[JG] Some thoughts about astrology - 1 - Repeted for Prashant 30/7

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Dear Sri Prashant,

 

THanks for sharing your expeiriences and opinions.

 

Satya Sai Kolachina

 

, " astro desk "

<astro.prashantkumar wrote:

>

> Dear Satya,

>

> It is true there is a parampara thread or catalyst in predictions

to open

> secret doors that come thru sadhana not only of the subject,

concepts gen

> dharmich life style but also the blessings of the guru who see a

worthy one

> among many of his students and transfers the key also.

>

> I can say to some extent I have earned this but not they yet yet a

[mantra

> beeja which opens it for u thru ur guru] I have spent 6 months at a

stretch

> with my Guru in Bangalore and been there for all his troubled times

like

> loss of daughter at her 40th yr his, wife 2 yrs later and troubles

with his

> sons, court cases, and his cataract operations etc he preferred me

to be

> with him than his sons, did share material, experience with me, his

sons

> feel reading his collection helps and have disrespected him, I said

he is

> the best book rest is token and u won't get it later if u want it

also.

>

> not all knowledge is written in books even by eminent astrologers

as good

> knowledge can be mis-used just like the Nuke energy if Einstien

regret is to

> be understood a dual use one was misused to hurt/destroy a large

chunk of

> humanity knowledge in human hands is key, which a Guru alone can

decide. so

> never plubish them in public domain. selling a trade secret is not

the

> criteria is a misleading concept.

>

> without sadhana, spiritual binder we surely will get nowhere as

said often a

> good software can do better compared to such people and with

sadhana we get

> the cutting edge in interpretations as it is gods grace that will

finally

> give us the clues to read not our knowledge in such detail.

>

> i started Gyathri recital in early 89 when i started getting better

rusults

> in interpreting charts than the past 3 yrs. though I had my thread

ceremony

> done only in 92 and continue it in the sandhya vandana and

Navagraha stotras

> etc. may be as time rools on will add few more to keep raising the

bar on

> spiritual side just like a weight lifter raises his weight scales

we too

> must do more. can help more with better balance of the almighty

grace and

> our knowledge

>

> best wishes

>

>

>

>

>

> On 7/29/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sri Bhaskar,

> >

> > Thnaks for your kind words. I speak from heart. I believe that

> > astrology is a PRACTICE; not just theory (those it is based on

> > theory). Hence we have to immerse ourselves in this divine

science.

> > Many successful predictions have come from transfer of knowledge

(or

> > astrological secrets) within the family (or specific parampara)

and

> > we will not find them in any of the books we get in the market.

> >

> > Just one more point I would mention here. Those who do not agree

with

> > my view, are welcome; but I am not really looking to open a thread

> > for debate here. With respect to astrology, I always superimpose

the

> > layer of spirituality over the scientific approach. I have seen

some

> > astrologers (of younger generations) not willing to accept this

> > concept. I am sure they are also bound by their destiny, and hence

> > their views are according to their destiny. In my perspective, all

> > vedic astrologers (without exception) should have spiritual

saadhana,

> > if they really look at vedic astrology as a spiritual subject. If

> > they do not look at vedic astrology as spiritual subject, they may

> > not do spiritual saadhana; as many such astrologers argued with me

> > that it is just another science like medicine or engineering. I

try

> > to avoid arguing with such people; since it is a waste of my time.

> > THe moment we have chosen to study vedic astrology, we need to

> > understand that we have automatically accepted the necessary

> > commitment of spiritual energy to astrology.

> >

> > I found a level of honesty in your posts, and hence I am asking

you a

> > question; if you do not mind, if you can answer I would appreciate

> > your honest answer. Did you ever notice how much of your inner

energy

> > (I mean spiritual energy) gets drained out every day when you are

> > deeply involved in doing astrology (either research or helping the

> > clients). The only way you get refill yourself with that energy is

> > through spiritual saadhana. I am not talking here the physical

drain

> > of energy; since you live in Bombay, there may be considerable

> > physical energy loss, as I can imagine; but on the spiritual side,

> > you certainly notice it; if you did not notice before, try

observing

> > it on a daily basis. Regular spiritual saadhana will refill that

> > energy; those who do spiritual saadhana on a regular basis can

> > understand what I am referring to. Those who do not do currently,

can

> > experiment doing it and feel for themselves.

> >

> > In my opinion, every vedic astrologer has to worship Navagrahas

on a

> > regular basis (if not daily). Planets have to bless us to give

> > correct predictions; there is no alternative. Every single house

> > represents hundreds of aspects of life; every planet represents

> > several hundreds of traits. Sri KN Rao said in one of his

articles,

> > that an astrologer should be able to visualize the dance drama

(like

> > a cinema) that the planets are playing within the boundary of the

> > horoscope. He gave several instances of great mahatmas, and

including

> > his mother's predictions. These articles are enough to understand

the

> > level of spirituality involved in this great science; no debate is

> > necessary.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Satya S Kolachina

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Satya Sai ji,

> > >

> > > I must say, that I find your posts,

> > > really,the most practical

> > > and containing sense, amongst all the

> > > postings this Forum. You echo my own

> > > feelings, in all your messages.

> > >

> > > I enjoy reading your frank utterances.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <%

40>,

> > " Satya Sai Kolachina "

> > > <skolachi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > >

> > > > Since my post is two weeks older, it may be difficult to

search

> > in

> > > > the group. I am just copying it here for your sake. This was

> > > > originally addressed to Sri Prafulla.

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sri Prafulla !

