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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Namaste,

 

JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly follows BPHS. In the

given chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a purer sense the the

presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify the

yoga. Try to use your own understanding and experience, The List of

Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

 

 

sohamsa , Venkatesh S <ksvssvk> wrote:

> |JAI SRIRAM|

> Dear Jyotisa,

>

> Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show Sarpa Yoga for the following

> details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of birth has malefics three

> kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun).

> October 23,2005

> 13:56:18

> 5:30 East

> Place:New Delhi India

>

> Thanks,

> S.Venkatesh

>

>

>

> __

> Start your day with - make it your home page

> http://www./r/hs

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|JAI SRIRAM|

Dear Jyotisa,

 

JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly follows BPHS.

Have you seen my previous question? That is why i quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

In the given chart, Moon is partially benefic.

How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

In a purer sense the the presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify the yoga.

Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora supports nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

Try to use your own understanding and experience, The List of Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.

My question is why Jhora doesn't show the Sarpa Yoga for the given birth details and it is not a question of My understanding and experience.

 

Thanks,

S.Venkatesh

 

sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote:

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Namaste,JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly follows BPHS. In thegiven chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a purer sense the thepresence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify theyoga. Try to use your own understanding and experience, The List ofYoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.Warm RegardsSanjay Psohamsa , Venkatesh S <ksvssvk> wrote:> |JAI SRIRAM|> Dear Jyotisa,> > Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show Sarpa Yoga for the following> details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of birth has malefics three> kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun).> October 23,2005> 13:56:18> 5:30 East> Place:New Delhi India> > Thanks,> S.Venkatesh>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Venkatesh,

 

In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol I),

it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only formed if

there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in any

angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are in an

angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no sarpa

yoga.

 

regards,

Lakshmi

 

--- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

 

> |JAI SRIRAM|

> Dear Jyotisa,

>

>

> JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly

> follows BPHS.

>

> Have you seen my previous question? That is why i

> quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

>

> In the given chart, Moon is partially benefic.

>

> How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

>

> In a purer sense the the presence of Moon and

> mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify the

> yoga.

>

> Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora supports

> nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

>

> Try to use your own understanding and experience,

> The List of Yoga given by JHora can be used for

> pointers.

>

> My question is why Jhora doesn't show the Sarpa

> Yoga for the given birth details and it is not a

> question of My understanding and experience.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> S.Venkatesh

>

>

>

>

> sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote:

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Namaste,

>

> JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly

> follows BPHS. In the

> given chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a purer

> sense the the

> presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can

> potentially nullify the

> yoga. Try to use your own understanding and

> experience, The List of

> Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.

>

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P

>

>

>

> sohamsa , Venkatesh S

> <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > Dear Jyotisa,

> >

> > Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show Sarpa

> Yoga for the following

> > details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of birth

> has malefics three

> > kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun).

> > October 23,2005

> > 13:56:18

> > 5:30 East

> > Place:New Delhi India

> >

> > Thanks,

> > S.Venkatesh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> __

> > Start your day with - make it your home

> page

> > http://www./r/hs

>

>

>

>

> *tat savitur varenyam*

>

>

>

>

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|JAI SRIRAM|

Dear Lakshmi,

 

Thank you very much for your reply and the quotes from

GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of BPHS and unable to

find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the soft copy " Ch. 35.

Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3 Kendras are occupied by

benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics so placed will cause

Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas, respectively, produce benefic and

malefic results " .

I don't think Jhora follows the book you had mentioned

since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows Sarpa Yoga,HE has Jupiter

exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa yoga.In my chart Venus in

its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa yoga still Jhora shows

Sarpa Yoga.

 

Thanks,

S.Venkatesh

 

--- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

 

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Venkatesh,

>

> In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol I),

> it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only formed if

> there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in any

> angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are in an

> angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no sarpa

> yoga.

>

> regards,

> Lakshmi

>

> --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

>

> > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > Dear Jyotisa,

> >

> >

> > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly

> > follows BPHS.

> >

> > Have you seen my previous question? That is why i

> > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

> >

> > In the given chart, Moon is partially benefic.

> >

> > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

> >

> > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon and

> > mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify the

> > yoga.

> >

> > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora supports

> > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

> >

> > Try to use your own understanding and experience,

> > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be used for

> > pointers.

> >

> > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the Sarpa

> > Yoga for the given birth details and it is not a

> > question of My understanding and experience.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > S.Venkatesh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote:

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Namaste,

> >

> > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly

> > follows BPHS. In the

> > given chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a purer

> > sense the the

> > presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can

> > potentially nullify the

> > yoga. Try to use your own understanding and

> > experience, The List of

> > Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> > Sanjay P

> >

> >

> >

> > sohamsa , Venkatesh S

> > <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > >

> > > Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show Sarpa

> > Yoga for the following

> > > details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of birth

> > has malefics three

> > > kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun).

> > > October 23,2005

> > > 13:56:18

> > > 5:30 East

> > > Place:New Delhi India

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > S.Venkatesh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > __

> > > Start your day with - make it your home

> > page

> > > http://www./r/hs

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > *tat savitur varenyam*

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Venkatesh,

 

Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure among the

yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that Parasara,

when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7 and 10th

houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both a

kendra and a kona.

 

In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in lagna, so

the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also situated in

lagna?

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

--- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

 

> |JAI SRIRAM|

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> Thank you very much for your reply and

> the quotes from

> GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of BPHS

> and unable to

> find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the soft

> copy " Ch. 35.

> Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3 Kendras

> are occupied by

> benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics so

> placed will cause

> Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas, respectively,

> produce benefic and

> malefic results " .

> I don't think Jhora follows the book

> you had mentioned

> since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows Sarpa

> Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa yoga.In

> my chart Venus in

> its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa yoga

> still Jhora shows

> Sarpa Yoga.

>

> Thanks,

> S.Venkatesh

>

> --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> wrote:

>

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Venkatesh,

> >

> > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol

> I),

> > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only formed

> if

> > there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in

> any

> > angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are

> in an

> > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no

> sarpa

> > yoga.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> >

> > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > >

> > >

> > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly

> > > follows BPHS.

> > >

> > > Have you seen my previous question? That is why

> i

> > > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

> > >

> > > In the given chart, Moon is partially benefic.

> > >

> > > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

> > >

> > > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon and

> > > mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify the

> > > yoga.

> > >

> > > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora

> supports

> > > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

> > >

> > > Try to use your own understanding and

> experience,

> > > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be used for

> > > pointers.

> > >

> > > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the Sarpa

> > > Yoga for the given birth details and it is not a

> > > question of My understanding and experience.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > S.Venkatesh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

> wrote:

> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly

> > > follows BPHS. In the

> > > given chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a

> purer

> > > sense the the

> > > presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can

> > > potentially nullify the

> > > yoga. Try to use your own understanding and

> > > experience, The List of

> > > Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.

> > >

> > > Warm Regards

> > > Sanjay P

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sohamsa , Venkatesh S

> > > <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > >

> > > > Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show Sarpa

> > > Yoga for the following

> > > > details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of

> birth

> > > has malefics three

> > > > kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun).

> > > > October 23,2005

> > > > 13:56:18

> > > > 5:30 East

> > > > Place:New Delhi India

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> __

> > > > Start your day with - make it your home

> > > page

> > > > http://www./r/hs

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > *tat savitur varenyam*

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Venkatesh,

 

There could be some discrepancy in the software,

because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7 planets,

yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora seems to

include Rahu & ketu.

 

On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300 important

combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

kendras include lagna also, but the definition is

limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a kendra

each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa yoga. Moon

is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no difference

to the yoga(s).

 

Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am sure

Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

--- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

 

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Venkatesh,

>

> Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure among the

> yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

> Parasara,

> when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7 and

> 10th

> houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both a

> kendra and a kona.

>

> In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in lagna, so

> the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

> leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also situated

> in

> lagna?

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

>

> --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

>

> > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > Dear Lakshmi,

> >

> > Thank you very much for your reply

> and

> > the quotes from

> > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of

> BPHS

> > and unable to

> > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the

> soft

> > copy " Ch. 35.

> > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3

> Kendras

> > are occupied by

> > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics so

> > placed will cause

> > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas, respectively,

> > produce benefic and

> > malefic results " .

> > I don't think Jhora follows the

> book

> > you had mentioned

> > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows Sarpa

> > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa yoga.In

> > my chart Venus in

> > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa

> yoga

> > still Jhora shows

> > Sarpa Yoga.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > S.Venkatesh

> >

> > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > >

> > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol

> > I),

> > > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only

> formed

> > if

> > > there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in

> > any

> > > angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are

> > in an

> > > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no

> > sarpa

> > > yoga.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > >

> > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> mostly

> > > > follows BPHS.

> > > >

> > > > Have you seen my previous question? That is

> why

> > i

> > > > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

> > > >

> > > > In the given chart, Moon is partially benefic.

> > > >

> > > > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

> > > >

> > > > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon and

> > > > mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify

> the

> > > > yoga.

> > > >

> > > > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora

> > supports

> > > > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

> > > >

> > > > Try to use your own understanding and

> > experience,

> > > > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be used

> for

> > > > pointers.

> > > >

> > > > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the

> Sarpa

> > > > Yoga for the given birth details and it is not

> a

> > > > question of My understanding and experience.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

> > wrote:

> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> mostly

> > > > follows BPHS. In the

> > > > given chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a

> > purer

> > > > sense the the

> > > > presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can

> > > > potentially nullify the

> > > > yoga. Try to use your own understanding and

> > > > experience, The List of

> > > > Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.

> > > >

> > > > Warm Regards

> > > > Sanjay P

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , Venkatesh S

> > > > <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > > >

> > > > > Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show

> Sarpa

> > > > Yoga for the following

> > > > > details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of

> > birth

> > > > has malefics three

> > > > > kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun).

> > > > > October 23,2005

> > > > > 13:56:18

> > > > > 5:30 East

> > > > > Place:New Delhi India

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> >

> __

> > > > > Start your day with - make it your

> home

> > > > page

> > > > > http://www./r/hs

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > *tat savitur varenyam*

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear All

 

pranaam

 

Following is sameer's reply to the same query on SJC. It seems to be

right.But can any body find mention of " Sun " as not malefic when

joined benafic in any scripture.

 

 

Pranaam

 

Ajay

 

Three points:

 

1. I'm pretty sure that with the Nabhasa Yogas we don't use the

functional nature of planets. By definition, Sarpa Yoga is formed

when three kendras are occupied by naisargika krura grahas (nodes

included).

 

2. You'll find that in other cases, Jagannath Hora lists Sarpa Yoga

even if it is broken by benefics.

