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The follwing article appeared in Nature. Perhaps astrologers would

like to comment on it.

Radha S.

 

Nature 447, 528 (31 May 2007) | doi:10.1038/447528a; Published online

30 May 2007

 

Treating astrology's claims with all due gravity

 

Steven K. Lower1

 

1. The Ohio State University, 275 Mendenhall Laboratory, Columbus,

Ohio 43210, USA

 

Sir

 

Isaac Newton postulated that there is a force of attraction between

any two bodies in the Universe. Your News story 'Gravity passes a

little test' (Nature 446, 31†" 32; 2007) points out that " Isaac Newton's

inverse-square law of gravity has given faultless service ever since " .

I have found a curious way to use Newton's law to draw attention to

the difference between science and anti-science for a general

audience.

 

I teach an introductory science class at my university, which

typically enrols many non-science majors. During a lecture on the

gravitational force, I imply that if planets such as Mars exert a

force on any object, including humans, then perhaps there is something

to astrology's idea that celestial bodies exert a force of influence

on our lives. I encourage my students to undertake a test I have

designed for this notion.

 

I present the students with 12 randomly numbered horoscopes from the

previous day, with the corresponding signs of the zodiac removed. I

ask each student to record the horoscope that best describes the day

she or he had, and the astrological sign (for example, Aries)

corresponding to her/his birthday. My scientific hypothesis is that

planets may exert a force on our bodies, but it is purely random †" 1

out of 12 (8.3%) †" whether a horoscope foretells the events of one's

life.

 

I am pleased to report that, as Shawn Carlson has noted, " astrology

failed to perform at a level better than chance " (Nature 318, 419†" 425;

1985). The results from my classes are: 8.0% (n = 163 students), 8.4%

(n = 155), 7.0% (n = 143), 8.0% (n = 138) and 8.0% (n = 100). In other

words, as John Maddox has commented " astrology is a pack of lies ...

There is no evidence that the positions of the planets can affect

human behaviour " (Nature 368, 185; 1994).

 

I encourage science teachers to try this approach when they are

presented with an opportunity, as this exercise inspires genuine

scientific inquiry. For example, students have countered that a

certain astrologer may not be qualified to read the stars. I have

addressed this question by using horoscopes from different newspapers

(Chicago Tribune, Columbus Dispatch, Los Angeles Times and Washington

Post) and online sources (Astrology.com, DailyHoroscopes.com). Other

students have noted that small groups, with only two students of a

particular sign, may obtain a result that is significantly greater

than 8.3%. This presents an opportunity to discuss the value of an

adequate sample size.

 

Finally, it is worth reporting that my students are so engaged by this

exercise that they actually want to use Newton's law of universal

gravitation to calculate force values. In case you are curious, Mars,

at its present distance of 264 million kilometres from Earth, is

exerting a force of approximately 50 nanonewtons on your being.

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Oh Dear

Another scared, irrational and intellectually flawed man trying to preserve his

highly paid position whilst abusing Isaac's law of gravity!

 

Unscientific Approach

1. Irrational premise: I am a scientist because I understand Newton's laws of

gravity therefore I am an expert and you should believe everything I say.Because

I think I understand Newton's law of gravity, and I am an expert, and I know

everything, and I am in charge, and I want to impress my peer group and

students, I am going to show them I am also anti astrology and then they will

know I am the best scientist.

2. Erroneous assumption: the daily horoscope is a good example of astrology

Illogical reasoning: because I know that the daily horoscope is a good example

of astrology, I can use it in a pseudo scientific experiment to prove astrology

doesn't work.......................................................

3. Invalid conclusion: astrology doesn't work

Correct inference: this person knows nothing of astrology, very little about

Isaac Newton who was interested in astrology, and sets up ridiculous non

scientific experiments.................................

 

 

Scientific Approach:

 

1. Systematically examine all the available evidence in favour of astrology: I

could provide him with some if he likes and can even show him the

reproducibility of the fields of analysis .... perhaps he doesn't

know what 'evidence' is?

 

2. Show how and why it is invalid.

 

Facts about science:

Many elements of discovery were rejected by scientists in their early days, for

example many thought electricity was the work of the devil, and Wegener proposed

theories of the continental drift for which no known mechanism was available to

test his correct observations, so he was ridiculed.

