Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Om Datta Guru Dear Prafulla & Sushmita, I have read some of the messages & got a brief of it. I thank you both especially Prafulla Bhai for his mature stance on these issues with is not PR maturity but filled with honesty. If you permit let me reply these in several posts addressing few issues at once. On Usage of Divisonals/Aspect in Divisionals 1) I feel this will remain an unresolved issue till internet is alive and thousands of man hours would be wasted. Every year this is repeated and i notice a particular person tries to bring it in discussion everytime just to garner attention, what use was it last time than it is now. Unresolved is this question since some of us will quote some shloka etc and fight on it. The issue is do we have all the shlokas the rishis and ancients wrote, not even 0.00001% . 2) Are there any sanskrit scholars alive on internet lists - i have found NONE so far in all my yrs here. The bitter truth of it i faced last year when I saw what level of scholars we have who cant even interpret a simple word' Lagnendorupi' . I had done a big post on it with views of Suresh Chandra Mishra, C.S.Patel & K.S. Charak (all 3 were asked the meaning of it and they replied with success - none of them on the list alas) & also I included the views of B.V.Raman n then finally it was Late Subramanium Shastri. So when i see people trying to interpret Jaimini which is the toughest, I laugh. 3) Recently someone from other list posing to be Sanskrit scholar came here and tried interpreting Jaimini, my friend called me up and showed me how ridiculous his methodology was, this man became a laughing stock among some current sanskrit interpretors. 4) It takes some yrs to find out who knows Sanskrit and who does not and in those yrs damage to ones time and perception is already done. Shloka Business 1) I had written a huge series last year on the shloka business, still people do not change & are stuck with it. We are nobody to tell them their paths i have realised that. 2) My simple question to them is do u think so the Rishi revealed all in the shloka. Todays good astrologers do not even reveal all their knowledge to their students, in olden days it was too strict, do we think Parasara or any other sage revealed what they wanted to say in that shloka. Ofcourse not 3) People who try to interpret Jaimini, I will ask them few questions 'do they know how many ancient commentaries of Jaimini are there, how many meanings are there right in the 1st shloka - none of them will ever know the answer, we do not even know which is considered as the best ancient commentary of Jaimini so far. Do they even know how many types of UL are there (not just one btw) 4) A Jaimini scholar was asked this question by my mentor, he did not have a reply & my mentor concluded that this man has no parampara of Jaimini as mentor has travelled far and wide and meet many genuine scholars. To be continued...... Regards, Sunil John Mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Dear Sunil John, > > Dear Prafulla & Sushmita, > I have read some of the messages & got a brief of it. I thank you both > especially Prafulla Bhai for his mature stance on these issues with is > not PR maturity but filled with honesty. If you permit let me reply > these in several posts addressing few issues at once. [Prafulla] Thanks for sharing your opinion. Well, I am just a " poor " student, and Jyotish is still a mirage to me. > > On Usage of Divisonals/Aspect in Divisionals > > 1) I feel this will remain an unresolved issue till internet is alive > and thousands of man hours would be wasted. Every year this is repeated > and i notice a particular person tries to bring it in discussion > everytime just to garner attention, what use was it last time than it is > now. Unresolved is this question since some of us will quote some shloka > etc and fight on it. The issue is do we have all the shlokas the rishis > and ancients wrote, not even 0.00001% . > [Prafulla] Well, many other participants on the thread have expressed their explicit opinion on the usability of the principle (new, old, fabricted, inherited, researched so whatsoever..). I presume, all want to see them working - and since, we can not have access to lost heritage, we all extrapolate the clues. Perhaps, that is the only logical approach - to my small mind. > 2) Are there any sanskrit scholars alive on internet lists - i have > found NONE so far in all my yrs here. The bitter truth of it i faced > last year when I saw what level of scholars we have who cant even > interpret a simple word' Lagnendorupi' . I had done a big post on it > with views of Suresh Chandra Mishra, C.S.Patel & K.S. Charak (all 3 > were asked the meaning of it and they replied with success - none of > them on the list alas) & also I included the views of B.V.Raman n then > finally it was Late Subramanium Shastri. So when i see people trying to > interpret Jaimini which is the toughest, I laugh. > [Prafulla] You have touched a very sensitive and vital point. But at times, for most of the forum members - it becomes impossible to argue on those sanskrit meanings, for language constraints. > 3) Recently someone from other list posing to be Sanskrit scholar came > here and tried interpreting Jaimini, my friend called me up and showed > me how ridiculous his methodology was, this man became a laughing stock > among some current sanskrit interpretors. [Prafulla] I was not aware that, there are members on this list - translating jaimni sutras (as retold). I have few sincere questions to them (which i could not yet figure out conclusive approach) -as many senior scholars have formulated their opinion (of course - I presume that, they must have established methods through huge case studies and serious observations) a. does jaimini prescribes the exception? If yes, Does parashara prescribes it also? if No - who should prevail b. how are exception to Arudha calculated? BTW - Prasna marga also refers to Arudha, and few feels that - Badhaka theory must be used only with Prasna (from arudha lagna). I endorse your views on " shloka business " , and at times, it has become part of marketing package. regards / Prafulla Gang http://www.prafulla.net " Men who never get carried away should be. " ************************************************ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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