 

3. As to why there is no Sarpa Yoga in the chart posted by

Venkatesh, I've had a think about it and it struck me that for the

purposes of Nabhasa Yogas, the Sun is not considered a malefic when

joined benefics. In this case the Sun is joined Mercury and

Jupiter. So Jagannatha Hora is indeed correct! There is no Sarpa

Yoga in the chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

Samir

 

 

 

sohamsa , " ajayzharotia " <zharotia@d...> wrote:

> Dear all,

>

> Pranaam,

>

> I think Jhora does go beyond just the definition of 3 malefic in

> Kendra.

> I do not know this for sure but, let me try make some point out of

> this.

>

> According to BPHS

>

> Chapter 36-- Natural Benefic do not give auspicious effect when they

> are lord of angle. And natural malefic in that position do not give

> auspicious result, while lord of trine whether benefic or malefic

> always give auspicious result.

>

> Now the point is lord of Ascendant always give good result as

> ascendant is both an angle and trine. Be it benefic are malefic. For

> example In Gemini and Virgo ascendant, Mercury being lord of 4th and

> 10th respectively become lord of angle, but he does not lose his

> benefic nature. But in both these ascendants Jupiter will be lord of

> two angle house and he will lose its benefic aspect considered to be

> infected with Kendradhipati Dosa.

>

> In Gurudev Sanjay's chat, Jupiter is rising in his own rashi.

> For Pisces Ascendant Saturn, Venus, sun, mercury are malefic.

> Mars and Moon are benefic. Even though Mars lord 2nd house but he

> also owns 9th house.He is killer of lagna ,but does not remain that

> malefic because of 9th house lordship.And some how if Mars make

> relation with Ascendant and 10 lord he becomes yoga karaka.

>

> Now, Most important consideration in Sanjay's chart is Ketu is

> exalted.Ketu is the co-lord of Scorpio which is 9th house. So

instead

> of Mars ketu is stronger.Ketu will give result of 9th house.

> So Mars, obviously lose its benefic aspect hence become malefic

>

> Second, Mars is deposited by Mercury which is malefic and placed in

> Dustshtaan.

>

> May be because of this Jhora consider this as giver of bad result.

> and show sarpa yoga in his case.

>

> Now another case, In the Same manner for given data

>

> October 23,2005

> 13:56:18

> 5:30 East

> Place: New Delhi India

>

> You can notice that Capricorn is rising in the ascendant. For

> Capricorn, Mars, Jupiter and the moon are malefic, while Venus and

> Mercury are benefic. Saturn himself will not be a killer. Saturn

> though the lord of killing house the 2nd one, he is free form

> disposition of killer as he is ascendant lord.

>

> Sun also does not get the defect of being 8th lord. He will act for

> the Capricorn ascendant in the same manner as the moon does for

> Sagittarius ascendant.

>

> Only Mars in this case is the malefic of first order. And Jupiter

> become inauspicious being lord of 3rd house

>

> Mercury in this ascendant has his mooltrikona sign in the ninth

house

> therefore he will give effect of ninth house. He might give some

> obstacle in the beginning of his dasa and anterdasa.

>

> So sarpa yoga does not constitute.

>

>

> I request Gurudev to put some light on this

>

>

> Pranaam

>

>

> Ajay

>

>

>

> sohamsa , lakshmi ramesh

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Venkatesh,

> >

> > There could be some discrepancy in the software,

> > because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7 planets,

> > yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora seems to

> > include Rahu & ketu.

> >

> > On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300 important

> > combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

> > kendras include lagna also, but the definition is

> > limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

> > benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a kendra

> > each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa yoga. Moon

> > is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no difference

> > to the yoga(s).

> >

> > Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am sure

> > Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > >

> > > Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure among the

> > > yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

> > > Parasara,

> > > when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7 and

> > > 10th

> > > houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both a

> > > kendra and a kona.

> > >

> > > In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in lagna, so

> > > the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

> > > leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also situated

> > > in

> > > lagna?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > >

> > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you very much for your reply

> > > and

> > > > the quotes from

> > > > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of

> > > BPHS

> > > > and unable to

> > > > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the

> > > soft

> > > > copy " Ch. 35.

> > > > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3

> > > Kendras

> > > > are occupied by

> > > > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics so

> > > > placed will cause

> > > > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas, respectively,

> > > > produce benefic and

> > > > malefic results " .

> > > > I don't think Jhora follows the

> > > book

> > > > you had mentioned

> > > > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows Sarpa

> > > > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> > > > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa yoga.In

> > > > my chart Venus in

> > > > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa

> > > yoga

> > > > still Jhora shows

> > > > Sarpa Yoga.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > >

> > > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol

> > > > I),

> > > > > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only

> > > formed

> > > > if

> > > > > there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in

> > > > any

> > > > > angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are

> > > > in an

> > > > > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no

> > > > sarpa

> > > > > yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> > > mostly

> > > > > > follows BPHS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Have you seen my previous question? That is

> > > why

> > > > i

> > > > > > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the given chart, Moon is partially benefic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon and

> > > > > > mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify

> > > the

> > > > > > yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora

> > > > supports

> > > > > > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try to use your own understanding and

> > > > experience,

> > > > > > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be used

> > > for

> > > > > > pointers.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the

> > > Sarpa

> > > > > > Yoga for the given birth details and it is not

> > > a

> > > > > > question of My understanding and experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> > > mostly

> > > > > > follows BPHS. In the

> > > > > > given chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a

> > > > purer

> > > > > > sense the the

> > > > > > presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can

> > > > > > potentially nullify the

> > > > > > yoga. Try to use your own understanding and

> > > > > > experience, The List of

> > > > > > Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Warm Regards

> > > > > > Sanjay P

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa , Venkatesh S

> > > > > > <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show

> > > Sarpa

> > > > > > Yoga for the following

> > > > > > > details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of

> > > > birth

> > > > > > has malefics three

> > > > > > > kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun).

> > > > > > > October 23,2005

> > > > > > > 13:56:18

> > > > > > > 5:30 East

> > > > > > > Place:New Delhi India

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > __

> > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your

> > > home

> > > > > > page

> > > > > > > http://www./r/hs

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam*

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear Jyotisa,

 

Only Mercury is considered benefic if it joins with benefics,I don't

think it is for Sun and i don't think Jhora consider these kind of

defintions for Sarpa Yoga, for the following birth details Jhora

shows Sarpa Yoga

 

APR 12 2005

23:30:42

Place:New Delhi India

 

Thanks,

S.Venkatesh

 

--- ajayzharotia <zharotia wrote:

 

> Dear All

>

> pranaam

>

> Following is sameer's reply to the same query on SJC. It seems to

> be

> right.But can any body find mention of " Sun " as not malefic when

> joined benafic in any scripture.

>

>

> Pranaam

>

> Ajay

>

> Three points:

>

> 1. I'm pretty sure that with the Nabhasa Yogas we don't use the

> functional nature of planets. By definition, Sarpa Yoga is formed

> when three kendras are occupied by naisargika krura grahas (nodes

> included).

>

> 2. You'll find that in other cases, Jagannath Hora lists Sarpa

> Yoga

> even if it is broken by benefics.

>

> 3. As to why there is no Sarpa Yoga in the chart posted by

> Venkatesh, I've had a think about it and it struck me that for the

> purposes of Nabhasa Yogas, the Sun is not considered a malefic when

>

> joined benefics. In this case the Sun is joined Mercury and

> Jupiter. So Jagannatha Hora is indeed correct! There is no Sarpa

> Yoga in the chart.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

> sohamsa , " ajayzharotia " <zharotia@d...>

> wrote:

> > Dear all,

> >

> > Pranaam,

> >

> > I think Jhora does go beyond just the definition of 3 malefic in

> > Kendra.

> > I do not know this for sure but, let me try make some point out

> of

> > this.

> >

> > According to BPHS

> >

> > Chapter 36-- Natural Benefic do not give auspicious effect when

> they

> > are lord of angle. And natural malefic in that position do not

> give

> > auspicious result, while lord of trine whether benefic or malefic

> > always give auspicious result.

> >

> > Now the point is lord of Ascendant always give good result as

> > ascendant is both an angle and trine. Be it benefic are malefic.

> For

> > example In Gemini and Virgo ascendant, Mercury being lord of 4th

> and

> > 10th respectively become lord of angle, but he does not lose his

> > benefic nature. But in both these ascendants Jupiter will be lord

> of

> > two angle house and he will lose its benefic aspect considered to

> be

> > infected with Kendradhipati Dosa.

> >

> > In Gurudev Sanjay's chat, Jupiter is rising in his own rashi.

> > For Pisces Ascendant Saturn, Venus, sun, mercury are malefic.

> > Mars and Moon are benefic. Even though Mars lord 2nd house but he

>

> > also owns 9th house.He is killer of lagna ,but does not remain

> that

> > malefic because of 9th house lordship.And some how if Mars make

> > relation with Ascendant and 10 lord he becomes yoga karaka.

> >

> > Now, Most important consideration in Sanjay's chart is Ketu is

> > exalted.Ketu is the co-lord of Scorpio which is 9th house. So

> instead

> > of Mars ketu is stronger.Ketu will give result of 9th house.

> > So Mars, obviously lose its benefic aspect hence become malefic

> >

> > Second, Mars is deposited by Mercury which is malefic and placed

> in

> > Dustshtaan.

> >

> > May be because of this Jhora consider this as giver of bad

> result.

> > and show sarpa yoga in his case.

> >

> > Now another case, In the Same manner for given data

> >

> > October 23,2005

> > 13:56:18

> > 5:30 East

> > Place: New Delhi India

> >

> > You can notice that Capricorn is rising in the ascendant. For

> > Capricorn, Mars, Jupiter and the moon are malefic, while Venus

> and

> > Mercury are benefic. Saturn himself will not be a killer. Saturn

> > though the lord of killing house the 2nd one, he is free form

> > disposition of killer as he is ascendant lord.

> >

> > Sun also does not get the defect of being 8th lord. He will act

> for

> > the Capricorn ascendant in the same manner as the moon does for

> > Sagittarius ascendant.

> >

> > Only Mars in this case is the malefic of first order. And Jupiter

> > become inauspicious being lord of 3rd house

> >

> > Mercury in this ascendant has his mooltrikona sign in the ninth

> house

> > therefore he will give effect of ninth house. He might give some

> > obstacle in the beginning of his dasa and anterdasa.

> >

> > So sarpa yoga does not constitute.

> >

> >

> > I request Gurudev to put some light on this

> >

> >

> > Pranaam

> >

> >

> > Ajay

> >

> >

> >

> > sohamsa , lakshmi ramesh

> > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > >

> > > There could be some discrepancy in the software,

> > > because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7 planets,

> > > yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora seems to

> > > include Rahu & ketu.

> > >

> > > On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300 important

> > > combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

> > > kendras include lagna also, but the definition is

> > > limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

> > > benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a kendra

> > > each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa yoga. Moon

> > > is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no difference

> > > to the yoga(s).

> > >

> > > Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am sure

> > > Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure among the

> > > > yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

> > > > Parasara,

> > > > when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7 and

> > > > 10th

> > > > houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both a

> > > > kendra and a kona.

