Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Dear Shri Pradepji, If it is not asking much, then would you be kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? No one has done this for me before, and neither have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I promise I will not argue on this. My Birth details. 28th June 1961 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) 16.45 81.09 ELURU (near Vijaywada) Birth Ascendant- Leo. Thanks, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Hello, I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he anlyze vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze vimsamsha. If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have to ask someone who uses it as a chart. Satish --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > promise I will not argue on this. > > My Birth details. > 28th June 1961 > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > 16.45 81.09 > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > Thanks, > Bhaskar. > > ______________________________\ ____ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Okay. But what do we call that Diagram, where all the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on a single diagram., which we find in the book of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? You are ignoring the essemce of the question and trying to take out skin (Baal ki khhaal) from the other end of the hair end, where there is none. bhaskar. , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Hello, > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he anlyze > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze vimsamsha. > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have to > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > Satish > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > My Birth details. > > 28th June 1961 > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > 16.45 81.09 > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > Thanks, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Dear Satish ji, I expect him to read from his methodology. Or do you mean to say that Vimsamsa does not exist and can not be used in prediction? Does parashar suggest that only D9 should be used . and This time, i am only talking about Parashar .. or if he want to consider it vimsamsa only instead of charts then also let him go on by his way. finally its bhaskar ji's chart, so instead of diverting the thread he must provide a reading. Regards, Tarun , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Hello, > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he anlyze > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze vimsamsha. > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have to > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > Satish > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > My Birth details. > > 28th June 1961 > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > 16.45 81.09 > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > Thanks, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Tarun, the terminology is imporatnant and it can mislead if not properly applied. If he analyzes using vimsamsa, one can not go on saying he used vimsamsa chart. There is a big difference and it is the gist of the debate. Satish --- Tarun <tarun.virgo wrote: > Dear Satish ji, > > I expect him to read from his methodology. Or do you > mean to say that > Vimsamsa does not exist and can not be used in > prediction? Does > parashar suggest that only D9 should be used . and > This time, i am > only talking about Parashar .. > > or if he want to consider it vimsamsa only instead > of charts then > also let him go on by his way. > finally its bhaskar ji's chart, so instead of > diverting the thread he > must provide a reading. > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he > anlyze > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze > vimsamsha. > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have > to > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > Satish > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > 28th June 1961 > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > ______________ > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Bhaskar, The diagram is drawn as a convenience. One does not need a diagram to get vimsamsa as you do not need a diagram to get navamsha. Satish --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Okay. > > But what do we call that Diagram, where all > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > a single diagram., which we find in the book > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > You are ignoring the essemce of the question > and trying to take out skin (Baal ki khhaal) > from the other end of the hair end, where > there is none. > > bhaskar. > > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he > anlyze > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze > vimsamsha. > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have > to > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > Satish > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > 28th June 1961 > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. http://autos./new_cars.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Sateeshji, Please answer the below questions which have been led to be raised by your self- 1) what do we call that Diagram, where all the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on a single diagram., which we find in the book of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? 2) The Rasis when shown graphically,on a Diagram, can be called a Rasi Chart, but the amsas of the planets shown in a diagram cannot be called a Navamsa Chart, Vimsamsha Chart etc. Why ? what is the reason. 3) what should be the graphical representation of all the Nav amshas in a single diagram, be called as, if not a Chart ? Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Okay. > > But what do we call that Diagram, where all > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > a single diagram., which we find in the book > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > You are ignoring the essemce of the question > and trying to take out skin (Baal ki khhaal) > from the other end of the hair end, where > there is none. > > bhaskar. > > > , SPK <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he anlyze > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze vimsamsha. > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have to > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > Satish > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > 28th June 1961 > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Satishji, Then even the Rasis can be put on a paper without the diagram. Is the diagram necessary to show about the Rashis ? is the diagram here too,in the Rsi Chart, not for convenience ? Bhaskar. , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Bhaskar, > > The diagram is drawn as a convenience. One does not > need a diagram to get vimsamsa as you do not need a > diagram to get navamsha. > > Satish > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Okay. > > > > But what do we call that Diagram, where all > > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > > a single diagram., which we find in the book > > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > You are ignoring the essemce of the question > > and trying to take out skin (Baal ki khhaal) > > from the other end of the hair end, where > > there is none. > > > > bhaskar. > > > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he > > anlyze > > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze > > vimsamsha. > > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have > > to > > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > > > Satish > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > > 28th June 1961 > > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > http://autos./new_cars.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Satishji, What is the big difference between just the Vimshamsa and the Vimshamsha Chart. Please explain. Bhaskar. , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Tarun, > > the terminology is imporatnant and it can mislead if > not properly applied. If he analyzes using vimsamsa, > one can not go on saying he used vimsamsa chart. There > is a big difference and it is the gist of the debate. > > Satish > --- Tarun <tarun.virgo wrote: > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > I expect him to read from his methodology. Or do you > > mean to say that > > Vimsamsa does not exist and can not be used in > > prediction? Does > > parashar suggest that only D9 should be used . and > > This time, i am > > only talking about Parashar .. > > > > or if he want to consider it vimsamsa only instead > > of charts then > > also let him go on by his way. > > finally its bhaskar ji's chart, so instead of > > diverting the thread he > > must provide a reading. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he > > anlyze > > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze > > vimsamsha. > > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have > > to > > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > > > Satish > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > > 28th June 1961 > > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > ______________ > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. > http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 I will explain what is known as terminology- a) All Rashis shown together is known as a rashi Chart. b) All Navamshas shown together is known as a Navamsha Chart . c) All subjects with their marks obtained shown together, is known as a report Card. d) All memnbers of the family with their ages,shown together, is known as a Ration Card. Any more lessons on terminology needed ? How much precious time is wasted by these baseles non-astrological talks ? Bhaskar. , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Tarun, > > the terminology is imporatnant and it can mislead if > not properly applied. If he analyzes using vimsamsa, > one can not go on saying he used vimsamsa chart. There > is a big difference and it is the gist of the debate. > > Satish > --- Tarun <tarun.virgo wrote: > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > I expect him to read from his methodology. Or do you > > mean to say that > > Vimsamsa does not exist and can not be used in > > prediction? Does > > parashar suggest that only D9 should be used . and > > This time, i am > > only talking about Parashar .. > > > > or if he want to consider it vimsamsa only instead > > of charts then > > also let him go on by his way. > > finally its bhaskar ji's chart, so instead of > > diverting the thread he > > must provide a reading. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he > > anlyze > > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze > > vimsamsha. > > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have > > to > > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > > > Satish > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > > 28th June 1961 > > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > ______________ > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. > http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Satish, I am still awaiting the answers of the below mentioned questions. Last time also You mentioned about charts, in the earlier part of the day,but I ignored your mails, but it seems that this is one of the most important issue, if you are speaking continously about it, so please explain and solve. Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Sateeshji, > > Please answer the below questions which > have been led to be raised by your self- > > 1) what do we call that Diagram, where all > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > a single diagram., which we find in the book > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > 2) The Rasis when shown graphically,on > a Diagram, can be called a Rasi Chart, > but the amsas of the planets shown in a > diagram cannot be called a Navamsa Chart, > Vimsamsha Chart etc. Why ? > what is the reason. > > 3) what should be the graphical > representation of all the Nav amshas > in a single diagram, be called as, > if not a Chart ? > > Bhaskar. > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Okay. > > > > But what do we call that Diagram, where all > > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > > a single diagram., which we find in the book > > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > You are ignoring the essemce of the question > > and trying to take out skin (Baal ki khhaal) > > from the other end of the hair end, where > > there is none. > > > > bhaskar. > > > > > > , SPK <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he anlyze > > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze vimsamsha. > > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have to > > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > > > Satish > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > > 28th June 1961 > > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Bhaskar, Once one draws