reg worshipping mother throwing away of books

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sairaman

 

wounderful message y have given

 

parihara nt in temple to please people very close to y

 

saturn labourer, moon mother, sun father guru children and yr guide , venus

wife, mars husband , mercury yr helpingtrader and slibings,

 

service to human is service to god

 

displeasing all including boss in yr office and going for pariharas at temples

and pleasing almighty instead of old parents expecting boss devoted wife etc

will help to lead happy peaceful life

 

in kalapurusha 4th house moon represented by mother 4th also vechicle house etc

2and 7th given to venus wife and ladies help and please them 2nd house

represented in all forms by currency jwellery etc

 

3rd house siblings te youngers for yr help hands to go forward in life

 

4th mother there is no end to please them all scriptures praise only mother the

true representative of god till her end words cannot satisfy her saccrifices

 

5th children leo as well as government sun if we are in good terms peace will

reach us

 

like this we can represent 3every sign and gragha to a human and do pariaharas

ie to accept them and get along with them whate4ver they be

 

most import is satrurn it is the back bone with out a good labourer no work can

be successful all mansions built on their sweat only

 

we cannot live in this earth so comfortably without the labour of the other

person in turn we satisfythem with money only after bargaining

 

i am trying to advocate the above principles at my best so happy in life settled

well god has given every thing in life nothing of short and want (more important

no big designation and no big salary and that isthe secret of all)

 

4th house is mother cot house vechicle land and all comforts in life if it is

linked to venus and 11th house we get everything in life (my 4th sub lord raghu

connected to sun 11th sublord in sub of venus 5th sub lord) all my freinds

realtives from mother, wife father side in very good terms and we are so happy

in a very big circle

 

not only yr mother help all old and sick and try to please them real saturn

parihara we shall achieve everything in life

 

saturn is 10th house of kalapurusha status and designation and 11th house

achievements he is good friend (trikona) of venus wife money and contacting

person 7th house so we can achieve by pleasing mother servant wife in all terms

 

saturn get digbala in 7th house see the seventh house one is mother moon and

other is sun father

 

thabnk y madam for making me to write this mail

 

thank y with my regards and best wishes

 

 

 

sairaman

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sushmita34 <sushmita34 wrote:

Dear Bhaskar, (and also to Prafulla)

 

Pls call me Sushmita. The ji sounds as if I am ancient )

 

I have been too busy in the last 3 months and still am, hence do not

mind my late reply or no reply at all.

 

I think Indians are dead and so is Sanskriti, if your mother was

insulted which I did read and nobody came to defend you, then Shame on

Indians. I hope none of them do Gayatri Mantras.

 

And also I hope all these indians, the land where mother is worshipped

should leave this sacred science. They will gain nothing out of it.

 

This yuga demands people like you who need to use Hammer to deal with

Iron. You know the news last week, a woman was stabbed 20 times in an

open market and all the people just watched shamelessly. Women are

gangraped and people watch shamelessly. Two lovers were killed in public

by the whole town since they did not belong to same Gotra, madness in

this country and we boast about our Sanskriti.

 

I think it is the biggest insult to this sacred list where once K.N.Rao

used to be present where Mother is insulted and people watch

shamelessly, some have the nerve to defend saying both used violence.

Politicians they should be. Would they still watch their mother being

raped and be quiet (use non-violence) about it, as in india we consider

others mothers as ours. So was not Bhaskars mother our mother.

 

I hate lists where fights happen yet at the same time I feel it is these

kind of incidents which actually show what we are really and now I see

what most of the people here are. Just fake jyotish, fake humility, fake

knowledge, fake gyan.

 

I feel you and Prafulla are above them.

 

No Atma Gyan required to see what happened.

 

I wrote this in a hurry, got to beat the evening traffic.

 

Regards,

 

Sushmita

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Sushmitaji,

>

> Its really pleasing to read a truthful fearless post

> from you, and a good addition to the List, to receive

> frank, honest and unbiased comments.

>

> You were on the mark, when you said I speak from the

> heart. This is what gets me into trouble. But its okay, I

> rather be frank and clear,instead of being over diplomatic

> and unfathomable.

>

> Even you speak from the heart it seems,You have mentioned

> all what is happenning in todays times, and witness

> these truths almost in all Forums, PR specialists,

> spineless characters,Campism,one up manship astrologers,

> yes you have projected the true face of todays characters.