Rather than asserting only his authority this man should have presented

evidence. Einstein was ridiculed by a fanatical group of racists who tried to

persuade 100 professors to condemn his theories to which Einstein commented:

''Were I wrong, one professor would have been quite enough.''

As Feyerabend points out when 186 scientists ridiculed the Gaucalin study:' it

is easy to see how closely both parties approach each other in ignorance,

conceit and the wish for easy power over minds......'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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aphoton47

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:07 AM

An article about astrology

 

 

The follwing article appeared in Nature. Perhaps astrologers would

like to comment on it.

Radha S.

 

Nature 447, 528 (31 May 2007) | doi:10.1038/447528a; Published online

30 May 2007

 

Treating astrology's claims with all due gravity

 

Steven K. Lower1

 

1. The Ohio State University, 275 Mendenhall Laboratory, Columbus,

Ohio 43210, USA

 

Sir

 

Isaac Newton postulated that there is a force of attraction between

any two bodies in the Universe. Your News story 'Gravity passes a

little test' (Nature 446, 31†" 32; 2007) points out that " Isaac Newton's

inverse-square law of gravity has given faultless service ever since " .

I have found a curious way to use Newton's law to draw attention to

the difference between science and anti-science for a general

audience.

 

I teach an introductory science class at my university, which

typically enrols many non-science majors. During a lecture on the

gravitational force, I imply that if planets such as Mars exert a

force on any object, including humans, then perhaps there is something

to astrology's idea that celestial bodies exert a force of influence

on our lives. I encourage my students to undertake a test I have

designed for this notion.

 

I present the students with 12 randomly numbered horoscopes from the

previous day, with the corresponding signs of the zodiac removed. I

ask each student to record the horoscope that best describes the day

she or he had, and the astrological sign (for example, Aries)

corresponding to her/his birthday. My scientific hypothesis is that

planets may exert a force on our bodies, but it is purely random †" 1

out of 12 (8.3%) †" whether a horoscope foretells the events of one's

life.

 

I am pleased to report that, as Shawn Carlson has noted, " astrology

failed to perform at a level better than chance " (Nature 318, 419†" 425;

1985). The results from my classes are: 8.0% (n = 163 students), 8.4%

(n = 155), 7.0% (n = 143), 8.0% (n = 138) and 8.0% (n = 100). In other

words, as John Maddox has commented " astrology is a pack of lies ...

There is no evidence that the positions of the planets can affect

human behaviour " (Nature 368, 185; 1994).

 

I encourage science teachers to try this approach when they are

presented with an opportunity, as this exercise inspires genuine

scientific inquiry. For example, students have countered that a

certain astrologer may not be qualified to read the stars. I have

addressed this question by using horoscopes from different newspapers

(Chicago Tribune, Columbus Dispatch, Los Angeles Times and Washington

Post) and online sources (Astrology.com, DailyHoroscopes.com). Other

students have noted that small groups, with only two students of a

particular sign, may obtain a result that is significantly greater

than 8.3%. This presents an opportunity to discuss the value of an

adequate sample size.

 

Finally, it is worth reporting that my students are so engaged by this

exercise that they actually want to use Newton's law of universal

gravitation to calculate force values. In case you are curious, Mars,

at its present distance of 264 million kilometres from Earth, is

exerting a force of approximately 50 nanonewtons on your being.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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dear marg,

 

 

 

your writing so truthful it compelled me to reply back to your message. I

mean for god sakes this guy is using the same ploy other professors have

tried. first of all you are right about everything. this guy knows nothing

about astrology and is using one factor of the giant library of astrology to

deduce that horoscopes and what not are bogus. furthermore, Newton was

highly interested in astrology. he often quoted " I have studied astrology,

you have not! " So if a man that was one of the most influential men in the

realm of physics was studying astrology you better believe that it has some

importance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

__________

 

Raja Gursahani

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Raja

Glad to know that you agree and thanks for your kind comments. I noticed another

erroneous statement about astrology not being a science on Wikipaedia recently

and another one also came through Google today, but if we spent our days

responding to such un scientific statements we would have not time to study and

apply the art and science of astrology would we:-)

I find these people very lazy actually, they can't be bothered to even study

the subject they pretend to prove isn't a science!

best wishes

M

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Raja Gursahani

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:51 PM

Re: An article about astrology

 

 

dear marg,

 

your writing so truthful it compelled me to reply back to your message. I

mean for god sakes this guy is using the same ploy other professors have

tried. first of all you are right about everything. this guy knows nothing

about astrology and is using one factor of the giant library of astrology to

deduce that horoscopes and what not are bogus. furthermore, Newton was

highly interested in astrology. he often quoted " I have studied astrology,

you have not! " So if a man that was one of the most influential men in the

realm of physics was studying astrology you better believe that it has some

importance.

