Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 OM Datta Guru Dear Bharat, First i was laughing if u were making a joke > I wonder why such a person is being asked to present a " white " paper, when > everything is so dark about it. Then after some thought i realised maybe u were not. The issue now i understand is correct for anyone to prepare a white or black paper or Grey Paper, things must be unbiased while presenting but thats not the case here as we do not know basics and infact KNRao must not be knowing basics. I still feel its so sad not a single student of KNR came forward. Desh paraya hogaya best wishes SJ , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote: > > Namaste Prafulla > > It is easy to show oneself as a victim after showing disrespect to > Scriptures, Astrology Teachers, Group members and people in general by > twisting meaning of their words, by doubting their intent, by creating > imagined groupism, by choosing not to answer most of the queries, etc... the > list is long and endless. I wonder who the victim is. > > Btw, I know a person in Delhi who does that and he turned out to be a > narcissist. He plays victim when opposition is strong but manipulates > everything to have his own way. Not to suggest that our member here is like > that - but, I am keeping my fingers crossed. > > I wonder why such a person is being asked to present a " white " paper, when > everything is so dark about it. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > On 7/30/07, Prafulla Gang jyotish wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Pradeep ji > > > > Sometime, I fail to understand as to what you are intending to prove? You > > proposed theory - not us !!, you twist the thread - not us!! , you misquoted > > - not us!! You did not answer questions posted on charts ? and so on. > > > > During the thread, you come up with funny contentions that - you are not > > yet ready with the theory? Then you change the whole argument from existence > > of varga chakra to aspects in varga chakra. Then you selectively bring in an > > article - who questioned Aspects in varga - but you kept quiet on his other > > contents, where he believed in varga chakra and combinations. Same was > > repeated for Late Shri Santhanam. > > > > In jyotish, an astrologer must not talk of any theory - if he can not > > instantly apply on the charts presented during the discussions. If he > > himself is unable to explain through charts, then what is the use of > > presenting such theories. Are forum memebers sitting idle to read > > unsubstantiated notes for years? > > > > When Shri Chandrasekhar ji explicitly explained the validity of varga > > chakra, combinations and aspects (even selectively) - you twisted back to > > his personal opinion. You accept one sages's comment but selectively ignore > > his other statements. > > > > At each stage - the whole thread is tormented and selectively answered and > > later on it was purely twisted to only one question -i.e. aspects in D > > chakra. Read all your mails and make a honest statement, if that was the > > sole contention. > > > > Now also coming to KN Rao's opinion - you chosen to ignore. Sir - if you > > claim to have discussion with him on varga chakra, then what is wrong in > > sharing that. If that is so - then do not even quote that or even do not > > start the thread, which can not be answered transparently. Now you say - do > > not press for that? Why not press for that - if any specific technical > > issues is pending on the thread and you have discussed that with him. it is > > not the question of discussing secret information or public information - > > but of the forum time and space - taken by your thread in past few weeks. > > Sir I would have appreciated your statement on KN rao - if you had > > opportunity to discuss or not? and if Yes - what was his opinion. No point > > in making circular statements. But it is intriguing that - if one the > > " basics " of Shri KN Rao, which you find " wrong " and in your personal > > meetings - you did not have opportunity? so why quote him on the list - even > > selectively. What type of jyotish explorations are taking place? I think - > > Shri KN rao students must submit your statements of - people not knowing > > " basics " to him personally, when opportunity arises - as this list includes > > him also. > > > > People have been listening to all these propogation without exhibition > > through a single chart. and You say - you are not ready as yet. if this one > > is the honest statement - then, why waste time of people and try for > > forceful conversion. if people do not listen, you raise the question of > > learning basics. I asked a simple question - did all those great names > > quoted lacked their knwoledge on basics? But you again skipped to answer. > > > > Now you say that - people with wrong theories can also prove !! Sir - if > > you are very sure of the wrong theories of many great astrologers - why are > > you not opting to answer my simple one question in YES or NO that - did they > > misled the house? and why are you not taking predictive challenge on this > > same forum. > > > > People who can not demonstrate through predictions, must not propogate any > > theories. They are expecting people to listen, without a single predictive > > exhibition - and that too for few years. Oh I forgot - you claimed to > > predict one chart in 2 years on Gordon. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > http://www.prafulla.net > > > > There are two kinds of light: (a) the glow that illumines, and (b) the > > glare that obscures. > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep%40> > > > Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:55:16 -0000 > > > <%40> > > > Proof of Pudding > > > > > > Dear Krishna ji and respected members > > > > > > During all these years of my debate,it has been suggested that > > > please go and see in charts,if they work or not.Proof ,Pudding etc > > > and waht not.All those proposals were using controversial principles. > > > > > > Now i have demonstrated using aspects etc which has no > > > controvery.Still what is the public opinion - you haven't proved > > > anything. > > > > > > Ok let us say -i agree with you.What is the moral of the story? > > > Anyone can prove anything ,even if they use wrong principels.Thus > > > this proof,pudding etc cannot objectively say,which was the cause. > > > > > > For the same reason,one has to see the fundamentals and verify the > > > rules.I have been waiting to reach this stage.When my examples are > > > given - it does not prove anything. > > > > > > But when Varga chakras ,with 100's of principles are consuidered -it > > > becomes beautiful? Am i fairly treated.Let the astrological > > > community decide whether i am given a good pudding or not:-) > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > ________ > > ONE-CLICK WEBMAIL ACCESS - Easily monitor & access your email accounts! > > Visit http://www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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