>

> I seriously would not mind whipping such people who

> initiate abuses specially on someones mother, it gets

> below the skin, and if I have strength and energy

> in my arms,and a man, then certainly like to make them

> see light, so that they never repeat this again in their

> life even in their dreams. Unfortunately the Internet

> does not allow this pleasure, otherwise the matter

> would have been resolved much earlier. There is no harm,

> the astrologer should learn to shift places and become

> a warrior when situation so demands.

>

> You were also right in your observation that people

> support such foul mouthed, and consider them

> as learned. But then these supporters would always remain

> a part of the masses, and never rise up. In Ramayana it

> has been mentioned clealry who will reign in todays times,

> and whom the general public would like to see themselves

> led by. Its good that we do not figure in that list.

>

> Well it was a great relief to read your mail,I

> had started feeling guilty for no fault of mines, and thank

> God , Shri Prafullaji spoke like a real Man, which he is,

> and now you too have been outspoken enough. probably

> if you people were not here I would have left.

>

> Come again.Keep coming.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , " sushmita34 " sushmita34@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,

> > You look like a man who speaks from his heart. I admire that

quality. I

> > have read some of your threads & am sorry this has happened to you.

> > Where is Ben Collins I do not understand, he used to be liberal yet

> > strict as a Moderator & would not tolerate such crap happening here.

> > Maybe he is on vacation, hold on till he comes back.

> >

> > > And now coming to the moral policing force here,

> > > I request you not to wear bangles in your hand ,

> > > or sleep when some one is attacked without

> > > cause or any reason, and if you have slept that

> > > time or busy wearing a saree,blouse or peticot,

> > > then please keep busy afterwards too, and not

> > > instead advise the person

> > > who was abused, instead of the abuser.

> >

> > Maybe you are new to astrology forums, most members wear bangles &

are

> > PR specialists having acquired Super Duper Phd in it as my friend

calls

> > it. Most astrologers are spineless characters who are only into

Campism

> > a term I read somewhere here before.

> >

> > Sometimes I think argumentative & one up manship astrologers have

done

> > more harm to astrology. People who use foul language have not

understood

> > the sacredness of the shastra this is fairly obvious & to be crude

they

> > must be banned from all lists & maybe whipped ha ha (just trying to

> > bring humour in this madness) . But it seems there are people who

> > support them which is a strange phenomenon & even consider them as

> > Learned Men. How can a person have true knowledge if he has not

captured

> > his senses or least to least respect others views.

> >

> > I see now that some of my old friends in this list have become

corrupted

> > just so that they can be termed as Learned.

> >

> > Sad state of astrology.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Sushmita

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > yesterday the Moderator had issued a request, not to

> > > turn personal. He also expressed appreciation at the

> > > discussion going on to be preserved for posterity,

> > > and also explained this in a beautiful manner.

> > > Immediately after that the mail of Sreenadh comes, full

> > > of abuse. Which means he has no regards for the

> > > Moderator. He himself being the moderator on

> > > his own Forum, should have shownm some better treatment

> > > here, but that much of foresightedness was

> > > not to be seen in his behaviour. He showed

> > > disregard to the owner of this site and the site

> > > itself.

> > >

> > > And now coming to the moral policing force here,

> > > I request you not to wear bangles in your hand ,

> > > or sleep when some one is attacked without

> > > cause or any reason, and if you have slept that

> > > time or busy wearing a saree,blouse or peticot,

> > > then please keep busy afterwards too, and not

> > > instead advise the person

> > > who was abused, instead of the abuser. This is

> > > like repreimanding the girl who was raped, instead

> > > of taking to tasks, the rapists and letting the

> > > rapists going scot free, remember that

> > > those who do not have keen sense of justice and

> > > judgement, can never become good astrologers.

> > >

> > > You chose to remain silent when I was abused,

> > > and then started getting up one by one,

> > > instead of reading the thread and finding out

> > > who started the trouble, jumping at me .

> > > Show this jumping vigour in astrology and not

> > > in chiding innocent people.

> > > and if you have any sense, then leave hos Forum,

> > > if he can abuse a harmless person like me ,

> > > then he can do this with any of you, if you

> > > argue with him tomorrow.