> > > >

> > > > In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in lagna, so

> > > > the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

> > > > leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also situated

> > > > in

> > > > lagna?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you very much for your reply

> > > > and

> > > > > the quotes from

> > > > > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of

> > > > BPHS

> > > > > and unable to

> > > > > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the

> > > > soft

> > > > > copy " Ch. 35.

> > > > > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3

>

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Dear Lakshmi,

 

No,My Venus is in 7th house.

 

Thanks,

S.Venkatesh

--- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

 

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Venkatesh,

>

> Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure among the

> yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that Parasara,

> when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7 and 10th

> houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both a

> kendra and a kona.

>

> In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in lagna, so

> the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

> leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also situated in

> lagna?

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

>

> --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

>

> > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > Dear Lakshmi,

> >

> > Thank you very much for your reply and

> > the quotes from

> > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of BPHS

> > and unable to

> > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the soft

> > copy " Ch. 35.

> > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3 Kendras

> > are occupied by

> > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics so

> > placed will cause

> > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas, respectively,

> > produce benefic and

> > malefic results " .

> > I don't think Jhora follows the book

> > you had mentioned

> > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows Sarpa

> > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa yoga.In

> > my chart Venus in

> > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa yoga

> > still Jhora shows

> > Sarpa Yoga.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > S.Venkatesh

> >

> > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > >

> > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol

> > I),

> > > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only formed

> > if

> > > there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in

> > any

> > > angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are

> > in an

> > > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no

> > sarpa

> > > yoga.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > >

> > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly

> > > > follows BPHS.

> > > >

> > > > Have you seen my previous question? That is why

> > i

> > > > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

> > > >

> > > > In the given chart, Moon is partially benefic.

> > > >

> > > > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

> > > >

> > > > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon and

> > > > mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify the

> > > > yoga.

> > > >

> > > > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora

> > supports

> > > > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

> > > >

> > > > Try to use your own understanding and

> > experience,

> > > > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be used for

> > > > pointers.

> > > >

> > > > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the Sarpa

> > > > Yoga for the given birth details and it is not a

> > > > question of My understanding and experience.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

> > wrote:

> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly

> > > > follows BPHS. In the

> > > > given chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a

> > purer

> > > > sense the the

> > > > presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can

> > > > potentially nullify the

> > > > yoga. Try to use your own understanding and

> > > > experience, The List of

> > > > Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.

> > > >

> > > > Warm Regards

> > > > Sanjay P

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , Venkatesh S

> > > > <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > > >

> > > > > Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show Sarpa

> > > > Yoga for the following

> > > > > details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of

> > birth

> > > > has malefics three

> > > > > kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun).

> > > > > October 23,2005

> > > > > 13:56:18

> > > > > 5:30 East

> > > > > Place:New Delhi India

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > __

> > > > > Start your day with - make it your home

> > > > page

> > > > > http://www./r/hs

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > *tat savitur varenyam*

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Lakshmi,

 

There are five malefics namely Sun,Mars,Saturn,Rahu and Ketu.Jhora

supports three kendras or more occupied by malefics.

 

Thanks,

S.Venkatesh

 

 

--- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

 

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Venkatesh,

>

> There could be some discrepancy in the software,

> because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7 planets,

> yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora seems to

> include Rahu & ketu.

>

> On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300 important

> combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

> kendras include lagna also, but the definition is

> limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

> benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a kendra

> each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa yoga. Moon

> is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no difference

> to the yoga(s).

>

> Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am sure

> Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

> --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Venkatesh,

> >

> > Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure among the

> > yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

> > Parasara,

> > when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7 and

> > 10th

> > houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both a

> > kendra and a kona.

> >

> > In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in lagna, so

> > the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

> > leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also situated

> > in

> > lagna?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> >

> > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > >

> > > Thank you very much for your reply

> > and

> > > the quotes from

> > > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of

> > BPHS

> > > and unable to

> > > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the

> > soft

> > > copy " Ch. 35.

> > > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3

> > Kendras

> > > are occupied by

> > > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics so

> > > placed will cause

> > > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas, respectively,

> > > produce benefic and

> > > malefic results " .

> > > I don't think Jhora follows the

> > book

> > > you had mentioned

> > > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows Sarpa

> > > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> > > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa yoga.In

> > > my chart Venus in

> > > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa

> > yoga

> > > still Jhora shows

> > > Sarpa Yoga.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > S.Venkatesh

> > >

> > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > >

> > > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol

> > > I),

> > > > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only

> > formed

> > > if

> > > > there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in

> > > any

> > > > angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are

> > > in an

> > > > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no

> > > sarpa

> > > > yoga.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> > mostly

> > > > > follows BPHS.

> > > > >

> > > > > Have you seen my previous question? That is

> > why

> > > i

> > > > > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the given chart, Moon is partially benefic.

> > > > >

> > > > > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

> > > > >

> > > > > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon and

> > > > > mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify

> > the

> > > > > yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora

> > > supports

> > > > > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

> > > > >

> > > > > Try to use your own understanding and

> > > experience,

> > > > > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be used

> > for

> > > > > pointers.

> > > > >

> > > > > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the

> > Sarpa

> > > > > Yoga for the given birth details and it is not

> > a

> > > > > question of My understanding and experience.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

> > > wrote:

> > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > Namaste,

> > > > >

> > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> > mostly

> > > > > follows BPHS. In the

> > > > > given chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a

> > > purer

> > > > > sense the the

> > > > > presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can

> > > > > potentially nullify the

> > > > > yoga. Try to use your own understanding and

> > > > > experience, The List of

> > > > > Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Warm Regards

> > > > > Sanjay P

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , Venkatesh S

> > > > > <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show

> > Sarpa

> > > > > Yoga for the following

> > > > > > details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of

> > > birth

> > > > > has malefics three

> > > > > > kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun).

> > > > > > October 23,2005

> > > > > > 13:56:18

> > > > > > 5:30 East

> > > > > > Place:New Delhi India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

>

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Om gurave Namah

 

Dear Venkatesh,

 

For the purpose of nabhaasa yogas only three " bodied "

malefics, namely Sun, Mars and Saturn are reckoned.

The chaya grahas, Rahu & ketu are not considered.

 

regards,

Lakshmi

--- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

 

> |JAI SRIRAM|

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> There are five malefics namely Sun,Mars,Saturn,Rahu

> and Ketu.Jhora

> supports three kendras or more occupied by malefics.

>

> Thanks,

> S.Venkatesh

>

>

> --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> wrote:

>

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Venkatesh,

> >

> > There could be some discrepancy in the software,

> > because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7

> planets,

> > yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora seems

> to

> > include Rahu & ketu.

> >

> > On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300

> important

> > combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

> > kendras include lagna also, but the definition is

> > limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

> > benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a kendra

> > each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa yoga.

> Moon

> > is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no

> difference

> > to the yoga(s).

> >

> > Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am sure

> > Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> wrote:

> >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > >

> > > Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure among

> the

> > > yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

> > > Parasara,

> > > when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7 and

> > > 10th

> > > houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both

> a

> > > kendra and a kona.

> > >

> > > In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in lagna,

> so

> > > the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

> > > leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also

> situated

> > > in

> > > lagna?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > >

> > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you very much for your

> reply

> > > and

> > > > the quotes from

> > > > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of

> > > BPHS

> > > > and unable to

> > > > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the

> > > soft

> > > > copy " Ch. 35.

> > > > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3

> > > Kendras

> > > > are occupied by

> > > > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics

> so

> > > > placed will cause

> > > > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas,

> respectively,

> > > > produce benefic and

> > > > malefic results " .

> > > > I don't think Jhora follows the

> > > book

> > > > you had mentioned

> > > > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows

> Sarpa

> > > > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> > > > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa

> yoga.In

> > > > my chart Venus in

> > > > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa

> > > yoga

> > > > still Jhora shows

> > > > Sarpa Yoga.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > >

> > > > --- lakshmi ramesh

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page

> 497-Vol

> > > > I),

> > > > > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only

> > > formed

> > > > if

> > > > > there are malefics in 3 angles and no

> benefic in

> > > > any

> > > > > angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury

> are

> > > > in an

> > > > > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there

> is no

> > > > sarpa

> > > > > yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> > > mostly

> > > > > > follows BPHS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Have you seen my previous question? That

> is

> > > why

> > > > i

> > > > > > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the given chart, Moon is partially

> benefic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon

> and

> > > > > > mercury in quadrant can potentially

> nullify

> > > the

> > > > > > yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora

> > > > supports

> > > > > > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try to use your own understanding and

> > > > experience,

> > > > > > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be

> used

> > > for

> > > > > > pointers.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the

> > > Sarpa

> > > > > > Yoga for the given birth details and it is

> not

> > > a

> > > > > > question of My understanding and

> experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sanjayprabhakaran

> <sanjaychettiar

>

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Dear Venketesh,

 

can I have your birth details.

 

 

Pranaam

 

Ajay

 

 

sohamsa , lakshmi ramesh

<b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> Om gurave Namah

>

> Dear Venkatesh,

>

> For the purpose of nabhaasa yogas only three " bodied "

> malefics, namely Sun, Mars and Saturn are reckoned.

> The chaya grahas, Rahu & ketu are not considered.

>

> regards,

> Lakshmi

> --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk> wrote:

>

> > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > Dear Lakshmi,

> >

> > There are five malefics namely Sun,Mars,Saturn,Rahu

> > and Ketu.Jhora

> > supports three kendras or more occupied by malefics.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > S.Venkatesh

> >

> >

> > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > >

> > > There could be some discrepancy in the software,

> > > because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7

> > planets,

> > > yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora seems

> > to

> > > include Rahu & ketu.

> > >

> > > On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300

> > important

> > > combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

> > > kendras include lagna also, but the definition is

> > > limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

> > > benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a kendra

> > > each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa yoga.

> > Moon

> > > is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no

> > difference

> > > to the yoga(s).

> > >

> > > Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am sure

> > > Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure among

> > the

> > > > yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

> > > > Parasara,

> > > > when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7 and

> > > > 10th

> > > > houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both

> > a

> > > > kendra and a kona.

> > > >

> > > > In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in lagna,

> > so

> > > > the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

> > > > leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also

> > situated

> > > > in

> > > > lagna?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you very much for your

> > reply

> > > > and

> > > > > the quotes from

> > > > > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of

> > > > BPHS

> > > > > and unable to

> > > > > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the

> > > > soft

> > > > > copy " Ch. 35.

> > > > > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3

> > > > Kendras

> > > > > are occupied by

> > > > > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics

> > so

> > > > > placed will cause

> > > > > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas,

> > respectively,

> > > > > produce benefic and

> > > > > malefic results " .

