Last Saturn-Ketu conjunction in Leo - 1802 - Significance?

[Guest guest]

I did a bunch of calculations and some trial and error, and there was a

Saturn-Ketu conjunction in Leo in 1802 - approximately on September 10, 1802 on

the 20th degree of Leo. Jupiter was also in Leo then. I dont think there have

been any other Saturn-Ketu conjunctions in Leo between then and now, but I may

be wrong..

 

This time, the Saturn-Ketu conjunction in Leo is somewhere in October (2007)

and is on the 10th degree of Leo. Venus is also in Leo then.

 

Wonder if anyone would like to give the significance of the year 1802? Does it

stand out in any way - world politics, catastrophes, wars etc?

 

Thanks

 

Sundeep

 

 

 

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

Check outnew cars at Autos.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear friend,

 

saturn would be in leo every 30 years.

Thers not much calculation needed there.

But whether ketu was there with it,

is a question Mark.

In 300 years ,Saturn would go 10 times

to Leo.

therefore first You take out the Years of

saturn in leo for 300

years, which is a Mental few minutes job.

Now these 10 years you have noted, just

enter into any free Astrology software You

have,and check whether ketu was anywhere

near.

Out of 2 or maximum 3 conjunctions You get

of sat with ketu in leo.

again Note down the years.

 

next punch these Years in Google or

search and You may come

to know what happened exactly for good or

bad to the Geographical region one requires.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, Astro Student

<vedicastrostudent wrote:

>

> I did a bunch of calculations and some trial and error, and there

was a Saturn-Ketu conjunction in Leo in 1802 - approximately on

September 10, 1802 on the 20th degree of Leo. Jupiter was also in Leo

then. I dont think there have been any other Saturn-Ketu conjunctions

in Leo between then and now, but I may be wrong..

>

> This time, the Saturn-Ketu conjunction in Leo is somewhere in

October (2007) and is on the 10th degree of Leo. Venus is also in Leo

then.

>

> Wonder if anyone would like to give the significance of the year

1802? Does it stand out in any way - world politics, catastrophes,

wars etc?

>

> Thanks

>

> Sundeep

>

>

>

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Autos.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar,

You underestimate me. I know all the methods of calculations you

cite and many more too, like computing the relative speed of Saturn

with respect to Ketu. Saturn and Ketu head toward each other at an

approximate rate of 16/15 signs per year (I calculated this) which

means they must conjunct approximately once every 11.32 years, and

the sign in which they conjunct moves ahead by 4.45 signs each

consecutive conjunction. I did all these mental calculation before I

came to the 1802 date. But Saturn has retrogressions, and the " 4.45 "

and " 11.32 " is inexact, so things may change a bit here and there. I

didnt want to spend half my morning trying out lots of dates in my

astrology software and I reached the 1802 date in a few quick tries,

guided by my calculations.

 

I also found history pages with 1802 but I dont have excellent

history knowledge to know which events were huge events and which

were not (e.g. Napoleon Bonaparte annexing some area in Europe etc

etc).

 

In short, I am looking not for the methods to do research, I am

looking for opinions from other astrologers interested in history

who may have already done a more detailed analysis than mine..

 

Thanks

 

Sundeep

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear friend,

>

> saturn would be in leo every 30 years.

> Thers not much calculation needed there.

> But whether ketu was there with it,

> is a question Mark.

> In 300 years ,Saturn would go 10 times

> to Leo.

> therefore first You take out the Years of

> saturn in leo for 300

> years, which is a Mental few minutes job.

> Now these 10 years you have noted, just

> enter into any free Astrology software You

> have,and check whether ketu was anywhere

> near.

> Out of 2 or maximum 3 conjunctions You get

> of sat with ketu in leo.

> again Note down the years.

>

> next punch these Years in Google or

> search and You may come

> to know what happened exactly for good or

> bad to the Geographical region one requires.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , Astro Student

> <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> >

> > I did a bunch of calculations and some trial and error, and there

> was a Saturn-Ketu conjunction in Leo in 1802 - approximately on

> September 10, 1802 on the 20th degree of Leo. Jupiter was also in

Leo

> then. I dont think there have been any other Saturn-Ketu

conjunctions

> in Leo between then and now, but I may be wrong..

> >

> > This time, the Saturn-Ketu conjunction in Leo is somewhere in

> October (2007) and is on the 10th degree of Leo. Venus is also in

Leo

> then.

> >

> > Wonder if anyone would like to give the significance of the

year

> 1802? Does it stand out in any way - world politics, catastrophes,

> wars etc?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

> >

> >

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sundeep,

 

I was only trying to help you and make it sound simpler.

I am sorry, for having projected otherwise, but You are

really knowledgable as I read from your mail.