> > > And next time when someone is abused, dont

> > > join the bandwagon to show your misplaced

> > > hitting skills, but use your mind,brains and

> > > heart to assessd the situation, and then hit

> > > the accused, and not the innocent person.

> > >

> > > Hope we shall now get on to astrology, and

> > > leave this nonsense behind us.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> >

>

 

[Guest guest]

Namaste Bhai Sairamanji,

 

Kahan hain aap itne din se ?

If you were on this Forum, then where were you.

I am really pleased to see you here .

 

In bevakoofon par apna jyotish knowledge barbaad

mat kariye, Yeh inke layak nahin hain. Sublord

vagaraih bhi yeh log nahin samjhenge. Inka mind rigid

hai. Joh soch liya, wahi sahi hai.

Preconceived preset notions about people and subjects.

 

Haan Madam ne bilkul sahi message diya hai,joh

yahan ke mardon ko dena chaihye tha pahle.

 

Please write regularly here.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:

>

> sairaman

>

> wounderful message y have given

>

> parihara nt in temple to please people very close to y

>

> saturn labourer, moon mother, sun father guru children and yr guide

, venus wife, mars husband , mercury yr helpingtrader and slibings,

>

> service to human is service to god

>

> displeasing all including boss in yr office and going for pariharas

at temples and pleasing almighty instead of old parents expecting boss

devoted wife etc will help to lead happy peaceful life

>

> in kalapurusha 4th house moon represented by mother 4th also

vechicle house etc

> 2and 7th given to venus wife and ladies help and please them 2nd

house represented in all forms by currency jwellery etc

>

> 3rd house siblings te youngers for yr help hands to go forward

in life

>

> 4th mother there is no end to please them all scriptures praise only

mother the true representative of god till her end words cannot

satisfy her saccrifices

>

> 5th children leo as well as government sun if we are in good terms

peace will reach us

>

> like this we can represent 3every sign and gragha to a human and do

pariaharas ie to accept them and get along with them whate4ver they be

>

> most import is satrurn it is the back bone with out a good labourer

no work can be successful all mansions built on their sweat only

>

> we cannot live in this earth so comfortably without the labour of

the other person in turn we satisfythem with money only after bargaining

>

> i am trying to advocate the above principles at my best so happy in

life settled well god has given every thing in life nothing of short

and want (more important no big designation and no big salary and that

isthe secret of all)

>

> 4th house is mother cot house vechicle land and all comforts in life

if it is linked to venus and 11th house we get everything in life (my

4th sub lord raghu connected to sun 11th sublord in sub of venus 5th

sub lord) all my freinds realtives from mother, wife father side in

very good terms and we are so happy in a very big circle

>

> not only yr mother help all old and sick and try to please them

real saturn parihara we shall achieve everything in life

>

> saturn is 10th house of kalapurusha status and designation and 11th

house achievements he is good friend (trikona) of venus wife money

and contacting person 7th house so we can achieve by pleasing mother

servant wife in all terms

>

> saturn get digbala in 7th house see the seventh house one is mother

moon and other is sun father

>

> thabnk y madam for making me to write this mail

>

> thank y with my regards and best wishes

>

>

>

> sairaman

>

>

>

>

>

sushmita34 <sushmita34 wrote:

> Dear Bhaskar, (and also to Prafulla)

>

> Pls call me Sushmita. The ji sounds as if I am ancient )

>

> I have been too busy in the last 3 months and still am, hence do not

> mind my late reply or no reply at all.

>

> I think Indians are dead and so is Sanskriti, if your mother was

> insulted which I did read and nobody came to defend you, then Shame on

> Indians. I hope none of them do Gayatri Mantras.

>

> And also I hope all these indians, the land where mother is worshipped

> should leave this sacred science. They will gain nothing out of it.

>

> This yuga demands people like you who need to use Hammer to deal with

> Iron. You know the news last week, a woman was stabbed 20 times in an

> open market and all the people just watched shamelessly. Women are

> gangraped and people watch shamelessly. Two lovers were killed in

public

> by the whole town since they did not belong to same Gotra, madness in

> this country and we boast about our Sanskriti.

>

> I think it is the biggest insult to this sacred list where once K.N.Rao

> used to be present where Mother is insulted and people watch

> shamelessly, some have the nerve to defend saying both used violence.

