Lagna Shadvargake Shloka - A Revisit/Paulo

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Dear Parufulla ji

 

You can address me without any jis etc.

 

Yes me too loved it.It is applicable to all of as we all may make

some mistakes at some point of time in our life.

 

I am not a big reader.Once shri Chandrahari sent me a link on Paulo

coelho.It was really good.Then during my recent flight journey,the

girl sitting next to me was reading the book from Paulo titled -

Flowing like the River.The pencil chapter left a mark in my

mind.Today i did a search on the internet for the exact words though

the memories of the essence from the pencil qualities were still

afresh and alive.

 

As you have liked it,i will post as another mail all the 5 qualities.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

 

 

 

>

> Dear Pradeep ji

>

> Your note:

> ***

> Let us analyze what Paulo coelho wrote about pencil -

>

> ''Third quality: the pencil always allows us to use an eraser to

rub

> out any mistakes. This means that correcting something we did is

not

> necessarily a bad thing; it helps to keep us on the road to

> justice''.

> ***

> Excellent .. I just loved it.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > I would like to recall the attention of members again to the

> > following mail from shri PVR Narasimha Rao - on Lagna

Shadvargake

> > Shloka.I request everyone to kindly read this with due

attention

> > and care as this may help us in solving most of our doubts.

> >

> > Shri Narasimha:----This verse means that if lagna in all the six

> > divisions is occupied or aspected by the same planet, it

> constitutes

> > a raja yoga. Based on the fullness of the aspect, the strength

of

> > the yoga is to be decided. One can argue that this is rasi

> drishti

> > (which does not need houses), but the mention of full, half and

> > quarter aspects makes it quite obvious that graha drishti based

on

> > houses is being referred to. In rasi drishti, there are no

grades

> of

> > aspects.

> >

> > Pradeep: -Shri Narasimha Rao is absolutely right as Sage is

> > mentioning about Graha drishti.Shadvargas of Lagna will fall on

> > different Rashis within Rashi chakra and Graha placements can

> aspect

> > those Rashis.The moment you add words or thought which are not

> > mentioned in the shloka- Chaos results.Sage is talking about

> Vargas

> > and who asked us to bring in ''Varga Charts'' is my doubt.

> >

> > Shri Narasimha:As a matter of fact, Sri Santhanam did not

> translate

> > the verse any differently than I would. In fact, I see no scope

> to

> > translate differently. Under his notes, Sri Santhanam wrote the

> > following:Aspects are referred to in the divisional charts here.

I

> > am unable to fully conceive the logic in aspects in divisional

> > charts for the sage himself referred to the longitudinal

aspectual

> > evaluations in an earlier chapter. Without commenting further on

> > this controversial aspect I leave

> > it at that, accepting my limitations to explain this fully. "

> >

> > Pradeep:Please see - Shri Santhanam is saying - ''Aspects are

> > referred to in the divisional charts here'' -which is just his

> > asuumption - Sage is only talking about Lagna Shadvargake -

> pointing

> > to ShadVARGAS of Lagna - No chart at all.

> >

> > I had clearly mentioned yesterday that many scholars who were

> trying

> > to interpret these shlokas, went with a preconcluded notion that

> > Vargas are Full Charts.Which is not so and is against the

> > fundamental definition from Parashara.

> >

> > Classical examples and explanations from elderly scholars of

> > yesteryears(many years back) go by parasharas defintion.But why

did

> > contemporary scholars have such an assumption? -Probably as

vargas

> > too were drwan inside Rashi skeletons!!.Yes ofcourse they all

fall

> > within the Rashi chakra.

> >

> > But you may see -Shri Santhanam honestly says -Demonstrating his

> > greatness - ''I am unable to fully conceive the logic in

aspects

> > in divisional charts for the sage himself referred to the

> > longitudinal aspectual evaluations in an earlier chapter''.

> > Absolutely right - Sage has defined on where an aspect can

happen.

> >

> > If shri Santhanam had the fortune to see the manuscripts(yes

> > manuscripts in Thaliyola or leaf are present) which i had

> > mentioned,then translation of BPHS would had been a different

> story.

> >

> > If we violate definiton of Vargas as mentioned by Mahamuni

> > Parashara - can we still expect to get the shlokas interpreted

> > properly!!

> >

> > If you may note contemporary scholars were able to understand

> these

> > in certain case.Shri Rath understood that amshaka roots back to

> > Rashis.Shri K.N.Raoji understood that Karakamsha roots back to

> > rashi.thus you see amsha as well as amshaka roots back as per

them

> > in certain cases.

> >

> > In Reality they all relate back and fall within Rashi chakra as

> > explained by great grand fathers of Jyotish parampara.

> >

> > I have tried my level best within my limited intelligence and

> leave

> > it at the discretion of jyotish enthusiasts.

> >

> > There is no disrespect at all towards any of the great souls as

> all

> > of us are in the same path.

> >

> > Let us analyze what Paulo coelho wrote about pencil -

> >

> > ''Third quality: the pencil always allows us to use an eraser to

> rub

> > out any mistakes. This means that correcting something we did is

> not

> > necessarily a bad thing; it helps to keep us on the road to

> > justice''.

> >

> > Kind Regds and thanks for your patience

> > Pradeep

> >

>