Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dear Pradeep ji, As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from Hindi Vocabulary. Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related specially to astrology. I will be glad if you suggest me the same. Regards, Tarun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dear shri Tarun You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages as compared to contemporary interpretations. ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one and forms the basis of my mother toungue as well. Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja etc were the ones first taught to me. Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman having doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis)guiding you or using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology is divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will understand this and wish you all the best. Regds Pradeep , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from Hindi > Vocabulary. > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related specially to > astrology. > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > Regards, > > Tarun > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dear Pradeep ji, Thanks for your mail. No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one has misguided me and no one can...atleast me. Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of all the astrology sholkas. Regards, Tarun , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear shri Tarun > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages as > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one and forms > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman having > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis)guiding you or > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology is > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > understand this and wish you all the best. > > Regds > Pradeep > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from Hindi > > Vocabulary. > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related specially > to > > astrology. > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dear Shri Pradeep ji, Please refrain linking me to anyone on the thread. I have my own identity and if my views matches with anyone on the thread - does not mean that - I team up to do nusance. This is a serious allegation, and I hope - you will exercise appropriate care in future. Each thread is a discussion, and serious questions are asked only to the serious astrologers. So each question or query of mine - has been put in serious mode; and I assume all other astrologers on the thread were quite serious. Your linking any poster's query as nusance speaks wrongly on the characters of the forum members / posters. Regards, Tarun , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > Thanks for your mail. > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one has > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of all the > astrology sholkas. > > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages as > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one and > forms > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman having > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis)guiding you > or > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology is > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from Hindi > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related specially > > to > > > astrology. > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dear shri Tarun If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some of the various meanings. If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is exactly as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But pls remember that within you and me there is something which can read minds. Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can understand sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning people.Kindly do me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be read from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and amshaka are used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at numerous places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my posts won't go through. Regds Pradeep , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > Thanks for your mail. > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one has > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of all the > astrology sholkas. > > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages as > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one and > forms > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman having > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis)guiding you > or > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology is > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from Hindi > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related specially > > to > > > astrology. > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dear Shri Tarun Kha has many meanings -Thus context was mentioned - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some of the various meanings. Now if i had given one meaning ,your ''doubt'' friend will tease accordingly. Now i have got the exact reply as i have expected. I do not have ability to read your mind.But within me and you,there is a ''common''something which can read minds. As you are an honest guy with honest intentions - Kindly cross check with Shri Rath - do we have to read amshas from Rashi chakra as amsha and amshaka are used in similar context.My mails won't go through. If this clarification is got there is no need for further discussions. I am ordinary student.It is not my sanskrit that is important ,but that of the masters. Regds Pradeep , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > Thanks for your mail. > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one has > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of all the > astrology sholkas. > > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages as > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one and > forms > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman having > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis)guiding you > or > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology is > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from Hindi > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related specially > > to > > > astrology. > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Vijaydas, Does Kha also mean zero or blank. Khaveda is 40. Veda is probably referring to number 4 and kha to 0 or emplty space. Satish --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > Dear shri Tarun > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good > luck. > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman > etc are some of > the various meanings. > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this > doubt,as > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your > reply is exactly > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your > mind.But pls > remember that within you and me there is something > which can read > minds. > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether > i can understand > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning > people.Kindly do > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' > has to be read > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha > and amshaka are > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but > at numerous > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for > me as my posts > won't go through. > > Regds > Pradeep > > > , " Tarun " > <tarun.virgo wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say > that no one has > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct > interpretation of all > the > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > , > " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any > knowledge in > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting > Masters and Sages as > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a > common one and > > forms > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request > the gentleman > having > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his > locality. > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals > (mis)guiding > you > > or > > > using you as an instrument for distracting > others engaged in > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their > hands.Astrology is > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure > that you will > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " > <tarun.virgo@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a > letter from > Hindi > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is > related > specially > > > to > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. http://travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dear Pradeep ji, thanks for your kind words. You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt because u really didnt knew anything abt it. But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge of Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on practicality of all. just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better instead of driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas as you donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your incomplete views. or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by charts not by debating shlokas. Regards, Tarun , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear shri Tarun > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some of > the various meanings. > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is exactly > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But pls > remember that within you and me there is something which can read > minds. > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can understand > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning people.Kindly do > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be read > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and amshaka are > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at numerous > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my posts > won't go through. > > Regds > Pradeep > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one has > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of all > the > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages as > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one and > > forms > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman > having > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis)guiding > you > > or > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology is > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from > Hindi > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related > specially > > > to > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dear Satish ji The meaning of zero may not be related to Katapayadi. Space is infact Shoonya and Shoonya infact encompasses all.Thus the meani you have given is good and points to a Bigger Truth. You know the purpose of all these questions.When the question is How many kilos of Rice - 5 kgs of Wheat as answer is of no help. Whether i know sanskrit or not is a different issue.Whether one can answer the question rasied is important.One can ignore questions ,but it will be like closing own eyes and creating darkness. Regds Pradeep , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Vijaydas, > > Does Kha also mean zero or blank. Khaveda is 40. Veda > is probably referring to number 4 and kha to 0 or > emplty space. > > Satish > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good > > luck. > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman > > etc are some of > > the various meanings. > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this > > doubt,as > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your > > reply is exactly > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your > > mind.But pls > > remember that within you and me there is something > > which can read > > minds. > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether > > i can understand > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning > > people.Kindly do > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' > > has to be read > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha > > and amshaka are > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but > > at numerous > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for > > me as my posts > > won't go through. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Tarun " > > <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say > > that no one has > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct > > interpretation of all > > the > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > , > > " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any > > knowledge in > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting > > Masters and Sages as > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a > > common one and > > > forms > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request > > the gentleman > > having > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his > > locality. > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals > > (mis)guiding > > you > > > or > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting > > others engaged in > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their > > hands.Astrology is > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure > > that you will > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " > > <tarun.virgo@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a > > letter from > > Hindi > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is > > related > > specially > > > > to > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Travel. > http://travel./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dear Shri Tarun Thanks for your views. I do not know anything and i accept it.The day i consider myself a Guru,my vehicle will go in the wrong direction as you have rightly said. As long as Lord Shankara guides me my vehicle will go in the right direction. You will get practical examples in my paper. You can only ignore my vaid questions as the ones who are guiding you is doing.But how long? From day 1 ,i knew your intention and hence the delay in touching your chart. If you think ,what you are doing is right,then carry on. Regds Pradeep , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > thanks for your kind words. > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt because u > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge of > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on practicality of all. > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better instead of > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas as you > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your > incomplete views. > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by charts not > by debating shlokas. > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some of > > the various meanings. > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is exactly > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But pls > > remember that within you and me there is something which can read > > minds. > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can > understand > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning people.Kindly do > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be read > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and amshaka are > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at numerous > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my posts > > won't go through. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one > has > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of all > > the > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages as > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one and > > > forms > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman > > having > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis)guiding > > you > > > or > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology is > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from > > Hindi > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related > > specially > > > > to > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Tarunji I am keen to get your input on the charts recently posted (child birth problem/business problems). I have seldom seen your interpretations on any chart either here or JR, but you do seem to challenge with a degree of petulance those who are working hard to progress/help other progress knowledge in jyotish. Please do share the techniques and methods that you are using for the benefit of all. Thanks. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > thanks for your kind words. > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt because u > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge of > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on practicality of all. > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better instead of > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas as you > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your > incomplete views. > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by charts not > by debating shlokas. > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some of > > the various meanings. > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is exactly > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But pls > > remember that within you and me there is something which can read > > minds. > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can > understand > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning people.Kindly do > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be read > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and amshaka are > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at numerous > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my posts > > won't go through. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one > has > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of all > > the > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages as > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one and > > > forms > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman > > having > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis)guiding > > you > > > or > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology is > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from > > Hindi > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related > > specially > > > > to > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dear Atmagnanji, This reminds me that you had requested me too, to put my inputs on the child birth problems-chart, and I already have saved the charts in my software the same minute after reading your mail, but then i did not read further for 2 reasons- 1) His time of birth was not clear whether previous date or next date. 2) He did not respond to one members reply, though this member must have spent some time on these charts.I think it was you who replied this native.Not sure. Cant go back through hundred mails now. But I enjoy to read such genuine problems. They are a challenge. regards, Bhaskar. , " atma_gnan " <atma_gnan wrote: > > Tarunji > > I am keen to get your input on the charts recently posted (child > birth problem/business problems). > > I have seldom seen your interpretations on any chart either here or > JR, but you do seem to challenge with a degree of petulance those who > are working hard to progress/help other progress knowledge in jyotish. > > Please do share the techniques and methods that you are using for the > benefit of all. > > Thanks. > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > thanks for your kind words. > > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt because u > > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge of > > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. > > > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on practicality of > all. > > > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better instead of > > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas as you > > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your > > incomplete views. > > > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by charts > not > > by debating shlokas. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some of > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is > exactly > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But pls > > > remember that within you and me there is something which can read > > > minds. > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can > > understand > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning people.Kindly > do > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be read > > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and amshaka > are > > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at numerous > > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my posts > > > won't go through. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one > > has > > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of > all > > > the > > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages > as > > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one > and > > > > forms > > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman > > > having > > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis)guiding > > > you > > > > or > > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology > is > > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from > > > Hindi > > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related > > > specially > > > > > to > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Bhaskarji You made an excellent effort on this chart using the KP method, and it would have been good to get an analysis using the RTA (tulya- amasa) approach. If the original poster of the query is still reading, I hope he posts some feedback. By the way I recall you mentioning in a recent post that you have worked in your fathers office/business for 28 years. This ties in well with Sun-Mercury in 11th and confirms the replaces of the elder sibling interpretation with father. For this reason, amongst others, I feel your chart is correct even without resorting to bhava chalit. Wil be reading the list on and off for next 3 weeks or so due to exams/job commitments, so will talk then. Take care , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Atmagnanji, > > This reminds me that you had requested me too, to put > my inputs on the child birth problems-chart, and I already > have saved the charts in my software the same minute after > reading your mail, but then i did not read further > for 2 reasons- > 1) His time of birth was not clear whether previous date > or next date. > 2) He did not respond to one members reply, though > this member must have spent some time on > these charts.I think it was you who replied this > native.Not sure. Cant go back through > hundred mails now. > > But I enjoy to read such genuine problems. > They are a challenge. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , " atma_gnan " <atma_gnan@> wrote: > > > > Tarunji > > > > I am keen to get your input on the charts recently posted (child > > birth problem/business problems). > > > > I have seldom seen your interpretations on any chart either here or > > JR, but you do seem to challenge with a degree of petulance those who > > are working hard to progress/help other progress knowledge in jyotish. > > > > Please do share the techniques and methods that you are using for the > > benefit of all. > > > > Thanks. > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > thanks for your kind words. > > > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt because u > > > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > > > > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge of > > > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. > > > > > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on practicality of > > all. > > > > > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better instead of > > > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas as you > > > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > > > > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your > > > incomplete views. > > > > > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by charts > > not > > > by debating shlokas. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some of > > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is > > exactly > > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But pls > > > > remember that within you and me there is something which can read > > > > minds. > > > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can > > > understand > > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning people.Kindly > > do > > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be read > > > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and amshaka > > are > > > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at numerous > > > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my posts > > > > won't go through. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one > > > has > > > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of > > all > > > > the > > > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages > > as > > > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one > > and > > > > > forms > > > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman > > > > having > > > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis) guiding > > > > you > > > > > or > > > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology > > is > > > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from > > > > Hindi > > > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related > > > > specially > > > > > > to > > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Tarun ji, Shri Pradeep has his own conviction for his model, and we must respect his convictions / knowledge base - irrespective of popular understanding of D charts. Though I do not agree to Shri Pradeep's view on D charts and am of the firm opinion that such unsubstantiated propogation / presentation on the fallacies of other authors opinion is not a prudent approach; but in my opinion - we must wait for his publishing schedule of his white paper. Like many other forum members, I am also keenly waiting for his case studies on fallacies of generally known D chart interpretation model. Let us appreciate that - such publishing often has time constraints, for professional preoccupations. Trust you in me - such exercise is never futile and we all forum members will be gaining only, from such research papers. regards / Prafulla , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > thanks for your kind words. > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt because u > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge of > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on practicality of all. > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better instead of > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas as you > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your > incomplete views. > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by charts not > by debating shlokas. > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some of > > the various meanings. > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is exactly > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But pls > > remember that within you and me there is something which can read > > minds. > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can > understand > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning people.Kindly do > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be read > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and amshaka are > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at numerous > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my posts > > won't go through. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one > has > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of all > > the > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages as > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one and > > > forms > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman > > having > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis)guiding > > you > > > or > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology is > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from > > Hindi > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related > > specially > > > > to > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Thanks Vijaydas, One does not need to know Sanskrit to think logically. You are thinking logically and thats why questions arise. Divisions taken as charts is probably the biggest myth propogated. Where that is really so or not will have to wait. Anyway search for what exactly the sages meant continues. As you have said before " Earth is round, but church is strong " It will be a difficult task, but I beleive most competent and learned astrologers use mostly the rashi chart from lagna and from moon. The divisions is a secondary/tertiary factor. Those who have posted twin charts, or similar charts as a challenge to use divisions as charts, would they change prediction of the a chart drastically if the other chart( Of the other twin or other native) was not presented to them ? I strongly doubt it. Satish --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > Dear Satish ji > > The meaning of zero may not be related to > Katapayadi. > Space is infact Shoonya and Shoonya infact > encompasses all.Thus the > meani you have given is good and points to a Bigger > Truth. > > You know the purpose of all these questions.When the > question is How > many kilos of Rice - 5 kgs of Wheat as answer is of > no help. > > Whether i know sanskrit or not is a different > issue.Whether one can > answer the question rasied is important.One can > ignore questions ,but > it will be like closing own eyes and creating > darkness. > > Regds > Pradeep > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > > Vijaydas, > > > > Does Kha also mean zero or blank. Khaveda is 40. > Veda > > is probably referring to number 4 and kha to 0 or > > emplty space. > > > > Satish > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > > wrote: > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good > > > luck. > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - > Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman > > > etc are some of > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had > this > > > doubt,as > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now > your > > > reply is exactly > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the > context. > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read > your > > > mind.But pls > > > remember that within you and me there is > something > > > which can read > > > minds. > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of > whether > > > i can understand > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man > questioning > > > people.Kindly do > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that > ''KA'' > > > has to be read > > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that > amsha > > > and amshaka are > > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one > place,but > > > at numerous > > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification > for > > > me as my posts > > > won't go through. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " > > > <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will > say > > > that no one has > > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct > > > interpretation of all > > > the > > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have > any > > > knowledge in > > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting > > > Masters and Sages as > > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi > vocabulary,but a > > > common one and > > > > forms > > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls > request > > > the gentleman > > > having > > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near > his > > > locality. > > > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many > individuals > > > (mis)guiding > > > you > > > > or > > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting > > > others engaged in > > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their > > > hands.Astrology is > > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am > sure > > > that you will > > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " > > > <tarun.virgo@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of > sanskrit, > > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha > " a > > > letter from > > > Hindi > > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as > it is > > > related > > > specially > > > > > to > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Boardwalk for $500? 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Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Tarun ji, Further to my note: I must confess that - I missed Shri Pradeep's earlier note - where he accused you of writing on someone's behalf. and After reading the thread - I realized that - you did request him to not to make such remarks..but he continued to do so in his further mails. So perhaps - your reaction was provoked one from his comments. But in all fairness - I request you to respect Shri Pradeep's conviction and knowledge base. Let me narrate you an interesting incident. In early 90's I happen to visit a traditionalist astrologer. and as a very enthusiast jyotish student - I wanted to discuss my chart and we started discussing transits. In the course of discussions and observations (which continued over few years through my frequent visits) - I realized he was neither using lagna nor moon sign for transit working. Being a young boy - I tried to argue on many occasions with him for transit based predictions, he started probing me as to how will I interpret; and on each occasion - my interpretation (though in line with popular reading model) was proven wrong. In one reference, he did hint that all these transit technique are wrong and all modern explanation to transit interpretation do not hold correct. Well - what should be the right reading model, he did not share with me - but he used to predict simply from bhava chalit, D charts and transit (not even dasa reference or prasna reference). I tried many techniques including nadi progression, sudershan chakra driven interpretation and so on - but could never trace the basis of his transit reading model. But he did mention to me once (perhaps in my last visit to him) that bhava reading and transit bhava reading are two different issues (implying - that for transit, the D1 chart