Navamsa Chart and Shri Santhanam's perspective:/When did i misquote?

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Dear Parfulla ji

 

I have one request.

Kindly read all my mails before you say i have misquoted.

If members participating in the debate are not interested in reading

mails,why should i write so many mails in the first place.

 

What you have written is totally against what i have been writing.

 

I have only said Late Santhanam does not use aspects and he has even

expressed his concern.Pls see the PVR example on Lagna shadvargake

and what i have said.

 

Then i clearly said,Shri Santhanam was unable to explain Lagna

shadvargake shloka(His own acceptance).

 

Then i had said,Shri Santhanam went with a conclusion that vargas

are full charts and thus was unable to interpret,though he rightly

identified non-possibility of aspects.

 

Then i had compared views of many and said Late Subburao opposed

aspects as well as bhavas.

 

Then i said if Late santhanam was fortunate to read manuscripts BPHS

translation would had been a different story.

 

Where did i misquote.Pls ,double check before you make allegations.

 

Regds

Pradeep

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> Shri Pradeep misquoted late Santhanam - for the usability of

Navamsa Chakra.

>

> First - he always maintained that Navamsa chart exists, contrary

to Shri Pradeep's view that there is no such independent D9 chart.

> Second - Aspects in D9 are considered, and so is the yogas.

>

> I take two readings of late Santhanam in his TOA / personal

discussions to clarify his perspective:

>

> Chart 1 - 26 Aug 1956; 4.10 IST; 28N39 / 77E13

>

> D1 chart -Lagna karka - sun/jup in leo; merc in kanya; sat/rahu in

scorpio; mars ® in kumbha; moon in pisces; venus in mithuna

>

> Navamsa - scorpio lagna; rahu in libra; merc in kumbha; moon in

pisces; ketu in aries; venus in taurus; sun/mars in mithuna; shani

in leo; jup in kanya

>

> His quote " In the Navamsa Diagram - we find two favourable

combinations for early marriage: Venus in the 7th from ascendant and

Jupiter in 7th from moon "

>

> My Point - he was categoric on both the issues, which are main

contentions of the thread, unless diverted.

>

> Chart 2 - female borne on Dec 21, 1971 at 9.01 hrs IST, Delhi

> D1 chart - lagna - makara; sun in dhanu; venus / moon/rahu in

makara; mars in pisces; saturn ® in taurus; Jup / Mer-R in scorpio

>

> navamsa chakra - makara lagna; jup / venus in kumbha; sat in

pisces; rahu in mesha; sun / moon in taurus; mars in karka; merc in

dhanu

>

> His quote - " 'the moment jupiter comes to capricorn - marriage

proposal may effectively set in for capricorn - which is also the

navamsa ascendant. "

> if one may refer toi further timing of marriage date - he has

linked to jupiter's progress in taurus navamsa.

>

> I did post one more chart - yesterday (in reply to Sunil John) -

there too he has referred Navamsa chart.

>

> It is quite clear that late Santhanam referred Navamsa chart; he

referred to combination; and he referred to transit. Knowing his

superior committment and knowledge, I do not feel that - he can make

such a blunder.

>

>

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

> http://www.prafulla.net

>

> A little boost to the ego is undeniably exhilarating, but ask

yourself if the initial excitement is worth the spiritual hangover.

Remind yourself that real self-esteem is built on more substantial

activities.

>

> In order to live free and happily - you must sacrifice boredom. It

is not always an easy sacrifice.

> ************************************************

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Pradeep ji

 

I have explained from Late Santhanam's post on the aspect / transit in

D9. Is opposition of two planets not an aspect?

 

In my yesterday's mail (another mail in reply to Shri Sunil John's

mail) - I mentioned Late Santhanam saying Jupiter and Venus in 1/7 in

D9 charts will help in married life. That was also with reference to

aspect and combination only.

 

Well - I never commented about his interpretation of shloka by Late

Santhanam; or by Shri Narasimha - (as I clarified that due to language

constraint - I never went beyond commentaries and case studies).

 

I have not put any allegation; but expressed that - Late santhanam is

misquoted on Usability of Navamsha in terms of existence, aspects and

combination.

 

I have quoted all his applications from his case studies.

 

regards / Prafulla

 

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Parfulla ji

>

> I have one request.

> Kindly read all my mails before you say i have misquoted.