it like a diagram all the associated paraphenilia comes with it like houses, aspects etc. Thats the difference. Satish --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Satishji, > > Then even the Rasis can be put on a paper > without the diagram. Is the diagram necessary > to show about the Rashis ? is the diagram > here too,in the Rsi Chart, not for convenience ? > > Bhaskar. > > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > > Bhaskar, > > > > The diagram is drawn as a convenience. One does > not > > need a diagram to get vimsamsa as you do not need > a > > diagram to get navamsha. > > > > Satish > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > Okay. > > > > > > But what do we call that Diagram, where all > > > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > > > a single diagram., which we find in the book > > > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > > You are ignoring the essemce of the question > > > and trying to take out skin (Baal ki khhaal) > > > from the other end of the hair end, where > > > there is none. > > > > > > bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he > > > anlyze > > > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze > > > vimsamsha. > > > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may > have > > > to > > > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and > neither > > > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > > > 28th June 1961 > > > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning > protection. > > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Don't pick lemons. > > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > http://autos./new_cars.html > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Satish, So all these people who are drawing charts like BV raman, KN rao, and Santhanam and almost all astrologers of the world, are they doing the wrong thing ? Bhaskar. , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Bhaskar, > > Once one draws it like a diagram all the associated > paraphenilia comes with it like houses, aspects etc. > Thats the difference. > > Satish > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Satishji, > > > > Then even the Rasis can be put on a paper > > without the diagram. Is the diagram necessary > > to show about the Rashis ? is the diagram > > here too,in the Rsi Chart, not for convenience ? > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar, > > > > > > The diagram is drawn as a convenience. One does > > not > > > need a diagram to get vimsamsa as you do not need > > a > > > diagram to get navamsha. > > > > > > Satish > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Okay. > > > > > > > > But what do we call that Diagram, where all > > > > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > > > > a single diagram., which we find in the book > > > > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > > > You are ignoring the essemce of the question > > > > and trying to take out skin (Baal ki khhaal) > > > > from the other end of the hair end, where > > > > there is none. > > > > > > > > bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he > > > > anlyze > > > > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze > > > > vimsamsha. > > > > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may > > have > > > > to > > > > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > > > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > > > > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and > > neither > > > > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > > > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > > > > 28th June 1961 > > > > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning > > protection. > > > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > Don't pick lemons. > > > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > http://autos./new_cars.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Bhaskarji, I will call it amsha. it is nice and consistent to view it as achart. But for the on going debate it is better if we keep the terminology distinct. There are many who may get confused if not familiar with the ongoing debate. Thanks Satish --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Sateeshji, > > Please answer the below questions which > have been led to be raised by your self- > > 1) what do we call that Diagram, where all > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > a single diagram., which we find in the book > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > 2) The Rasis when shown graphically,on > a Diagram, can be called a Rasi Chart, > but the amsas of the planets shown in a > diagram cannot be called a Navamsa Chart, > Vimsamsha Chart etc. Why ? > what is the reason. > > 3) what should be the graphical > representation of all the Nav amshas > in a single diagram, be called as, > if not a Chart ? > > Bhaskar. > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish > wrote: > > > > Okay. > > > > But what do we call that Diagram, where all > > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > > a single diagram., which we find in the book > > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > You are ignoring the essemce of the question > > and trying to take out skin (Baal ki khhaal) > > from the other end of the hair end, where > > there is none. > > > > bhaskar. > > > > > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he > anlyze > > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze > vimsamsha. > > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have > to > > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > > > Satish > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and > neither > > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > > 28th June 1961 > > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 No, They are not doing a wrong thing. One can put whatever way is convenient. When we interpret if one is not using houses etc one should not call it chart, thats where confusion starts and pretty soon people will be quoting from the list saying vijaydas supports vamsamsa chart Satish --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Satish, > > So all these people who are drawing charts like > BV raman, KN rao, and Santhanam and almost all > astrologers of the world, are they doing > the wrong thing ? > > Bhaskar. > > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > > Bhaskar, > > > > Once one draws it like a diagram all the > associated > > paraphenilia comes with it like houses, aspects > etc. > > Thats the difference. > > > > Satish > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > Satishji, > > > > > > Then