has to be reconstructed differently). Being parampara jyotishi, perhaps he did not want to disclose his technique and I also could not dare to ask him the same. I sincerely doubt that - he ever read so many books or commentaries, but trust me - I did not observe his prediction ever failing. Now what do we do with shlokas, which refer us to those transit meanings? can we nail down a event accurately with just bhava chalit chart, D charts and transit? and that too in less than a minute? But that was his conviction and knowledge base - and may not coincide with what we have read / heard / experimented. And most interestingly - his reasonings of event (purely on transit) was quite upside down from what we use. But yes - on each occasion - he proved me by predictions and the fallacies of transit model also. This particular experience influenced me so much that - I stopped applying dasha in my predictive approach; and I am still struggling in my dasa phal interpretation. Anyway - what I wanted to convey that - many a times, we all may be carrying a wrong method or conviction; but we live with it - until we get to learn the improvized method. and Trust me, all jyotishi - at all stage, continue to do it - until they are liberated from this birth. I hope Tarun ji, You are not offended by my long mail. Trust me - this is not jyotish journalism, but I have indeed shared a very thought provoking technique or atleast one step towards it. regards / Prafulla , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarun ji, > > Shri Pradeep has his own conviction for his model, and we must respect > his convictions / knowledge base - irrespective of popular > understanding of D charts. > > Though I do not agree to Shri Pradeep's view on D charts and am of the > firm opinion that such unsubstantiated propogation / presentation on > the fallacies of other authors opinion is not a prudent approach; but > in my opinion - we must wait for his publishing schedule of his white > paper. Like many other forum members, I am also keenly waiting for > his case studies on fallacies of generally known D chart > interpretation model. Let us appreciate that - such publishing often > has time constraints, for professional preoccupations. > > Trust you in me - such exercise is never futile and we all forum > members will be gaining only, from such research papers. > > regards / Prafulla > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > thanks for your kind words. > > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt because u > > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge of > > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. > > > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on practicality of all. > > > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better instead of > > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas as you > > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your > > incomplete views. > > > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by charts not > > by debating shlokas. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some of > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is exactly > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But pls > > > remember that within you and me there is something which can read > > > minds. > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can > > understand > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning people.Kindly do > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be read > > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and amshaka are > > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at numerous > > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my posts > > > won't go through. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one > > has > > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of all > > > the > > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages as > > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one and > > > > forms > > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman > > > having > > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis)guiding > > > you > > > > or > > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology is > > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from > > > Hindi > > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related > > > specially > > > > > to > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Satish ji Sorry for barging into your conversation. Well - logic / reasoning is important area for any subject including jyotish; but predictive jyotish is much beyond logic and rationale. To draw a line - we must know a beginning point and ending point (or say two points) - but in jyotish we neither know begining point (i.e. birth) nor ending point (say death) - so all those inferences can not be entirely logical one. Why only 7 or 9 planets - why not so many other planets? why only special aspects of three or five planets - why not for all planets? and so on..there is no rationale, but inferences. And these inferences are not created / invented by us - but we are trying to interpret (or infer) from available texts / methods. Just notice the successful traditionalist's charts (predictors not authors) - their mercury is always less powerful than their venus / rahu etc. This has been my observation so far. Just look at entire jyotish from another angle - or logical jyotish explanation of a very simple query - " why a son of Rishi is always a Rishi? " I was asked this to explain logically (from jyotish perspective) in one of my philosophy session with a yogi.. I am still searching for the answer. Please do share with me - if you find a logical answer of it. I will be truly grateful to you. regards / Prafulla , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Thanks Vijaydas, > > One does not need to know Sanskrit to think logically. > You are thinking logically and thats why questions > arise. Divisions taken as charts is probably the > biggest myth propogated. Where that is really so or > not will have to wait. Anyway search for what exactly > the sages meant continues. As you have said before " > Earth is round, but church is strong " > > It will be a difficult task, but I beleive most > competent and learned astrologers use mostly the rashi > chart from lagna and from moon. The divisions is a > secondary/tertiary factor. > > Those who have posted twin charts, or similar charts > as a challenge to use divisions as charts, would they > change prediction of the a chart drastically if the > other chart( Of the other twin or other native) was > not presented to them ? I strongly doubt it. > > Satish > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: > > > Dear Satish ji > > > > The meaning of zero may not be related to > > Katapayadi. > > Space is infact Shoonya and Shoonya infact > > encompasses all.Thus the > > meani you have given is good and points to a Bigger > > Truth. > > > > You know the purpose of all these questions.When the > > question is How > > many kilos of Rice - 5 kgs of Wheat as answer is of > > no help. > > > > Whether i know sanskrit or not is a different > > issue.Whether one can > > answer the question rasied is important.One can > > ignore questions ,but > > it will be like closing own eyes and creating > > darkness. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Vijaydas, > > > > > > Does Kha also mean zero or blank. Khaveda is 40. > > Veda > > > is probably referring to number 4 and kha to 0 or > > > emplty space. > > > > > > Satish > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good > > > > luck. > > > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - > > Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman > > > > etc are some of > > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had > > this > > > > doubt,as > > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now > > your > > > > reply is exactly > > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the > > context. > > > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read > > your > > > > mind.But pls > > > > remember that within you and me there is > > something > > > > which can read > > > > minds. > > > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of > > whether > > > > i can understand > > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man > > questioning > > > > people.Kindly do > > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that > > ''KA'' > > > > has to be read > > > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that > > amsha > > > > and amshaka are > > > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one > > place,but > > > > at numerous > > > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification > > for > > > > me as my posts > > > > won't go through. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " > > > > <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will > > say > > > > that no one has > > > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct > > > > interpretation of all > > > > the > > > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have > > any > > > > knowledge in > > > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting > > > > Masters and Sages as > > > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi > > vocabulary,but a > > > > common one and > > > > > forms > > > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls > > request > > > > the gentleman > > > > having > > > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near > > his > > > > locality. > > > > > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many > > individuals > > > > (mis)guiding > > > > you > > > > > or > > > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting > > > > others engaged in > > > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their > > > > hands.Astrology is > > > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am > > sure > > > > that you will > > > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " > > > > <tarun.virgo@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of > > sanskrit, > > > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha > > " a > > > > letter from > > > > Hindi > > > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as > > it is > > > > related > > > > specially > > > > > > to > > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Boardwalk for $500? 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Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Prafulla, What a nice experience you have shared. Thanks for that. Prafulla, do you by any chance know the degrees of the house that he had casted using the bhav chalit, what house system did he use. As you mentioned that the astrologer gentleman, was a parampara jyotish, did he share with you the degree of each house or say starting degrees ? I really hope that you have written that down somewhere as that will also be a vital clue which can be kept alive. Maybe someone in this world might have additional knowledge and can put 2 and 2 together. I hope everyone shares such personal experiences which are genuine. Out of curiosity, was this the same gentleman who predicted that your mars must be retro looking at your physical features? Also during your course of your meetings with this gentleman, did u know the ayanamsa he used? Sorry for asking many questions. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarun ji, > > Further to my note: > > I must confess that - I missed Shri Pradeep's earlier note - where he > accused you of writing on someone's behalf. and After reading the > thread - I realized that - you did request him to not to make such > remarks..but he continued to do so in his further mails. So perhaps - > your reaction was provoked one from his comments. But in all fairness > - I request you to respect Shri Pradeep's conviction and knowledge base. > > Let me narrate you an interesting incident. In early 90's I happen to > visit a traditionalist astrologer. and as a very enthusiast jyotish > student - I wanted to discuss my chart and we started discussing > transits. In the course of discussions and observations (which > continued over few years through my frequent visits) - I realized he > was neither using lagna nor moon sign for transit working. Being a > young boy - I tried to argue on many occasions with him for transit > based predictions, he started probing me as to how will I interpret; > and on each occasion - my interpretation (though in line with popular > reading model) was proven wrong. In one reference, he did hint that > all these transit technique are wrong and all modern explanation to > transit interpretation do not hold correct. Well - what should be the > right reading model, he did not share with me - but he used to predict > simply from bhava chalit, D charts and transit (not even dasa > reference or prasna reference). I tried many techniques including nadi > progression, sudershan chakra driven interpretation and so on - but > could never trace the basis of his transit reading model. But he did > mention to me once (perhaps in my last visit to him) that bhava > reading and transit bhava reading are two different issues (implying - > that for transit, the D1 chart has to be reconstructed differently). > Being parampara jyotishi, perhaps he did not want to disclose his > technique and I also could not dare to ask him the same. I sincerely > doubt that - he ever read so many books or commentaries, but trust me > - I did not observe his prediction ever failing. Now what do we do > with shlokas, which refer us to those transit meanings? can we nail > down a event accurately with just bhava chalit chart, D charts and > transit? and that too in less than a minute? But that was his > conviction and knowledge base - and may not coincide with what we have > read / heard / experimented. And most interestingly - his reasonings > of event (purely on transit) was quite upside down from what we use. > But yes - on each occasion - he proved me by predictions and the > fallacies of transit model also. This particular experience influenced > me so much that - I stopped applying dasha in my predictive approach; > and I am still struggling in my dasa phal interpretation. > > Anyway - what I wanted to convey that - many a times, we all may be > carrying a wrong method or conviction; but we live with it - until we > get to learn the improvized method. and Trust me, all jyotishi - at > all stage, continue to do it - until they are liberated from this birth. > > I hope Tarun ji, You are not offended by my long mail. Trust me - this > is not jyotish journalism, but I have indeed shared a very thought > provoking technique or atleast one step towards it. > > regards / Prafulla > > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Tarun ji, > > > > Shri Pradeep has his own conviction for his model, and we must respect > > his convictions / knowledge base - irrespective of popular > > understanding of D charts. > > > > Though I do not agree to Shri Pradeep's view on D charts and am of the > > firm opinion that such unsubstantiated propogation / presentation on > > the fallacies of other authors opinion is not a prudent approach; but > > in my opinion - we must wait for his publishing schedule of his white > > paper. Like many other forum members, I am also keenly waiting for > > his case studies on fallacies of generally known D chart > > interpretation model. Let us appreciate that - such publishing often > > has time constraints, for professional preoccupations. > > > > Trust you in me - such exercise is never futile and we all forum > > members will be gaining only, from such research papers. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > thanks for your kind words. > > > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt because u > > > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > > > > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge of > > > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. > > > > > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on practicality of all. > > > > > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better instead of > > > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas as you > > > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > > > > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your > > > incomplete views. > > > > > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by charts not > > > by debating shlokas. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some of > > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is exactly > > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But pls > > > > remember that within you and me there is something which can read > > > > minds. > > > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can > > > understand > > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning people.Kindly do > > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be read > > > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and amshaka are > > > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at numerous > > > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my posts > > > > won't go through. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one > > > has > > > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of all > > > > the > > > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages as > > > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one and > > > > > forms > > > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman > > > > having > > > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis)guiding > > > > you > > > > > or > > > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology is > > > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from > > > > Hindi > > > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related > > > > specially > > > > > > to > > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Prafulla, Thanks for sharing this. What I believe is, once the basics are learnt, one will gain more insight into astrology by reading and analysing more and more charts than reading and understanding more and more shlokas. This is my personal experience. Regards, Krishna --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > Dear Tarun ji, > > Further to my note: > > I must confess that - I missed Shri Pradeep's earlier note - > where he > accused you of writing on someone's behalf. and After reading > the > thread - I realized that - you did request him to not to make > such > remarks..but he continued to do so in his further mails. So > perhaps - > your reaction was provoked one from his comments. But in all > fairness > - I request you to respect Shri Pradeep's conviction and > knowledge base. > > Let me narrate you an interesting incident. In early 90's I > happen to > visit a traditionalist astrologer. and as a very enthusiast > jyotish > student - I wanted to discuss my chart and we started > discussing > transits. In the course of discussions and observations (which > continued over few years through my frequent visits) - I > realized he > was neither using lagna nor moon sign for transit working. > Being a > young boy - I tried to argue on many occasions with him for > transit > based predictions, he started probing me as to how will I > interpret; > and on each occasion - my interpretation (though in line with > popular > reading model) was proven wrong. In one reference, he did hint > that > all these transit technique are wrong and all modern > explanation to > transit interpretation do not hold correct. Well - what should > be the > right reading model, he did not share with me - but he used to > predict > simply from bhava chalit, D charts and transit (not even dasa > reference or prasna reference). I tried many techniques > including nadi > progression, sudershan chakra driven interpretation and so on > - but > could never trace the basis of his transit reading model. But > he did > mention to me once (perhaps in my last visit to him) that > bhava > reading and transit bhava reading are two different issues > (implying - > that for transit, the D1 chart has to be reconstructed > differently). > Being parampara jyotishi, perhaps he did not want to disclose > his > technique and I also could not dare to ask him the same. I > sincerely > doubt that - he ever read so many books or commentaries, but > trust me > - I did not observe his prediction ever failing. Now what do > we do > with shlokas, which refer us to those transit meanings? can we > nail > down a event accurately with just bhava chalit chart, D charts > and > transit? and that too in less than a minute? But that was his > conviction and knowledge base - and may not coincide with what > we have > read / heard / experimented. And most interestingly - his > reasonings > of event (purely on transit) was quite upside down from what > we use. > But yes - on each occasion - he proved me by predictions and > the > fallacies of transit model also. This particular experience > influenced > me so much that - I stopped applying dasha in my predictive > approach; > and I am still struggling in my dasa phal interpretation. > > Anyway - what I wanted to convey that - many a times, we all > may be > carrying a wrong method or conviction; but we live with it - > until we > get to learn the improvized method. and Trust me, all jyotishi > - at > all stage, continue to do it - until they are liberated from > this birth. > > I hope Tarun ji, You are not offended by my long mail. Trust > me - this > is not jyotish journalism, but I have indeed shared a very > thought > provoking technique or atleast one step towards it. > > regards / Prafulla > > , " Prafulla Gang " > <jyotish wrote: > > > > Dear Tarun ji, > > > > Shri Pradeep has his own conviction for his model, and we > must respect > > his convictions / knowledge base - irrespective of popular > > understanding of D charts. > > > > Though I do not agree to Shri Pradeep's view on D charts and > am of the > > firm opinion that such unsubstantiated propogation / > presentation on > > the fallacies of other authors opinion is not a prudent > approach; but > > in my opinion - we must wait for his publishing schedule of > his white > > paper. Like many other forum members, I am also keenly > waiting for > > his case studies on fallacies of generally known D chart > > interpretation model. Let us appreciate that - such > publishing often > > has time constraints, for professional preoccupations. > > > > Trust you in me - such exercise is never futile and we all > forum > > members will be gaining only, from such research papers. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > thanks for your kind words. > > > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt > because u > > > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > > > > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any > knowledge of > > > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters > wrong. > > > > > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on > practicality of all. > > > > > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better > instead of > > > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting > shlokas as you > > > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > > > > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by > your > > > incomplete views. > > > > > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by > charts not > > > by debating shlokas. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc > are some of > > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this > doubt,as > > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply > is exactly > > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your > mind.But pls > > > > remember that within you and me there is something which > can read > > > > minds. > > > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i > can > > > understand > > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning > people.Kindly do > > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has > to be read > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____Ready for the edge of your seat? 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Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Pradeep ji, First of all i dont know to laugh or to feel sad, ....but if u still think that i have someone above me, then please do consider sharing the names with me/group so that I may also know them. i am seeing from last one month that you are just posting shlokas..........so it make me to ask you abt sanksrit words. and i thought that asking any sanskrit meaning from such a sanskrit literate person was not a wrong attitude. As sanskrit has the biggest vocabulary in world, and even a single " . " dot can chagne the meaning of phrase. But you have purposefully trying to connect me to " someone " . Please share more informaation about this invisible " somneone " . Your enlightened mail will help me adding someone above me? I think - you will oblige me !! and for your relaxation...I always carry my own identity, and do not consider forum as fighting ground. You must appreciate that, I did make reasonable request to you. My asking you question should not be bugging you? I again please you to reveal the hidden names in your mind who are behind me, or donot write such things for me. As Bhagwan Shiva is above me :-) Regards, tarun , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Shri Tarun > > Thanks for your views. > I do not know anything and i accept it.The day i consider myself a > Guru,my vehicle will go in the wrong direction as you have rightly > said. > > As long as Lord Shankara guides me my vehicle will go in the right > direction. > > You will get practical examples in my paper. > > You can only ignore my vaid questions as the ones who are guiding you > is doing.But how long? > > From day 1 ,i knew your intention and hence the delay in touching > your chart. > If you think ,what you are doing is right,then carry on. > > Regds > Pradeep > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > thanks for your kind words. > > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt because u > > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge of > > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. > > > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on practicality of > all. > > > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better instead of > > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas as you > > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your > > incomplete views. > > > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by charts > not > > by debating shlokas. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some of > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is > exactly > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But pls > > > remember that within you and me there is something which can read > > > minds. > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can > > understand > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning people.Kindly > do > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be read > > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and amshaka > are > > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at numerous > > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my posts > > > won't go through. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one > > has > > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of > all > > > the > > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages > as > > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one > and > > > > forms > > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman > > > having > > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis) guiding > > > you > > > > or > > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology > is > > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from > > > Hindi > > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related > > > specially > > > > > to > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Shri Tarun Good attemtpt again.Good luck. Let us wait for the paper.Will you be kind enough to give me that much time.I have attempted many quizzes and have analyzed many charts in the list,though from within my own limitations. Shlokas are a must for my debates.The purpose of this debate is not to check if some techniques works for someone. The purpose is to check whether those are conforming to rules set by sages or not.Those who want to invent new are free to do so.My intentions are clear. Pls kindly do not disturb me. Regds Pradeep , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > First of all i dont know to laugh or to feel sad, ....but if u still > think that i have someone above me, then please do consider sharing > the names with me/group so that I may also know them. > > i am seeing from last one month that you are just posting > shlokas..........so it make me to ask you abt sanksrit words. > and i thought that asking any sanskrit meaning from such a sanskrit > literate person was not a wrong attitude. > > As sanskrit has the biggest vocabulary in world, and even a > single " . " dot can chagne the meaning of phrase. > > > But you have purposefully trying to connect me to " someone " . Please > share more informaation about this invisible " somneone " . Your > enlightened mail will help me adding someone above me? I think - you > will oblige me !! > > and for your relaxation...I always carry my own identity, and do not > consider forum as fighting ground. You must appreciate that, I did > make reasonable request to you. My asking you question should not be > bugging you? > > I again please you to reveal the hidden names in your mind who are > behind me, or donot write such things for me. > > > As Bhagwan Shiva is above me :-) > > Regards, > > tarun > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Tarun > > > > Thanks for your views. > > I do not know anything and i accept it.The day i consider myself a > > Guru,my vehicle will go in the wrong direction as you have rightly > > said. > > > > As long as Lord Shankara guides me my vehicle will go in the right > > direction. > > > > You will get practical examples in my paper. > > > > You can only ignore my vaid questions as the ones who are guiding > you > > is doing.But how long? > > > > From day 1 ,i knew your intention and hence the delay in touching > > your chart. > > If you think ,what you are doing is right,then carry on. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > thanks for your kind words. > > > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt because > u > > > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > > > > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge of > > > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. > > > > > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on practicality of > > all. > > > > > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better instead of > > > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas as > you > > > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > > > > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your > > > incomplete views. > > > > > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by charts > > not > > > by debating shlokas. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some > of > > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is > > exactly > > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But pls > > > > remember that within you and me there is something which can > read > > > > minds. > > > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can > > > understand > > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning > people.Kindly > > do > > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be > read > > > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and amshaka > > are > > > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at > numerous > > > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my > posts > > > > won't go through. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no > one > > > has > > > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of > > all > > > > the > > > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge > in > > > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and > Sages > > as > > > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one > > and > > > > > forms > > > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the > gentleman > > > > having > > > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis) > guiding > > > > you > > > > > or > > > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged > in > > > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology > > is > > > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter > from > > > > Hindi > > > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related > > > > specially > > > > > > to > > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Prafulla ji Thanks for sharing your experiences. I would say if basics are not set right,we can never be right.Your village jyotishi knows his basics right.If he had mugged up some shlokas,like navamsha tulya etc are start applying,then he would not have earned your respect. He knows what is navamsha,how it is related to rashi and in the particular chart how it is relating to various bhavas.Hence he could easily reconstruct various charts within Rashi.The whole purpose of my debate is for this alone. If our foundations are strong -we can errect any number of floors.Thus it might be worth checking if they are so or not.I have a good collection of charts with authentic info and observing life events,w.r to dasha/antardasha and transits is my way of learning. Shlokas are needed in this debate?why?There is a glimmer of hope that we would listen to what the sages have said.As my interpretations have no value,i have quoted many giants coming from the uncorrupted era. Regds Pradeep , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarun ji, > > Further to my note: > > I must confess that - I missed Shri Pradeep's earlier note - where he > accused you of writing on someone's behalf. and After reading the > thread - I realized that - you did request him to not to make such > remarks..but he continued to do so in his further mails. So perhaps - > your reaction was provoked one from his comments. But in all fairness > - I request you to respect Shri Pradeep's conviction and knowledge base. > > Let me narrate you an interesting incident. In early 90's I happen to > visit a traditionalist astrologer. and as a very enthusiast jyotish > student - I wanted to discuss my chart and we started discussing > transits. In the course of discussions and observations (which > continued over few years through my frequent visits) - I realized he > was neither using lagna nor moon sign for transit working. Being a > young boy - I tried to argue on many occasions with him for transit > based predictions, he started probing me as to how will I interpret; > and on each occasion - my interpretation (though in line with popular > reading model) was proven wrong. In one reference, he did hint that > all these transit technique are wrong and all modern explanation to > transit interpretation do not hold correct. Well - what should be the > right reading model, he did not share with me - but he used to predict > simply from bhava chalit, D charts and transit (not even dasa > reference or prasna reference). I tried many techniques including nadi > progression, sudershan chakra driven interpretation and so on - but > could never trace the