 

________

 

Raja Gursahani

 

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Dear Radha,

 

It is an interesting post. I think it goes on to show how so called

experiments based on flimsy logic are used by the so called scientific

community to deride the science of Astrology. The assumption in the said

experiment is that mars ought to exercise same influence on all the

students, forgetting that astrology is based on planets at the time of

birth influencing the behaviour of a person, based on their time of

birth. Since all the students could not be born on the same date and

time at the same place, it would be obvious to even the most casual

analyst that the so called experiment does not hold any water. Another

assumption in the experiment is that all the students are expert

astrologers who really know how a day corresponds to a horoscope. There

are many such lapses which only go to show that the experiment is

designed around the presumption that astrology has no scientific basis.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

aphoton47 wrote:

>

> The follwing article appeared in Nature. Perhaps astrologers would

> like to comment on it.

> Radha S.

>

> Nature 447, 528 (31 May 2007) | doi:10.1038/447528a; Published online

> 30 May 2007

>

> Treating astrology's claims with all due gravity

>

> Steven K. Lower1

>

> 1. The Ohio State University, 275 Mendenhall Laboratory, Columbus,

> Ohio 43210, USA

>

> Sir

>

> Isaac Newton postulated that there is a force of attraction between

> any two bodies in the Universe. Your News story 'Gravity passes a

> little test' (Nature 446, 31âEUR " 32; 2007) points out that " Isaac Newton's

> inverse-square law of gravity has given faultless service ever since " .

> I have found a curious way to use Newton's law to draw attention to

> the difference between science and anti-science for a general

> audience.

>

> I teach an introductory science class at my university, which

> typically enrols many non-science majors. During a lecture on the

> gravitational force, I imply that if planets such as Mars exert a

> force on any object, including humans, then perhaps there is something

> to astrology's idea that celestial bodies exert a force of influence

> on our lives. I encourage my students to undertake a test I have

> designed for this notion.

>

> I present the students with 12 randomly numbered horoscopes from the

> previous day, with the corresponding signs of the zodiac removed. I

> ask each student to record the horoscope that best describes the day

> she or he had, and the astrological sign (for example, Aries)

> corresponding to her/his birthday. My scientific hypothesis is that

> planets may exert a force on our bodies, but it is purely random âEUR " 1

> out of 12 (8.3%) âEUR " whether a horoscope foretells the events of one's

> life.

>

> I am pleased to report that, as Shawn Carlson has noted, " astrology

> failed to perform at a level better than chance " (Nature 318, 419âEUR " 425;

> 1985). The results from my classes are: 8.0% (n = 163 students), 8.4%

> (n = 155), 7.0% (n = 143), 8.0% (n = 138) and 8.0% (n = 100). In other

> words, as John Maddox has commented " astrology is a pack of lies ...

> There is no evidence that the positions of the planets can affect

> human behaviour " (Nature 368, 185; 1994).

>

> I encourage science teachers to try this approach when they are

> presented with an opportunity, as this exercise inspires genuine

> scientific inquiry. For example, students have countered that a

> certain astrologer may not be qualified to read the stars. I have

> addressed this question by using horoscopes from different newspapers

> (Chicago Tribune, Columbus Dispatch, Los Angeles Times and Washington

> Post) and online sources (Astrology.com, DailyHoroscopes.com). Other

> students have noted that small groups, with only two students of a

> particular sign, may obtain a result that is significantly greater

> than 8.3%. This presents an opportunity to discuss the value of an

> adequate sample size.

>

> Finally, it is worth reporting that my students are so engaged by this

> exercise that they actually want to use Newton's law of universal

> gravitation to calculate force values. In case you are curious, Mars,

> at its present distance of 264 million kilometres from Earth, is

> exerting a force of approximately 50 nanonewtons on your being.

>

>

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>

>

>

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