> > > > > I don't think Jhora follows the

> > > > book

> > > > > you had mentioned

> > > > > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows

> > Sarpa

> > > > > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> > > > > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa

> > yoga.In

> > > > > my chart Venus in

> > > > > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa

> > > > yoga

> > > > > still Jhora shows

> > > > > Sarpa Yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > >

> > > > > --- lakshmi ramesh

> > <b_lakshmi_ramesh>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page

> > 497-Vol

> > > > > I),

> > > > > > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only

> > > > formed

> > > > > if

> > > > > > there are malefics in 3 angles and no

> > benefic in

> > > > > any

> > > > > > angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury

> > are

> > > > > in an

> > > > > > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there

> > is no

> > > > > sarpa

> > > > > > yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> > > > mostly

> > > > > > > follows BPHS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Have you seen my previous question? That

> > is

> > > > why

> > > > > i

> > > > > > > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the given chart, Moon is partially

> > benefic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon

> > and

> > > > > > > mercury in quadrant can potentially

> > nullify

> > > > the

> > > > > > > yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora

> > > > > supports

> > > > > > > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Try to use your own understanding and

> > > > > experience,

> > > > > > > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be

> > used

> > > > for

> > > > > > > pointers.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the

> > > > Sarpa

> > > > > > > Yoga for the given birth details and it is

> > not

> > > > a

> > > > > > > question of My understanding and

> > experience.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sanjayprabhakaran

> > <sanjaychettiar@g...>

> >

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dear lakshmiji and venkateshji,

 

jhora does not show sarpa yoga for the attached chart also, but one of the

learned members from this forum has informed me that the native has sarpa

dosha. can you clarify the same?

 

tvr

9422203510

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf

Of lakshmi ramesh

Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:19 PM

sohamsa

Re: Re: Sarpa Yoga

 

 

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Venkatesh,

 

There could be some discrepancy in the software,

because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7 planets,

yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora seems to

include Rahu & ketu.

 

On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300 important

combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

kendras include lagna also, but the definition is

limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a kendra

each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa yoga. Moon

is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no difference

to the yoga(s).

 

Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am sure

Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

--- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

 

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Venkatesh,

>

> Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure among the

> yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

> Parasara,

> when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7 and

> 10th

> houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both a

> kendra and a kona.

>

> In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in lagna, so

> the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

> leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also situated

> in

> lagna?

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

>

> --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

>

> > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > Dear Lakshmi,

> >

> > Thank you very much for your reply

> and

> > the quotes from

> > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of

> BPHS

> > and unable to

> > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the

> soft

> > copy " Ch. 35.

> > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3

> Kendras

> > are occupied by

> > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics so

> > placed will cause

> > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas, respectively,

> > produce benefic and

> > malefic results " .

> > I don't think Jhora follows the

> book

> > you had mentioned

> > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows Sarpa

> > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa yoga.In

> > my chart Venus in

> > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa

> yoga

> > still Jhora shows

> > Sarpa Yoga.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > S.Venkatesh

> >

> > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > >

> > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol

> > I),

> > > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only

> formed

> > if

> > > there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in

> > any

> > > angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are

> > in an

> > > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no

> > sarpa

> > > yoga.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > >

> > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> mostly

> > > > follows BPHS.

> > > >

> > > > Have you seen my previous question? That is

> why

> > i

> > > > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

> > > >

> > > > In the given chart, Moon is partially benefic.

> > > >

> > > > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

> > > >

> > > > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon and

> > > > mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify

> the

> > > > yoga.

> > > >

> > > > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora

> > supports

> > > > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

> > > >

> > > > Try to use your own understanding and

> > experience,

> > > > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be used

> for

> > > > pointers.

> > > >

> > > > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the

> Sarpa

> > > > Yoga for the given birth details and it is not

> a

> > > > question of My understanding and experience.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

> > wrote:

> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> mostly

> > > > follows BPHS. In the

> > > > given chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a

> > purer

> > > > sense the the

> > > > presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can

> > > > potentially nullify the

> > > > yoga. Try to use your own understanding and

> > > > experience, The List of

> > > > Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.

> > > >

> > > > Warm Regards

> > > > Sanjay P

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , Venkatesh S

> > > > <ksvssvk> wrote:

> > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > > >

> > > > > Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show

> Sarpa

> > > > Yoga for the following

> > > > > details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of

> > birth

> > > > has malefics three

> > > > > kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun).

> > > > > October 23,2005

> > > > > 13:56:18

> > > > > 5:30 East

> > > > > Place:New Delhi India

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> >

> __

> > > > > Start your day with - make it your

> home

> > > > page

> > > > > http://www./r/hs

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > *tat savitur varenyam*

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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|JAI SRIRAM|

Dear Lakshmi,

 

Are you sure? In BPHS it is only mentioned about malefics.How

Pt.Sanjay horoscope gets Sarpa Yoga?Do you want many more charts i

will give you.

 

Thanks,

S.Venkatesh

 

--- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

 

> Om gurave Namah

>

> Dear Venkatesh,

>

> For the purpose of nabhaasa yogas only three " bodied "

> malefics, namely Sun, Mars and Saturn are reckoned.

> The chaya grahas, Rahu & ketu are not considered.

>

> regards,

> Lakshmi

> --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

>

> > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > Dear Lakshmi,

> >

> > There are five malefics namely Sun,Mars,Saturn,Rahu

> > and Ketu.Jhora

> > supports three kendras or more occupied by malefics.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > S.Venkatesh

> >

> >

> > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > >

> > > There could be some discrepancy in the software,

> > > because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7

> > planets,

> > > yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora seems

> > to

> > > include Rahu & ketu.

> > >

> > > On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300

> > important

> > > combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

> > > kendras include lagna also, but the definition is

> > > limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

> > > benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a kendra

> > > each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa yoga.

> > Moon

> > > is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no

> > difference

> > > to the yoga(s).

> > >

> > > Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am sure

> > > Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure among

> > the

> > > > yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

> > > > Parasara,

> > > > when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7 and

> > > > 10th

> > > > houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both

> > a

> > > > kendra and a kona.

> > > >

> > > > In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in lagna,

> > so

> > > > the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

> > > > leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also

> > situated

> > > > in

> > > > lagna?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you very much for your

> > reply

> > > > and

> > > > > the quotes from

> > > > > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of

> > > > BPHS

> > > > > and unable to

> > > > > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the

> > > > soft

> > > > > copy " Ch. 35.

> > > > > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3

> > > > Kendras

> > > > > are occupied by

> > > > > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics

> > so

> > > > > placed will cause

> > > > > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas,

> > respectively,

> > > > > produce benefic and

> > > > > malefic results " .

> > > > > I don't think Jhora follows the

> > > > book

> > > > > you had mentioned

> > > > > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows

> > Sarpa

> > > > > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> > > > > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa

> > yoga.In

> > > > > my chart Venus in

> > > > > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa

> > > > yoga

> > > > > still Jhora shows

> > > > > Sarpa Yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > >

> > > > > --- lakshmi ramesh

> > <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page

> > 497-Vol

> > > > > I),

> > > > > > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only

> > > > formed

> > > > > if

> > > > > > there are malefics in 3 angles and no

> > benefic in

> > > > > any

> > > > > > angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury

> > are

> > > > > in an

> > > > > > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there

> > is no

> > > > > sarpa

> > > > > > yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> > > > mostly

> > > > > > > follows BPHS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Have you seen my previous question? That

> > is

> > > > why

> > > > > i

> > > > > > > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the given chart, Moon is partially

> > benefic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon

> > and

> > > > > > > mercury in quadrant can potentially

> > nullify

> > > > the

> > > > > > > yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora

> > > > > supports

> > > > > > > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Try to use your own understanding and

> > > > > experience,

> > > > > > > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be

> > used

> > > > for

> > > > > > > pointers.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the

> > > > Sarpa

> > > > > > > Yoga for the given birth details and it is

> > not

> > > > a

> > > > > > > question of My understanding and

> > experience.

>

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Dear Rao,

 

This chart has no Sarpa Yoga,but it has Kala Amirta Yoga.

 

Thanks,

S.Venkatesh

 

--- tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote:

 

> dear lakshmiji and venkateshji,

>

> jhora does not show sarpa yoga for the attached chart also, but one

> of the

> learned members from this forum has informed me that the native has

> sarpa

> dosha. can you clarify the same?

>

> tvr

> 9422203510

>

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ]On

> Behalf

> Of lakshmi ramesh

> Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:19 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: Sarpa Yoga

>

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Venkatesh,

>

> There could be some discrepancy in the software,

> because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7 planets,

> yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora seems to

> include Rahu & ketu.

>

> On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300 important

> combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

> kendras include lagna also, but the definition is

> limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

> benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a kendra

> each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa yoga. Moon

> is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no difference

> to the yoga(s).

>

> Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am sure

> Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

> --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Venkatesh,

> >

> > Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure among the

> > yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

> > Parasara,

> > when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7 and

> > 10th

> > houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both a

> > kendra and a kona.

> >

> > In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in lagna, so

> > the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

> > leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also situated

> > in

> > lagna?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> >

> > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > >

> > > Thank you very much for your reply

> > and

> > > the quotes from

> > > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of

> > BPHS

> > > and unable to

> > > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the

> > soft

> > > copy " Ch. 35.

> > > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3

> > Kendras

> > > are occupied by

> > > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics so

> > > placed will cause

> > > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas, respectively,

> > > produce benefic and

> > > malefic results " .

> > > I don't think Jhora follows the

> > book

> > > you had mentioned

> > > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows Sarpa

> > > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> > > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa yoga.In

> > > my chart Venus in

> > > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa

> > yoga

> > > still Jhora shows

> > > Sarpa Yoga.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > S.Venkatesh

> > >

> > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > >

> > > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol

> > > I),

> > > > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only

> > formed

> > > if

> > > > there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in

> > > any

> > > > angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are

> > > in an

> > > > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no

> > > sarpa

> > > > yoga.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> > mostly

> > > > > follows BPHS.

> > > > >

> > > > > Have you seen my previous question? That is

> > why

> > > i

> > > > > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the given chart, Moon is partially benefic.

> > > > >

> > > > > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

> > > > >

> > > > > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon and

> > > > > mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify

> > the

> > > > > yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora

> > > supports

> > > > > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

> > > > >

> > > > > Try to use your own understanding and

> > > experience,

> > > > > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be used

> > for

> > > > > pointers.

> > > > >

> > > > > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the

> > Sarpa

> > > > > Yoga for the given birth details and it is not

> > a

> > > > > question of My understanding and experience.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

> > > wrote:

> > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > Namaste,

> > > > >

> > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> > mostly

> > > > > follows BPHS. In the

> > > > > given chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a

> > > purer

> > > > > sense the the

> > > > > presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can

> > > > > potentially nullify the

> > > > > yoga. Try to use your own understanding and

> > > > > experience, The List of

> > > > > Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Warm Regards

> > > > > Sanjay P

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , Venkatesh S

>

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Dear friends,

 

I guess all of us have Sanjayji's chart. Please check

out Daama/Damini yoga (a nabhasa yoga) in his chart,

which talks about ALL 7 planets in 6 houses and not

about 9 planets in 8 houses.