> If members participating in the debate are not interested in reading

> mails,why should i write so many mails in the first place.

>

> What you have written is totally against what i have been writing.

>

> I have only said Late Santhanam does not use aspects and he has even

> expressed his concern.Pls see the PVR example on Lagna shadvargake

> and what i have said.

>

> Then i clearly said,Shri Santhanam was unable to explain Lagna

> shadvargake shloka(His own acceptance).

>

> Then i had said,Shri Santhanam went with a conclusion that vargas

> are full charts and thus was unable to interpret,though he rightly

> identified non-possibility of aspects.

>

> Then i had compared views of many and said Late Subburao opposed

> aspects as well as bhavas.

>

> Then i said if Late santhanam was fortunate to read manuscripts BPHS

> translation would had been a different story.

>

> Where did i misquote.Pls ,double check before you make allegations.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > Shri Pradeep misquoted late Santhanam - for the usability of

> Navamsa Chakra.

> >

> > First - he always maintained that Navamsa chart exists, contrary

> to Shri Pradeep's view that there is no such independent D9 chart.

> > Second - Aspects in D9 are considered, and so is the yogas.

> >

> > I take two readings of late Santhanam in his TOA / personal

> discussions to clarify his perspective:

> >

> > Chart 1 - 26 Aug 1956; 4.10 IST; 28N39 / 77E13

> >

> > D1 chart -Lagna karka - sun/jup in leo; merc in kanya; sat/rahu in

> scorpio; mars ® in kumbha; moon in pisces; venus in mithuna

> >

> > Navamsa - scorpio lagna; rahu in libra; merc in kumbha; moon in

> pisces; ketu in aries; venus in taurus; sun/mars in mithuna; shani

> in leo; jup in kanya

> >

> > His quote " In the Navamsa Diagram - we find two favourable

> combinations for early marriage: Venus in the 7th from ascendant and

> Jupiter in 7th from moon "

> >

> > My Point - he was categoric on both the issues, which are main

> contentions of the thread, unless diverted.

> >

> > Chart 2 - female borne on Dec 21, 1971 at 9.01 hrs IST, Delhi

> > D1 chart - lagna - makara; sun in dhanu; venus / moon/rahu in

> makara; mars in pisces; saturn ® in taurus; Jup / Mer-R in scorpio

> >

> > navamsa chakra - makara lagna; jup / venus in kumbha; sat in

> pisces; rahu in mesha; sun / moon in taurus; mars in karka; merc in

> dhanu

> >

> > His quote - " 'the moment jupiter comes to capricorn - marriage

> proposal may effectively set in for capricorn - which is also the

> navamsa ascendant. "

> > if one may refer toi further timing of marriage date - he has

> linked to jupiter's progress in taurus navamsa.

> >

> > I did post one more chart - yesterday (in reply to Sunil John) -

> there too he has referred Navamsa chart.

> >

> > It is quite clear that late Santhanam referred Navamsa chart; he

> referred to combination; and he referred to transit. Knowing his

> superior committment and knowledge, I do not feel that - he can make

> such a blunder.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > http://www.prafulla.net

> >

> > A little boost to the ego is undeniably exhilarating, but ask

> yourself if the initial excitement is worth the spiritual hangover.

> Remind yourself that real self-esteem is built on more substantial

> activities.

> >

> > In order to live free and happily - you must sacrifice boredom. It

> is not always an easy sacrifice.

> > ************************************************

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Prabhulla ji

 

There was a misquote.

I have never talked about his usage of bhavas.

 

But in BPHS he did mention that the rules for aspects are clearly

mentioned by sage and hence it is NOT possible as per those rules.

 

Kidn Regds

Pradeep

 

, " Prafulla Gang " <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep ji

>

> I have explained from Late Santhanam's post on the aspect /

transit in

> D9. Is opposition of two planets not an aspect?

>

> In my yesterday's mail (another mail in reply to Shri Sunil John's

> mail) - I mentioned Late Santhanam saying Jupiter and Venus in 1/7

in

> D9 charts will help in married life. That was also with reference

to

> aspect and combination only.

>

> Well - I never commented about his interpretation of shloka by Late

> Santhanam; or by Shri Narasimha - (as I clarified that due to

language

> constraint - I never went beyond commentaries and case studies).

>

> I have not put any allegation; but expressed that - Late santhanam

is

> misquoted on Usability of Navamsha in terms of existence, aspects

and

> combination.