> Politicians they should be. Would they still watch their mother being

> raped and be quiet (use non-violence) about it, as in india we consider

> others mothers as ours. So was not Bhaskars mother our mother.

>

> I hate lists where fights happen yet at the same time I feel it is

these

> kind of incidents which actually show what we are really and now I see

> what most of the people here are. Just fake jyotish, fake humility,

fake

> knowledge, fake gyan.

>

> I feel you and Prafulla are above them.

>

> No Atma Gyan required to see what happened.

>

> I wrote this in a hurry, got to beat the evening traffic.

>

> Regards,

>

> Sushmita

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sushmitaji,

> >

> > Its really pleasing to read a truthful fearless post

> > from you, and a good addition to the List, to receive

> > frank, honest and unbiased comments.

> >

> > You were on the mark, when you said I speak from the

> > heart. This is what gets me into trouble. But its okay, I

> > rather be frank and clear,instead of being over diplomatic

> > and unfathomable.

> >

> > Even you speak from the heart it seems,You have mentioned

> > all what is happenning in todays times, and witness

> > these truths almost in all Forums, PR specialists,

> > spineless characters,Campism,one up manship astrologers,

> > yes you have projected the true face of todays characters.

> >

> > I seriously would not mind whipping such people who

> > initiate abuses specially on someones mother, it gets

> > below the skin, and if I have strength and energy

> > in my arms,and a man, then certainly like to make them

> > see light, so that they never repeat this again in their

> > life even in their dreams. Unfortunately the Internet

> > does not allow this pleasure, otherwise the matter

> > would have been resolved much earlier. There is no harm,

> > the astrologer should learn to shift places and become

> > a warrior when situation so demands.

> >

> > You were also right in your observation that people

> > support such foul mouthed, and consider them

> > as learned. But then these supporters would always remain

> > a part of the masses, and never rise up. In Ramayana it

> > has been mentioned clealry who will reign in todays times,

> > and whom the general public would like to see themselves

> > led by. Its good that we do not figure in that list.

> >

> > Well it was a great relief to read your mail,I

> > had started feeling guilty for no fault of mines, and thank

> > God , Shri Prafullaji spoke like a real Man, which he is,

> > and now you too have been outspoken enough. probably

> > if you people were not here I would have left.

> >

> > Come again.Keep coming.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " sushmita34 " sushmita34@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,

> > > You look like a man who speaks from his heart. I admire that

> quality. I

> > > have read some of your threads & am sorry this has happened to you.

> > > Where is Ben Collins I do not understand, he used to be liberal yet

> > > strict as a Moderator & would not tolerate such crap happening

here.

> > > Maybe he is on vacation, hold on till he comes back.

> > >

> > > > And now coming to the moral policing force here,

> > > > I request you not to wear bangles in your hand ,

> > > > or sleep when some one is attacked without

> > > > cause or any reason, and if you have slept that

> > > > time or busy wearing a saree,blouse or peticot,

> > > > then please keep busy afterwards too, and not

> > > > instead advise the person

> > > > who was abused, instead of the abuser.

> > >

> > > Maybe you are new to astrology forums, most members wear bangles &

> are

> > > PR specialists having acquired Super Duper Phd in it as my friend

> calls

> > > it. Most astrologers are spineless characters who are only into

> Campism

> > > a term I read somewhere here before.

> > >

> > > Sometimes I think argumentative & one up manship astrologers have

> done

> > > more harm to astrology. People who use foul language have not

> understood

> > > the sacredness of the shastra this is fairly obvious & to be crude

> they

> > > must be banned from all lists & maybe whipped ha ha (just trying to

> > > bring humour in this madness) . But it seems there are people who

> > > support them which is a strange phenomenon & even consider them as

> > > Learned Men. How can a person have true knowledge if he has not

> captured

> > > his senses or least to least respect others views.

> > >

> > > I see now that some of my old friends in this list have become

> corrupted

> > > just so that they can be termed as Learned.

> > >

> > > Sad state of astrology.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Sushmita

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > yesterday the Moderator had issued a request, not to

> > > > turn personal. He also expressed appreciation at the

> > > > discussion going on to be preserved for posterity,

> > > > and also explained this in a beautiful manner.