 

Please refer to page 335 of Brihat jataka (translated

by sri suryanarain Rao)and page 125 of 300 Important

combinations authored by Sri BV Raman. what I had

expressed earlier is not my view but of that of those

illustrious authors.

 

Ofcourse, there might be some exceptions about which i

am not aware of. I also eagerly await the comments

from the gurus.

 

regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

--- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

 

> |JAI SRIRAM|

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> Are you sure? In BPHS it is only mentioned about

> malefics.How

> Pt.Sanjay horoscope gets Sarpa Yoga?Do you want many

> more charts i

> will give you.

>

> Thanks,

> S.Venkatesh

>

> --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> wrote:

>

> > Om gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear Venkatesh,

> >

> > For the purpose of nabhaasa yogas only three

> " bodied "

> > malefics, namely Sun, Mars and Saturn are

> reckoned.

> > The chaya grahas, Rahu & ketu are not considered.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lakshmi

> > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> >

> > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > >

> > > There are five malefics namely

> Sun,Mars,Saturn,Rahu

> > > and Ketu.Jhora

> > > supports three kendras or more occupied by

> malefics.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > S.Venkatesh

> > >

> > >

> > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > >

> > > > There could be some discrepancy in the

> software,

> > > > because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7

> > > planets,

> > > > yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora

> seems

> > > to

> > > > include Rahu & ketu.

> > > >

> > > > On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300

> > > important

> > > > combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

>

> > > > kendras include lagna also, but the definition

> is

> > > > limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

> > > > benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a

> kendra

> > > > each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa

> yoga.

> > > Moon

> > > > is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no

> > > difference

> > > > to the yoga(s).

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am

> sure

> > > > Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > > --- lakshmi ramesh

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure

> among

> > > the

> > > > > yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

> > > > > Parasara,

> > > > > when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7

> and

> > > > > 10th

> > > > > houses and not the lagna, because lagna is

> both

> > > a

> > > > > kendra and a kona.

> > > > >

> > > > > In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in

> lagna,

> > > so

> > > > > the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by

> malefics,

> > > > > leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also

> > > situated

> > > > > in

> > > > > lagna?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you very much for your

> > > reply

> > > > > and

> > > > > > the quotes from

> > > > > > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft

> copies of

> > > > > BPHS

> > > > > > and unable to

> > > > > > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In

> the

> > > > > soft

> > > > > > copy " Ch. 35.

> > > > > > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If

> 3

> > > > > Kendras

> > > > > > are occupied by

> > > > > > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while

> malefics

> > > so

> > > > > > placed will cause

> > > > > > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas,

> > > respectively,

> > > > > > produce benefic and

> > > > > > malefic results " .

> > > > > > I don't think Jhora follows

> the

> > > > > book

> > > > > > you had mentioned

> > > > > > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows

> > > Sarpa

> > > > > > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> > > > > > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa

> > > yoga.In

> > > > > > my chart Venus in

> > > > > > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha

> purusa

> > > > > yoga

> > > > > > still Jhora shows

> > > > > > Sarpa Yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- lakshmi ramesh

> > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page

> > > 497-Vol

> > > > > > I),

> > > > > > > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is

> only

> > > > > formed

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > there are malefics in 3 angles and no

> > > benefic in

> > > > > > any

> > > > > > > angle. For the given data, jupiter &

> mercury

> > > are

> > > > > > in an

> > > > > > > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence

> there

> > > is no

> > > > > > sarpa

> > > > > > > yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

>

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Dear Lakshmi,

 

In BPHS it is very clear that three kendras

occupied by malefics Sarpa Yoga exists.If we go further to other

classics then definition may differ.From Kalyana Varmas Saravali

Ch21;Nabhasa yogas 18.Asraya and dala yogas Sarpa Yoga exists if all

the angles are occupied by malefics.For Jhora look at the brief

description about Sarpa Yoga in the yoga section.

 

Thanks,

S.Venkatesh

 

--- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

 

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Dear friends,

>

> I guess all of us have Sanjayji's chart. Please check

> out Daama/Damini yoga (a nabhasa yoga) in his chart,

> which talks about ALL 7 planets in 6 houses and not

> about 9 planets in 8 houses.

>

> Please refer to page 335 of Brihat jataka (translated

> by sri suryanarain Rao)and page 125 of 300 Important

> combinations authored by Sri BV Raman. what I had

> expressed earlier is not my view but of that of those

> illustrious authors.

>

> Ofcourse, there might be some exceptions about which i

> am not aware of. I also eagerly await the comments

> from the gurus.

>

> regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

> --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

>

> > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > Dear Lakshmi,

> >

> > Are you sure? In BPHS it is only mentioned about

> > malefics.How

> > Pt.Sanjay horoscope gets Sarpa Yoga?Do you want many

> > more charts i

> > will give you.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > S.Venkatesh

> >

> > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Om gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Dear Venkatesh,

> > >

> > > For the purpose of nabhaasa yogas only three

> > " bodied "

> > > malefics, namely Sun, Mars and Saturn are

> > reckoned.

> > > The chaya grahas, Rahu & ketu are not considered.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > >

> > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > >

> > > > There are five malefics namely

> > Sun,Mars,Saturn,Rahu

> > > > and Ketu.Jhora

> > > > supports three kendras or more occupied by

> > malefics.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > There could be some discrepancy in the

> > software,

> > > > > because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7

> > > > planets,

> > > > > yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora

> > seems

> > > > to

> > > > > include Rahu & ketu.

> > > > >

> > > > > On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300

> > > > important

> > > > > combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

> >

> > > > > kendras include lagna also, but the definition

> > is

> > > > > limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

> > > > > benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a

> > kendra

> > > > > each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa

> > yoga.

> > > > Moon

> > > > > is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no

> > > > difference

> > > > > to the yoga(s).

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am

> > sure

> > > > > Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > --- lakshmi ramesh

> > <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure

> > among

> > > > the

> > > > > > yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

> > > > > > Parasara,

> > > > > > when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7

> > and

> > > > > > 10th

> > > > > > houses and not the lagna, because lagna is

> > both

> > > > a

> > > > > > kendra and a kona.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in

> > lagna,

> > > > so

> > > > > > the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by

> > malefics,

> > > > > > leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also

> > > > situated

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > lagna?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you very much for your

> > > > reply

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > the quotes from

> > > > > > > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft

> > copies of

> > > > > > BPHS

> > > > > > > and unable to

> > > > > > > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In

> > the

> > > > > > soft

> > > > > > > copy " Ch. 35.

> > > > > > > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If

> > 3

> > > > > > Kendras

> > > > > > > are occupied by

> > > > > > > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while

> > malefics

> > > > so

> > > > > > > placed will cause

> > > > > > > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas,

> > > > respectively,

> > > > > > > produce benefic and

> > > > > > > malefic results " .

> > > > > > > I don't think Jhora follows

> > the

> > > > > > book

> > > > > > > you had mentioned

> > > > > > > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows

> > > > Sarpa

> > > > > > > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> > > > > > > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa

> > > > yoga.In

> > > > > > > my chart Venus in

> > > > > > > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha

> > purusa

> > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > still Jhora shows

> > > > > > > Sarpa Yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- lakshmi ramesh

> > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page

> > > > 497-Vol

>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Venkatesh,

 

Have you checked up the daama/daamini yoga in Guruji's

chart as i have requested?

 

It is clearly mentioned in BPHS that Rahu & Ketu have

no independent existence and give/modify the results

of either Saturn or Mars respectively or the lords of

the houses they inhabit, which ultimately boils down

to 7 planets again...those which are seen in the

" nabha " or sky.

 

However, I hope the following links & extracts clarify

things better.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

1)from the link

http://www.vedic astrology.net/nabhasa%20yogas%20main.htm

 

“Nabhasa” means celestial or heavenly. Nabhasa Yogas

refer to the arrangement of all seven of the planets

in the celestial realm. What is unique about the

Nabhasa Yogas is that all seven of the visible planets

are considered in the formation of these yogas,

leaving aside Rahu and Ketu. These yogas, therefore,

indicate the overall effects of the focus of the

energies of all the planets, and not just a few. This

makes them of the utmost importance in establishing a

foundation to the horoscope. All the important

classical works on Astrology give the Nabhasa Yogas

first, before other yogas, as they reveal the effects

inherent within the structure of the horoscope. Even

Brihat Jataka, known for its brevity and containing

only the most essential components of astrology,

devotes an entire chapter to Nabhasa Yogas. Their

importance, therefore, must not be overlooked.

 

2) From the link:

http://.org/jyotishdigest/Vol3%20Issue1/volume3issue1.htm

 

The word “Nabhasa” means the sky. As such, the Yogas

are formed in the sky with the help of all the three

constituents, namely all the seven planets (excluding

Rahu and Ketu), all the 12 signs and the 12 houses

(including all shodhas vargas - 16 divisional charts),

are called the Nabhasa Yogas. In these Yogas, all

seven planets participate simultaneously .

 

3) From the link:

 

http://.org/jyotishdigest/Vol3%20Issue1/nabhasayoga2.htm

 

(ii) Bhujang (Sarpa) Yoga: If all the malefics occupy

three angular houses and the benefics are placed in

houses other than the angular ones, Bhujang (Sarpa)

Yoga is formed.

Effects: The native born in Sarpa Yoga will be a

crook, cruel, endowed with self-inflicted poverty,

always surrounded with miseries of all kinds, and

always looking to enjoy others' food and drink.

Such Yogas are rarely formed. There are only two

malefics Saturn and Mars. When Saturn and Mars are in

an angular position and the third angle is joined by

Sun (not conjunct with Mercury or Venus), only then

this yoga is formed.

( This Yoga is of a common occurrence in horoscopes

and yields to adverse results if Rahu and Ketu are

placed in 4 th and 10 th houses, though it may not

fall in the category of Nabhas yoga ).

The Sarpa yoga generates extreme passion and greed.

The other features are already discussed under Maala

Yoga.

 

 

 

--- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

 

> |JAI SRIRAM|

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> In BPHS it is very clear that

> three kendras

> occupied by malefics Sarpa Yoga exists.If we go

> further to other

> classics then definition may differ.From Kalyana

> Varmas Saravali

> Ch21;Nabhasa yogas 18.Asraya and dala yogas Sarpa

> Yoga exists if all

> the angles are occupied by malefics.For Jhora look

> at the brief

> description about Sarpa Yoga in the yoga section.

>

> Thanks,

> S.Venkatesh

>

> --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> wrote:

>

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > I guess all of us have Sanjayji's chart. Please

> check

> > out Daama/Damini yoga (a nabhasa yoga) in his

> chart,

> > which talks about ALL 7 planets in 6 houses and

> not

> > about 9 planets in 8 houses.

> >

> > Please refer to page 335 of Brihat jataka

> (translated

> > by sri suryanarain Rao)and page 125 of 300

> Important

> > combinations authored by Sri BV Raman. what I had

> > expressed earlier is not my view but of that of

> those

> > illustrious authors.