>

> I have quoted all his applications from his case studies.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Parfulla ji

> >

> > I have one request.

> > Kindly read all my mails before you say i have misquoted.

> > If members participating in the debate are not interested in

reading

> > mails,why should i write so many mails in the first place.

> >

> > What you have written is totally against what i have been

writing.

> >

> > I have only said Late Santhanam does not use aspects and he has

even

> > expressed his concern.Pls see the PVR example on Lagna

shadvargake

> > and what i have said.

> >

> > Then i clearly said,Shri Santhanam was unable to explain Lagna

> > shadvargake shloka(His own acceptance).

> >

> > Then i had said,Shri Santhanam went with a conclusion that

vargas

> > are full charts and thus was unable to interpret,though he

rightly

> > identified non-possibility of aspects.

> >

> > Then i had compared views of many and said Late Subburao opposed

> > aspects as well as bhavas.

> >

> > Then i said if Late santhanam was fortunate to read manuscripts

BPHS

> > translation would had been a different story.

> >

> > Where did i misquote.Pls ,double check before you make

allegations.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Shri Pradeep misquoted late Santhanam - for the usability of

> > Navamsa Chakra.

> > >

> > > First - he always maintained that Navamsa chart exists,

contrary

> > to Shri Pradeep's view that there is no such independent D9

chart.

> > > Second - Aspects in D9 are considered, and so is the yogas.

> > >

> > > I take two readings of late Santhanam in his TOA / personal

> > discussions to clarify his perspective:

> > >

> > > Chart 1 - 26 Aug 1956; 4.10 IST; 28N39 / 77E13

> > >

> > > D1 chart -Lagna karka - sun/jup in leo; merc in kanya;

sat/rahu in

> > scorpio; mars ® in kumbha; moon in pisces; venus in mithuna

> > >

> > > Navamsa - scorpio lagna; rahu in libra; merc in kumbha; moon

in

> > pisces; ketu in aries; venus in taurus; sun/mars in mithuna;

shani

> > in leo; jup in kanya

> > >

> > > His quote " In the Navamsa Diagram - we find two favourable

> > combinations for early marriage: Venus in the 7th from ascendant

and

> > Jupiter in 7th from moon "

> > >

> > > My Point - he was categoric on both the issues, which are main

> > contentions of the thread, unless diverted.

> > >

> > > Chart 2 - female borne on Dec 21, 1971 at 9.01 hrs IST, Delhi

> > > D1 chart - lagna - makara; sun in dhanu; venus / moon/rahu in

> > makara; mars in pisces; saturn ® in taurus; Jup / Mer-R in

scorpio

> > >

> > > navamsa chakra - makara lagna; jup / venus in kumbha; sat in

> > pisces; rahu in mesha; sun / moon in taurus; mars in karka; merc

in

> > dhanu

> > >

> > > His quote - " 'the moment jupiter comes to capricorn - marriage

> > proposal may effectively set in for capricorn - which is also

the

> > navamsa ascendant. "

> > > if one may refer toi further timing of marriage date - he has

> > linked to jupiter's progress in taurus navamsa.

> > >

> > > I did post one more chart - yesterday (in reply to Sunil

John) -

> > there too he has referred Navamsa chart.

> > >

> > > It is quite clear that late Santhanam referred Navamsa chart;

he

> > referred to combination; and he referred to transit. Knowing his

> > superior committment and knowledge, I do not feel that - he can

make

> > such a blunder.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > http://www.prafulla.net

> > >

> > > A little boost to the ego is undeniably exhilarating, but ask

> > yourself if the initial excitement is worth the spiritual

hangover.

> > Remind yourself that real self-esteem is built on more

substantial

> > activities.

> > >

> > > In order to live free and happily - you must sacrifice

boredom. It

> > is not always an easy sacrifice.

> > > ************************************************

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Prafulla,

 

You said:

 

" In my yesterday's mail (another mail in reply to Shri Sunil

John's mail) - I mentioned Late Santhanam saying Jupiter and

Venus in 1/7 in D9 charts will help in married life. That was

also with reference to aspect and combination only. "

 

Do you mean to say that Jupiter and Venus should be in 1/7 axis

or just 7th from each other in D9?

 

I have Jupiter and Venus aspecting each other (7th house aspect

and not in 1/7 axis) in my D9. My married life is quite peaceful

so far after 23 years of marriage.