> > > > Immediately after that the mail of Sreenadh comes, full

> > > > of abuse. Which means he has no regards for the

> > > > Moderator. He himself being the moderator on

> > > > his own Forum, should have shownm some better treatment

> > > > here, but that much of foresightedness was

> > > > not to be seen in his behaviour. He showed

> > > > disregard to the owner of this site and the site

> > > > itself.

> > > >

> > > > And now coming to the moral policing force here,

> > > > I request you not to wear bangles in your hand ,

> > > > or sleep when some one is attacked without

> > > > cause or any reason, and if you have slept that

> > > > time or busy wearing a saree,blouse or peticot,

> > > > then please keep busy afterwards too, and not

> > > > instead advise the person

> > > > who was abused, instead of the abuser. This is

> > > > like repreimanding the girl who was raped, instead

> > > > of taking to tasks, the rapists and letting the

> > > > rapists going scot free, remember that

> > > > those who do not have keen sense of justice and

> > > > judgement, can never become good astrologers.

> > > >

> > > > You chose to remain silent when I was abused,

> > > > and then started getting up one by one,

> > > > instead of reading the thread and finding out

> > > > who started the trouble, jumping at me .

> > > > Show this jumping vigour in astrology and not

> > > > in chiding innocent people.

> > > > and if you have any sense, then leave hos Forum,

> > > > if he can abuse a harmless person like me ,

> > > > then he can do this with any of you, if you

> > > > argue with him tomorrow.

> > > > And next time when someone is abused, dont

> > > > join the bandwagon to show your misplaced

> > > > hitting skills, but use your mind,brains and

> > > > heart to assessd the situation, and then hit

> > > > the accused, and not the innocent person.

> > > >

> > > > Hope we shall now get on to astrology, and

> > > > leave this nonsense behind us.

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

Geninunely speaking...we know 2 methods to reply

 

first one to speak abusive language and taking complete family in

it,not just mother's sacred name. its very easy

and another is to keep silent to maintain the decoram / our status

too.

 

and the person who is wrong generally starts to speak abusive

initally. So he proved that he was a wrong person and was misguiding

people with his thoughts, and so finally he has to leave forum.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Namaste Bhai Sairamanji,

>

> Kahan hain aap itne din se ?

> If you were on this Forum, then where were you.

> I am really pleased to see you here .

>

> In bevakoofon par apna jyotish knowledge barbaad

> mat kariye, Yeh inke layak nahin hain. Sublord

> vagaraih bhi yeh log nahin samjhenge. Inka mind rigid

> hai. Joh soch liya, wahi sahi hai.

> Preconceived preset notions about people and subjects.

>

> Haan Madam ne bilkul sahi message diya hai,joh

> yahan ke mardon ko dena chaihye tha pahle.

>

> Please write regularly here.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , sairam nat <sairaman53@> wrote:

> >

> > sairaman

> >

> > wounderful message y have given

> >

> > parihara nt in temple to please people very close to y

> >

> > saturn labourer, moon mother, sun father guru children and yr

guide

> , venus wife, mars husband , mercury yr helpingtrader and slibings,

> >

> > service to human is service to god

> >

> > displeasing all including boss in yr office and going for

pariharas

> at temples and pleasing almighty instead of old parents expecting

boss

> devoted wife etc will help to lead happy peaceful life

> >

> > in kalapurusha 4th house moon represented by mother 4th also

> vechicle house etc

> > 2and 7th given to venus wife and ladies help and please them 2nd

> house represented in all forms by currency jwellery etc

> >

> > 3rd house siblings te youngers for yr help hands to go forward

> in life

> >

> > 4th mother there is no end to please them all scriptures praise

only

> mother the true representative of god till her end words cannot

> satisfy her saccrifices

> >

> > 5th children leo as well as government sun if we are in good terms

> peace will reach us

> >

> > like this we can represent 3every sign and gragha to a human and

do

> pariaharas ie to accept them and get along with them whate4ver they

be

> >

> > most import is satrurn it is the back bone with out a good

labourer

> no work can be successful all mansions built on their sweat only

> >

> > we cannot live in this earth so comfortably without the labour of

> the other person in turn we satisfythem with money only after

bargaining

> >

> > i am trying to advocate the above principles at my best so happy

in

> life settled well god has given every thing in life nothing of short

> and want (more important no big designation and no big salary and

that

> isthe secret of all)