even the Rasis can be put on a paper > > > without the diagram. Is the diagram necessary > > > to show about the Rashis ? is the diagram > > > here too,in the Rsi Chart, not for convenience ? > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > The diagram is drawn as a convenience. One > does > > > not > > > > need a diagram to get vimsamsa as you do not > need > > > a > > > > diagram to get navamsha. > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Okay. > > > > > > > > > > But what do we call that Diagram, where all > > > > > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > > > > > a single diagram., which we find in the book > > > > > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > > > > You are ignoring the essemce of the question > > > > > and trying to take out skin (Baal ki khhaal) > > > > > from the other end of the hair end, where > > > > > there is none. > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can > he > > > > > anlyze > > > > > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze > > > > > vimsamsha. > > > > > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you > may > > > have > > > > > to > > > > > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you > be > > > > > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and > > > neither > > > > > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me > .And I > > > > > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > > > > > 28th June 1961 > > > > > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > > > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > > > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning > > > protection. > > > > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > > Don't pick lemons. > > > > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > > http://autos./new_cars.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > > that gives answers, not web links. > > > http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. http://games./games/front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 DEAR SATISHJI, I AM NOT INTERSTED IN THE ON GOING DEBATE. My Query to Pradeepji was seperate of the debate. I have already put my views on the debate. According to me its all one sided, one person hitting the ball all the time, Frederer versus nobody to hit back. I think I have already proved all the myths wrong,what have been wrongly understood by the people on the other side of me. If you are interested You may please predict on my Vimsamsa. I request Shri Pradeepji to predict on My Vimsamsha Chart. regards, Bhaskar. , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Bhaskarji, > > I will call it amsha. it is nice and consistent to > view it as achart. But for the on going debate it is > better if we keep the terminology distinct. There are > many who may get confused if not familiar with the > ongoing debate. > > Thanks > > Satish > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Sateeshji, > > > > Please answer the below questions which > > have been led to be raised by your self- > > > > 1) what do we call that Diagram, where all > > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > > a single diagram., which we find in the book > > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > > > 2) The Rasis when shown graphically,on > > a Diagram, can be called a Rasi Chart, > > but the amsas of the planets shown in a > > diagram cannot be called a Navamsa Chart, > > Vimsamsha Chart etc. Why ? > > what is the reason. > > > > 3) what should be the graphical > > representation of all the Nav amshas > > in a single diagram, be called as, > > if not a Chart ? > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Okay. > > > > > > But what do we call that Diagram, where all > > > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > > > a single diagram., which we find in the book > > > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > > You are ignoring the essemce of the question > > > and trying to take out skin (Baal ki khhaal) > > > from the other end of the hair end, where > > > there is none. > > > > > > bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he > > anlyze > > > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze > > vimsamsha. > > > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have > > to > > > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and > > neither > > > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > > > 28th June 1961 > > > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > > > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 But who says houses etc. are not used in Navamsha or Vimshamsha (Charts)? Bhaskar. , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > No, They are not doing a wrong thing. One can put > whatever way is convenient. When we interpret if one > is not using houses etc one should not call it chart, > thats where confusion starts and pretty soon people > will be quoting from the list saying vijaydas supports > vamsamsa chart > > Satish > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > Satish, > > > > So all these people who are drawing charts like > > BV raman, KN rao, and Santhanam and almost all > > astrologers of the world, are they doing > > the wrong thing ? > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar, > > > > > > Once one draws it like a diagram all the > > associated > > > paraphenilia comes with it like houses, aspects > > etc. > > > Thats the difference. > > > > > > Satish > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Satishji, > > > > > > > > Then even the Rasis can be put on a paper > > > > without the diagram. Is the diagram necessary > > > > to show about the Rashis ? is the diagram > > > > here too,in the Rsi Chart, not for convenience ? > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > The diagram is drawn as a convenience. One > > does > > > > not > > > > > need a diagram to get vimsamsa as you do not > > need > > > > a > > > > > diagram to get navamsha. > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Okay. > > > > > > > > > > > > But what do we call that Diagram, where all > > > > > > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > > > > > > a single diagram., which we find in the book > > > > > > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > > > > > You are ignoring the essemce of the question > > > > > > and trying to take out skin (Baal ki khhaal) > > > > > > from the other end of the hair end, where > > > > > > there is none. > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can > > he > > > > > > anlyze > > > > > > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze > > > > > > vimsamsha. > > > > > > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you > > may > > > > have > > > > > > to > > > > > > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you > > be > > > > > > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and > > > > neither > > > > > > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me > > .And I > > > > > > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961 > > > > > > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > > > > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > > > > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning > > > > protection. > > > > > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > > > Don't pick lemons. > > > > > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > > > http://autos./new_cars.