sarpa yoga

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Guruji,

 

Happy Janmaastami, Sir.

 

Please forgive me for the delayed response. Yesterday

was a very important day for me personally, as it

marked completion of 20 years of married life. “Bees

saal baad “ most of the marriages become horror

stories[:--)], but luckily ours remains exceptionally

happy, so the celebrations continued late. I am very

happy that great souls like you, Narasimha and Ramdas

Rao ji thought of me yesterday, (could be with

affection or exasperation :--)… still I count on

those very thoughts as your blessings.

 

I agree with you that nodes are the real sarpa and

this birth itself is a sarpa yoga caused by those

nodes. But metaphysics apart, if nodes are included,

two kendras from each other are automatically

qualified for the yoga and nearly 1/3rd of the earth’s

population would be affected by sarpa yoga !

Ofcourse, you are right in saying that even though

nodes are not included in the classical definition of

sarpa yoga, their effect is most terribly felt

whenever they tenant the quadrants. I guess it would

not be unlike having a couple of dementors for

company. May I request that a second option for sarpa

yoga be given in jhora, without the " nabhasa " tag, so

the confusion for folks like me is considerably less?

 

 

Guruji, having said that, I seek your permission to

submit the following. It appears to me that in dala

yogas, as the name " dala " (petals, leaf, divisions-eg:

Ashwa dala etc) itself suggests, there is great

emphasis on homogeneity. Any planet that disturbs the

" sameness " will break the yoga. Rahu & Ketu do not

have bodies, they keep running in the opposite

direction….so that sibilant smoothness, that rhythm,

so very characteristic of sarpa yoga, is lost. So,

honestly speaking, despite their malevolence, I do not

think that the nodes belong.

 

On the other hand, Moon is extremely amenable and

blends into the environment, so moon will not break

the dala yoga. Thanks for tipping me off about

Kemadruma yoga, because this yoga precisely

illustrates Moon’s accommodative social nature and his

craving for company of any kind. Was it not proved

when Chandra yielded to the advances of Tara, the

moment his guru's back was turned?

 

While jupiter’s influence would be most ideal, the

fact remains that any planet (except sun),doesn’t

matter whether malefic or benefic, a friend or a foe,

in kendras to moon/lagna or conjoining moon can break

the kemadruma yoga. Without the support of other

planets, can the Moon alone, however strong or full,

break the yoga? I think not.

 

Sri Krishna’s Moon is definitely strong, but I think

Saturn/ Jupiter in quadrants also helped to break

Krishna’s kemadruma and reinforce his intellect. The

fact that Moon is Krishna’s 3rd lord of paraakrama

also facilitated Kaliya mardana, & it is clear that Sri

Krishna forced the sarpa yoga to happen and was

prepared before hand to break it. It’s precisely the

other way round for us poor mortals!

 

Ofcourse, whatever you say is true about Kala sarpa

yoga, because it’s a different story out there since

all planets can participate.

 

> However if the Moon is

> strong as in the chart

> of Krishna and is in the lagna or 7th house then it

> shall give the intellect

> the ability to fight the sarpa like the Kaliya

> mardana sri Krishna. Thats

> why I always give more emphasis to the special

> placement of the Moon in 1st

> or 7th house. Such a Moon shall have over riding

> powers in matters of

> longevity also (see rules for method of 3 pairs).

 

Hmm…that’s a very interesting thought, Guruji.

 

Waiting for your corrections,

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

 

--- Guru Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

 

>

>

> |om namo bhagavate vasudevaya|

> Dear Lakshmi

> Narasimha is right.

> We will only be going wrong if we exclude the nodes

> who are the real sarpa

> in the definition of sarpa yoga. Naabhasa means sky

> and these yogas give us

> an idea of what is sure to dominate throughout life

> irrespective of dasa.

> However the sarpa and other malefic yoga when formed

> with the nodes is said

> to dominate for a considerable period of time till

> say 45 years and

> sometimes more. we have studied many charts in the

> past and have found this

> to work showing that the definition of nabhaasa

> yogas is worth extending in

> some cases with justification.

> Other comments below your mail -

> With best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

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> [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

> lakshmi ramesh

> Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:20 AM

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: Sarpa Yoga

>

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Narasimha garu,

>

> > Not all naabhasa yogas exclude nodes. Sarpa yoga

> > includes nodes too.

>

> I checked out the chapters on Nabhasa yogas in 3

> different books and have not come across this

> inclusion of nodes. Perhaps I missed it. Could you

> please point out where this is mentioned?

> [s.Rath:] How can sarpa be without the nodes.Kala

> sarpa and other sarpa yoga

> must include the nodes. The nabhasa yoga with three

> body malefics is akin to

> sarpa formation that dominates the life of the

> individual.

> >

> > What do you mean by Moon is neither a benefic nor

> a

> > malefic??? Of course,

> > Moon is either a malefic or a benefic based on the

> > day. Parasara clearly

> > taught that.

>

> Narasimha garu, please allow me to quote BS Rao on

> Brihat Jatakam . (i hope you would not misunderstand

> it)

>

> " ..If all the malefics are in Kendra it is called

> sarpa. When the 3 malefics Saturn, Mars and the Sun

> occupy the 3 kendras without any benefics with them

> or

> in the 4th Kendra, it is called sarpa yoga and

> produces a sorrowful and unpleasant existence.

