Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Dear Chandrashekhar ji, Thanks for your mail and your views. no but i was in a doubt that , since Jemini has very much different views. (as wht i have heard / read) that means he feels that parashara principles had bug in it. So he presented his own views .. or he was one of those only who translate Parashara. Warm Regards, Tarun , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Tarun, > > Jaimini does not say whether he was following Parashara or not. It is > assumed that he did. I think he was only instructing his pupils in his > understanding of the Jyotish principles given by the sages. Again it is > thought that he wrote 8 adhyaayas of which only four are available and > of which some opine that the order of shlokas in the last two, may not > be correct. So there could be more to Jaimini than is known to date. > > Chandrashekhar. > > Tarun wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji, > > > > just a small question i had in my mind from many days. > > tht what was need in Jemini's mind, so that he made his own > > principles instead of following parashara blindly. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > The entire science is based on what the sages have said and that, > > > fortunately or unfortunately is in Sanskrit. Even the commentators > > had > > > to comment on Sanskrit shlokas. So Sanskrit and its interpretation > > can > > > not be kept out of any discussion on concepts of Jyotish. > > > > > > This list being primarily for astrologers, it is natural that > > jyotish > > > principles and their interpretation will be discussed here. Not all > > > yogas that are given in the texts can be literally applied in > > modern > > > times. So your valuable suggestion that prediction of a native's > > life > > > for 6 months will reveal what set of interpretation is right and > > what is > > > wrong may not be tenable. > > > > > > However, I agree and have actually said many a times that the > > thread is > > > consuming too much of space on the list. So that it is > > overstretched is > > > the part i agree with. > > > > > > I would like to know of any prediction made by someone through > > what is > > > popularly called as vedic Jyotish without applying any of the > > > astrological principles that were originally given in Sanskrit. I > > was > > > not aware of any such original texts in vernacular language that do > > not > > > refer to any of what is already given in Sanskrit texts. If you > > have > > > some such examples please post them so that jyotish fraternity can > > be > > > benefited by them. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeepji and Chandrasekharji, > > > > > > > > Make it short and sweet. > > > > How to eat the short and sweet and not just theory. > > > > How to apply this short and sweet and not just talks. > > > > How should one search for this short and sweet in the > > > > charts one encounters. > > > > The way to determine when this short and sweet is > > > > available in the natives life- the period-translated > > > > into at least 6 months period-if not less. > > > > > > > > These big talks on shlokas and its interpretations, > > > > and the ambiguity of Sanskrit language > > > > as projected by You both. How to use these big > > > > talks in making small predictions ? > > > > > > > > Either speak the real facts and truth, > > > > or else bow out and close this thread for good. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release Date: > > 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Dear Tarun, If you read Jaimini, you will find that many of his and Parashara's views are similar. he has given something that is not touched upon by Parashara in his discourse to Maitreya. This part is available in the discourse that Jaimini gave his shishyas. So both were talking of jyotish, as envisaged, by 18 Jyotish Pravartakas and gave their personal finding on certain area not touched upon by the other. Chandrashekhar. Tarun wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji, > > Thanks for your mail and your views. > > no but i was in a doubt that , since Jemini has very much different > views. (as wht i have heard / read) > that means he feels that parashara principles had bug in it. So he > presented his own views .. > or he was one of those only who translate Parashara. > > Warm Regards, > > Tarun > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > > > Dear Tarun, > > > > Jaimini does not say whether he was following Parashara or not. It > is > > assumed that he did. I think he was only instructing his pupils in > his > > understanding of the Jyotish principles given by the sages. Again > it is > > thought that he wrote 8 adhyaayas of which only four are available > and > > of which some opine that the order of shlokas in the last two, may > not > > be correct. So there could be more to Jaimini than is known to date. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > Tarun wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji, > > > > > > just a small question i had in my mind from many days. > > > tht what was need in Jemini's mind, so that he made his own > > > principles instead of following parashara blindly. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > The entire science is based on what the sages have said and > that, > > > > fortunately or unfortunately is in Sanskrit. Even the > commentators > > > had > > > > to comment on Sanskrit shlokas. So Sanskrit and its > interpretation > > > can > > > > not be kept out of any discussion on concepts of Jyotish. > > > > > > > > This list being primarily for astrologers, it is natural that > > > jyotish > > > > principles and their interpretation will be discussed here. Not > all > > > > yogas that are given in the texts can be literally applied in > > > modern > > > > times. So your valuable suggestion that prediction of a native's > > > life > > > > for 6 months will reveal what set of interpretation is right and > > > what is > > > > wrong may not be tenable. > > > > > > > > However, I agree and have actually said many a times that the > > > thread is > > > > consuming too much of space on the list. So that it is > > > overstretched is > > > > the part i agree with. > > > > > > > > I would like to know of any prediction made by someone through > > > what is > > > > popularly called as vedic Jyotish without applying any of the > > > > astrological principles that were originally given in Sanskrit. > I > > > was > > > > not aware of any such original texts in vernacular language > that do > > > not > > > > refer to any of what is already given in Sanskrit texts. If you > > > have > > > > some such examples please post them so that jyotish fraternity > can > > > be > > > > benefited by them. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeepji and Chandrasekharji, > > > > > > > > > > Make it short and sweet. > > > > > How to eat the short and sweet and not just theory. > > > > > How to apply this short and sweet and not just talks. > > > > > How should one search for this short and sweet in the > > > > > charts one encounters. > > > > > The way to determine when this short and sweet is > > > > > available in the natives life- the period-translated > > > > > into at least 6 months period-if not less. > > > > > > > > > > These big talks on shlokas and its interpretations, > > > > > and the ambiguity of Sanskrit language > > > > > as projected by You both. How to use these big > > > > > talks in making small predictions ? > > > > > > > > > > Either speak the real facts and truth, > > > > > or else bow out and close this thread for good. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release > Date: > > > 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Dear chandra Shekar ji, Thanks for your enlightening mail. Now i am have clear views about difference in Jemini and Parashara. Thanks and Warm Regards, Tarun , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Tarun, > > If you read Jaimini, you will find that many of his and Parashara's > views are similar. he has given something that is not touched upon by > Parashara in his discourse to Maitreya. This part is available in the > discourse that Jaimini gave his shishyas. So both were talking of > jyotish, as envisaged, by 18 Jyotish Pravartakas and gave their personal > finding on certain area not touched upon by the other. > > Chandrashekhar. > > Tarun wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji, > > > > Thanks for your mail and your views. > > > > no but i was in a doubt that , since Jemini has very much different > > views. (as wht i have heard / read) > > that means he feels that parashara principles had bug in it. So he > > presented his own views .. > > or he was one of those only who translate Parashara. > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tarun, > > > > > > Jaimini does not say whether he was following Parashara or not. It > > is > > > assumed that he did. I think he was only instructing his pupils in > > his > > > understanding of the Jyotish principles given by the sages. Again > > it is > > > thought that he wrote 8 adhyaayas of which only four are available > > and > > > of which some opine that the order of shlokas in the last two, may > > not > > > be correct. So there could be more to Jaimini than is known to date. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > Tarun wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji, > > > > > > > > just a small question i had in my mind from many days. > > > > tht what was need in Jemini's mind, so that he made his own > > > > principles instead of following parashara blindly. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > The entire science is based on what the sages have said and > > that, > > > > > fortunately or unfortunately is in Sanskrit. Even the > > commentators > > > > had > > > > > to comment on Sanskrit shlokas. So Sanskrit and its > > interpretation > > > > can > > > > > not be kept out of any discussion on concepts of Jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > This list being primarily for astrologers, it is natural that > > > > jyotish > > > > > principles and their interpretation will be discussed here. Not > > all > > > > > yogas that are given in the texts can be literally applied in > > > > modern > > > > > times. So your valuable suggestion that prediction of a native's > > > > life > > > > > for 6 months will reveal what set of interpretation is right and > > > > what is > > > > > wrong may not be tenable. > > > > > > > > > > However, I agree and have actually said many a times that the > > > > thread is > > > > > consuming too much of space on the list. So that it is > > > > overstretched is > > > > > the part i agree with. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know of any prediction made by someone through > > > > what is > > > > > popularly called as vedic Jyotish without applying any of the > > > > > astrological principles that were originally given in Sanskrit. > > I > > > > was > > > > > not aware of any such original texts in vernacular language > > that do > > > > not > > > > > refer to any of what is already given in Sanskrit texts. If you > > > > have > > > > > some such examples please post them so that jyotish fraternity > > can > > > > be > > > > > benefited by them. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeepji and Chandrasekharji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Make it short and sweet. > > > > > > How to eat the short and sweet and not just theory. > > > > > > How to apply this short and sweet and not just talks. > > > > > > How should one search for this short and sweet in the > > > > > > charts one encounters. > > > > > > The way to determine when this short and sweet is > > > > > > available in the natives life- the period-translated > > > > > > into at least 6 months period-if not less. > > > > > > > > > > > > These big talks on shlokas and its interpretations, > > > > > > and the ambiguity of Sanskrit language > > > > > > as projected by You both. How to use these big > > > > > > talks in making small predictions ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Either speak the real facts and truth, > > > > > > or else bow out and close this thread for good. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release > > Date: > > > > 7/24/2007 1:50 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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