> >

> > Ofcourse, there might be some exceptions about

> which i

> > am not aware of. I also eagerly await the comments

> > from the gurus.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> >

> > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > >

> > > Are you sure? In BPHS it is only mentioned

> about

> > > malefics.How

> > > Pt.Sanjay horoscope gets Sarpa Yoga?Do you want

> many

> > > more charts i

> > > will give you.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > S.Venkatesh

> > >

> > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Om gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Dear Venkatesh,

> > > >

> > > > For the purpose of nabhaasa yogas only three

> > > " bodied "

> > > > malefics, namely Sun, Mars and Saturn are

> > > reckoned.

> > > > The chaya grahas, Rahu & ketu are not

> considered.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > >

> > > > > There are five malefics namely

> > > Sun,Mars,Saturn,Rahu

> > > > > and Ketu.Jhora

> > > > > supports three kendras or more occupied by

> > > malefics.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- lakshmi ramesh

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There could be some discrepancy in the

> > > software,

> > > > > > because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7

> > > > > planets,

> > > > > > yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora

> > > seems

> > > > > to

> > > > > > include Rahu & ketu.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300

> > > > > important

> > > > > > combinations)I realise my earlier mistake.

> The

> > >

> > > > > > kendras include lagna also, but the

> definition

> > > is

> > > > > > limited to 3 kendras because there are

> only 3

> > > > > > benefics/malefics and they need to occupy

> a

> > > kendra

> > > > > > each, exclusively, to form

> srik(mala)/sarpa

> > > yoga.

> > > > > Moon

> > > > > > is neither benefic nor malefic and makes

> no

> > > > > difference

> > > > > > to the yoga(s).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for this learning opportunity and I

> am

> > > sure

> > > > > > Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > --- lakshmi ramesh

> > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does

> figure

> > > among

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is

> that

> > > > > > > Parasara,

> > > > > > > when referring to " kendra traya " meant

> 4, 7

> > > and

> > > > > > > 10th

> > > > > > > houses and not the lagna, because lagna

> is

> > > both

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > kendra and a kona.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed

> in

> > > lagna,

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by

> > > malefics,

> > > > > > > leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus

> also

> > > > > situated

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > lagna?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you very much for

> your

> > > > > reply

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > the quotes from

> > > > > > > > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft

> > > copies of

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Dear Lakshmi ji,

 

Everyone who taught me Sarpa yoga included nodes in it.

 

Not all naabhasa yogas exclude nodes. Sarpa yoga includes nodes too.

 

What do you mean by Moon is neither a benefic nor a malefic??? Of course,

Moon is either a malefic or a benefic based on the day. Parasara clearly

taught that.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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" Venkatesh S " <ksvssvk

<sohamsa >

Cc: <pvr

Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:01 AM

Re: Re: Sarpa Yoga

 

 

> |JAI SRIRAM|

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> There are five malefics namely Sun,Mars,Saturn,Rahu and Ketu.Jhora

> supports three kendras or more occupied by malefics.

>

> Thanks,

> S.Venkatesh

>

>

> --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>

>> Om Gurave Namah

>>

>> Namaste Venkatesh,

>>

>> There could be some discrepancy in the software,

>> because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7 planets,

>> yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora seems to

>> include Rahu & ketu.

>>

>> On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300 important

>> combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

>> kendras include lagna also, but the definition is

>> limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

>> benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a kendra

>> each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa yoga. Moon

>> is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no difference

>> to the yoga(s).

>>

>> Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am sure

>> Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

>>

>> Regards,

>> Lakshmi

>> --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>>

>> > Om Gurave Namah

>> >

>> > Namaste Venkatesh,

>> >

>> > Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure among the

>> > yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

>> > Parasara,

>> > when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7 and

>> > 10th

>> > houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both a

>> > kendra and a kona.

>> >

>> > In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in lagna, so

>> > the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

>> > leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also situated

>> > in

>> > lagna?

>> >

>> > Regards,

>> > Lakshmi

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

>> >

>> > > |JAI SRIRAM|

>> > > Dear Lakshmi,

>> > >

>> > > Thank you very much for your reply

>> > and

>> > > the quotes from

>> > > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of

>> > BPHS

>> > > and unable to

>> > > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In the

>> > soft

>> > > copy " Ch. 35.

>> > > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3

>> > Kendras

>> > > are occupied by

>> > > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics so

>> > > placed will cause

>> > > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas, respectively,

>> > > produce benefic and

>> > > malefic results " .

>> > > I don't think Jhora follows the

>> > book

>> > > you had mentioned

>> > > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows Sarpa

>> > > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

>> > > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa yoga.In

>> > > my chart Venus in

>> > > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa

>> > yoga

>> > > still Jhora shows

>> > > Sarpa Yoga.

>> > >

>> > > Thanks,

>> > > S.Venkatesh

>> > >

>> > > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

>> > > wrote:

>> > >

>> > > > Om Gurave Namah

>> > > >

>> > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

>> > > >

>> > > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol

>> > > I),

>> > > > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only

>> > formed

>> > > if

>> > > > there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in

>> > > any

>> > > > angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are

>> > > in an

>> > > > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no

>> > > sarpa

>> > > > yoga.

>> > > >

>> > > > regards,

>> > > > Lakshmi

>> > > >

>> > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

>> > > >

>> > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

>> > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

>> > mostly

>> > > > > follows BPHS.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Have you seen my previous question? That is

>> > why

>> > > i

>> > > > > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > In the given chart, Moon is partially benefic.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?

>> > > > >

>> > > > > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon and

>> > > > > mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify

>> > the

>> > > > > yoga.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora

>> > > supports

>> > > > > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Try to use your own understanding and

>> > > experience,

>> > > > > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be used

>> > for

>> > > > > pointers.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the

>> > Sarpa

>> > > > > Yoga for the given birth details and it is not

>> > a

>> > > > > question of My understanding and experience.

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Thanks,

>> > > > >

>> > > > > S.Venkatesh

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar

>> > > wrote:

>> > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

>> > > > > Namaste,

>> > > > >

>> > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

>> > mostly

>> > > > > follows BPHS. In the

>> > > > > given chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a

>> > > purer

>> > > > > sense the the

>> > > > > presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can

>> > > > > potentially nullify the

>> > > > > yoga. Try to use your own understanding and

>> > > > > experience, The List of

>> > > > > Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Warm Regards

>> > > > > Sanjay P

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > > sohamsa , Venkatesh S

>> > > > > <ksvssvk> wrote:

>> > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

>> > > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show

>> > Sarpa

>> > > > > Yoga for the following

>> > > > > > details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of

>> > > birth

>> > > > > has malefics three

>> > > > > > kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun).

>> > > > > > October 23,2005

>> > > > > > 13:56:18

>> > > > > > 5:30 East

>> > > > > > Place:New Delhi India

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Thanks,

>> > > > > > S.Venkatesh

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

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Dear

List, Namaskar

Ok! What is

the meaning of having a Sarpa Yoga? The Yoga goes to describe that 3 of the 4

houses in Kendra should be occupied by malefics to form Sarpa Yoga. This means

that among the four pillars of your life, three of them should be under malefic

influence.

Now when

you learn about Kendras for the first time, you learn that they are your

immediete support in life, and you tend to take on the characteristics of each

of the houses in kendra, when you are in their mode of activity. This is unlike

the other bhavas where a mere emotion is carried with them.

So, if a

person has a malefic in the lagna their own nature is malefic. If a person has

a malefic in the fourth house, then due to the impact of their childhood they

behave like that malefic, i.e. saturn in the fourth house makes a person

sorrowful and cold.

You can

make out the other houses easily. This is also written in my book.

So when we

go to define what is malefic enough to cause Sarpa Yoga, surely it must be

planets which make us act badly. So without doubt nodes, Saturn and Mars fall

into this category. The Sun in the kendras makes a person quite arrogant, but

sattva guna dominates in the Sun, and hence most people don’t really

accept his as a real malefic, but definitely a krura graha.

Either way,

try to understand what is happening in a Sarpa Yoga – the person is being

provoked to act like the malefics when they approach the particular bhava. So

even a temporary Sarpa Yoga happens when you go to work, if you have malefics

in the tenth house.

There is

more to Sarpa Yoga such as excess passions and whether these are malefic or

benefic passions. But the definition of what is happening to the individual

should be clear.

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[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

lakshmi ramesh

24 August 2005 20:21

sohamsa

Re: Re: Sarpa

Yoga

 

 

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Venkatesh,

 

Have you checked up the daama/daamini yoga in

Guruji's

chart as i have requested?

 

It is clearly mentioned in BPHS that Rahu &

Ketu have

no independent existence and give/modify the

results

of either Saturn or Mars respectively or the lords

of

the houses they inhabit, which ultimately boils

down

to 7 planets again...those which are seen in the

" nabha " or sky.

 

However, I hope the following links & extracts

clarify

things better.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

1)from the link

http://www.vedic astrology.net/nabhasa%20yogas%20main.htm

 

“Nabhasa” means celestial or heavenly.

Nabhasa Yogas

refer to the arrangement of all seven of the

planets

in the celestial realm. What is unique about the

Nabhasa Yogas is that all seven of the visible

planets

are considered in the formation of these yogas,

leaving aside Rahu and Ketu. These yogas,

therefore,

indicate the overall effects of the focus of the

energies of all the planets, and not just a few.

This

makes them of the utmost importance in

establishing a

foundation to the horoscope. All the important

classical works on Astrology give the Nabhasa

Yogas

first, before other yogas, as they reveal the

effects

inherent within the structure of the horoscope.

Even

Brihat Jataka, known for its brevity and containing

only the most essential components of astrology,

devotes an entire chapter to Nabhasa Yogas. Their

importance, therefore, must not be overlooked.

 

2) From the link:

http://.org/jyotishdigest/Vol3%20Issue1/volume3issue1.htm

 

The word “Nabhasa” means the sky. As

such, the Yogas

are formed in the sky with the help of all the

three

constituents, namely all the seven planets

(excluding

Rahu and Ketu), all the 12 signs and the 12 houses

(including all shodhas vargas - 16 divisional

charts),

are called the Nabhasa Yogas. In these Yogas, all

seven planets participate simultaneously .

 

3) From the link:

 

http://.org/jyotishdigest/Vol3%20Issue1/nabhasayoga2.htm

 

(ii) Bhujang (Sarpa) Yoga: If all the malefics

occupy

three angular houses and the benefics are placed

in

houses other than the angular ones, Bhujang

(Sarpa)

Yoga is formed.

Effects: The native born in Sarpa Yoga will be a

crook, cruel, endowed with self-inflicted poverty,

always surrounded with miseries of all kinds, and

always looking to enjoy others' food and drink.

Such Yogas are rarely formed. There are only two

malefics Saturn and Mars. When Saturn and Mars are

in

an angular position and the third angle is joined

by

Sun (not conjunct with Mercury or Venus), only

then

this yoga is formed.