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > > > that gives answers, not web links. > > > > > > http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. > http://games./games/front > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji Satish ji has explained it well.To add,you can have any name or any kind of reprentattion as you like,as long as you include the terminologies mentioned by sage. In kerala navamshas are termed as amshakam while the main one is called as rashi chakram. As all amshas relate to rashis within rashi chakra,drawing them within a rashi chakra skeleton is the best convenient fashion.Some astrologers mark them outside rashi chakra.Some of them mention them in a taular form after degrees of planets. Thus what it matters is how we analyze them.Just because you draw them within a chakra ,it does not mean you can violate rules set by sages. Regds Pradeep , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Bhaskarji, > > I will call it amsha. it is nice and consistent to > view it as achart. But for the on going debate it is > better if we keep the terminology distinct. There are > many who may get confused if not familiar with the > ongoing debate. > > Thanks > > Satish > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Sateeshji, > > > > Please answer the below questions which > > have been led to be raised by your self- > > > > 1) what do we call that Diagram, where all > > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > > a single diagram., which we find in the book > > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > > > 2) The Rasis when shown graphically,on > > a Diagram, can be called a Rasi Chart, > > but the amsas of the planets shown in a > > diagram cannot be called a Navamsa Chart, > > Vimsamsha Chart etc. Why ? > > what is the reason. > > > > 3) what should be the graphical > > representation of all the Nav amshas > > in a single diagram, be called as, > > if not a Chart ? > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Okay. > > > > > > But what do we call that Diagram, where all > > > the houses of the Vimshamsha are shown on > > > a single diagram., which we find in the book > > > of Yogis, Destiny and the wheel of Time ? > > > You are ignoring the essemce of the question > > > and trying to take out skin (Baal ki khhaal) > > > from the other end of the hair end, where > > > there is none. > > > > > > bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I can not speak for vijaydas, but how can he > > anlyze > > > > vimsamsa chart? He may be able to analyze > > vimsamsha. > > > > If one wants to analyze it as chart you may have > > to > > > > ask someone who uses it as a chart. > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > > > > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > > > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > > > > > > > No one has done this for me before, and > > neither > > > > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > > > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details. > > > > > 28th June 1961 > > > > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > > > > 16.45 81.09 > > > > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > > > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > > > > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji As satish ji has said,i can try to analyze the vimshamshas of your lagna and other planets.But i have lot to understand,from the rashi and navaamshaka before i proced.Thus give me some time. Regds Pradeep , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > promise I will not argue on this. > > My Birth details. > 28th June 1961 > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > 16.45 81.09 > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > Thanks, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Dear Pradeepji, Yes Sir, You may take your time. But i request you to also please suggest line of action too,with reference to Vimsamsa alongwith your results,because I am not here just for taking advantage of you, rather knowing what approach of spiritual activity is best suited to me. I am not much into any type of such activity, but intend to,in near future. Thanks, and regards, Bhaskar. , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > As satish ji has said,i can try to analyze the vimshamshas of your > lagna and other planets.But i have lot to understand,from the rashi > and navaamshaka before i proced.Thus give me some time. > > Regds > Pradeep , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > My Birth details. > > 28th June 1961 > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > 16.45 81.09 > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > Thanks, > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Dear Pradeep ji, Many thanks. In fact - I was wondering too, as to how will you be applying your model for predictions using other D charts as well. I loom forward to understand from your explanation on Bhaskar ji's Vimsamsa chart. regards / Prafulla , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > As satish ji has said,i can try to analyze the vimshamshas of your > lagna and other planets.But i have lot to understand,from the rashi > and navaamshaka before i proced.Thus give me some time. > > Regds > Pradeep , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Pradepji, > > > > If it is not asking much, then would you be > > kind enough to analyse my Vimsamsa Chart ? > > > > No one has done this for me before, and neither > > have I asked anyone to do this for me .And I > > promise I will not argue on this. > > > > My Birth details. > > 28th June 1961 > > 10.15 am.(Recorded 10.14) > > 16.45 81.09 > > ELURU (near Vijaywada) > > Birth Ascendant- Leo. > > > > Thanks, > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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