 

All the best,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " vedicastrostudent "

<vedicastrostudent wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar,

> You underestimate me. I know all the methods of calculations you

> cite and many more too, like computing the relative speed of Saturn

> with respect to Ketu. Saturn and Ketu head toward each other at an

> approximate rate of 16/15 signs per year (I calculated this) which

> means they must conjunct approximately once every 11.32 years, and

> the sign in which they conjunct moves ahead by 4.45 signs each

> consecutive conjunction. I did all these mental calculation before I

> came to the 1802 date. But Saturn has retrogressions, and the " 4.45 "

> and " 11.32 " is inexact, so things may change a bit here and there. I

> didnt want to spend half my morning trying out lots of dates in my

> astrology software and I reached the 1802 date in a few quick tries,

> guided by my calculations.

>

> I also found history pages with 1802 but I dont have excellent

> history knowledge to know which events were huge events and which

> were not (e.g. Napoleon Bonaparte annexing some area in Europe etc

> etc).

>

> In short, I am looking not for the methods to do research, I am

> looking for opinions from other astrologers interested in history

> who may have already done a more detailed analysis than mine..

>

> Thanks

>

> Sundeep

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friend,

> >

> > saturn would be in leo every 30 years.

> > Thers not much calculation needed there.

> > But whether ketu was there with it,

> > is a question Mark.

> > In 300 years ,Saturn would go 10 times

> > to Leo.

> > therefore first You take out the Years of

> > saturn in leo for 300

> > years, which is a Mental few minutes job.

> > Now these 10 years you have noted, just

> > enter into any free Astrology software You

> > have,and check whether ketu was anywhere

> > near.

> > Out of 2 or maximum 3 conjunctions You get

> > of sat with ketu in leo.

> > again Note down the years.

> >

> > next punch these Years in Google or

> > search and You may come

> > to know what happened exactly for good or

> > bad to the Geographical region one requires.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > , Astro Student

> > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I did a bunch of calculations and some trial and error, and there

> > was a Saturn-Ketu conjunction in Leo in 1802 - approximately on

> > September 10, 1802 on the 20th degree of Leo. Jupiter was also in

> Leo

> > then. I dont think there have been any other Saturn-Ketu

> conjunctions

> > in Leo between then and now, but I may be wrong..

> > >

> > > This time, the Saturn-Ketu conjunction in Leo is somewhere in

> > October (2007) and is on the 10th degree of Leo. Venus is also in

> Leo

> > then.

> > >

> > > Wonder if anyone would like to give the significance of the

> year

> > 1802? Does it stand out in any way - world politics, catastrophes,

> > wars etc?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Sundeep

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar,

Not a problem, I am not offended at all..

Thanks,

 

Sundeep

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Sundeep,

>

> I was only trying to help you and make it sound simpler.

> I am sorry, for having projected otherwise, but You are

> really knowledgable as I read from your mail.

>

> All the best,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , " vedicastrostudent "

> <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar,

> > You underestimate me. I know all the methods of calculations

you

> > cite and many more too, like computing the relative speed of

Saturn

> > with respect to Ketu. Saturn and Ketu head toward each other at

an

> > approximate rate of 16/15 signs per year (I calculated this)

which

> > means they must conjunct approximately once every 11.32 years,

and

> > the sign in which they conjunct moves ahead by 4.45 signs each

> > consecutive conjunction. I did all these mental calculation

before I

> > came to the 1802 date. But Saturn has retrogressions, and

the " 4.45 "

> > and " 11.32 " is inexact, so things may change a bit here and

there. I

> > didnt want to spend half my morning trying out lots of dates in

my

> > astrology software and I reached the 1802 date in a few quick

tries,

> > guided by my calculations.

> >

> > I also found history pages with 1802 but I dont have excellent

> > history knowledge to know which events were huge events and

which

> > were not (e.g. Napoleon Bonaparte annexing some area in Europe

etc

> > etc).

> >

> > In short, I am looking not for the methods to do research, I am

> > looking for opinions from other astrologers interested in

history

> > who may have already done a more detailed analysis than mine..

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friend,

> > >

> > > saturn would be in leo every 30 years.

> > > Thers not much calculation needed there.

> > > But whether ketu was there with it,

> > > is a question Mark.

> > > In 300 years ,Saturn would go 10 times

> > > to Leo.

> > > therefore first You take out the Years of

> > > saturn in leo for 300

> > > years, which is a Mental few minutes job.

> > > Now these 10 years you have noted, just

> > > enter into any free Astrology software You

> > > have,and check whether ketu was anywhere

> > > near.

> > > Out of 2 or maximum 3 conjunctions You get

> > > of sat with ketu in leo.

> > > again Note down the years.