 

I notice that Jupiter and Venus are at Kendras from each other

in my wife's D9 chart. Could it give a similar effect, probably

with a lower intensity?

 

Just thought of giving a data point for the dictum stated.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

--- Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

 

> Dear Pradeep ji

>

> I have explained from Late Santhanam's post on the aspect /

> transit in

> D9. Is opposition of two planets not an aspect?

>

> In my yesterday's mail (another mail in reply to Shri Sunil

> John's

> mail) - I mentioned Late Santhanam saying Jupiter and Venus in

> 1/7 in

> D9 charts will help in married life. That was also with

> reference to

> aspect and combination only.

>

> Well - I never commented about his interpretation of shloka by

> Late

> Santhanam; or by Shri Narasimha - (as I clarified that due to

> language

> constraint - I never went beyond commentaries and case

> studies).

>

> I have not put any allegation; but expressed that - Late

> santhanam is

> misquoted on Usability of Navamsha in terms of existence,

> aspects and

> combination.

>

> I have quoted all his applications from his case studies.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > Dear Parfulla ji

> >

> > I have one request.

> > Kindly read all my mails before you say i have misquoted.

> > If members participating in the debate are not interested in

> reading

> > mails,why should i write so many mails in the first place.

> >

> > What you have written is totally against what i have been

> writing.

> >

> > I have only said Late Santhanam does not use aspects and he

> has even

> > expressed his concern.Pls see the PVR example on Lagna

> shadvargake

> > and what i have said.

> >

> > Then i clearly said,Shri Santhanam was unable to explain

> Lagna

> > shadvargake shloka(His own acceptance).

> >

> > Then i had said,Shri Santhanam went with a conclusion that

> vargas

> > are full charts and thus was unable to interpret,though he

> rightly

> > identified non-possibility of aspects.

> >

> > Then i had compared views of many and said Late Subburao

> opposed

> > aspects as well as bhavas.

> >

> > Then i said if Late santhanam was fortunate to read

> manuscripts BPHS

> > translation would had been a different story.

> >

> > Where did i misquote.Pls ,double check before you make

> allegations.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> > , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Shri Pradeep misquoted late Santhanam - for the usability

> of

> > Navamsa Chakra.

> > >

> > > First - he always maintained that Navamsa chart exists,

> contrary

> > to Shri Pradeep's view that there is no such independent D9

> chart.

> > > Second - Aspects in D9 are considered, and so is the

> yogas.

> > >

> > > I take two readings of late Santhanam in his TOA /

> personal

> > discussions to clarify his perspective:

> > >

> > > Chart 1 - 26 Aug 1956; 4.10 IST; 28N39 / 77E13

> > >

> > > D1 chart -Lagna karka - sun/jup in leo; merc in kanya;

> sat/rahu in

> > scorpio; mars ® in kumbha; moon in pisces; venus in

> mithuna

> > >

> > > Navamsa - scorpio lagna; rahu in libra; merc in kumbha;

> moon in

> > pisces; ketu in aries; venus in taurus; sun/mars in mithuna;

> shani

> > in leo; jup in kanya

> > >

> > > His quote " In the Navamsa Diagram - we find two

> favourable

> > combinations for early marriage: Venus in the 7th from

> ascendant and

> > Jupiter in 7th from moon "

> > >

> > > My Point - he was categoric on both the issues, which are

> main

> > contentions of the thread, unless diverted.

> > >

> > > Chart 2 - female borne on Dec 21, 1971 at 9.01 hrs IST,

> Delhi

> > > D1 chart - lagna - makara; sun in dhanu; venus / moon/rahu

> in

> > makara; mars in pisces; saturn ® in taurus; Jup / Mer-R in

> scorpio

> > >

> > > navamsa chakra - makara lagna; jup / venus in kumbha; sat

> in

> > pisces; rahu in mesha; sun / moon in taurus; mars in karka;

> merc in

> > dhanu

> > >

> > > His quote - " 'the moment jupiter comes to capricorn -

> marriage

> > proposal may effectively set in for capricorn - which is

> also the

> > navamsa ascendant. "

> > > if one may refer toi further timing of marriage date - he

> has

> > linked to jupiter's progress in taurus navamsa.

> > >

> > > I did post one more chart - yesterday (in reply to Sunil

> John) -

> > there too he has referred Navamsa chart.