> ..only

> 3 good and 3 evil planets are mentioned and not the

> Moon. He is both good and bad as he waxes and wanes

> and his presence or absence makes no difference in

> the

> yoga.

>

> Suppose the 3 malefics occupy the 3 kendras and a

> Full

> moon occupies the 4th Kendra. He does not disturb

> the

> Sarpa yoga. Suppose 3 benefics occupy 3 quadrants

> and

> a weak moon joins the 4th Kendra, then the yoga is

> also not disturbed. Infact all the great Maharishis

> (

> Bhattotpala quoted Badarayana, Parasara, Gargi,

> Satyacharya etc in this context) quoted above have

> not taken any notice of Chandra in this connection.

>

> It is really not clear as to how the moon (manah

> karaka) governing the mind should have been omitted

> in

> these yogas, as many of our miseries are more mental

> than physical. "

> [s.Rath:] According to Parasara, the Moon joining a

> poverty giving

> combination like the Kemadruma Yoga will only

> enhance the negative

> significations of the yoga indicating that once the

> mind readily accepts the

> poverty as a fait accompli, it is a confimation of

> utter poverty throughout

> life where the dasa will have but little effect.

> This is in line with the

> teachings of the other rishi. However if the Moon is

> strong as in the chart

> of Krishna and is in the lagna or 7th house then it

> shall give the intellect

> the ability to fight the sarpa like the Kaliya

> mardana sri Krishna. Thats

> why I always give more emphasis to the special

> placement of the Moon in 1st

> or 7th house. Such a Moon shall have over riding

> powers in matters of

> longevity also (see rules for method of 3 pairs).

> [s.Rath:] I have given too may seeds for thought in

> these few lines. Please

> consider all of them point by point and revert back.

>

> [s.Rath:] BS Rao is not conclusive in his statement

> and has clearly

> expressed his doubt about how the Moon is omitted. I

> have given the

> necessary input in addition to that of BS Rao. Moon

> in 1 or 7 or in great

> strength will break the yoga.

>

> So, moon is more likely to put up with sarpa yoga,

> rather than break it.

>

> Thanks for bearing with my amateurish and inadequate

> reasoning. Today, I am truly reminded of the Telugu

> saametha.Hanumanthudi mundu kuppiganthulaa?

>

> Looking forward to your reply,

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Hare ramakrishna,

 

dear anna ,

 

Sarpa yoga --falls under nabhas yogas which uses kendra,trine

positions or l,also suppose all planets except rahu and ketu in 3 rais

--all planets in one rasi (off course except rahu --ketu axis) to assess

the strenght of the chart here they dont see lordships or yoga

karakas.or benefic for purticular lagna.

 

So sarpa yoga forms when 3 angles are occuppied by malefics or if

4 angles it is full yoga.--it may block rise in life even if so many

raja yogas r there otherwise .

 

So bhaskarjis chart there is no sarpa yoga.

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

, 108ar <bona_mente wrote:

>

> Dear Satya,

>

> I am very intrigued by your post, would you please direct me to the

article you are refferring to? For ex. rayaYoga pl. for Ta Lagna is Sa-

does any contact between Rahu and Saturn become positive /conj.,square

or trine/? I've learnt that Rahu/Mars and Rahu/Sa bring Sarpa yoga, of

sort. Mars trine Rahu as well, for Cn Lagna. In mutual kendra as well.

>

> Best wishes,

> Anna

>

> SPK aquaris_rising wrote:

> Satyaji,

>

> Rahu in kedra with kona lord becomes a rajayoga. There

> is no doubt about it. But rahu is a malefic. The term

> malefic is in its truest sense a planets that affect

> health and longevity. So rahu in kendra with kona lord

> is a rajayoga but rajayoga does not mean it would be

> great in all areas of life. Thas the subtle

> difference. Rahu and mangal in a house will harm the

> living indications of that house. So lets say malefics

> and rajayoga planets are in 4th house it may give the

> native good properties but will affect the mother in

> adverse way. Thats the point I am making here.

>

> I am not making fun of anyone's horoscope, in fact I

> have no interest whatsoever in the said natives

> horoscope. He is chiding everyone and sundry time and

> again and such childish and immature behavior has been

> going on for long and its best nipped in the bud.

> Besides arguments( Not debates) and agitation what has

> this individual done on the list. Go back into

> archives and check. Its just a nuisance. No one is

> asking him to waste his time and he should refrain

> from wasting others time as well.

>

> Satish

>

> --- Satya Sai Kolachina skolachi wrote:

>

> > Dear Sri Satish,

> >

> > I would suggest you read Sri KN Rao's articles about

> > when Rahu

> > becomes benefic. When Rahu and Ketu associate with

> > the Yoga Karaka

> > for a lagna, and that is also in a Kendra or Kona,

> > then it becomes

> > full benefic and bestows benefic results. I would

> > request you please

> > not make fun of others' horoscopes, as a wise

> > astrologer.

> >

> > Dear Sri Bhaskar,

> >

> > You are making here an unnecessary attempt. Please

> > consider my wise

> > advise and leave these arguments. Please do not

> > waste your energy to

> > teach them astrology.

> >

> > Best regards to both of you,

> >

> > Satya Sai Kolachina

> >

> >

>

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