Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Dear Satya, OK, if this was the one then sure I would have missed it if u did not repeat today, did see similar thoughts in other recent threads. thanks for it. Yes I agree that one has to be blessed else ppl with a lot of intelligence can write s/w for it `which can never happen' a human interface can NEVER be replaced and the human interface that delivers well is one blessed to be useful to people around him/her or who seek his/her readings as this comes from word of mouth, everything that is in this world is from energy and no energy lasts long that is not true. truth will spread like light removing darkness and more people can benefit, falsehood, pretence etc can be like bush fires will die down after causing some damage more to one who set it on. people with true knowledge and gods Grace will survive any ordeal. have we not seen most of the great astrologers are from remote villages or city corners with limited economic comfort, yet reach out to so many far and wide for big and small the big ones may use them and ignore their plight many poorer people will surely give them some charitable support be it food, clothing, care etc as they genuinely from experience know what is suffering, the rich may come for a moments pain or two once past it don't come back to thank these poor astrologer/s leave alone support such knowledgeable people. Saraswathi and Lakshmi don't share the same platform in many homes. just as all the nine planets and 12 houses don't give all good or bad to anyone they r spread out differently for different people in line with ones Karmic Balance sheet for several lives. the more it is on positive side by a vigilant and humane person the better his chances, opportunities, all short cuts may give ppl some short benefit but in later times, lives will pay more for them One must see what their karmic deficit is and work to reduce it whole heartedly no short cuts and try to leave some surplus in it for next life, Best wishes On 7/29/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi wrote: > > Dear Prashant, > > Since my post is two weeks older, it may be difficult to search in > the group. I am just copying it here for your sake. This was > originally addressed to Sri Prafulla. > > Dear Sri Prafulla ! > You said the right way. Traditionally, astrological readings are done > privately, to the person who wanted it, or at the most, in the > presence of his family members like parents or other well-wishers > whereever appropriate. > > We should not forget there are 9 planets and 12 houses in every one's > chart; and only half of them are benefic and the other half are > malefic. The benefic ones deliver the good karma results of past > lives and the malefic ones deliver the bad karma results. No one born > on the earth can escape from these 9 planets and 12 houses. Therefore > it is highly ridiculous to point out at others and say 'Your Sani or > Your Mars...'. When I hear comments from people like this, then I > don't know how to estimate the maturity/immaturity level of the > particular astrologer, and when he/she would realize the underlying > principle of astrology. Sani doesn't belong to Bhaskar or Satya or > Prafulla. > > If an astrologer doesn't recognize these basic-basic principles (I am > not even talking about the core principles of astrology), that person > is unfit as an astrologery. One may argue against my views; I just > welcome those views and ignore them; because truth is truth. ONE WHO > CANNOT UNDERSTNAD THESE SUBTLE BEHAVIORAL REQUIREMENTS IS UNFIT TO BE > AN ASTROLOGER, though he may be well-versed in all the sastras, but > his predictive results will be poor. > > For us to give predictions, the most necessary thing is that we, as > astrologers, should first be blessed by the PLANETS. If the planets > are not happy with us, our predictions will go wrong. One may argue > for 10 yrs on the Internet groups; but nothing happens. Therefore, as > astrologers it is our PRIME responsibility to seek blessing from the > PLANETS to tell the truth about their dispositions in the charts. Sri > KN Rao says on occassion, that when we achieve that level of > connection with the planets, the planets literally speak to the > astrologer and tell the story about the native. That is true > astrology. Not dependence on books alone. If Sauturn is unhappy with > us, how can he let us see his influence on the charts? Have ever > realized that some very obscure astrologers' predictions would give > stunning results? Because, he would have been so much blessed by the > planets. He who is blessed by the planets is the true astrologer. We > can lay down rules for how to get blessed by the planets. > > I will continue in next post ... > > Best regards, > Satya Sai Kolachina > > <%40>, > " astro desk " > <astro.prashantkumar wrote: > > > > Dear Satya, > > > > I just saw some of what u said in the chain itself even as I wanted > to ask u > > what cud the subject line be.to trace it backwards. I have been in > this > > group for a few days before I started posting saw how the crowd is > and > > ventured on select topics and people who know me in other groups > know that I > > am tied up with a construction work at home till Nov end so will > use my > > limited experience [since 1980-started my quest in it from Dec 7, > 77] to > > help people more in chart readings than topics that get us nowhere. > > > > well we r fortunately close to VEDIC CONCEPTS and not mired into > selective > > picking of the English word which is easier than understanding > Jyotishya > > itself and those who have to raise their understanding levels will > STILL > > PICK holes we can't help them as Christ said forgive them for their > they > > know not what they r doing. > > > > this i have to say as I tried my best to put the thoughts, conepts > in simple > > English with lines not missing the wood for the trees, re-inventing > the > > wheel, and avoid possible lines where it can accidentally also be > construed > > as trying to out do others no this subject is too holier than us > and we must > > live within its Maryada. where we can exchange information we all > gather in > > a meaningful way through us many next generation members must > benefit not > > get disgusted and quit. > > > > all we can is make better use of the wheel. when people get this > sure more > > peace in groups will be there. > > > > you are doing a good job so pl keep it going > > > > Best wishes > > > > On 7/28/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashanth, > > > > > > Your views are welcome and I appreciate you for the same. They are > > > in agreement with my thoughts. > > > > > > You used the word Daivagna. That is appropriate for one who gets > > > that planetary blessing to give correct advice to the client in > > > need. It is this planetary blessing on the astrologer that I > equate > > > to the light emanating (or illumination from planets) you > mentioned. > > > > > > If you can go back in the archive, about a week+ ago, I posted > some > > > of my astrological thoughts in about three messages. In one of > them > > > I presented my views on this concept. You don't have to agree upon > > > them. But I believe in sharing thoughts across, to enhance our > > > strengths and weaken the weaknesses. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Satya S Kolachina > > > > > > -- Thank you, Prashantkumar -------- For Consultation charges please write to me -------- G B Prashant Kumar `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street Nandanam Extn, Chennai 600035, INDIA MOBILE 9840051861 TEL 42110983/24340186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Dear Prashant, You are very much right in saying that one has to pay the karmic debt one day or the other; no short cuts. Regards, Satya S Kolachina , " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar wrote: > > Dear Satya, > > OK, if this was the one then sure I would have missed it if u did not repeat > today, did see similar thoughts in other recent threads. thanks for it. > > Yes I agree that one has to be blessed else ppl with a lot of intelligence > can write s/w for it `which can never happen' a human interface can NEVER be > replaced and the human interface that delivers well is one blessed to be > useful to people around him/her or who seek his/her readings as this comes > from word of mouth, everything that is in this world is from energy and no > energy lasts long that is not true. truth will spread like light removing > darkness and more people can benefit, falsehood, pretence etc can be like > bush fires will die down after causing some damage more to one who set it > on. > people with true knowledge and gods Grace will survive any ordeal. > > have we not seen most of the great astrologers are from remote villages or > city corners with limited economic comfort, yet reach out to so many far and > wide for big and small the big ones may use them and ignore their plight > many poorer people will surely give them some charitable support be it food, > clothing, care etc as they genuinely from experience know what is suffering, > the rich may come for a moments pain or two once past it don't come back to > thank these poor astrologer/s leave alone support such knowledgeable > people. Saraswathi and Lakshmi don't share the same platform in many homes. > just as all the nine planets and 12 houses don't give all good or bad to > anyone they r spread out differently for different people in line with ones > Karmic Balance sheet for several lives. the more it is on positive side by a > vigilant and humane person the better his chances, opportunities, all short > cuts may give ppl some short benefit but in later times, lives will pay more > for them One must see what their karmic deficit is and work to reduce it > whole heartedly no short cuts and try to leave some surplus in it for next > life, > > > Best wishes > > > On 7/29/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > Since my post is two weeks older, it may be difficult to search in > > the group. I am just copying it here for your sake. This was > > originally addressed to Sri Prafulla. > > > > Dear Sri Prafulla ! > > You said the right way. Traditionally, astrological readings are done > > privately, to the person who wanted it, or at the most, in the > > presence of his family members like parents or other well-wishers > > whereever appropriate. > > > > We should not forget there are 9 planets and 12 houses in every one's > > chart; and only half of them are benefic and the other half are > > malefic. The benefic ones deliver the good karma results of past > > lives and the malefic ones deliver the bad karma results. No one born > > on the earth can escape from these 9 planets and 12 houses. Therefore > > it is highly ridiculous to point out at others and say 'Your Sani or > > Your Mars...'