> > >

> > > It is quite clear that late Santhanam referred Navamsa

> chart; he

> > referred to combination; and he referred to transit. Knowing

> his

> > superior committment and knowledge, I do not feel that - he

> can make

> > such a blunder.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > http://www.prafulla.net

> > >

> > > A little boost to the ego is undeniably exhilarating, but

> ask

> > yourself if the initial excitement is worth the spiritual

> hangover.

> > Remind yourself that real self-esteem is built on more

> substantial

> > activities.

> > >

> > > In order to live free and happily - you must sacrifice

> boredom. It

> > is not always an easy sacrifice.

> > > ************************************************

> > >

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Krishna ji

 

Please read my reply underneath your comments.

 

>

> " In my yesterday's mail (another mail in reply to Shri Sunil

> John's mail) - I mentioned Late Santhanam saying Jupiter and

> Venus in 1/7 in D9 charts will help in married life. That was

> also with reference to aspect and combination only. "

>

> Do you mean to say that Jupiter and Venus should be in 1/7 axis

> or just 7th from each other in D9?

 

[Prafulla] - In that specific chart - He referred to mutual aspects of

Jupiter / Venus as balancing factor for happy married life; and in

that specific chart - it was on 1/ 7 axis. But the rationale, as I

could gather in that conversation - was mutual aspects of Jupiter and

Venus in D9 chart.

 

This I recalled - for the perspective that, late Santhanam did

consider mutual positions of relevant planets in Navamsa chart. and he

demonstrated in many case studies in TOA issues.

 

>

> I have Jupiter and Venus aspecting each other (7th house aspect

> and not in 1/7 axis) in my D9. My married life is quite peaceful

> so far after 23 years of marriage.

>

> I notice that Jupiter and Venus are at Kendras from each other

> in my wife's D9 chart. Could it give a similar effect, probably

> with a lower intensity?

>

 

[Prafulla] Well, I have not tested this on mutual kendra in D9 chart;

so it may not be correct on my part to form an opinion.

 

Warm regards / Prafulla

 

 

>

>

> --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

>

> > Dear Pradeep ji

> >

> > I have explained from Late Santhanam's post on the aspect /

> > transit in

> > D9. Is opposition of two planets not an aspect?

> >

> > In my yesterday's mail (another mail in reply to Shri Sunil

> > John's

> > mail) - I mentioned Late Santhanam saying Jupiter and Venus in

> > 1/7 in

> > D9 charts will help in married life. That was also with

> > reference to

> > aspect and combination only.

> >

> > Well - I never commented about his interpretation of shloka by

> > Late

> > Santhanam; or by Shri Narasimha - (as I clarified that due to

> > language

> > constraint - I never went beyond commentaries and case

> > studies).

> >

> > I have not put any allegation; but expressed that - Late

> > santhanam is

> > misquoted on Usability of Navamsha in terms of existence,

> > aspects and

> > combination.

> >

> > I have quoted all his applications from his case studies.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla

> >

> > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Parfulla ji

> > >

> > > I have one request.

> > > Kindly read all my mails before you say i have misquoted.

> > > If members participating in the debate are not interested in

> > reading

> > > mails,why should i write so many mails in the first place.

> > >

> > > What you have written is totally against what i have been

> > writing.

> > >

> > > I have only said Late Santhanam does not use aspects and he

> > has even

> > > expressed his concern.Pls see the PVR example on Lagna

> > shadvargake

> > > and what i have said.

> > >

> > > Then i clearly said,Shri Santhanam was unable to explain

> > Lagna

> > > shadvargake shloka(His own acceptance).

> > >

> > > Then i had said,Shri Santhanam went with a conclusion that

> > vargas

> > > are full charts and thus was unable to interpret,though he

> > rightly

> > > identified non-possibility of aspects.

> > >

> > > Then i had compared views of many and said Late Subburao

> > opposed

> > > aspects as well as bhavas.

> > >

> > > Then i said if Late santhanam was fortunate to read

> > manuscripts BPHS

> > > translation would had been a different story.

> > >

> > > Where did i misquote.Pls ,double check before you make

> > allegations.

> > >

> > > Regds

> > > Pradeep

> > > , Prafulla Gang

> > <jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > Shri Pradeep misquoted late Santhanam - for the usability

> > of

> > > Navamsa Chakra.

