Karakamsha -Chandrashekhar ji - 2 -Example 1

June 25, 2007

Dear Ms Margaret

Yes i will try to find solid examples.

Also there is another pending task.I did roughly draw the charts

that you had given.Couldn't find any evident reccuring patterns.Rahu

ketu influence,Guru in dhanu, etc were some.But i have zero

knowledge in in mundane topics.Will see them again.

For the time being let us take Saturn in Karakamsha Rashi-My father

has Saturn in Karakamsha Rashi(His Saturn is not having amsha

there).His AK is also Vargottama and exalted.

Ofcourse prasidhi is relative and depends on the strength of other

planets.

He is really a hard worker (as opposed to me:-).By my age he was

able to decide his career and had the ability to take initiatives.

Purely due to hard work, he succeeded in his major domain - the

cooperative sector.He was chairman of the cooperative bodies,from

the capital district of kerala for almost 2 decades(not

continuos).An elected post and is currently in the director board.

Chairman leads 600 odd employees.Government vehicle and other

facilities.He has visited,many countries,US,Japan,South east

asia,Gulf,Europe in this capacity in the late 70's and early

80's.Then was member of State legislative assembly.Worked and led at

all levels of party organisation starting from the lowest grade.All

showing Saturns influence on the Rashi in which AK is having amsha.

Thus i feel sage is talking about the support each planet is giving

to the Rashi on to which Karaka Graha is having Sambandha.If Saturn

is placed there,one will definitely work hard as compared to

gimmicks and undeserved popularity/credits - which is the order of

the day.

I am givign personal charts ,so that we have authentic data as well

as information.

Regds

Pradeep

, " Marg " <margie9 wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep

> I would really appreciate some examples please

> best M

> -

> vijayadas_pradeep

>

> Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:26 PM

> Re: Karakamsha -Chandrashekhar ji - 2

>

> Dear Satish ji

>

> When we see the shlokas and Sutras in continuity and in a

logical

> sequence, and also the terms rashi and varge used specifically

in

> certain shlokas,it is more than evident that it is always from

> Karakamsha rashi.

>

> Thus unless specifically mentioned for example vargas of Mars

and

> Venus Sutra,reference is always about placement from karakamsha

rashi.

>

> In the other specific cases sage is talking about,amshas on the

said

> rashis) -ie what you see in navamsha.

>

> But when nothing is mentioned,say 10th from karakamsha it means

> placement in rashi.Aspects too points to the same.

>

> Thus in this case,it means saturn is placed in the 12th from

> K.Rashi,which has to be a papa rashi as well.

>

> The key is if it is a Varga ,sage will say so.There are shlokas

in

> BPHS pointing to shadvargas.

>

> Hope it is clear.If not i can explain with examples.

>

> Regds

> Prdeep , SPK

<aquaris_rising@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Vijaydas,

> > ---

> > 12th is fine - Especially as Parashara and Vyaye is

> > quoted.In Sutras

> > 12th etc will be defined upfront.For me there is no

> > real moving back

> > or bringing back to rashi chakra.They are falling

> > there itslef.12th

> > from Karakamsha rashi is a papa rashi with saturn

> > ---

> > Could you please explain what you mean here. Are you

> > saying 12th from karakamsha is 12th from karakamsha in

> > navanasha? Or you are moving it back to rashi so 12th

> > from karakamsha rashi in D-1?

> >

> > Satish

> > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > >

> > > Assume Karakamsha Rashi is Mithuna.Then second from

> > > it can only be

> > > Cancer no matter whether one is seeing this from a

> > > ''navamsha''

> > > arrangement or ''Rashi'' arrangement(In fact both

> > > are falling within

> > > the same skeleton).

> > >

> > > Please read Sutras 52 and 53 together

> > >

> > > 1)Venus and Mars having Varge(amshas or simply

> > > Navamsha) in the 2nd

> > > from Karakamsha Rashi - Fond of others wives.

> > > Method -Identify the

> > > vargas of Venus & Mars in this chart.If they are in

> > > Cancer,condition

> > > satisfied.

> > >

> > > 2)Venus and Mars joining or aspecting the 2nd from

> > > Karakamsha Rashi-

> > > Similar Habits till end of Life.Method - Check if

> > > Venus/Mars is

> > > placed in Cancer or they aspect Cancer -condition

> > > satisfied.Aspects

> > > are always w.r to Rashi placements and not ''amsha

> > > dispositions''.Hence aspect is not mentioned in the

> > > first case.

> > >

> > > Intensity of Result Variation (Sutra 52 & 53) -

> > > Placements and

> > > aspects are more powerful than Varga

> > > Sambandha.Eg-Kemadruma - Planets

> > > placed on either sides of Chandra navamshaka Rashi

> > > results in

> > > cancellation.

> > >

> > > Guru Varga - can have meaning only with reference to

> > > planet or lagna -

> > > eg Chandra having Guru Varga - Chandra should be

> > > placed in

> > > Dhanu/Meena,Its Navamsha is in

> > > Dhanu/Meena,Drekkana/Trimshamsha/Saptamsha is in

> > > Dhanu/Meena etc.

> > >

> > > 12th is fine - Especially as Parashara and Vyaye is

> > > quoted.In Sutras

> > > 12th etc will be defined upfront.For me there is no

> > > real moving back

> > > or bringing back to rashi chakra.They are falling

> > > there itslef.12th

> > > from Karakamsha rashi is a papa rashi with saturn.

> > >

> > > Navamsha Rashi is nothing but the Rashi on to which

> > > a particular

> > > sector within a Rashi is relating back.Analysis are

> > > always done w.r

> > > to a skeleton of 12 Rashis.Each diagram we draw

> > > shows the same

> > > skeleton(As 1 single human body) but different ways

> > > in which planets

> > > or our lagna are relating(subtle physiological

> > > functions again within

> > > 1 body).

> > >

> > > As long as we treat them as seperate entities ,the

> > > point cannot be

> > > driven home.If you can think of Lagna shadvargake

> > > shloka with

> > > aspectual magnitudes,i feel things should be

> > > evident.

> > >

> > > It is clear beyond any ambiguity that ,sage will

> > > nver give any

> > > superfluos info especially in sutras.

> > >

> > > Ofcourse i respect your views too.

> > >

> > > Respect

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> >

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June 25, 2007

Dear Pradeep

I couldn't find any recurring patterns other than the ones I singled out which

were gemini sag axis recurring in all the charts, which is why I found it

intriguig this should only occur in navamsa.

Thank you for taking time to give this example.

best wishes

M

-

vijayadas_pradeep

Monday, June 25, 2007 5:50 PM

Re: Karakamsha -Chandrashekhar ji - 2 -Example 1