talk sensible on astrology and prove that You > > > > > are smart. > > > > > > > > > > At least I am honest. and talk from the heart. > > > > > > > > > > At least I am trying to stop the > > > > > unnecessary arguments from continuing. > > > > > > > > > > If you have some sense then note that I am not > > > > > taking any sides, but talking the truth > > > > > and want all to mantain their self respect. > > > > > > > > > > I wish no fights should continue here. > > > > > > > > > > What has been your contribution ? > > > > > > > > > > This is your 4th or 5th mail > > > > > where you have shown your jealousy and inadequacy by > > > > > trying to take the Moderators sympathy,but for what > > > > > cause ? > > > > > > > > > > Mr RP Singh, dont confirm that all Singhs are stupid, > > > > > by this mail. Dont enter any thread if you have nothing > > > > > to contribute. > > > > > > > > > > Dont try to take sides of injustice. > > > > > > > > > > Dont try to look good when you have nothing to > > > > > show that you are good. > > > > > > > > > > Did you ask the Moderator to remove Sreenadh from > > > > > the Forum > > > > > 'when he used the word " Mother fuc..r " for me ? > > > > > Where was your Punjabi Manliness gone that time > > > > > or Your Bhraminness ? > > > > > > > > > > Were you sleeping with a overdose of Depressants > > > > > that you kept quiet that time? > > > > > Why suddenly awakened now ? > > > > > > > > > > Why talk on behalf of the silent majority ? > > > > > Are you their leader ? > > > > > > > > > > Who made you their leader ? What proof ? > > > > > > > > > > Just be away and keep quiet. > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rpsingh2710 " > > <rpsingh2710@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected moderator, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, the message of Mr Bhaskar is very offensive to say the > > > > least. > > > > > > He has no right to use such words as " stupid friends " or " > > > > > > rats " , " idiotic and senseless tark " > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that the silent majority in the group feels the > > same > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, I think you should put the group on moderation to stop > > such > > > > > > occurings over and over again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > RP Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeepji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only a person who does not mind sweeping, is fit > > > > > > > to sit on the Kings throne. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only a person who knows to request for pardon, > > > > > > > and accept his mistakes can control others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us face the truth. You have done only tarka > > > > > > > and no pramana has come forth from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet without even proper clothing to face the > > > > > > > freezing cold, and with a small blunt knife > > > > > > > not even good enought to cut vegetables ,You > > > > > > > are trying to be a great warrior on the Kargil > > > > > > > front, is amusing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your stupid friends have left. Sreenadh,Satish or > > > > > > > Sateesh whatever and few others. It is a clear > > > > > > > display of rats skipmpering and leaving the ship > > > > > > > first when it is about to sink. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first rat- Sreenadh- who also misquotes the > > > > > > > Shastras and misinterprets them to his advantage, > > > > > > > to create artificial hype in public , about his > > > > > > > greatness,has left. Whatever little knowledge > > > > > > > you had was contributed from him, as he projects > > > > > > > in all Forums, as soon as he left, you had nothing > > > > > > > to contribute, but just defending yourself like a > > > > > > > women with transparent clothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeepji, I respect you much, to see you in > > > > > > > such a position. Have you not seen how Chandrasekharji > > > > > > > has rubbed you everyday with his mails since a fortnight ? > > > > > > > And he was right, and you were wrong. Therefore he had > > > > > > > full right to rub you. But why were you in such a > > vulnerable > > > > > > > position ? because You kept yourself open,with your idiotic > > > > > > > and senseless tarka without any pramana and sang ( > > > > > > > Companionship) of fools whom you thought > > > > > > > would support you and defend your interpretations or > > > > > > > misinterpretations. But where are these rats now ? > > > > > > > Why are you left alone ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who knows for real that who is right ? > > > > > > > Either You or Chandrasekharji ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only time would show. Till then why dont you > > > > > > > keep quiet, instead of allowing yourself > > > > > > > to be rubbed by one and all. What is the harm in > > > > > > > accepting your defeat ? Why such a Big EGO ? > > > > > > > For the time being accept that You may be wrong and > > > > > > > they may be right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the meanwhile consolidate your studies, do some > > > > > > > research, prove your principles through theseis and > > > > > > > publish them. Then all those who have been rubbing > > > > > > > you, would start touching Your feet . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But at the moment you have no ammunitions > > > > > > > to defend yourself, so just dont > > > > > > > make a fool of yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Accept silence and pardon. > > > > > > > Period, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I repeat,we have to take a relook at basics whenever in > > > > > > doubt.This > > > > > > > > does not mean K.N.Raoji does not know basics -it is your > > > > > > > > interpretation.I am no man to judge whether Raoji has > > > > understood > > > > > > > > basics or not.It is beyond my capacities.He may be > > having > > > > his > > > > > > own > > > > > > > > reasons.It is upto him to say whe he use aspects.Not me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me i have presented my case with Tarka and > > Pramana.Now i > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > present my views in a structured fashion.Those who wish > > can > > > > > > respond. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding,Kalyan Varma etc ...explanations were > > > > > > given.Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > ji had explained to shri Rohini ranjan in the past > > > > > > too.Supporting > > > > > > > > Pramana will be given in the paper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Late Santhanams view -no more comment.When Lste > > Santhanam > > > > has > > > > > > > > written in plain English in BPHS...there is no point in > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > your views about opposition,though one can respect it as > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may keep on trying to create rift between people,if > > you > > > > love > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > do so.Let us see whether you succeed or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijayaads Pradeep is different from > > > > > > > > Srutakeerthi,Jeevasharma,Garga,Thalakkulathu Bhattathiri > > > > > > etc.Thus it > > > > > > > > is not my Sanskrit interpretation.But you may try this > > > > tactic > > > > > > again > > > > > > > > if you have nothing technical to offer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to remind you politely,efforts to create > > rift > > > > will > > > > > > > > remain unsuccesful.But whether to continue this or not > > is > > > > upto > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me if i have to concentrate on my duties and > > > > > > > > promises.Oppoistions and obstacles are normal.I have > > been an > > > > > > > > optimist and will always remain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang > > > > <jyotish@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to mention a few words regarding the > > > > attempts > > > > > > made > > > > > > > > by a > > > > > > > > > > some. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)When one is asked to have a relook at the basics - > > It > > > > > > is ''high > > > > > > > > > > lighted'' by some as ''K.N.Rao does not know > > basics''. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Prafulla] Well, Pradeep ji - your statements on forum > > can > > > > not > > > > > > > > have two meanings - one for Shri KN Rao and another one > > for > > > > > > members > > > > > > > > arguing with you. We did not comment on anyone's basics, > > but > > > > it > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > you who were questioning " basics " of the members with > > > > respect to > > > > > > D > > > > > > > > chakra and its interpretation. You were mentioning that > > > > sages > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > this, whereas they were your opinion on what " sages " > > > > mentioned. > > > > > > So > > > > > > > > when people not agreeing to your opinion can be > > subjected to > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > forceful questioning on " basics " , then why not all those > > > > people, > > > > > > > > whose views are in contrast to your view. You should > > have > > > > been > > > > > > > > careful in your comments in questioning " basics " of the > > > > people > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > are not agreeing to your view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When Points are presented with the help of Tarka > > and > > > > > > > > Pramana,one > > > > > > > > > > may counter them through Tarka and > > Pramana.Unfortunately > > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > used > > > > > > > > > > as a vehicle to create rift between K.N.Raoji and > > his > > > > > > students as > > > > > > > > > > well as between K.N.Raoji and individuals having > > good > > > > > > rapport > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Prafulla] Pradeep ji, I am indeed surprised to see > > your > > > > > > > > objections, if your opinion is conveyed to Shri KN rao > > > > > > > > in " verbatim " . Trust me, If I meet him - I will not > > twist > > > > your > > > > > > > > words, but will produce your own mails. So now you mean > > to > > > > say > > > > > > that - > > > > > > > > those mails must not be applicable to him? Let this > > tarka > > > > and > > > > > > > > pramana theory from your own perspective, be also known > > to > > > > him. > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > With my rapport with him since 1993, let me