> > > >

> > > > First - he always maintained that Navamsa chart exists,

> > contrary

> > > to Shri Pradeep's view that there is no such independent D9

> > chart.

> > > > Second - Aspects in D9 are considered, and so is the

> > yogas.

> > > >

> > > > I take two readings of late Santhanam in his TOA /

> > personal

> > > discussions to clarify his perspective:

> > > >

> > > > Chart 1 - 26 Aug 1956; 4.10 IST; 28N39 / 77E13

> > > >

> > > > D1 chart -Lagna karka - sun/jup in leo; merc in kanya;

> > sat/rahu in

> > > scorpio; mars ® in kumbha; moon in pisces; venus in

> > mithuna

> > > >

> > > > Navamsa - scorpio lagna; rahu in libra; merc in kumbha;

> > moon in

> > > pisces; ketu in aries; venus in taurus; sun/mars in mithuna;

> > shani

> > > in leo; jup in kanya

> > > >

> > > > His quote " In the Navamsa Diagram - we find two

> > favourable

> > > combinations for early marriage: Venus in the 7th from

> > ascendant and

> > > Jupiter in 7th from moon "

> > > >

> > > > My Point - he was categoric on both the issues, which are

> > main

> > > contentions of the thread, unless diverted.

> > > >

> > > > Chart 2 - female borne on Dec 21, 1971 at 9.01 hrs IST,

> > Delhi

> > > > D1 chart - lagna - makara; sun in dhanu; venus / moon/rahu

> > in

> > > makara; mars in pisces; saturn ® in taurus; Jup / Mer-R in

> > scorpio

> > > >

> > > > navamsa chakra - makara lagna; jup / venus in kumbha; sat

> > in

> > > pisces; rahu in mesha; sun / moon in taurus; mars in karka;

> > merc in

> > > dhanu

> > > >

> > > > His quote - " 'the moment jupiter comes to capricorn -

> > marriage

> > > proposal may effectively set in for capricorn - which is

> > also the

> > > navamsa ascendant. "

> > > > if one may refer toi further timing of marriage date - he

> > has

> > > linked to jupiter's progress in taurus navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > I did post one more chart - yesterday (in reply to Sunil

> > John) -

> > > there too he has referred Navamsa chart.

> > > >

> > > > It is quite clear that late Santhanam referred Navamsa

> > chart; he

> > > referred to combination; and he referred to transit. Knowing

> > his

> > > superior committment and knowledge, I do not feel that - he

> > can make

> > > such a blunder.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > http://www.prafulla.net

> > > >

> > > > A little boost to the ego is undeniably exhilarating, but

> > ask

> > > yourself if the initial excitement is worth the spiritual

> > hangover.

> > > Remind yourself that real self-esteem is built on more

> > substantial

> > > activities.

> > > >

> > > > In order to live free and happily - you must sacrifice

> > boredom. It

> > > is not always an easy sacrifice.

> > > > ************************************************

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Prafulla,

 

Thanks for your clarifications.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

 

> Dear Krishna ji

>

> Please read my reply underneath your comments.

>

> >

> > " In my yesterday's mail (another mail in reply to Shri Sunil

> > John's mail) - I mentioned Late Santhanam saying Jupiter and

> > Venus in 1/7 in D9 charts will help in married life. That

> was

> > also with reference to aspect and combination only. "

> >

> > Do you mean to say that Jupiter and Venus should be in 1/7

> axis

> > or just 7th from each other in D9?

>

> [Prafulla] - In that specific chart - He referred to mutual

> aspects of

> Jupiter / Venus as balancing factor for happy married life;

> and in

> that specific chart - it was on 1/ 7 axis. But the rationale,

> as I

> could gather in that conversation - was mutual aspects of

> Jupiter and

> Venus in D9 chart.

>

> This I recalled - for the perspective that, late Santhanam did

> consider mutual positions of relevant planets in Navamsa

> chart. and he

> demonstrated in many case studies in TOA issues.

>

> >

> > I have Jupiter and Venus aspecting each other (7th house

> aspect

> > and not in 1/7 axis) in my D9. My married life is quite

> peaceful

> > so far after 23 years of marriage.

> >

> > I notice that Jupiter and Venus are at Kendras from each

> other

> > in my wife's D9 chart. Could it give a similar effect,

> probably

> > with a lower intensity?

