'Desa, Kala, Patra' [Place, Time, Identity]

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

There is a growing trend of Astrology moving to the Internet - whether

it is for teaching/learning (like this group) or offering services

(like my site Astrolife.com). There are services available on the cell

phone too.

 

I have also seen many people suggesting that the best way to prove

astrology is by doing 'blind predictions'. Is this a valid statement?

 

Is it right to make predictions without knowing the Identify of the

Native?

 

What is your opinion about this, specifically pertaining to the DKP

principle of knowing the place, time and identify of the Jataka before

making any prediction.

 

Where did this principle originate? Is there any reference to this in

BPHS or other knowledge sources?

 

This issue is going to be lot more important in the coming years,

especially in India due to the growing penetration of Internet and

cellphones.

 

We also need to deal with what exactly do we mean by DKP.

 

regards,

raj rao

[Guest guest]

Dear member,

Desh, Kaal and Patra is a basis principle of

astrology. Though I am unable to quote the classical

book, but it is very important for astrologers.

According to me Desh means the culture under which the

native is brought up and prevailing environment of the

society such as in wester culture 3rd or 4th marriage

gets settled, but in Hindu culture 2nd marriage is not

encouraged. In Western culture physical sexual contact

is not given any importance, but in Hindu culture it

is not appreciated and so on. Kaala means the age of

the native. What can be predicted for the infant, we

can not predict for the young native or old native.

What can be said of for the poor native can not be

said of a wealthy native, such as the wealthy native

may suffer loss of crore of rupee, but a poor native

will suffer loss of only a few hundreds. The first

round of Saturn's transit give different results and

2nd round give different results and 3rd round may

bring death also. So Kaala is important. Paatra is

also important such as educated and uneducated, rich

and poor, healthy and disable etc. So one should see

the deasha, Kaala and Paatra before giving prediction.

--- indiadirector <raj wrote:

 

> Dear Members,

> There is a growing trend of Astrology moving to the

> Internet - whether

> it is for teaching/learning (like this group) or

> offering services

> (like my site Astrolife.com). There are services

> available on the cell

> phone too.

>

> I have also seen many people suggesting that the

> best way to prove

> astrology is by doing 'blind predictions'. Is this a

> valid statement?

>

> Is it right to make predictions without knowing the

> Identify of the

> Native?

>

> What is your opinion about this, specifically

> pertaining to the DKP

> principle of knowing the place, time and identify of

> the Jataka before

> making any prediction.

>

> Where did this principle originate? Is there any

> reference to this in

> BPHS or other knowledge sources?

>

> This issue is going to be lot more important in the

> coming years,

> especially in India due to the growing penetration

> of Internet and

> cellphones.

>

> We also need to deal with what exactly do we mean by

> DKP.

>

> regards,

> raj rao

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

Blind Charts -

 

Depends on the intention.

 

1) May be used for challenging an innocent astrologer.

2) May be used for challenging an over-intelligent

astrologer, who may be asked to prove his theory

on the Blind chart.

3) Purely for the academic purposes.

 

What should be the probable action

on those who have been challenged.

 

1) Should not accept the challenge-as per Shastras.

2) Challenge should be accepted, and theory proved.

3) Challenge should be accepted and enjoyed by all.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " indiadirector " <raj wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

> There is a growing trend of Astrology moving to the Internet - whether

> it is for teaching/learning (like this group) or offering services

> (like my site Astrolife.com). There are services available on the cell

> phone too.

>

> I have also seen many people suggesting that the best way to prove

> astrology is by doing 'blind predictions'. Is this a valid statement?

>

> Is it right to make predictions without knowing the Identify of the

> Native?

>

> What is your opinion about this, specifically pertaining to the DKP

> principle of knowing the place, time and identify of the Jataka before

> making any prediction.

>

> Where did this principle originate? Is there any reference to this in

> BPHS or other knowledge sources?

>

> This issue is going to be lot more important in the coming years,

> especially in India due to the growing penetration of Internet and

> cellphones.

>

> We also need to deal with what exactly do we mean by DKP.

>

> regards,

> raj rao

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

// I have also seen many people suggesting that the

best way to prove astrology is by doing 'blind

predictions'. Is this a valid statement? //

 

Depends on the platform , one is situated. If in an ashram,or

in todays relevance a clasroom of jyotish, then the Blind

Chart given by the Guru to his shishyas-students, would

be a real learning excersise, and also a tool

for assessment of the students progress

for the guru. here it is good

 

In other cases, it may or may not be proper.

 

If a native is not confident, then the astrologer may have

to resort to this, to prove himself or the Jyotish science.

 

In certain places it may only be a resort for one to check

about his own family members charts or get free

readings, or push up his accomplices or bring down his

opponents in a unfair game of Blind Chart. here it may

not be proper to read the Blind Chart.

 

It is like a Knife. In surgeons hands, it is good, For

a person cutting a birthday cake, its good, but in a childs

hand and a psychopaths hand, it may be dangerous.

 

 

// Is it right to make predictions without knowing the Identify of the

> Native?

> > What is your opinion about this, specifically pertaining to the DKP

> principle of knowing the place, time and identify of the Jataka before

> making any prediction. //

 

Normally it is not proper to make predictions before taking stock of

the birth details and particulars.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> Blind Charts -

>

> Depends on the intention.

>

> 1) May be used for challenging an innocent astrologer.

> 2) May be used for challenging an over-intelligent

> astrologer, who may be asked to prove his theory

> on the Blind chart.

> 3) Purely for the academic purposes.

>

> What should be the probable action

> on those who have been challenged.

>

> 1) Should not accept the challenge-as per Shastras.

> 2) Challenge should be accepted, and theory proved.

> 3) Challenge should be accepted and enjoyed by all.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , " indiadirector " <raj@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> > There is a growing trend of Astrology moving to the Internet - whether

> > it is for teaching/learning (like this group) or offering services

> > (like my site Astrolife.com). There are services available on the cell

> > phone too.

> >

> > I have also seen many people suggesting that the best way to prove

> > astrology is by doing 'blind predictions'. Is this a valid statement?

> >

> > Is it right to make predictions without knowing the Identify of the

> > Native?

> >

> > What is your opinion about this, specifically pertaining to the DKP

> > principle of knowing the place, time and identify of the Jataka before

> > making any prediction.

> >

> > Where did this principle originate? Is there any reference to this in

> > BPHS or other knowledge sources?

> >

> > This issue is going to be lot more important in the coming years,

> > especially in India due to the growing penetration of Internet and

> > cellphones.

> >

> > We also need to deal with what exactly do we mean by DKP.

> >

> > regards,

> > raj rao

> >

>