advise you - > > so > > > > he > > > > > > > > likes jyotish exploration. So where is the question of > > any > > > > rift? > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > it is your own words are troubling you, then it was your > > > > call > > > > > > dear. > > > > > > > > None of the other members, questioned the " basics " > > including > > > > of > > > > > > > > yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Satya did object to your contents of your mail > > > > > > on " basics " , > > > > > > > > but you persisted with forceful conversion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover some are not interested in knowing the > > > > Truth,but to > > > > > > > > > > aggravate things and create rift and fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Prafulla] is it? We all presented classics (Kalyan > > > > Varma), > > > > > > case > > > > > > > > studies (late Santhanam) and opinion of so many learned > > > > people. > > > > > > But > > > > > > > > you kept on overruling them for your whims and now > > asking > > > > for > > > > > > truth > > > > > > > > and praman. It was never twisted or misquoted - but by > > you > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > time to win the argument. Can truth only be those > > things, > > > > which > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > propogated?. and Can pramana can only be your sankstri > > > > > > translations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)When such comments are ignored - some say,one is > > > > selective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Prafulla] is it? You ignored the predicitve > > challenges on > > > > the > > > > > > > > chart. You ignored case studies of Late Santhanam. You > > > > ignored > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > many areas, where members presented - but you always > > opted > > > > to > > > > > > > > consider those points (even in articles), which suited > > your > > > > > > > > argument. So sir, had we been closed minded - we would > > not > > > > have > > > > > > > > discussed at all. But if you reread all the mails and > > select > > > > the > > > > > > > > points skipped - then it may taken another long list of > > > > mails to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > answered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is so sad to see how people are unable to take > > > > Jyotish > > > > > > > > debates in > > > > > > > > > > an objective sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If somebody is not in agreement with a particular > > > > > > understanding > > > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > > > scholar - it can no way mean,one is degrading that > > > > scholar > > > > > > as a > > > > > > > > > > whole.But unfortunately some are trying to create > > rift > > > > > > between > > > > > > > > > > individuals and twist Jyotish debates as disrespect > > > > towards > > > > > > > > learned > > > > > > > > > > men. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Prafulla] Who degraded any scholar? who questioned > > the > > > > basics > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the people? Sir - if you are so sure of your opinion > > then, > > > > what > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the problem? None of us except you, have implied a > > single > > > > > > negative > > > > > > > > comment on any learned person. When Shri Chandrasekhar > > ji > > > > > > explained > > > > > > > > the views available in classics - you even rediculed > > those > > > > > > sages. At > > > > > > > > one stage, you said that BV Raman did not read > > Dashadhayayi. > > > > So > > > > > > sir > > > > > > > > please restrain defending your lies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In that case there is no need for discussion groups > > or > > > > > > > > debates.Every > > > > > > > > > > one can say i am in the group of Raoji,Sanjayji etc > > as > > > > in > > > > > > > > politics > > > > > > > > > > and support individual manifestos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Prafulla] well - if any argument is restricted to > > closed > > > > > > minded > > > > > > > > approach with trust being implied, ponly when suiting > > your > > > > > > argument - > > > > > > > > then certainly such debates have no place. But if > > > > astrologer is > > > > > > > > capable to predict with his interpretation model, then > > only > > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > called PRAMANA. Until then - it is only called bright > > ideas - > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > necessarily genuine one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No one is supporting any manifestos. It is you - who > > are > > > > > > choosing > > > > > > > > political terms. We simply respect, what each scholar > > says - > > > > and > > > > > > > > want to see it it works or not? Can you prove with the > > > > > > predictive > > > > > > > > challenges? if yes - we can have debates on any > > astrological > > > > > > > > principle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > > http://www.prafulla.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " There are two kinds of people in the world, those who > > > > believe > > > > > > > > there are two kinds of people in the world and those who > > > > don't. 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