. When I hear comments from people like this, then I > > don't know how to estimate the maturity/immaturity level of the > > particular astrologer, and when he/she would realize the underlying > > principle of astrology. Sani doesn't belong to Bhaskar or Satya or > > Prafulla. > > > > If an astrologer doesn't recognize these basic-basic principles (I am > > not even talking about the core principles of astrology), that person > > is unfit as an astrologery. One may argue against my views; I just > > welcome those views and ignore them; because truth is truth. ONE WHO > > CANNOT UNDERSTNAD THESE SUBTLE BEHAVIORAL REQUIREMENTS IS UNFIT TO BE > > AN ASTROLOGER, though he may be well-versed in all the sastras, but > > his predictive results will be poor. > > > > For us to give predictions, the most necessary thing is that we, as > > astrologers, should first be blessed by the PLANETS. If the planets > > are not happy with us, our predictions will go wrong. One may argue > > for 10 yrs on the Internet groups; but nothing happens. Therefore, as > > astrologers it is our PRIME responsibility to seek blessing from the > > PLANETS to tell the truth about their dispositions in the charts. Sri > > KN Rao says on occassion, that when we achieve that level of > > connection with the planets, the planets literally speak to the > > astrologer and tell the story about the native. That is true > > astrology. Not dependence on books alone. If Sauturn is unhappy with > > us, how can he let us see his influence on the charts? Have ever > > realized that some very obscure astrologers' predictions would give > > stunning results? Because, he would have been so much blessed by the > > planets. He who is blessed by the planets is the true astrologer. We > > can lay down rules for how to get blessed by the planets. > > > > I will continue in next post ... > > > > Best regards, > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > <% 40>, > > " astro desk " > > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satya, > > > > > > I just saw some of what u said in the chain itself even as I wanted > > to ask u > > > what cud the subject line be.to trace it backwards. I have been in > > this > > > group for a few days before I started posting saw how the crowd is > > and > > > ventured on select topics and people who know me in other groups > > know that I > > > am tied up with a construction work at home till Nov end so will > > use my > > > limited experience [since 1980-started my quest in it from Dec 7, > > 77] to > > > help people more in chart readings than topics that get us nowhere. > > > > > > well we r fortunately close to VEDIC CONCEPTS and not mired into > > selective > > > picking of the English word which is easier than understanding > > Jyotishya > > > itself and those who have to raise their understanding levels will > > STILL > > > PICK holes we can't help them as Christ said forgive them for their > > they > > > know not what they r doing. > > > > > > this i have to say as I tried my best to put the thoughts, conepts > > in simple > > > English with lines not missing the wood for the trees, re- inventing > > the > > > wheel, and avoid possible lines where it can accidentally also be > > construed > > > as trying to out do others no this subject is too holier than us > > and we must > > > live within its Maryada. where we can exchange information we all > > gather in > > > a meaningful way through us many next generation members must > > benefit not > > > get disgusted and quit. > > > > > > all we can is make better use of the wheel. when people get this > > sure more > > > peace in groups will be there. > > > > > > you are doing a good job so pl keep it going > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > On 7/28/07, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashanth, > > > > > > > > Your views are welcome and I appreciate you for the same. They are > > > > in agreement with my thoughts. > > > > > > > > You used the word Daivagna. That is appropriate for one who gets > > > > that planetary blessing to give correct advice to the client in > > > > need. It is this planetary blessing on the astrologer that I > > equate > > > > to the light emanating (or illumination from planets) you > > mentioned. > > > > > > > > If you can go back in the archive, about a week+ ago, I posted > > some > > > > of my astrological thoughts in about three messages. In one of > > them > > > > I presented my views on this concept. You don't have to agree upon > > > > them. But I believe in sharing thoughts across, to enhance our > > > > strengths and weaken the weaknesses. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Satya S Kolachina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thank you, > > Prashantkumar > -------- > For Consultation charges please write to me > -------- > G B Prashant Kumar > `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street > Nandanam Extn, > Chennai 600035, INDIA > MOBILE 9840051861 > TEL 42110983/24340186 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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