Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Dear Prafulla ji It is not my choice at all.That is where you are missing on something.Guru and Moon in 1/7 (navamsha arrangement)are not apecting. Shri Santhanam understands this,and hence he said categorically in Devakeralam as well as BPHS.Do you think Late Santhanam haven't seen 1/7 in navamsha arrangements?Why is he saying aspects are not possible? If you wnat i will explain it to you with a chart.Onyl if you want. Regds Pradeep , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji > > I wanted to conclude the thread - pending your case studies. But for > the clarification purpose: > > The example quoted in my earlier submission on Smt Menaka Gandhi's > chart - > Guru and moon in 1/7 - are they not aspecting each other? > > if you want to reject that - it is your choice !! > > If i had not read in TOA - I will not comment. > > But as I have observed on the thread: You have moved from existence > of D charts to aspects in D charts. > > Well - Good luck > > regards / Prafulla > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prafulla ji > > > > > I have personally seen him reading charts and can tell with > > certainty > > > that - > > > a. He considered D charts > > > b. He used combinations and aspects in D charts > > > > If you say that he uses aspects,then he might have used them when > > you were there,and to the bigger world ,he gave another advise as > > categorically,in crystal clear english that aspects should not be > > considered in navamsha or other charts. > > > > For your info,he is not at all mentioning about aspects in the TOA > > articles. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > Many thanks for sharing references. > > > > > > I had opportunity to spend some time with Late Santhanam ji, and I > > > distinctly remember him referring mutual aspects of guru and venus > > in > > > D9 chakra as good combination for marital life. > > > > > > Members may try this principle in the case studies - and vouch for > > its > > > working. > > > > > > I referred two case studies from his TOA articles as well - stating > > > his approach on D9 chakra. > > > > > > I have personally seen him reading charts and can tell with > > certainty > > > that - > > > a. He considered D charts > > > b. He used combinations and aspects in D charts > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Discoveries and Lessons In Practical Vedic astrology > > > > by R. Santhanam -Part 1 > > > > > > > > Page 56 > > > > > > > > ------In the navamsha Diagram we find two favourable > > > > combinations for early marriage.Venus in the 7th from > > > > the ascendant and jupiter in the 7th from the Moon > > > > > > > > (Now what can one infer above, if not 7th aspect, then what?) > > > > > > > > page 421 > > > > > > > > ------The moon is in Scorpio navamsha from where the > > > > 10th is occupied by both mercury and saturn ,indicating > > > > shoe related Profession. > > > > > > > > ( The above combination is shown in the Navamsha > > > > Diagram given on that Page. I ak the readers if he is not > > > > talking here of the 3td aspect of saturn, then what ?) > > > > > > > > Also by the way, Diagram is also known as Chart, > > > > for those who may not know. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Dear Pradeep ji LOL unfortunately he is not alive today to clarify - what he has understood !! Perhaps - the case studies and notes taken in my conversation are the only reference i have to quote. So i have nothing further to offer - except the fact that - he considered 1/7 - opposition of planets - as aspect even in d9. So you agree with Santhanam ji that - D charts exists and to be read like rasi chart for combinations etc. if not then why is referring to 1/7 position or even bhava in navamsa chakra. I am happy to see - atleast your accepting that D charts exists. Now your contention seems only on aspects in D chakras. You can not have selective reference to Late santhanam's reference to D chakras. regards / Prafulla , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Prafulla ji > > It is not my choice at all.That is where you are missing on > something.Guru and Moon in 1/7 (navamsha arrangement)are not > apecting. > > Shri Santhanam understands this,and hence he said categorically in > Devakeralam as well as BPHS.Do you think Late Santhanam haven't seen > 1/7 in navamsha arrangements?Why is he saying aspects are not > possible? > > If you wnat i will explain it to you with a chart.Onyl if you want. > > Regds > Pradeep > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep ji > > > > I wanted to conclude the thread - pending your case studies. But > for > > the clarification purpose: > > > > The example quoted in my earlier submission on Smt Menaka Gandhi's > > chart - > > Guru and moon in 1/7 - are they not aspecting each other? > > > > if you want to reject that - it is your choice !! > > > > If i had not read in TOA - I will not comment. > > > > But as I have observed on the thread: You have moved from > existence > > of D charts to aspects in D charts. > > > > Well - Good luck > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prafulla ji > > > > > > > I have personally seen him reading charts and can tell with > > > certainty > > > > that - > > > > a. He considered D charts > > > > b. He used combinations and aspects in D charts > > > > > > If you say that he uses aspects,then he might have used them > when > > > you were there,and to the bigger world ,he gave another advise > as > > > categorically,in crystal clear english that aspects should not > be > > > considered in navamsha or other charts. > > > > > > For your info,he is not at all mentioning about aspects in the > TOA > > > articles. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > Many thanks for sharing references. > > > > > > > > I had opportunity to spend some time with Late Santhanam ji, > and I > > > > distinctly remember him referring mutual aspects of guru and > venus > > > in > > > > D9 chakra as good combination for marital life. > > > > > > > > Members may try this principle in the case studies - and vouch > for > > > its > > > > working. > > > > > > > > I referred two case studies from his TOA articles as well - > stating > > > > his approach on D9 chakra. > > > > > > > > I have personally seen him reading charts and can tell with > > > certainty > > > > that - > > > > a. He considered D charts > > > > b. He used combinations and aspects in D charts > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Discoveries and Lessons In Practical Vedic astrology > > > > > by R. Santhanam -Part 1 > > > > > > > > > > Page 56 > > > > > > > > > > ------In the navamsha Diagram we find two favourable > > > > > combinations for early marriage.Venus in the 7th from > > > > > the ascendant and jupiter in the 7th from the Moon > > > > > > > > > > (Now what can one infer above, if not 7th aspect, then what?) > > > > > > > > > > page 421 > > > > > > > > > > ------The moon is in Scorpio navamsha from where the > > > > > 10th is occupied by both mercury and saturn ,indicating > > > > > shoe related Profession. > > > > > > > > > > ( The above combination is shown in the Navamsha > > > > > Diagram given on that Page. I ak the readers if he is not > > > > > talking here of the 3td aspect of saturn, then what ?) > > > > > > > > > > Also by the way, Diagram is also known as Chart, > > > > > for those who may not know. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Dear Prafulla ji The question was would you like to know ,why aspects are impossible and what you see as 1/7 in navamsha arrangement is not an aspect. If you want,i can explain with the relevant chapter from BPHS and also with a chart. Then you will understand ,why late santhanam has said,aspects cannot be seen from navamsha or other charts. Now i do not agree with Late Santhanam that D-Charts exist.As the respected gentleman considered them as a chart ,he couldnt expalin Lagnashadvargake shloka. But when i follow the explanations written 1000's of years ago,i canm see them without any trouble.Sage was talking about lagnas shadvargas -not six varga charts. Regds Pradeep , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji > > LOL > > unfortunately he is not alive today to clarify - what he has > understood !! Perhaps - the case studies and notes taken in my > conversation are the only reference i have to quote. So i have nothing > further to offer - except the fact that - he considered 1/7 - > opposition of planets - as aspect even in d9. > > So you agree with Santhanam ji that - D charts exists and to be read > like rasi chart for combinations etc. if not then why is referring to > 1/7 position or even bhava in navamsa chakra. > > I am happy to see - atleast your accepting that D charts exists. Now > your contention seems only on aspects in D chakras. You can not have > selective reference to Late santhanam's reference to D chakras. > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prafulla ji > > > > It is not my choice at all.That is where you are missing on > > something.Guru and Moon in 1/7 (navamsha arrangement)are not > > apecting. > > > > Shri Santhanam understands this,and hence he said categorically in > > Devakeralam as well as BPHS.Do you think Late Santhanam haven't seen > > 1/7 in navamsha arrangements?Why is he saying aspects are not > > possible? > > > > If you wnat i will explain it to you with a chart.Onyl if you want. > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji > > > > > > I wanted to conclude the thread - pending your case studies. But > > for > > > the clarification purpose: > > > > > > The example quoted in my earlier submission on Smt Menaka Gandhi's > > > chart - > > > Guru and moon in 1/7 - are they not aspecting each other? > > > > > > if you want to reject that - it is your choice !! > > > > > > If i had not read in TOA - I will not comment. > > > > > > But as I have observed on the thread: You have moved from > > existence > > > of D charts to aspects in D charts. > > > > > > Well - Good luck > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla ji > > > > > > > > > I have personally seen him reading charts and can tell with > > > > certainty > > > > > that - > > > > > a. He considered D charts > > > > > b. He used combinations and aspects in D charts > > > > > > > > If you say that he uses aspects,then he might have used them > > when > > > > you were there,and to the bigger world ,he gave another advise > > as > > > > categorically,in crystal clear english that aspects should not > > be > > > > considered in navamsha or other charts. > > > > > > > > For your info,he is not at all mentioning about aspects in the > > TOA > > > > articles. > > > > > > > > Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for sharing references. > > > > > > > > > > I had opportunity to spend some time with Late Santhanam ji, > > and I > > > > > distinctly remember him referring mutual aspects of guru and > > venus > > > > in > > > > > D9 chakra as good combination for marital life. > > > > > > > > > > Members may try this principle in the case studies - and vouch > > for > > > > its > > > > > working. > > > > > > > > > > I referred two case studies from his TOA articles as well - > > stating > > > > > his approach on D9 chakra. > > > > > > > > > > I have personally seen him reading charts and can tell with > > > > certainty > > > > > that - > > > > > a. He considered D charts > > > > > b. He used combinations and aspects in D charts > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Discoveries and Lessons In Practical Vedic astrology > > > > > > by R. Santhanam -Part 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Page 56 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------In the navamsha Diagram we find two favourable > > > > > > combinations for early marriage.Venus in the 7th from > > > > > > the ascendant and jupiter in the 7th from the Moon > > > > > > > > > > > > (Now what can one infer above, if not 7th aspect, then what?) > > > > > > > > > > > > page 421 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------The moon is in Scorpio navamsha from where the > > > > > > 10th is occupied by both mercury and saturn ,indicating > > > > > > shoe related Profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > ( The above combination is shown in the Navamsha > > > > > > Diagram given on that Page. I ak the readers if he is not > > > > > > talking here of the 3td aspect of saturn, then what ?) > > > > > > > > > > > > Also by the way, Diagram is also known as Chart, > > > > > > for those who may not know. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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