> >

> > 4th house is mother cot house vechicle land and all comforts in

life

> if it is linked to venus and 11th house we get everything in life

(my

> 4th sub lord raghu connected to sun 11th sublord in sub of venus 5th

> sub lord) all my freinds realtives from mother, wife father side in

> very good terms and we are so happy in a very big circle

> >

> > not only yr mother help all old and sick and try to please

them

> real saturn parihara we shall achieve everything in life

> >

> > saturn is 10th house of kalapurusha status and designation and

11th

> house achievements he is good friend (trikona) of venus wife money

> and contacting person 7th house so we can achieve by pleasing mother

> servant wife in all terms

> >

> > saturn get digbala in 7th house see the seventh house one is

mother

> moon and other is sun father

> >

> > thabnk y madam for making me to write this mail

> >

> > thank y with my regards and best wishes

> >

> >

> >

> > sairaman

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sushmita34 <sushmita34@> wrote:

> > Dear Bhaskar, (and also to Prafulla)

> >

> > Pls call me Sushmita. The ji sounds as if I am ancient )

> >

> > I have been too busy in the last 3 months and still am, hence do

not

> > mind my late reply or no reply at all.

> >

> > I think Indians are dead and so is Sanskriti, if your mother was

> > insulted which I did read and nobody came to defend you, then

Shame on

> > Indians. I hope none of them do Gayatri Mantras.

> >

> > And also I hope all these indians, the land where mother is

worshipped

> > should leave this sacred science. They will gain nothing out of

it.

> >

> > This yuga demands people like you who need to use Hammer to deal

with

> > Iron. You know the news last week, a woman was stabbed 20 times

in an

> > open market and all the people just watched shamelessly. Women

are

> > gangraped and people watch shamelessly. Two lovers were killed in

> public

> > by the whole town since they did not belong to same Gotra,

madness in

> > this country and we boast about our Sanskriti.

> >

> > I think it is the biggest insult to this sacred list where once

K.N.Rao

> > used to be present where Mother is insulted and people watch

> > shamelessly, some have the nerve to defend saying both used

violence.

> > Politicians they should be. Would they still watch their mother

being

> > raped and be quiet (use non-violence) about it, as in india we

consider

> > others mothers as ours. So was not Bhaskars mother our mother.

> >

> > I hate lists where fights happen yet at the same time I feel it

is

> these

> > kind of incidents which actually show what we are really and now

I see

> > what most of the people here are. Just fake jyotish, fake

humility,

> fake

> > knowledge, fake gyan.

> >

> > I feel you and Prafulla are above them.

> >

> > No Atma Gyan required to see what happened.

> >

> > I wrote this in a hurry, got to beat the evening traffic.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sushmita

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sushmitaji,

> > >

> > > Its really pleasing to read a truthful fearless post

> > > from you, and a good addition to the List, to receive

> > > frank, honest and unbiased comments.

> > >

> > > You were on the mark, when you said I speak from the

> > > heart. This is what gets me into trouble. But its okay, I

> > > rather be frank and clear,instead of being over diplomatic

> > > and unfathomable.

> > >

> > > Even you speak from the heart it seems,You have mentioned

> > > all what is happenning in todays times, and witness

> > > these truths almost in all Forums, PR specialists,

> > > spineless characters,Campism,one up manship astrologers,

> > > yes you have projected the true face of todays characters.

> > >

> > > I seriously would not mind whipping such people who

> > > initiate abuses specially on someones mother, it gets

> > > below the skin, and if I have strength and energy

> > > in my arms,and a man, then certainly like to make them

> > > see light, so that they never repeat this again in their

> > > life even in their dreams. Unfortunately the Internet

> > > does not allow this pleasure, otherwise the matter

> > > would have been resolved much earlier. There is no harm,

> > > the astrologer should learn to shift places and become

> > > a warrior when situation so demands.

> > >

> > > You were also right in your observation that people

> > > support such foul mouthed, and consider them

> > > as learned. But then these supporters would always remain

> > > a part of the masses, and never rise up. In Ramayana it

> > > has been mentioned clealry who will reign in todays times,

> > > and whom the general public would like to see themselves

> > > led by. Its good that we do not figure in that list.

