Guest guest Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Thanks Chandrashekharji, The four sambadhas I am aware of are 1. exchange, 2. yuti 3. mutual aspect 4. Anyatar dristi ( Planet in sign of anther planer aspecting that planet) Anyway About Laghu parashari, I beleive it does have rajayogadhaya. In the translation I had read a while back, the commentator had called some of the rajyaogas Nishphal rajayogas. For example, guru - shukra sambandha for simha lagna will not generate rajayoga. In the same vein, guru -shani sambandha can not be a rajyoga for simha lagna, nor can ravi-shani sambandha a rajayoga for simha lagna. How can we ignore shani's sixth lordship for simha lagna and say shani can even participate in a Rajayoga for simha lagna? If we are suggesting shani as rajayogakaraka for Tula rashi, Yes but How can Guru participate in rajayoga for Tula native. The other aspects you have discussed like malayoga or malika yoga may have the potency for the great results. I am reluctant to treat shani-guru as Rajayoga. Also 7th lordship gets a taint( Dosh) Marakesh dosh, here shani is sixth lord as well. With just taking kendra and kona lordships we will get Shani-Ravi in a Rajayoga which is highly unlikely. Thanks for your inputs Satish --- Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > Dear Satish, > > There are many ways that two planets can have > sambandhas and this is one > of them. You will also find Saturn and Jupiter not > only with each other > but aspecting each other's rasi which is an even > stronger sambandha than > that with Mars. Sun, Moon and Venus are in triple > exchange as against > direct exchange of house with similar results. At my > age, I can not > recall instantly the reference but I think Chandra > kala nadi does talk > about such triple and even quadruple exchanges > giving similar results. > > Chandrashekhar. > ______________________________\ ____ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Dear Bharat, This is the equivalent of the four grahas acting as if in own house in the bhavas and rasis that they occupy. The results will depend on the Lagna and bhava occupied. I will let you know the specific yoga in Deva Keralam where such triple or sometimes quadruple exchanges are mentioned, as soon as I locate the same. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote: > > Namaste Sri Chandrashekhar > > In my chart, Venus is in Saturn's sign, Saturn in Mars' sign, Mars in > Jupiter's sign and Jupiter in Venus sign. I wonder what that means. > Can you > try and recall the reference in Deva Keralam? > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 10 Mar 2007 12:12:36 -0800, Chandrashekhar > <chandrashekhar46 <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> > wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > There are many ways that two planets can have sambandhas and this is one > > of them. You will also find Saturn and Jupiter not only with each other > > but aspecting each other's rasi which is an even stronger sambandha than > > that with Mars. Sun, Moon and Venus are in triple exchange as against > > direct exchange of house with similar results. At my age, I can not > > recall instantly the reference but I think Chandra kala nadi does talk > > about such triple and even quadruple exchanges giving similar results. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > SPK wrote: > > > > > > Chadrashekharji, > > > > > > One more point, how come mars aspecting jupiter and > > > his sign makes sambandha between mars and jupiter ? He > > > is apsetcing it from sign of budh. This is not anytar > > > dristi. I am not clear about sun, moon and venus > > > acting as if in their own houses. I am not aware of > > > how dispositorships will make planets behave as if in > > > their own houses. Can you please site a reference for > > > this ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Satish > > > --- Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 > <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk><chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk> > > > <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > You are right in that Saturn and Jupiter in the 2nd > > > > means coming > > > > together of the square and the Trine lords, thus a > > > > raj yoga occurring in > > > > the house of wealth. Yogakaraka Mars occupies the > > > > 11th bhava indicating > > > > learning and fortune being responsible for his > > > > income. Again we see > > > > Sambandha between Jupiter the 5th lord and mars the > > > > Yogakaraka as mars > > > > aspects Jupiter and also the 5th house. Then we have > > > > a triple exchange > > > > by reason of Sun occupying rasi of Moon whose > > > > depositor Venus occupies > > > > the rasi of Sun. So three grahas act as if placed in > > > > own house. You will > > > > also see the lagna lord Sun and 5th lord Jupiter > > > > both occupying trines > > > > in Navamsha and getting strength therefrom. The > > > > Yogakaraka mars is in > > > > 8th house in the navamsha. The 8th sign is Mars's > > > > own rasi in natural > > > > zodiac too. So all the Dharma trikona lords are in > > > > strength here, though > > > > that is not apparent at first glance. I would say > > > > he trained very hard > > > > to achieve what he did as the 5th lord Jupiter is in > > > > strength. Then he > > > > has a Mala yoga from 11th to the 3rd bhava, > > > > indicative of good wealth > > > > which as no.1 in tennis he apparently does possess. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > It's here! Your new message! > > > Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. > > > http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ > <http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/> > > > <http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ > <http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/>> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: > 3/4/2007 > > 1:58 PM > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Dear Satish, The text you have read might be titled Laghu Parashari, but believe me that raj yogas caused by grahas are not indicated in the original Laghu Parashari or what is known as Ududaaya Pradeep, nor are any nishphal yogas mentioned. It contains 42 shlokas to be exact. Again I have never said that Guru is yoga causing planet for Tula rasi. I said that coming together of Saturn and Guru is a raj yoga for Leo lagna. Please read my mail again carefully. I think you are confusing between the dasha of a maraka graha and its being a Kendra Lord conjunct a Trikona Lord. Of course you could be right and I wrong. Chandrashekhar. SPK wrote: > > Thanks Chandrashekharji, > > The four sambadhas I am aware of are > > 1. exchange, > 2. yuti > 3. mutual aspect > 4. Anyatar dristi ( Planet in sign of anther planer > aspecting that planet) > > Anyway > > About Laghu parashari, I beleive it does have > rajayogadhaya. In the translation I had read a while > back, the commentator had called some of the rajyaogas > Nishphal rajayogas. For example, guru - shukra > sambandha for simha lagna will not generate rajayoga. > In the same vein, guru -shani sambandha can not be a > rajyoga for simha lagna, nor can ravi-shani sambandha > a rajayoga for simha lagna. How can we ignore shani's > sixth lordship for simha lagna and say shani can even > participate in a Rajayoga for simha lagna? > > If we are suggesting shani as rajayogakaraka for Tula > rashi, Yes but How can Guru participate in rajayoga > for Tula native. > > The other aspects you have discussed like malayoga or > malika yoga may have the potency for the great > results. I am reluctant to treat shani-guru as > Rajayoga. Also 7th lordship gets a taint( Dosh) > Marakesh dosh, here shani is sixth lord as well. With > just taking kendra and kona lordships we will get > Shani-Ravi in a Rajayoga which is highly unlikely. > > Thanks for your inputs > > Satish > --- Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 > <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> > wrote: > > > Dear Satish, > > > > There are many ways that two planets can have > > sambandhas and this is one > > of them. You will also find Saturn and Jupiter not > > only with each other > > but aspecting each other's rasi which is an even > > stronger sambandha than > > that with Mars. Sun, Moon and Venus are in triple > > exchange as against > > direct exchange of house with similar results. At my > > age, I can not > > recall instantly the reference but I think Chandra > > kala nadi does talk > > about such triple and even quadruple exchanges > > giving similar results. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > ________ > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with the Search weather shortcut. > http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather > <http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather> > > > ------ > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/718 - Release 3/11/2007 9:27 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Namaste Chandrashekharji It'll be wonderful, if you can locate the yogas and references in Deva Keralam. My lagna is Gemini and Venus is in Aquarius, Saturn in Aries, Mars in Pisces, and Jupiter in Libra. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 3/11/07, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Bharat, > > This is the equivalent of the four grahas acting as if in own house in > the bhavas and rasis that they occupy. The results will depend on the > Lagna and bhava occupied. I will let you know the specific yoga in Deva > Keralam where such triple or sometimes quadruple exchanges are > mentioned, as soon as I locate the same. > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote: > > > > Namaste Sri Chandrashekhar > > > > In my chart, Venus is in Saturn's sign, Saturn in Mars' sign, Mars in > > Jupiter's sign and Jupiter in Venus sign. I wonder what that means. > > Can you > > try and recall the reference in Deva Keralam? > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > On 10 Mar 2007 12:12:36 -0800, Chandrashekhar > > <chandrashekhar46 <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk> < > chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > There are many ways that two planets can have sambandhas and this is > one > > > of them. You will also find Saturn and Jupiter not only with each > other > > > but aspecting each other's rasi which is an even stronger sambandha > than > > > that with Mars. Sun, Moon and Venus are in triple exchange as against > > > direct exchange of house with similar results. At my age, I can not > > > recall instantly the reference but I think Chandra kala nadi does talk > > > about such triple and even quadruple exchanges giving similar results. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > SPK wrote: > > > > > > > > Chadrashekharji, > > > > > > > > One more point, how come mars aspecting jupiter and > > > > his sign makes sambandha between mars and jupiter ? He > > > > is apsetcing it from sign of budh. This is not anytar > > > > dristi. I am not clear about sun, moon and venus > > > > acting as if in their own houses. I am not aware of > > > > how dispositorships will make planets behave as if in > > > > their own houses. Can you please site a reference for > > > > this ? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46<chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk> > > <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk><chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk> > > > > > <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > You are right in that Saturn and Jupiter in the 2nd > > > > > means coming > > > > > together of the square and the Trine lords, thus a > > > > > raj yoga occurring in > > > > > the house of wealth. Yogakaraka Mars occupies the > > > > > 11th bhava indicating > > > > > learning and fortune being responsible for his > > > > > income. Again we see > > > > > Sambandha between Jupiter the 5th lord and mars the > > > > > Yogakaraka as mars > > > > > aspects Jupiter and also the 5th house. Then we have > > > > > a triple exchange > > > > > by reason of Sun occupying rasi of Moon whose > > > > > depositor Venus occupies > > > > > the rasi of Sun. So three grahas act as if placed in > > > > > own house. You will > > > > > also see the lagna lord Sun and 5th lord Jupiter > > > > > both occupying trines > > > > > in Navamsha and getting strength therefrom. The > > > > > Yogakaraka mars is in > > > > > 8th house in the navamsha. The 8th sign is Mars's > > > > > own rasi in natural > > > > > zodiac too. So all the Dharma trikona lords are in > > > > > strength here, though > > > > > that is not apparent at first glance. I would say > > > > > he trained very hard > > > > > to achieve what he did as the 5th lord Jupiter is in > > > > > strength. Then he > > > > > has a Mala yoga from 11th to the 3rd bhava, > > > > > indicative of good wealth > > > > > which as no.1 in tennis he apparently does possess. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > It's here! Your new message! > > > > Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. > > > > http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ > > <http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/> > > > > <http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ > > <http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/>> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: > > 3/4/2007 > > > 1:58 PM > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Phaladeepika Ch 6 sloka 32 32. If two planets occupy each other's sign (house) they are said to have interchanged places. the action of the planets is also called Parivartana. There can be 66 such combinations caused by the various pairs formed of the lords of the houses from the Asc. 1 to the 12th; 30 such pairs are made by the lords of the 6th, 8th and 12th and these yogas are called Dainya; and 8 are created by the lord of the 3rd. - Bharat Hindu Astrology Monday, March 12, 2007 11:26 AM Re: Roger Federer - Authentic data Namaste Chandrashekharji It'll be wonderful, if you can locate the yogas and references in Deva Keralam. My lagna is Gemini and Venus is in Aquarius, Saturn in Aries, Mars in Pisces, and Jupiter in Libra. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 3/11/07, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Bharat, > > This is the equivalent of the four grahas acting as if in own house in > the bhavas and rasis that they occupy. The results will depend on the > Lagna and bhava occupied. I will let you know the specific yoga in Deva > Keralam where such triple or sometimes quadruple exchanges are > mentioned, as soon as I locate the same. > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote: > > > > Namaste Sri Chandrashekhar > > > > In my chart, Venus is in Saturn's sign, Saturn in Mars' sign, Mars in > > Jupiter's sign and Jupiter in Venus sign. I wonder what that means. > > Can you > > try and recall the reference in Deva Keralam? > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > On 10 Mar 2007 12:12:36 -0800, Chandrashekhar > > <chandrashekhar46 <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk> < > chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > There are many ways that two planets can have sambandhas and this is > one > > > of them. You will also find Saturn and Jupiter not only with each > other > > > but aspecting each other's rasi which is an even stronger sambandha > than > > > that with Mars. Sun, Moon and Venus are in triple exchange as against > > > direct exchange of house with similar results. At my age, I can not > > > recall instantly the reference but I think Chandra kala nadi does talk > > > about such triple and even quadruple exchanges giving similar results. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > SPK wrote: > > > > > > > > Chadrashekharji, > > > > > > > > One more point, how come mars aspecting jupiter and > > > > his sign makes sambandha between mars and jupiter ? He > > > > is apsetcing it from sign of budh. This is not anytar > > > > dristi. I am not clear about sun, moon and venus > > > > acting as if in their own houses. I am not aware of > > > > how dispositorships will make planets behave as if in > > > > their own houses. Can you please site a reference for > > > > this ? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46<chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk> > > <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk><chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk> > > > > > <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > You are right in that Saturn and Jupiter in the 2nd > > > > > means coming > > > > > together of the square and the Trine lords, thus a > > > > > raj yoga occurring in > > > > > the house of wealth. Yogakaraka Mars occupies the > > > > > 11th bhava indicating > > > > > learning and fortune being responsible for his > > > > > income. Again we see > > > > > Sambandha between Jupiter the 5th lord and mars the > > > > > Yogakaraka as mars > > > > > aspects Jupiter and also the 5th house. Then we have > > > > > a triple exchange > > > > > by reason of Sun occupying rasi of Moon whose > > > > > depositor Venus occupies > > > > > the rasi of Sun. So three grahas act as if placed in > > > > > own house. You will > > > > > also see the lagna lord Sun and 5th lord Jupiter > > > > > both occupying trines > > > > > in Navamsha and getting strength therefrom. The > > > > > Yogakaraka mars is in > > > > > 8th house in the navamsha. The 8th sign is Mars's > > > > > own rasi in natural > > > > > zodiac too. So all the Dharma trikona lords are in > > > > > strength here, though > > > > > that is not apparent at first glance. I would say > > > > > he trained very hard > > > > > to achieve what he did as the 5th lord Jupiter is in > > > > > strength. Then he > > > > > has a Mala yoga from 11th to the 3rd bhava, > > > > > indicative of good wealth > > > > > which as no.1 in tennis he apparently does possess. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > It's here! 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Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Chandrashekharji, Thanks for your input. I have one question for you. Would you consider Shani-ravi sambandha a rajayoga for simha lagna ? It is also a trinal( 1st) and kendra(7th) lords coming in association. On the same note would you consider Guru-shukra association as rajayoga for simha native ? How will the sixth lordship play in guru-shani sambandha in simha lagna native. Thanks Satish --- Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > Dear Satish, > > The text you have read might be titled Laghu > Parashari, but believe me > that raj yogas caused by grahas are not indicated in > the original Laghu > Parashari or what is known as Ududaaya Pradeep, nor > are any nishphal > yogas mentioned. It contains 42 shlokas to be exact. > > Again I have never said that Guru is yoga causing > planet for Tula rasi. > I said that coming together of Saturn and Guru is a > raj yoga for Leo > lagna. Please read my mail again carefully. > > I think you are confusing between the dasha of a > maraka graha and its > being a Kendra Lord conjunct a Trikona Lord. Of > course you could be > right and I wrong. > > Chandrashekhar. > ______________________________\ ____ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 On 3/12/07, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Chandrashekharji, > > Thanks for your input. I have one question for you. > Would you consider Shani-ravi sambandha a rajayoga for > simha lagna ? It is also a trinal( 1st) and > kendra(7th) lords coming in association. On the same > note would you consider Guru-shukra association as > rajayoga for simha native ? How will the sixth > lordship play in guru-shani sambandha in simha lagna > native. > > Thanks > > Satish Dear Satish, Apologies for intruding but imo, a planet can never really form a happy yoga with another, regardless of lordships, if it's either of the other's overall pachaka or vedhaka. Those that share a bodhaka-karaka linkage combine acceptably if their overall friendship is at least neutral (average yoga) or friendly (rather better). For those that don't have the table ready at hand, here's the natural pachaka-bodhaka-karaka-vedhaka string. Su: Sa-Ma-Ju-Ve Mo: Ve-Ma-Sa-Su Ma: Su-Mo-Sa-Me Me: Mo-Ju-Ve-Ma Ju: Sa-Ma-Mo-Su Ve: Mo-Me-Sa-Su Sa: Ve-Mo-Ju-Ma Be wary of suggestions of yogas out of Sa-Mo, Ju-Ve, Sa-Ma and similarly unlikely partnerships. I do believe, however, that with the right placements and when they get to override Sa and Ma respectively as lords of Aq and Sc, Ra and Ke can actually add meat to an association to something resembling a rajayoga. I've seen at least three charts where a Ra-Ve combination has worked quite well for the natives. Ashtakavargas throw up useful light on possible associations as well, as I'm sure you know. Cheers, Ramapriya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Dear Satish, I would. Shani as 6th lord will also give its results depending on the bhava it occupies. So if he is in the second the native could get his wealth through enemies, maternal relatives etc. Chandrashekhar. SPK wrote: > > Chandrashekharji, > > Thanks for your input. I have one question for you. > Would you consider Shani-ravi sambandha a rajayoga for > simha lagna ? It is also a trinal( 1st) and > kendra(7th) lords coming in association. On the same > note would you consider Guru-shukra association as > rajayoga for simha native ? How will the sixth > lordship play in guru-shani sambandha in simha lagna > native. > > Thanks > > Satish > --- Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 > <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> > wrote: > > > Dear Satish, > > > > The text you have read might be titled Laghu > > Parashari, but believe me > > that raj yogas caused by grahas are not indicated in > > the original Laghu > > Parashari or what is known as Ududaaya Pradeep, nor > > are any nishphal > > yogas mentioned. It contains 42 shlokas to be exact. > > > > Again I have never said that Guru is yoga causing > > planet for Tula rasi. > > I said that coming together of Saturn and Guru is a > > raj yoga for Leo > > lagna. Please read my mail again carefully. > > > > I think you are confusing between the dasha of a > > maraka graha and its > > being a Kendra Lord conjunct a Trikona Lord. Of > > course you could be > > right and I wrong. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > ________ > The fish are biting. > Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. > http://searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php > <http://searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php> > > > ------ > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/718 - Release 3/11/2007 9:27 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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