basis of his transit reading model. But he did > mention to me once (perhaps in my last visit to him) that bhava > reading and transit bhava reading are two different issues (implying - > that for transit, the D1 chart has to be reconstructed differently). > Being parampara jyotishi, perhaps he did not want to disclose his > technique and I also could not dare to ask him the same. I sincerely > doubt that - he ever read so many books or commentaries, but trust me > - I did not observe his prediction ever failing. Now what do we do > with shlokas, which refer us to those transit meanings? can we nail > down a event accurately with just bhava chalit chart, D charts and > transit? and that too in less than a minute? But that was his > conviction and knowledge base - and may not coincide with what we have > read / heard / experimented. And most interestingly - his reasonings > of event (purely on transit) was quite upside down from what we use. > But yes - on each occasion - he proved me by predictions and the > fallacies of transit model also. This particular experience influenced > me so much that - I stopped applying dasha in my predictive approach; > and I am still struggling in my dasa phal interpretation. > > Anyway - what I wanted to convey that - many a times, we all may be > carrying a wrong method or conviction; but we live with it - until we > get to learn the improvized method. and Trust me, all jyotishi - at > all stage, continue to do it - until they are liberated from this birth. > > I hope Tarun ji, You are not offended by my long mail. Trust me - this > is not jyotish journalism, but I have indeed shared a very thought > provoking technique or atleast one step towards it. > > regards / Prafulla > > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Tarun ji, > > > > Shri Pradeep has his own conviction for his model, and we must respect > > his convictions / knowledge base - irrespective of popular > > understanding of D charts. > > > > Though I do not agree to Shri Pradeep's view on D charts and am of the > > firm opinion that such unsubstantiated propogation / presentation on > > the fallacies of other authors opinion is not a prudent approach; but > > in my opinion - we must wait for his publishing schedule of his white > > paper. Like many other forum members, I am also keenly waiting for > > his case studies on fallacies of generally known D chart > > interpretation model. Let us appreciate that - such publishing often > > has time constraints, for professional preoccupations. > > > > Trust you in me - such exercise is never futile and we all forum > > members will be gaining only, from such research papers. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > thanks for your kind words. > > > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt because u > > > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > > > > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge of > > > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. > > > > > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on practicality of all. > > > > > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better instead of > > > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas as you > > > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > > > > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your > > > incomplete views. > > > > > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by charts not > > > by debating shlokas. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are some of > > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is exactly > > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But pls > > > > remember that within you and me there is something which can read > > > > minds. > > > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can > > > understand > > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning people.Kindly do > > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be read > > > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and amshaka are > > > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at numerous > > > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my posts > > > > won't go through. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no one > > > has > > > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation of all > > > > the > > > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any knowledge in > > > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and Sages as > > > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common one and > > > > > forms > > > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the gentleman > > > > having > > > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis) guiding > > > > you > > > > > or > > > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged in > > > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their hands.Astrology is > > > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you will > > > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter from > > > > Hindi > > > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related > > > > specially > > > > > > to > > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Pradeep ji, I am also waiting for your white papers, .. thanks for making me to laugh :-) Regards, Tarun , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Shri Tarun > > Good attemtpt again.Good luck. > > Let us wait for the paper.Will you be kind enough to give me that > much time.I have attempted many quizzes and have analyzed many charts > in the list,though from within my own limitations. > > Shlokas are a must for my debates.The purpose of this debate is not > to check if some techniques works for someone. > > The purpose is to check whether those are conforming to rules set by > sages or not.Those who want to invent new are free to do so.My > intentions are clear. > > Pls kindly do not disturb me. > > Regds > Pradeep > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > First of all i dont know to laugh or to feel sad, ....but if u > still > > think that i have someone above me, then please do consider sharing > > the names with me/group so that I may also know them. > > > > i am seeing from last one month that you are just posting > > shlokas..........so it make me to ask you abt sanksrit words. > > and i thought that asking any sanskrit meaning from such a sanskrit > > literate person was not a wrong attitude. > > > > As sanskrit has the biggest vocabulary in world, and even a > > single " . " dot can chagne the meaning of phrase. > > > > > > But you have purposefully trying to connect me to " someone " . Please > > share more informaation about this invisible " somneone " . Your > > enlightened mail will help me adding someone above me? I think - > you > > will oblige me !! > > > > and for your relaxation...I always carry my own identity, and do > not > > consider forum as fighting ground. You must appreciate that, I did > > make reasonable request to you. My asking you question should not > be > > bugging you? > > > > I again please you to reveal the hidden names in your mind who are > > behind me, or donot write such things for me. > > > > > > As Bhagwan Shiva is above me :-) > > > > Regards, > > > > tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Tarun > > > > > > Thanks for your views. > > > I do not know anything and i accept it.The day i consider myself > a > > > Guru,my vehicle will go in the wrong direction as you have > rightly > > > said. > > > > > > As long as Lord Shankara guides me my vehicle will go in the > right > > > direction. > > > > > > You will get practical examples in my paper. > > > > > > You can only ignore my vaid questions as the ones who are guiding > > you > > > is doing.But how long? > > > > > > From day 1 ,i knew your intention and hence the delay in touching > > > your chart. > > > If you think ,what you are doing is right,then carry on. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > thanks for your kind words. > > > > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt > because > > u > > > > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > > > > > > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge of > > > > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. > > > > > > > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on practicality > of > > > all. > > > > > > > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better instead > of > > > > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas as > > you > > > > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > > > > > > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your > > > > incomplete views. > > > > > > > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by > charts > > > not > > > > by debating shlokas. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are > some > > of > > > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > > > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is > > > exactly > > > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But > pls > > > > > remember that within you and me there is something which can > > read > > > > > minds. > > > > > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can > > > > understand > > > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning > > people.Kindly > > > do > > > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to be > > read > > > > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and > amshaka > > > are > > > > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at > > numerous > > > > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my > > posts > > > > > won't go through. > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that no > > one > > > > has > > > > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct interpretation > of > > > all > > > > > the > > > > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any > knowledge > > in > > > > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and > > Sages > > > as > > > > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common > one > > > and > > > > > > forms > > > > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the > > gentleman > > > > > having > > > > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis) > > guiding > > > > > you > > > > > > or > > > > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others engaged > > in > > > > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their > hands.Astrology > > > is > > > > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you > will > > > > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " > <tarun.virgo@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter > > from > > > > > Hindi > > > > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is related > > > > > specially > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Thanks shri Tarun Let our humour sense helps us to stay as friends. Regds Pradeep , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > I am also waiting for your white papers, .. > > thanks for making me to laugh :-) > > Regards, > > Tarun > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Tarun > > > > Good attemtpt again.Good luck. > > > > Let us wait for the paper.Will you be kind enough to give me that > > much time.I have attempted many quizzes and have analyzed many > charts > > in the list,though from within my own limitations. > > > > Shlokas are a must for my debates.The purpose of this debate is not > > to check if some techniques works for someone. > > > > The purpose is to check whether those are conforming to rules set > by > > sages or not.Those who want to invent new are free to do so.My > > intentions are clear. > > > > Pls kindly do not disturb me. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > First of all i dont know to laugh or to feel sad, ....but if u > > still > > > think that i have someone above me, then please do consider > sharing > > > the names with me/group so that I may also know them. > > > > > > i am seeing from last one month that you are just posting > > > shlokas..........so it make me to ask you abt sanksrit words. > > > and i thought that asking any sanskrit meaning from such a > sanskrit > > > literate person was not a wrong attitude. > > > > > > As sanskrit has the biggest vocabulary in world, and even a > > > single " . " dot can chagne the meaning of phrase. > > > > > > > > > But you have purposefully trying to connect me to " someone " . > Please > > > share more informaation about this invisible " somneone " . Your > > > enlightened mail will help me adding someone above me? I think - > > you > > > will oblige me !! > > > > > > and for your relaxation...I always carry my own identity, and do > > not > > > consider forum as fighting ground. You must appreciate that, I > did > > > make reasonable request to you. My asking you question should not > > be > > > bugging you? > > > > > > I again please you to reveal the hidden names in your mind who > are > > > behind me, or donot write such things for me. > > > > > > > > > As Bhagwan Shiva is above me :-) > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Tarun > > > > > > > > Thanks for your views. > > > > I do not know anything and i accept it.The day i consider > myself > > a > > > > Guru,my vehicle will go in the wrong direction as you have > > rightly > > > > said. > > > > > > > > As long as Lord Shankara guides me my vehicle will go in the > > right > > > > direction. > > > > > > > > You will get practical examples in my paper. > > > > > > > > You can only ignore my vaid questions as the ones who are > guiding > > > you > > > > is doing.But how long? > > > > > > > > From day 1 ,i knew your intention and hence the delay in > touching > > > > your chart. > > > > If you think ,what you are doing is right,then carry on. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > thanks for your kind words. > > > > > You could have replied me earlier this too but you didnt > > because > > > u > > > > > really didnt knew anything abt it. > > > > > > > > > > But i am sure in one thing that you donot have any knowledge > of > > > > > Sanskrit and even then you are trying to prove Masters wrong. > > > > > > > > > > now leave BPHS and leave other books and think on > practicality > > of > > > > all. > > > > > > > > > > just in few lines astrology cant be defined, so better > instead > > of > > > > > driving your vechicle in wrong direction of quoting shlokas > as > > > you > > > > > donot know its meaning. Try to prove charts. > > > > > > > > > > Its my humble request you to not to misguide people by your > > > > > incomplete views. > > > > > > > > > > or if you think that you are correct, then plz prove it by > > charts > > > > not > > > > > by debating shlokas. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman etc are > > some > > > of > > > > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had this doubt,as > > > > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now your reply is > > > > exactly > > > > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the context. > > > > > > > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read your mind.But > > pls > > > > > > remember that within you and me there is something which > can > > > read > > > > > > minds. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of whether i can > > > > > understand > > > > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man questioning > > > people.Kindly > > > > do > > > > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that ''KA'' has to > be > > > read > > > > > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that amsha and > > amshaka > > > > are > > > > > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one place,but at > > > numerous > > > > > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification for me as my > > > posts > > > > > > won't go through. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will say that > no > > > one > > > > > has > > > > > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct > interpretation > > of > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have any > > knowledge > > > in > > > > > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting Masters and > > > Sages > > > > as > > > > > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi vocabulary,but a common > > one > > > > and > > > > > > > forms > > > > > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls request the > > > gentleman > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near his locality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many individuals (mis) > > > guiding > > > > > > you > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting others > engaged > > > in > > > > > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their > > hands.Astrology > > > > is > > > > > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am sure that you > > will > > > > > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " > > <tarun.virgo@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of sanskrit, > > > > > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha " a letter > > > from > > > > > > Hindi > > > > > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as it is > related > > > > > > specially > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Satish ji Thanks. We are prepared to learn if some one can present views of sages in a logically consistent fashion. In reality,if the astrological community was scientific enough,then a paper would not had been necessary. Lagna shadvargake shloka is sufficient.Forget that-Paparkshe meaning PapaRashi while talking of Saturn in 2nd or so from karakamsha is the complete proof that placements are taken w.r to Rashi. Mahamunis will never mix Riksha,Bhavana and amsha.If anyone can show a single reference where Rikhsa is meant as amsha - we can stop this exercise now and here. As you may note,inspite of myself talking about amsha-amshaka from shri Rath,not even a single student has raised a question.But you may see,many are eager to counter us.Thus we know the sincerity. Did shri Sanjay Rath,talk a word regarding this written discrepency from him. Thus we have to demonstrate all the discrepencies.Numerous.We can never expect support from all.Even in cases of Tattwas it is true.If they are uniform ,then creation is not possible.Similarly if we get support and attention from a few enthusiastic students,purpose is solved. Regds Pradeep , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Thanks Vijaydas, > > One does not need to know Sanskrit to think logically. > You are thinking logically and thats why questions > arise. Divisions taken as charts is probably the > biggest myth propogated. Where that is really so or > not will have to wait. Anyway search for what exactly > the sages meant continues. As you have said before " > Earth is round, but church is strong " > > It will be a difficult task, but I beleive most > competent and learned astrologers use mostly the rashi > chart from lagna and from moon. The divisions is a > secondary/tertiary factor. > > Those who have posted twin charts, or similar charts > as a challenge to use divisions as charts, would they > change prediction of the a chart drastically if the > other chart( Of the other twin or other native) was > not presented to them ? I strongly doubt it. > > Satish > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: > > > Dear Satish ji > > > > The meaning of zero may not be related to > > Katapayadi. > > Space is infact Shoonya and Shoonya infact > > encompasses all.Thus the > > meani you have given is good and points to a Bigger > > Truth. > > > > You know the purpose of all these questions.When the > > question is How > > many kilos of Rice - 5 kgs of Wheat as answer is of > > no help. > > > > Whether i know sanskrit or not is a different > > issue.Whether one can > > answer the question rasied is important.One can > > ignore questions ,but > > it will be like closing own eyes and creating > > darkness. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Vijaydas, > > > > > > Does Kha also mean zero or blank. Khaveda is 40. > > Veda > > > is probably referring to number 4 and kha to 0 or > > > emplty space. > > > > > > Satish > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > If nobody is misguiding you then it is fine.Good > > > > luck. > > > > > > > > Now Kha has many meanings - > > Sun,Sky,Space,Brahman > > > > etc are some of > > > > the various meanings. > > > > > > > > If i tell one among these,your friend(who had > > this > > > > doubt,as > > > > mentioned by you) will tease accordingly.Now > > your > > > > reply is exactly > > > > as i have expected.Thus i had mentioned the > > context. > > > > > > > > So you see,i do not have the ability to read > > your > > > > mind.But pls > > > > remember that within you and me there is > > something > > > > which can read > > > > minds. > > > > > > > > Pls understand that,it is not a question of > > whether > > > > i can understand > > > > sanskrit or not.We are talking about masters. > > > > > > > > Now - to me you look like a honest man > > questioning > > > > people.Kindly do > > > > me a favour.Shri Snjay Rath,has taught that > > ''KA'' > > > > has to be read > > > > from Rashi chakra.From BPHS we have seen that > > amsha > > > > and amshaka are > > > > used for the same purpose ,not only in one > > place,but > > > > at numerous > > > > places.Could you kindly get this clarification > > for > > > > me as my posts > > > > won't go through. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " > > > > <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > > > > > > > > No problem you donot know sanskrit. but i will > > say > > > > that no one has > > > > > misguided me and no one can...atleast me. > > > > > > > > > > Well " Kha " stands for Surya in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > > > I guess than you cannot suggest the correct > > > > interpretation of all > > > > the > > > > > astrology sholkas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > You have some misunderstanding.I do not have > > any > > > > knowledge in > > > > > > Sanskrit.For the same reason i was quoting > > > > Masters and Sages as > > > > > > compared to contemporary interpretations. > > > > > > > > > > > > ''Kha'' is not only from hindi > > vocabulary,but a > > > > common one and > > > > > forms > > > > > > the basis of my mother toungue as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ka,Kha,Ga,Gha,nga > > > > > > Cha,cha,ja,jha,nja > > > > > > > > > > > > etc were the ones first taught to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanings are based on contexts and pls > > request > > > > the gentleman > > > > having > > > > > > doubt to consult some sanskrit pandit near > > his > > > > locality. > > > > > > > > > > > > A friendly note - There will be many > > individuals > > > > (mis)guiding > > > > you > > > > > or > > > > > > using you as an instrument for distracting > > > > others engaged in > > > > > > specific tasks.Don't becoem a pawn in their > > > > hands.Astrology is > > > > > > divine and Truth alone will triumph.I am > > sure > > > > that you will > > > > > > understand this and wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " > > > > <tarun.virgo@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have quite deep knowledge of > > sanskrit, > > > > > > > Can you please suggest me meaning of " Kha > > " a > > > > letter from > > > > Hindi > > > > > > > Vocabulary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone asked me the meaning of this, as > > it is > > > > related > > > > specially > > > > > > to > > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if you suggest me the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Boardwalk for $500? 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