( This Yoga is of a common occurrence in

horoscopes

and yields to adverse results if Rahu and Ketu are

placed in 4 th and 10 th houses, though it may not

fall in the category of Nabhas yoga ).

The Sarpa yoga generates extreme passion and

greed.

The other features are already discussed under

Maala

Yoga.

 

 

 

--- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

 

> |JAI SRIRAM|

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

>

In BPHS it is very clear that

> three kendras

> occupied by malefics Sarpa Yoga exists.If we

go

> further to other

> classics then definition may differ.From

Kalyana

> Varmas Saravali

> Ch21;Nabhasa yogas 18.Asraya and dala yogas

Sarpa

> Yoga exists if all

> the angles are occupied by malefics.For Jhora

look

> at the brief

> description about Sarpa Yoga in the yoga

section.

>

> Thanks,

> S.Venkatesh

>

> --- lakshmi ramesh

<b_lakshmi_ramesh

> wrote:

>

> > Om

Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > I guess all of us have Sanjayji's chart.

Please

> check

> > out Daama/Damini yoga (a nabhasa yoga)

in his

> chart,

> > which talks about ALL 7 planets in 6 houses and

> not

> > about 9 planets in 8 houses.

> >

> > Please refer to page 335 of Brihat

jataka

> (translated

> > by sri suryanarain Rao)and page 125 of

300

> Important

> > combinations authored by Sri BV Raman.

what I had

> > expressed earlier is not my view but of

that of

> those

> > illustrious authors.

> >

> > Ofcourse, there might be some exceptions

about

> which i

> > am not aware of. I also eagerly await

the comments

> > from the gurus.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Venkatesh S

<ksvssvk wrote:

> >

> > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > >

> > > Are you sure? In BPHS it is

only mentioned

> about

> > > malefics.How

> > > Pt.Sanjay horoscope gets Sarpa

Yoga?Do you want

> many

> > > more charts i

> > > will give you.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > S.Venkatesh

> > >

> > > --- lakshmi ramesh

<b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Om

gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Dear Venkatesh,

> > > >

> > > > For the purpose of nabhaasa

yogas only three

> > > " bodied "

> > > > malefics, namely Sun, Mars and

Saturn are

> > > reckoned.

> > > > The chaya grahas, Rahu &

ketu are not

> considered.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > > --- Venkatesh S

<ksvssvk wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > >

> > > > > There are five malefics

namely

> > > Sun,Mars,Saturn,Rahu

> > > > > and Ketu.Jhora

> > > > > supports three kendras or

more occupied by

> > > malefics.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- lakshmi ramesh

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Om

Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There could be some

discrepancy in the

> > > software,

> > > > > > because nabhaasa

yogas are based only on 7

> > > > > planets,

> > > > > > yet the

definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora

> > > seems

> > > > > to

> > > > > > include

Rahu & ketu.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On further reference

(Brihat jataka & 300

> > > > > important

> > > > > > combinations)I

realise my earlier mistake.

> The

> > >

> > > > > > kendras include

lagna also, but the

> definition

> > > is

> > > > > > limited to 3 kendras

because there are

> only 3

> > > > > > benefics/malefics

and they need to occupy

> a

> > > kendra

> > > > > > each, exclusively,

to form

> srik(mala)/sarpa

> > > yoga.

> > > > > Moon

> > > > > > is neither benefic

nor malefic and makes

> no

> > > > > difference

> > > > > > to the yoga(s).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for this

learning opportunity and I

> am

> > > sure

> > > > > > Narasimha's reply

will educate us further.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > --- lakshmi ramesh

> > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste

Venkatesh,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, you are

right. Sarpa yoga does

> figure

> > > among

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > yogas of

guruji. However, my feeling is

> that

> > > > > > > Parasara,

> > > > > > > when

referring to " kendra traya " meant

> 4, 7

> > > and

> > > > > > > 10th

> > > > > > > houses and not

the lagna, because lagna

> is

> > > both

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > kendra and a

kona.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In

Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed

> in

> > > lagna,

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > the 3 kendras

were indeed occupied by

> > > malefics,

> > > > > > > leading to

sarpa yoga. Is your Venus

> also

> > > > > situated

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > lagna?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- Venkatesh S

<ksvssvk

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > |JAI

SRIRAM|

> > > > > > > > Dear

Lakshmi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

>

Thank you very much for

> your

> > > > > reply

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > the quotes

from

> > > > > > > > GC

sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft

> > > copies of

>

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Dear Lakshmi Ji, Namaskar

You wrote

In the version of GC sharma's

BPHS (page 497-Vol I), it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only formed

if there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in any angle. For the

given data, jupiter & mercury are in an angle (10th house) from

lagna, hence there is no sarpa yoga.

Is it really that clearly given? Here is the sloka:

 

kendratrayagataiH saumyaiH pApairvA

dalasaMGYakau |

 

kramAnmAlAbhujaMgAkhyau shubhAshubhaphalapradau || 8||

 

All Parasara says is that if 3 kendras are occupied by benefics,

Mala Yoga is formed, and if by malefics, Sarpa Yoga is formed.

There is no mention of where the other planets should be. The rest

is G C Sharma's own addition.

Best wishes,

Samir

 

At 14:45 24/08/2005, you wrote:

 

______________________

 

Message: 9

Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:00:18 -0700 (PDT)

lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

Re: Re: Sarpa Yoga

Om Gurave Namah

Namaste Venkatesh,

In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol I),

it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only formed if

there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in any

angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are in an

angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no sarpa

yoga.

regards,

Lakshmi

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Narasimha garu,

 

> Everyone who taught me Sarpa yoga included nodes in

> it.

 

I am sure you have very valid reasons for defining

Sarpa yoga in jhora in the way it operates and I do

realise that it is only my incomplete knowledge and

inexperience that make me raise questions. You have

the triple benefit of paternal-, parampara- and self-

teaching and coupled with your formidable intellect &

interpretative skills, I am sure that this discussion

is going to give us invaluable insights into

formation/operation of yogas, which no book can ever

provide. So, I am very happy that this debate is

happening and the outcome either way is clearly

“Advantage Lakshmi”!:--))

 

> Not all naabhasa yogas exclude nodes. Sarpa yoga

> includes nodes too.

 

I checked out the chapters on Nabhasa yogas in 3

different books and have not come across this

inclusion of nodes. Perhaps I missed it. Could you

please point out where this is mentioned?

>

> What do you mean by Moon is neither a benefic nor a

> malefic??? Of course,

> Moon is either a malefic or a benefic based on the

> day. Parasara clearly

> taught that.

 

Narasimha garu, please allow me to quote BS Rao on

Brihat Jatakam … (i hope you would not misunderstand

it)

 

“….If all the malefics are in Kendra it is called

sarpa. When the 3 malefics Saturn, Mars and the Sun

occupy the 3 kendras without any benefics with them or

in the 4th Kendra, it is called sarpa yoga and

produces a sorrowful and unpleasant existence. ..only

3 good and 3 evil planets are mentioned and not the

Moon. He is both good and bad as he waxes and wanes

and his presence or absence makes no difference in the

yoga.

 

Suppose the 3 malefics occupy the 3 kendras and a Full

moon occupies the 4th Kendra. He does not disturb the

Sarpa yoga. Suppose 3 benefics occupy 3 quadrants and

a weak moon joins the 4th Kendra, then the yoga is

also not disturbed. Infact all the great Maharishis (

Bhattotpala quoted Badarayana, Parasara, Gargi,

Satyacharya etc in this context) quoted above have

not taken any notice of Chandra in this connection.

 

It is really not clear as to how the moon (manah

karaka) governing the mind should have been omitted in

these yogas, as many of our miseries are more mental

than physical…”

 

My feeling is that Moon is treated as surrogate

ascendant in dala yogas, hence is not counted among

the “effective” planets. And, Moon, that way is more

passive/ reactive than active/pro-active. His

responses are more fashioned by the environment (the

quadrants to moon) and not really his own

(moola-trikona in Vrishabha…chandra is the only planet

with moola trikona in another planet’s house!). His

relative beneficence or malevolence, is more a

strength based on Sun’s distance from him than his

own. Like the jala tattwa he represents, he reflects

the environment and remains subject to it …he doesn’t

usually fight it.

 

And, even when He does fight, the avatara is again

reflective of the needs of the Time (yuga)..when

fighting animalistic tendencies He became an animal

Himself and when fighting a purusha, He became a Maha

Purusha…and when dealing with cunning people He became

the Master Manipulator…

 

So, moon is more likely to put up with sarpa yoga,

rather than break it.

 

Thanks for bearing with my amateurish and inadequate

reasoning. Today, I am truly reminded of the Telugu

saametha…Hanumanthudi mundu kuppiganthulaa?

 

Looking forward to your reply,

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

--- " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

 

> Dear Lakshmi ji,

>

> Everyone who taught me Sarpa yoga included nodes in

> it.

>

> Not all naabhasa yogas exclude nodes. Sarpa yoga

> includes nodes too.

>

> What do you mean by Moon is neither a benefic nor a

> malefic??? Of course,

> Moon is either a malefic or a benefic based on the

> day. Parasara clearly

> taught that.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

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> " Venkatesh S " <ksvssvk

> <sohamsa >

> Cc: <pvr

> Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:01 AM

> Re: Re: Sarpa Yoga

>

>

> > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > Dear Lakshmi,

> >

> > There are five malefics namely

> Sun,Mars,Saturn,Rahu and Ketu.Jhora

> > supports three kendras or more occupied by

> malefics.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > S.Venkatesh

> >

> >

> > --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> wrote:

> >

> >> Om Gurave Namah

> >>

> >> Namaste Venkatesh,

> >>

> >> There could be some discrepancy in the software,

> >> because nabhaasa yogas are based only on 7

> planets,

> >> yet the definition of sarpa yoga in Jhora seems

> to

> >> include Rahu & ketu.

> >>

> >> On further reference (Brihat jataka & 300

> important

> >> combinations)I realise my earlier mistake. The

> >> kendras include lagna also, but the definition is

> >> limited to 3 kendras because there are only 3

> >> benefics/malefics and they need to occupy a

> kendra

> >> each, exclusively, to form srik(mala)/sarpa yoga.

> Moon

> >> is neither benefic nor malefic and makes no

> difference

> >> to the yoga(s).

> >>

> >> Thanks for this learning opportunity and I am

> sure

> >> Narasimha's reply will educate us further.

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >> Lakshmi

> >> --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> wrote:

> >>

> >> > Om Gurave Namah

> >> >

> >> > Namaste Venkatesh,

> >> >

> >> > Yes, you are right. Sarpa yoga does figure

> among the

> >> > yogas of guruji. However, my feeling is that

> >> > Parasara,

> >> > when referring to " kendra traya " meant 4, 7

> and

> >> > 10th

> >> > houses and not the lagna, because lagna is both

> a

> >> > kendra and a kona.