> > >

> > > next punch these Years in Google or

> > > search and You may come

> > > to know what happened exactly for good or

> > > bad to the Geographical region one requires.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Astro Student

> > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I did a bunch of calculations and some trial and error, and

there

> > > was a Saturn-Ketu conjunction in Leo in 1802 - approximately on

> > > September 10, 1802 on the 20th degree of Leo. Jupiter was also

in

> > Leo

> > > then. I dont think there have been any other Saturn-Ketu

> > conjunctions

> > > in Leo between then and now, but I may be wrong..

> > > >

> > > > This time, the Saturn-Ketu conjunction in Leo is somewhere

in

> > > October (2007) and is on the 10th degree of Leo. Venus is also

in

> > Leo

> > > then.

> > > >

> > > > Wonder if anyone would like to give the significance of

the

> > year

> > > 1802? Does it stand out in any way - world politics,

catastrophes,

> > > wars etc?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > Sundeep

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Sundeep

 

Previous Saturn Ketu conjunctions in Leo are:

Dec 23 1672

March 16 1710

Feb 3 1802

We could expect many recordings of events for these dates to connect to empires,

leadership issues and Rome/papacy, these

My favourites are:

1672: Leibniz invented a calculating machine which could configure trignometry

tables and astronomical tables. Cassini the Italian astronomer calculated the

distance between the sun and the earth, as well as discovering one of Saturn's

satellites in 1671

1710: Arbuthnot established the foundation of statistical understanding and its

relevance to research and scientific reasoning.

1802: Wallaston was the first to observe the lines of spectrum emanating from

the sun's rays.

Luke Howard established the terminology we still use for defining cloud

formation as well as defined how to predict weather using this knowledge ( he

hadn't read Brihat Samhita at the time)

 

I expect this year something even more momentous in terms of scientific analysis

and astronomical insight will also come to the fore, we would have to look at

the chart itself to find out more.

best wishes

M

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Marg,

Thanks for the additional dates! I too was expecting

leadership/religious issues, but you cite only discoveries etc? Can

you explain a bit?

 

Sundeep

 

 

, " Marg " <margie9 wrote:

>

> Hi Sundeep

>

> Previous Saturn Ketu conjunctions in Leo are:

> Dec 23 1672

> March 16 1710

> Feb 3 1802

> We could expect many recordings of events for these dates to

connect to empires, leadership issues and Rome/papacy, these

> My favourites are:

> 1672: Leibniz invented a calculating machine which could configure

trignometry tables and astronomical tables. Cassini the Italian

astronomer calculated the distance between the sun and the earth, as

well as discovering one of Saturn's satellites in 1671

> 1710: Arbuthnot established the foundation of statistical

understanding and its relevance to research and scientific

reasoning.

> 1802: Wallaston was the first to observe the lines of spectrum

emanating from the sun's rays.

> Luke Howard established the terminology we still use for defining

cloud formation as well as defined how to predict weather using this

knowledge ( he hadn't read Brihat Samhita at the time)

>

> I expect this year something even more momentous in terms of

scientific analysis and astronomical insight will also come to the

fore, we would have to look at the chart itself to find out more.

> best wishes

> M

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sundeep

 

I thought that given the dates, and some few of the very little known but most

highly significant events connected to this conjunction, that it would be

unfair to deprive others of the excitement of discovering for themselves which

leadership and religious issues could also be found for themselves and for their

own country.

A voyage of discovery.This is a very easy thing to do nowadays, unlike years ago

when the net didn't throw up so much information.

Happy researching

M

 

-

vedicastrostudent

Monday, May 14, 2007 9:56 PM

Re: Last Saturn-Ketu conjunction in Leo - 1802 -

Significance?

 

 

Dear Marg,

Thanks for the additional dates! I too was expecting

leadership/religious issues, but you cite only discoveries etc? Can

you explain a bit?

 

Sundeep

 

, " Marg " <margie9 wrote:

>

> Hi Sundeep

>

> Previous Saturn Ketu conjunctions in Leo are:

> Dec 23 1672

> March 16 1710

> Feb 3 1802

> We could expect many recordings of events for these dates to

connect to empires, leadership issues and Rome/papacy, these

> My favourites are:

> 1672: Leibniz invented a calculating machine which could configure

trignometry tables and astronomical tables. Cassini the Italian

astronomer calculated the distance between the sun and the earth, as

well as discovering one of Saturn's satellites in 1671

> 1710: Arbuthnot established the foundation of statistical

understanding and its relevance to research and scientific

reasoning.

> 1802: Wallaston was the first to observe the lines of spectrum

emanating from the sun's rays.

> Luke Howard established the terminology we still use for defining

cloud formation as well as defined how to predict weather using this

knowledge ( he hadn't read Brihat Samhita at the time)

>

> I expect this year something even more momentous in terms of

scientific analysis and astronomical insight will also come to the

fore, we would have to look at the chart itself to find out more.

> best wishes

> M

>

>