> > > > You said the right way. Traditionally, astrological readings

are

> > done

> > > > privately, to the person who wanted it, or at the most, in the

> > > > presence of his family members like parents or other well-

wishers

> > > > whereever appropriate.

> > > >

> > > > We should not forget there are 9 planets and 12 houses in

every

> > one's

> > > > chart; and only half of them are benefic and the other half

are

> > > > malefic. The benefic ones deliver the good karma results of

past

> > > > lives and the malefic ones deliver the bad karma results. No

one

> > born

> > > > on the earth can escape from these 9 planets and 12 houses.

> > Therefore

> > > > it is highly ridiculous to point out at others and say 'Your

Sani

> > or

> > > > Your Mars...'. When I hear comments from people like this,

then I

> > > > don't know how to estimate the maturity/immaturity level of

the

> > > > particular astrologer, and when he/she would realize the

> > underlying

> > > > principle of astrology. Sani doesn't belong to Bhaskar or

Satya

> > or

> > > > Prafulla.

> > > >

> > > > If an astrologer doesn't recognize these basic-basic

principles

> > (I am

> > > > not even talking about the core principles of astrology), that

> > person

> > > > is unfit as an astrologery. One may argue against my views; I

> > just

> > > > welcome those views and ignore them; because truth is truth.

ONE

> > WHO

> > > > CANNOT UNDERSTNAD THESE SUBTLE BEHAVIORAL REQUIREMENTS IS

UNFIT

> > TO BE

> > > > AN ASTROLOGER, though he may be well-versed in all the

sastras,

> > but

> > > > his predictive results will be poor.

> > > >

> > > > For us to give predictions, the most necessary thing is that

we,

> > as

> > > > astrologers, should first be blessed by the PLANETS. If the

> > planets

> > > > are not happy with us, our predictions will go wrong. One may

> > argue

> > > > for 10 yrs on the Internet groups; but nothing happens.

> > Therefore, as

> > > > astrologers it is our PRIME responsibility to seek blessing

from

> > the

> > > > PLANETS to tell the truth about their dispositions in the

charts.

> > Sri

> > > > KN Rao says on occassion, that when we achieve that level of

> > > > connection with the planets, the planets literally speak to

the

> > > > astrologer and tell the story about the native. That is true

> > > > astrology. Not dependence on books alone. If Sauturn is

unhappy

> > with

> > > > us, how can he let us see his influence on the charts? Have

ever

> > > > realized that some very obscure astrologers' predictions would

> > give

> > > > stunning results? Because, he would have been so much blessed

by

> > the

> > > > planets. He who is blessed by the planets is the true

astrologer.

> > We

> > > > can lay down rules for how to get blessed by the planets.

> > > >

> > > > I will continue in next post ...

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Satya Sai Kolachina

> > > >

> > > > <%

40>,

> > " astro desk "

> > > > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Satya,

> > > > >

> > > > > I just saw some of what u said in the chain itself even as I

> > wanted

> > > > to ask u

> > > > > what cud the subject line be.to trace it backwards. I have

been

> > in

> > > > this

> > > > > group for a few days before I started posting saw how the

crowd

> > is

> > > > and

> > > > > ventured on select topics and people who know me in other

> > groups

> > > > know that I

> > > > > am tied up with a construction work at home till Nov end so

> > will

> > > > use my

> > > > > limited experience [since 1980-started my quest in it from

Dec

> > 7,

> > > > 77] to

> > > > > help people more in chart readings than topics that get us

> > nowhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > well we r fortunately close to VEDIC CONCEPTS and not mired

> > into

> > > > selective

> > > > > picking of the English word which is easier than

understanding

> > > > Jyotishya

> > > > > itself and those who have to raise their understanding

levels

> > will

> > > > STILL

> > > > > PICK holes we can't help them as Christ said forgive them

for

> > their

> > > > they

> > > > > know not what they r doing.

> > > > >

> > > > > this i have to say as I tried my best to put the thoughts,

> > conepts

> > > > in simple

> > > > > English with lines not missing the wood for the trees, re-

> > inventing

> > > > the

> > > > > wheel, and avoid possible lines where it can accidentally

also

> > be

> > > > construed

> > > > > as trying to out do others no this subject is too holier

than

> > us

> > > > and we must

> > > > > live within its Maryada. where we can exchange information

we

> > all

> > > > gather in

> > > > > a meaningful way through us many next generation members

must

> > > > benefit not

> > > > > get disgusted and quit.

> > > > >

> > > > > all we can is make better use of the wheel. when people get

> > this

> > > > sure more

> > > > > peace in groups will be there.

> > > > >

> > > > > you are doing a good job so pl keep it going

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes

> > > > >

> > > > > On 7/28/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Prashanth,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your views are welcome and I appreciate you for the same.

> > They are

> > > > > > in agreement with my thoughts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You used the word Daivagna. That is appropriate for one

who

> > gets

> > > > > > that planetary blessing to give correct advice to the

client

> > in

> > > > > > need. It is this planetary blessing on the astrologer

that I

> > > > equate

> > > > > > to the light emanating (or illumination from planets) you

> > > > mentioned.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you can go back in the archive, about a week+ ago, I

> > posted

> > > > some

> > > > > > of my astrological thoughts in about three messages. In

one

> > of

> > > > them

> > > > > > I presented my views on this concept. You don't have to

agree

> > upon

> > > > > > them. But I believe in sharing thoughts across, to

enhance our

> > > > > > strengths and weaken the weaknesses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > Satya S Kolachina

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

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>

> Prashantkumar

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