> >

>

> [Prafulla] Well, I have not tested this on mutual kendra in D9

> chart;

> so it may not be correct on my part to form an opinion.

>

> Warm regards / Prafulla

>

>

> >

> >

> > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Pradeep ji

> > >

> > > I have explained from Late Santhanam's post on the aspect

> /

> > > transit in

> > > D9. Is opposition of two planets not an aspect?

> > >

> > > In my yesterday's mail (another mail in reply to Shri

> Sunil

> > > John's

> > > mail) - I mentioned Late Santhanam saying Jupiter and

> Venus in

> > > 1/7 in

> > > D9 charts will help in married life. That was also with

> > > reference to

> > > aspect and combination only.

> > >

> > > Well - I never commented about his interpretation of

> shloka by

> > > Late

> > > Santhanam; or by Shri Narasimha - (as I clarified that due

> to

> > > language

> > > constraint - I never went beyond commentaries and case

> > > studies).

> > >

> > > I have not put any allegation; but expressed that - Late

> > > santhanam is

> > > misquoted on Usability of Navamsha in terms of existence,

> > > aspects and

> > > combination.

> > >

> > > I have quoted all his applications from his case studies.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla

> > >

> > > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Parfulla ji

> > > >

> > > > I have one request.

> > > > Kindly read all my mails before you say i have

> misquoted.

> > > > If members participating in the debate are not

> interested in

> > > reading

> > > > mails,why should i write so many mails in the first

> place.

> > > >

> > > > What you have written is totally against what i have

> been

> > > writing.

> > > >

> > > > I have only said Late Santhanam does not use aspects and

> he

> > > has even

> > > > expressed his concern.Pls see the PVR example on Lagna

> > > shadvargake

> > > > and what i have said.

> > > >

> > > > Then i clearly said,Shri Santhanam was unable to explain

> > > Lagna

> > > > shadvargake shloka(His own acceptance).

> > > >

> > > > Then i had said,Shri Santhanam went with a conclusion

> that

> > > vargas

> > > > are full charts and thus was unable to interpret,though

> he

> > > rightly

> > > > identified non-possibility of aspects.

> > > >

> > > > Then i had compared views of many and said Late Subburao

> > > opposed

> > > > aspects as well as bhavas.

> > > >

> > > > Then i said if Late santhanam was fortunate to read

> > > manuscripts BPHS

> > > > translation would had been a different story.

> > > >

> > > > Where did i misquote.Pls ,double check before you make

> > > allegations.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > > , Prafulla Gang

> > > <jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Shri Pradeep misquoted late Santhanam - for the

> usability

> > > of

> > > > Navamsa Chakra.

> > > > >

> > > > > First - he always maintained that Navamsa chart

> exists,

> > > contrary

> > > > to Shri Pradeep's view that there is no such independent

> D9

> > > chart.

> > > > > Second - Aspects in D9 are considered, and so is the

> > > yogas.

> > > > >

> > > > > I take two readings of late Santhanam in his TOA /

> > > personal

> > > > discussions to clarify his perspective:

> > > > >

> > > > > Chart 1 - 26 Aug 1956; 4.10 IST; 28N39 / 77E13

> > > > >

> > > > > D1 chart -Lagna karka - sun/jup in leo; merc in kanya;

> > > sat/rahu in

> > > > scorpio; mars ® in kumbha; moon in pisces; venus in

> > > mithuna

> > > > >

> > > > > Navamsa - scorpio lagna; rahu in libra; merc in

> kumbha;

> > > moon in

> > > > pisces; ketu in aries; venus in taurus; sun/mars in

> mithuna;

> > > shani

> > > > in leo; jup in kanya

> > > > >

> > > > > His quote " In the Navamsa Diagram - we find two

> > > favourable

> > > > combinations for early marriage: Venus in the 7th from

> > > ascendant and

> > > > Jupiter in 7th from moon "

> > > > >

> > > > > My Point - he was categoric on both the issues, which

> are

> > > main

> > > > contentions of the thread, unless diverted.

> > > > >

> > > > > Chart 2 - female borne on Dec 21, 1971 at 9.01 hrs

> IST,

> > > Delhi

> > > > > D1 chart - lagna - makara; sun in dhanu; venus /

> moon/rahu

> > > in

> > > > makara; mars in pisces; saturn ® in taurus; Jup /

> Mer-R in

> > > scorpio

> > > > >

>

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