> >> >

> >> > In Sanjayji's chart jupiter is placed in

> lagna, so

> >> > the 3 kendras were indeed occupied by malefics,

> >> > leading to sarpa yoga. Is your Venus also

> situated

> >> > in

> >> > lagna?

> >> >

> >> > Regards,

> >> > Lakshmi

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> >> >

> >> > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> >> > > Dear Lakshmi,

> >> > >

> >> > > Thank you very much for your

> reply

> >> > and

> >> > > the quotes from

> >> > > GC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies

> of

> >> > BPHS

> >> > > and unable to

> >> > > find out the " no benefic in any angle " . In

> the

> >> > soft

> >> > > copy " Ch. 35.

> >> > > Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3

> >> > Kendras

> >> > > are occupied by

> >> > > benefics, Maal Yog is produced, while

> malefics so

> >> > > placed will cause

> >> > > Bhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas,

> respectively,

> >> > > produce benefic and

> >> > > malefic results " .

> >> > > I don't think Jhora follows

> the

> >> > book

> >> > > you had mentioned

> >> > > since in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows

> Sarpa

> >> > > Yoga,HE has Jupiter

> >> > > exalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa

> yoga.In

> >> > > my chart Venus in

> >> > > its own sign in kendra has Malavya maha

> purusa

> >> > yoga

> >> > > still Jhora shows

> >> > > Sarpa Yoga.

> >> > >

> >> > > Thanks,

> >> > > S.Venkatesh

> >> > >

> >> > > --- lakshmi ramesh

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> >> > > wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Namaste Venkatesh,

> >> > > >

> >> > > > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page

> 497-Vol

> >> > > I),

> >> > > > it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only

> >> > formed

> >> > > if

> >> > > > there are malefics in 3 angles and no

> benefic in

> >> > > any

> >> > > > angle. For the given data, jupiter &

> mercury are

> >> > > in an

> >> > > > angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there

> is no

> >> > > sarpa

> >> > > > yoga.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > regards,

> >> > > > Lakshmi

> >> > > >

> >> > > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> >> > > >

> >> > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> >> > > > > Dear Jyotisa,

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and

> >> > mostly

> >> > > > > follows BPHS.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Have you seen my previous question? That

> is

> >> > why

> >> > > i

> >> > > > > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > In the given chart, Moon is partially

> benefic.

>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Samir,

 

Exclusive occupation of kendras by either benefics or

malefics is mentioned by Sage Parasara for dala yogas

when he says....

 

kendratrayagataiH saumyaiH pApairvA...

 

" Eva " also means " only, exclusion, alone " among other

things....eg: Satyameva Jayathe...maameva saranam etc

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

--- Samir Shah <solaris.smoke wrote:

 

> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Lakshmi Ji, Namaskar

>

> You wrote

>

> >In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol

> I), it is clearly

> >given that sarpa yoga is only formed if there are

> malefics in 3

> >angles and no benefic in any angle. For the given

> data, jupiter &

> >mercury are in an angle (10th house) from lagna,

> hence there is no sarpa yoga.

>

> Is it really that clearly given? Here is the sloka:

> kendratrayagataiH saumyaiH pApairvA dalasaMGYakau |

>

> kramAnmAlAbhujaMgAkhyau shubhAshubhaphalapradau ||

> 8||

> All Parasara says is that if 3 kendras are occupied

> by benefics, Mala

> Yoga is formed, and if by malefics, Sarpa Yoga is

> formed. There is

> no mention of where the other planets should be.

> The rest is G C

> Sharma's own addition.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

> At 14:45 24/08/2005, you wrote:

>

>______________________

> >

> >Message: 9

> > Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:00:18 -0700 (PDT)

> > lakshmi ramesh

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh

> >Re: Re: Sarpa Yoga

> >

> >Om Gurave Namah

> >

> >Namaste Venkatesh,

> >

> >In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol

> I),

> >it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only formed

> if

> >there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in

> any

> >angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are in

> an

> >angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no

> sarpa

> >yoga.

> >

> >regards,

> >Lakshmi

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Lakshmi

Narasimha is right.

We will only be going wrong if we exclude the nodes who are the real sarpa in the definition of sarpa yoga. Naabhasa means sky and these yogas give us an idea of what is sure to dominate throughout life irrespective of dasa. However the sarpa and other malefic yoga when formed with the nodes is said to dominate for a considerable period of time till say 45 years and sometimes more. we have studied many charts in the past and have found this to work showing that the definition of nabhaasa yogas is worth extending in some cases with justification.

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of lakshmi rameshThursday, August 25, 2005 1:20 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Sarpa Yoga

 

Om Gurave NamahNamaste Narasimha garu,> Not all naabhasa yogas exclude nodes. Sarpa yoga> includes nodes too.I checked out the chapters on Nabhasa yogas in 3different books and have not come across thisinclusion of nodes. Perhaps I missed it. Could youplease point out where this is mentioned? [s.Rath:] How can sarpa be without the nodes.Kala sarpa and other sarpa yoga must include the nodes. The nabhasa yoga with three body malefics is akin to sarpa formation that dominates the life of the individual. > > What do you mean by Moon is neither a benefic nor a> malefic??? Of course, > Moon is either a malefic or a benefic based on the> day. Parasara clearly > taught that.Narasimha garu, please allow me to quote BS Rao onBrihat Jatakam … (i hope you would not misunderstandit)“….If all the malefics are in Kendra it is calledsarpa. When the 3 malefics Saturn, Mars and the Sunoccupy the 3 kendras without any benefics with them orin the 4th Kendra, it is called sarpa yoga andproduces a sorrowful and unpleasant existence. ..only3 good and 3 evil planets are mentioned and not theMoon. He is both good and bad as he waxes and wanesand his presence or absence makes no difference in theyoga. Suppose the 3 malefics occupy the 3 kendras and a Fullmoon occupies the 4th Kendra. He does not disturb theSarpa yoga. Suppose 3 benefics occupy 3 quadrants anda weak moon joins the 4th Kendra, then the yoga isalso not disturbed. Infact all the great Maharishis (Bhattotpala quoted Badarayana, Parasara, Gargi,Satyacharya etc in this context) quoted above havenot taken any notice of Chandra in this connection. It is really not clear as to how the moon (manahkaraka) governing the mind should have been omitted inthese yogas, as many of our miseries are more mentalthan physical…”[s.Rath:] According to Parasara, the Moon joining a poverty giving combination like the Kemadruma Yoga will only enhance the negative significations of the yoga indicating that once the mind readily accepts the poverty as a fait accompli, it is a confimation of utter poverty throughout life where the dasa will have but little effect. This is in line with the teachings of the other rishi. However if the Moon is strong as in the chart of Krishna and is in the lagna or 7th house then it shall give the intellect the ability to fight the sarpa like the Kaliya mardana sri Krishna. Thats why I always give more emphasis to the special placement of the Moon in 1st or 7th house. Such a Moon shall have over riding powers in matters of longevity also (see rules for method of 3 pairs).

[s.Rath:] I have given too may seeds for thought in these few lines. Please consider all of them point by point and revert back.

[s.Rath:] BS Rao is not conclusive in his statement and has clearly expressed his doubt about how the Moon is omitted. I have given the necessary input in addition to that of BS Rao. Moon in 1 or 7 or in great strength will break the yoga. So, moon is more likely to put up with sarpa yoga,rather than break it. Thanks for bearing with my amateurish and inadequatereasoning. Today, I am truly reminded of the Telugusaametha…Hanumanthudi mundu kuppiganthulaa?Looking forward to your reply,Regards,Lakshmi

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om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Venkatesh and Lakshmi Ji,

To add, Sarpa Yoga is formed by malefics in 3 kendras. Here Rahu and Ketu are exempted as they are Chaya Grahas.So here malefics means, Surya, Kuja,Shani and weak Chandra ie., Krishna Paksha Chandra.Now I Sanjay Ji's chart, Lagna is occupied by Guru a benefic.Only 7th is occupied by Kuja.Eventhough Rahu and Ketu are in 4th and 10th,there is no Sarpa Yoga.I feel Chi.Narasimha has to make these changes in his JHora.Please refer to JD January 2004 for a complete information about Nabhasa Yogas.

I hope this helps.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

|JAI SRIRAM|Dear Lakshmi, Thank you very much for your reply and the quotes fromGC sharma's BPHS.I had only the soft copies of BPHS and unable tofind out the "no benefic in any angle". In the soft copy "Ch. 35.Nabhash Yogas,8. Maal and Sarpa Yogas. If 3 Kendras are occupied bybenefics, Maal Yog is produced, while malefics so placed will causeBhujang, or Sarpa Yog. These Yogas, respectively, produce benefic andmalefic results". I don't think Jhora follows the book you had mentionedsince in Pt.Sanjay's horoscope Jhora shows Sarpa Yoga,HE has Jupiterexalted in lagna and has Hamsa maha purusa yoga.In my chart Venus inits own sign in kendra has Malavya maha purusa yoga still

Jhora showsSarpa Yoga.Thanks,S.Venkatesh--- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste Venkatesh,> > In the version of GC sharma's BPHS (page 497-Vol I),> it is clearly given that sarpa yoga is only formed if> there are malefics in 3 angles and no benefic in any> angle. For the given data, jupiter & mercury are in an> angle (10th house) from lagna, hence there is no sarpa> yoga.> > regards,> Lakshmi > > --- Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:> > > |JAI SRIRAM|> > Dear Jyotisa,> > > > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly> > follows BPHS.> > > > Have you seen my previous question? That is why i> > quoted what is in BPHS about Sarpa Yoga.> > > > In the given

chart, Moon is partially benefic.> > > > How did you say Moon is partially benefic?> > > > In a purer sense the the presence of Moon and> > mercury in quadrant can potentially nullify the> > yoga.> > > > Is Moon in a quadrent? Are you sure Jhora supports> > nullify concept of Sarpa Yoga?> > > > Try to use your own understanding and experience,> > The List of Yoga given by JHora can be used for> > pointers.> > > > My question is why Jhora doesn't show the Sarpa> > Yoga for the given birth details and it is not a> > question of My understanding and experience.> > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > S.Venkatesh> > > > >

> > > > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote:> > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Namaste,> > > > JHora Yoga's Identification is strict and mostly> > follows BPHS. In the> > given chart, Moon is partially benefic. In a purer> > sense the the> > presence of Moon and mercury in quadrant can> > potentially nullify the> > yoga. Try to use your own understanding and> > experience, The List of> > Yoga given by JHora can be used for pointers.> > > > Warm Regards> > Sanjay P> > > > > > > > sohamsa , Venkatesh S> > <ksvssvk> wrote:> > > |JAI

SRIRAM|> > > Dear Jyotisa,> > > > > > Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show Sarpa> > Yoga for the following> > > details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of birth> > has malefics three> > > kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun).> > > October 23,2005> > > 13:56:18> > > 5:30 East> > > Place:New Delhi India> > > > > > Thanks,> > > S.Venkatesh> > > > > > > > > > > >> > __> > > Start your day with - make it your home> > page > > > http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam*

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