> > >

> > > Well it was a great relief to read your mail,I

> > > had started feeling guilty for no fault of mines, and thank

> > > God , Shri Prafullaji spoke like a real Man, which he is,

> > > and now you too have been outspoken enough. probably

> > > if you people were not here I would have left.

> > >

> > > Come again.Keep coming.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " sushmita34 " sushmita34@

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,

> > > > You look like a man who speaks from his heart. I admire that

> > quality. I

> > > > have read some of your threads & am sorry this has happened

to you.

> > > > Where is Ben Collins I do not understand, he used to be

liberal yet

> > > > strict as a Moderator & would not tolerate such crap

happening

> here.

> > > > Maybe he is on vacation, hold on till he comes back.

> > > >

> > > > > And now coming to the moral policing force here,

> > > > > I request you not to wear bangles in your hand ,

> > > > > or sleep when some one is attacked without

> > > > > cause or any reason, and if you have slept that

> > > > > time or busy wearing a saree,blouse or peticot,

> > > > > then please keep busy afterwards too, and not

> > > > > instead advise the person

> > > > > who was abused, instead of the abuser.

> > > >

> > > > Maybe you are new to astrology forums, most members wear

bangles &

> > are

> > > > PR specialists having acquired Super Duper Phd in it as my

friend

> > calls

> > > > it. Most astrologers are spineless characters who are only

into

> > Campism

> > > > a term I read somewhere here before.

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes I think argumentative & one up manship astrologers

have

> > done

> > > > more harm to astrology. People who use foul language have not

> > understood

> > > > the sacredness of the shastra this is fairly obvious & to be

crude

> > they

> > > > must be banned from all lists & maybe whipped ha ha (just

trying to

> > > > bring humour in this madness) . But it seems there are

people who

> > > > support them which is a strange phenomenon & even consider

them as

> > > > Learned Men. How can a person have true knowledge if he has

not

> > captured

> > > > his senses or least to least respect others views.

> > > >

> > > > I see now that some of my old friends in this list have

become

> > corrupted

> > > > just so that they can be termed as Learned.

> > > >

> > > > Sad state of astrology.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Sushmita

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > yesterday the Moderator had issued a request, not to

> > > > > turn personal. He also expressed appreciation at the

> > > > > discussion going on to be preserved for posterity,

> > > > > and also explained this in a beautiful manner.

> > > > > Immediately after that the mail of Sreenadh comes, full

> > > > > of abuse. Which means he has no regards for the

> > > > > Moderator. He himself being the moderator on

> > > > > his own Forum, should have shownm some better treatment

> > > > > here, but that much of foresightedness was

> > > > > not to be seen in his behaviour. He showed

> > > > > disregard to the owner of this site and the site

> > > > > itself.

> > > > >

> > > > > And now coming to the moral policing force here,

> > > > > I request you not to wear bangles in your hand ,

> > > > > or sleep when some one is attacked without

> > > > > cause or any reason, and if you have slept that

> > > > > time or busy wearing a saree,blouse or peticot,

> > > > > then please keep busy afterwards too, and not

> > > > > instead advise the person

> > > > > who was abused, instead of the abuser. This is

> > > > > like repreimanding the girl who was raped, instead

> > > > > of taking to tasks, the rapists and letting the

> > > > > rapists going scot free, remember that

> > > > > those who do not have keen sense of justice and

> > > > > judgement, can never become good astrologers.

> > > > >

> > > > > You chose to remain silent when I was abused,

> > > > > and then started getting up one by one,

> > > > > instead of reading the thread and finding out

> > > > > who started the trouble, jumping at me .

> > > > > Show this jumping vigour in astrology and not

> > > > > in chiding innocent people.

> > > > > and if you have any sense, then leave hos Forum,

> > > > > if he can abuse a harmless person like me ,

> > > > > then he can do this with any of you, if you

> > > > > argue with him tomorrow.

> > > > > And next time when someone is abused, dont

> > > > > join the bandwagon to show your misplaced

> > > > > hitting skills, but use your mind,brains and

> > > > > heart to assessd the situation, and then hit

> > > > > the accused, and not the innocent person.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope we shall now get on to astrology, and

> > > > > leave this nonsense behind us.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >