Give your detailed predictions on this puzzling horoscope

March 4, 2007

Dear Murlidhar

I took only a short time to look at this chart so wont give detailed

predictions!

The man is outgoing by nature and has high aspirations for himself which will

propel him into a position of leadership. During Mars dasa this will culminate

in honours and recognition for his achievements.

He wears a uniform and leads units of people, as well as travels around

especially inner city areas, but often wider, and has overseas missions to

administer also. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a tank or some other military

commander.

He has good administrative ability and commands the respect of those who work

for him. He could either be a member of the forces, or the military police, he

will be in a position to administer justice.He will rule a region connected to

his field of work.

Physically he looked old when young and has a youthful appearance in age in

addition the hip region is a well endowed part of the body--pear shaped

hips.During Mars dasa he will have experienced some breakages to limbs?

During Mars dasa he will also have been thinking about his retirement, and

during Saturn transit of Cancer he will have experienced health problems, while

at the onset of Rahu dasa he will grieve the loss of a loved one--possibly a

mother figure. During this transit there will also have been separations within

the family, possibly news of inheritance also.

During Rahu dasa he will still strive to achieve his ambitions, but without the

considerable

power and control he enjoyed during Mars dasa, and might even consider

publishing/media related fields as a means of adding to his income and

professional activities.

people with sag asc generally span two careers in their lifetime one in a

profession and one in a commercial field.

Hi children will be well placed in life and placed in careers where they

exercise discernment and utilise good educational attainment?

That's all I have time for, must get on with other charts now

best wishes

M

-

Murlidhar Ayyar

Sunday, March 04, 2007 11:47 AM

Re: Re: Give your detailed predictions on this

puzzling horoscope

Dear Sir,

Your readings are perfect. This man had very good relations with his parents

in their entire lifetime. He has a good family with a respectable wife & two

healthy & lovely kids. Since last 2 years he does feel at times problems of

potency.

Please give your predictions on his professional status, Mars Mahadasha & Rahu

Mahadasha.

Regards

Murlidhar

Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote:

Dear Muralidhar,

It seems you have given a very puzzling chart. Anyway, in the view of

lack of specific query it is really difficult to analyze an entire chart.

Having said that, I think the person had lack of Pitru sukha in having

much difference of opinion with his father. Even family life in general

may not be very happy as an exalted mars occupies the 2nd bhava. I would

say he has affliction to the 5th house, but would doubt if it can be

called Pitrudosha, as Sun who is lord of the 5th is free of

afflictions. I would also say that the person does not have faith on

anybody for any length of time since Moon occupies the 9th bhava. It is

likely that he has some health problems and worries about progeny from

the time Saturn entered retrograde in Cancer around 11th of January this

year.

Please let me know how far off the mark I am.

Chandrashekhar.

Bhaskar wrote:

>

> Dear Murlidhara,

>

> If nothing matches, then no use studying further,

> for me at least. I quit this chart here and now.

>

> Its not just puzzling if all answers are No,

> but not even comprehensible from any angle it seems.

>

> If all The other astrolgers too You have met are not

> able to predict correctly for this chart, then you

> would have to search the answers within the birth of

> time given ,thats all I can say at the moment.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> <%40>, " murlidharayyar "

> <murlidharayyar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir

> >

> > I have replied below against your questions. I am sure you will

> also

> > find this horoscope puzzling. Furthermore this person's parents

> also

> > lived long.

> >

> > Regards

> > Murlidhar

> >

> <%40>, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Murlidhar,

> > >

> > > Has this Man seen lot of transfers in his life ? No

> > > Dissapointments in love affairs. No

> > > Made lot of wealth too. No

> > > Shifting to New houses frequently. No

> > > Abortions to his childrens. No

> > > Lot of suffering and back stabbings seen by him, NO BACKSTABBING

> > > implicated in false case, legal problems ? Never

> > >

> > > Is he in hospital at the moment ? No

> > > Was he jailed ever ? Never

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> <%40>, Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sir,

> > > >

> > > > The horoscope I have posted is for discussion & it is not

> > mine. I

> > > woul welcome people to analyse & the choose whatever they want to

> > > predict. This very horoscope made me to learn Astrology. Many

> > > professional astrologers predicted entirely contradictory things.

> > > >

> > > > All the details are absolutely correct, yet no one could

> > predict

> > > correctly so far. I am sure the group members can take it as a

> > > challenge & start predicting, I will confirm their observations &

> > > predictions.

> > > >

> > > > Love & Respect to all

> > > >

> > > > Awaiting the reply to the challenging situation.

> > > >

> > > > Kind Regards

> > > >

> > > > Murlidhar

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Murlidhara,

> > > >

> > > > Who can have Chakras(Whorls)on all his fingers, except our

> > > > Lord Krishna ? And Your name is also same.

> > > >

> > > > Detailed readings neccissitate a Personal astrologer,who can

> > > > give full time of 2-3 days to the chart,and the chart owner

> > > > in return considers such time given by payment in monetary

> > > > considerations for the efforts and time taken by the astrologer.

> > > >

> > > > You need also a Trikal Darshi, and such people are not

> > > > available on Public Forums.

> > > >

> > > > My advise to You, is re-post Your enquiry with

> > > > just 1-2 important queries troubling you, and one of

> > > > the respected members working on this Forum,

> > > > may help you.

> > > >

> > > > I personally do not have any type of knowledge which

> > > > may help You.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> <%40>, " murlidharayyar "

> > > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Person born on 1st April 1958 at 00.35 AM at Delhi

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth Star Magha 1st pad, Lagna Dhanu

> > > > > 1st house Saturn, 2nd house Mars, 3rd house Venus, 4th house

> > Sun,

> > > > 5th

> > > > > house Mercury & Ketu, 9th house Moon, 11th house Retrogate

> > > Jupiter

> > > > &

> > > > > Rahu.

> > > > >

> > > > > The predictions of many astrologers have baffled this person.

> > > > > Also please confirm does this person has any pitra dosha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lookying forward to the detailed prediction with regard to

> > > > everything

> > > > > of the past present & future, irrespective of being good, bad

> > or

> > > > ugly.

> > > > > What is in store for this person in the lunar eclipse of 3rd

> > March

> > > > >

> > > > > Also please note this person has chakra in all his 10 fingers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best of luck & regards to every one

> > > > >

> > > > > Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

> > Answers

> > > >

March 4, 2007

Dear Murlidhar.

I do not need your help.

I did not ask for your help.

I just quit with my last post with this blind chart..

//Should you wish not to spend any time of yours on this chart

because your observations are not correct. I cant help. //

You should not write this way. Naturally if my observations

dont match the results given by you, then why should I go on further

trying to predict. I understand all these tricks and do not wish to

fall in thsi trap.,from which I have just come out voluntarily.

No one knows the truth.,except You.

Talking of generalisations of character analysis is done in

palmistry. Astrology is for real predictive stuff. What,where,why and

when ?

If the predictions do not match the set paramaters as per your say

so, then tell me why should one waste his time further.

Am I being paid to study the chart or spend time trying to find out

or connect anything (Nothing) you have said to us about the native ?

And

you said yourself that all the details given by you are correct, yet

till today no one could predict correctly so far.

Does that mean that all the astrologers you have met have no

knowledge and are wrong, but only your birth time is still right ?

That means the birth time is correct and you just want to challenge

people so that more and more info.can come out from them. Or else the

birth time is wrong

and you have no means of checking that astrologically but yet want to

say that You are correct with the birth time.

I am unable to understand this imbroglio.

When I had already quit then there was no need to make above

statement and prick a person further into trying to predict the

chart. what does that mean ? It can only mean looking for

free stuff and trying to get in as much as one can get.

If my predictions were not matching at all, then why should you

write to me further. You have just joined on 15th february and this

is your first post on this Forum,

and I think You may be an alias id here to prove certain people wrong

and your ownself (In other names) right. This has been happenning

offlate, and thats the reason I go for selective

readings nowadays. I dont know why I fell in this trap.

Please,and kindly keep me out of this,

Bhaskar.

, Murlidhar Ayyar

<murlidharayyar wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar

>

> I can only tell you only the truth. I cant help if it is all NO.

The Birth timings are absolutely correct. Should you wish not to

spend any time of yours on this chart because your observations are

not correct. I cant help.

>

> Thanks for devoting some time of yours

>

> Murlidhar

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Murlidhara,

>

> If nothing matches, then no use studying further,

> for me at least. I quit this chart here and now.

>

> Its not just puzzling if all answers are No,

> but not even comprehensible from any angle it seems.

>

> If all The other astrolgers too You have met are not

> able to predict correctly for this chart, then you

> would have to search the answers within the birth of

> time given ,thats all I can say at the moment.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " murlidharayyar "

> <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir

> >

> > I have replied below against your questions. I am sure you will

> also

> > find this horoscope puzzling. Furthermore this person's parents

> also

> > lived long.

> >

> > Regards

> > Murlidhar

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Murlidhar,

> > >

> > > Has this Man seen lot of transfers in his life ? No

> > > Dissapointments in love affairs. No

> > > Made lot of wealth too. No

> > > Shifting to New houses frequently. No

> > > Abortions to his childrens. No

> > > Lot of suffering and back stabbings seen by him, NO BACKSTABBING

> > > implicated in false case, legal problems ? Never

> > >

> > > Is he in hospital at the moment ? No

> > > Was he jailed ever ? Never

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sir,

> > > >

> > > > The horoscope I have posted is for discussion & it is not

> > mine. I

> > > woul welcome people to analyse & the choose whatever they want

to

> > > predict. This very horoscope made me to learn Astrology. Many

> > > professional astrologers predicted entirely contradictory

things.

> > > >

> > > > All the details are absolutely correct, yet no one could

> > predict

> > > correctly so far. I am sure the group members can take it as a

> > > challenge & start predicting, I will confirm their observations

&

> > > predictions.

> > > >

> > > > Love & Respect to all

> > > >

> > > > Awaiting the reply to the challenging situation.

> > > >

> > > > Kind Regards

> > > >

> > > > Murlidhar

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Murlidhara,

> > > >

> > > > Who can have Chakras(Whorls)on all his fingers, except our

> > > > Lord Krishna ? And Your name is also same.

> > > >

> > > > Detailed readings neccissitate a Personal astrologer,who can

> > > > give full time of 2-3 days to the chart,and the chart owner

> > > > in return considers such time given by payment in monetary

> > > > considerations for the efforts and time taken by the

astrologer.

> > > >

> > > > You need also a Trikal Darshi, and such people are not

> > > > available on Public Forums.

> > > >

> > > > My advise to You, is re-post Your enquiry with

> > > > just 1-2 important queries troubling you, and one of

> > > > the respected members working on this Forum,

> > > > may help you.

> > > >

> > > > I personally do not have any type of knowledge which

> > > > may help You.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " murlidharayyar "

> > > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Person born on 1st April 1958 at 00.35 AM at Delhi

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth Star Magha 1st pad, Lagna Dhanu

> > > > > 1st house Saturn, 2nd house Mars, 3rd house Venus, 4th

house

> > Sun,

> > > > 5th

> > > > > house Mercury & Ketu, 9th house Moon, 11th house Retrogate

> > > Jupiter

> > > > &

> > > > > Rahu.

> > > > >

> > > > > The predictions of many astrologers have baffled this

person.

> > > > > Also please confirm does this person has any pitra dosha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lookying forward to the detailed prediction with regard to

> > > > everything

> > > > > of the past present & future, irrespective of being good,

bad

> > or

> > > > ugly.

> > > > > What is in store for this person in the lunar eclipse of

3rd

> > March

> > > > >

> > > > > Also please note this person has chakra in all his 10

fingers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best of luck & regards to every one

> > > > >

> > > > > Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

> > Answers

> > > >

March 4, 2007

Dear Murlidhar,

Thank you for confirming my readings.

I use 360 Savana days for calculation of Vimshottari dasha and by that

reckoning his Mars dasha will be over by 5th May 2007. During this

dasha, excessive expenditure and worry related to progeny could have

been the ill results but it would be generally be a good Dasha

otherwise. he might have had distant travels during this dasha which

began on 10th August 2000. But this is only a general statement as for

events both the transits and dashas up to at least pratyantar dasha

need to be considered. His Rahu dasha will begin after end of mars dasha

and generally this dasha would not be good regarding litigations etc,

but career wise it would be good, as rahu occupies rasi of Venus who is

11th and 6th lord. As I said there will be different effects during

different combinations of Dasha, Antardasha and Pratyantar dashas

coupled with transits at the relevant time.

Chandrashekhar.

Murlidhar Ayyar wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> Your readings are perfect. This man had very good relations with his

> parents in their entire lifetime. He has a good family with a

> respectable wife & two healthy & lovely kids. Since last 2 years he

> does feel at times problems of potency.

>

> Please give your predictions on his professional status, Mars

> Mahadasha & Rahu Mahadasha.

>

> Regards

> Murlidhar

>

> Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46

> <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> wrote:

> Dear Muralidhar,

> It seems you have given a very puzzling chart. Anyway, in the view of

> lack of specific query it is really difficult to analyze an entire chart.

>

> Having said that, I think the person had lack of Pitru sukha in having

> much difference of opinion with his father. Even family life in general

> may not be very happy as an exalted mars occupies the 2nd bhava. I would

> say he has affliction to the 5th house, but would doubt if it can be

> called Pitrudosha, as Sun who is lord of the 5th is free of

> afflictions. I would also say that the person does not have faith on

> anybody for any length of time since Moon occupies the 9th bhava. It is

> likely that he has some health problems and worries about progeny from

> the time Saturn entered retrograde in Cancer around 11th of January this

> year.

>

> Please let me know how far off the mark I am.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Bhaskar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Murlidhara,

> >

> > If nothing matches, then no use studying further,

> > for me at least. I quit this chart here and now.

> >

> > Its not just puzzling if all answers are No,

> > but not even comprehensible from any angle it seems.

> >

> > If all The other astrolgers too You have met are not

> > able to predict correctly for this chart, then you

> > would have to search the answers within the birth of

> > time given ,thats all I can say at the moment.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> <%40>

> > <%40>, " murlidharayyar "

> > <murlidharayyar wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir

> > >

> > > I have replied below against your questions. I am sure you will

> > also

> > > find this horoscope puzzling. Furthermore this person's parents

> > also

> > > lived long.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Murlidhar

> > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Murlidhar,

> > > >

> > > > Has this Man seen lot of transfers in his life ? No

> > > > Dissapointments in love affairs. No

> > > > Made lot of wealth too. No

> > > > Shifting to New houses frequently. No

> > > > Abortions to his childrens. No

> > > > Lot of suffering and back stabbings seen by him, NO BACKSTABBING

> > > > implicated in false case, legal problems ? Never

> > > >

> > > > Is he in hospital at the moment ? No

> > > > Was he jailed ever ? Never

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>, Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > The horoscope I have posted is for discussion & it is not

> > > mine. I

> > > > woul welcome people to analyse & the choose whatever they want to

> > > > predict. This very horoscope made me to learn Astrology. Many

> > > > professional astrologers predicted entirely contradictory things.

> > > > >

> > > > > All the details are absolutely correct, yet no one could

> > > predict

> > > > correctly so far. I am sure the group members can take it as a

> > > > challenge & start predicting, I will confirm their observations &

> > > > predictions.

> > > > >

> > > > > Love & Respect to all

> > > > >

> > > > > Awaiting the reply to the challenging situation.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kind Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Murlidhar

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Murlidhara,

> > > > >

> > > > > Who can have Chakras(Whorls)on all his fingers, except our

> > > > > Lord Krishna ? And Your name is also same.

> > > > >

> > > > > Detailed readings neccissitate a Personal astrologer,who can

> > > > > give full time of 2-3 days to the chart,and the chart owner

> > > > > in return considers such time given by payment in monetary

> > > > > considerations for the efforts and time taken by the astrologer.

> > > > >

> > > > > You need also a Trikal Darshi, and such people are not

> > > > > available on Public Forums.

> > > > >

> > > > > My advise to You, is re-post Your enquiry with

> > > > > just 1-2 important queries troubling you, and one of

> > > > > the respected members working on this Forum,

> > > > > may help you.

> > > > >

> > > > > I personally do not have any type of knowledge which

> > > > > may help You.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>, " murlidharayyar "

> > > > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Person born on 1st April 1958 at 00.35 AM at Delhi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth Star Magha 1st pad, Lagna Dhanu

> > > > > > 1st house Saturn, 2nd house Mars, 3rd house Venus, 4th house

> > > Sun,

> > > > > 5th

> > > > > > house Mercury & Ketu, 9th house Moon, 11th house Retrogate

> > > > Jupiter

> > > > > &

> > > > > > Rahu.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The predictions of many astrologers have baffled this person.

> > > > > > Also please confirm does this person has any pitra dosha.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lookying forward to the detailed prediction with regard to

> > > > > everything

> > > > > > of the past present & future, irrespective of being good, bad

> > > or

> > > > > ugly.

> > > > > > What is in store for this person in the lunar eclipse of 3rd

> > > March

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also please note this person has chakra in all his 10 fingers.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best of luck & regards to every one

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

> > > Answers

> > > > >

March 4, 2007

dear murali dhar,

tell me about his personal life- his family life and the children.

Kishore patnaik

On 3/4/07, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Murlidhar,

>

> Thank you for confirming my readings.

>

> I use 360 Savana days for calculation of Vimshottari dasha and by that

> reckoning his Mars dasha will be over by 5th May 2007. During this

> dasha, excessive expenditure and worry related to progeny could have

> been the ill results but it would be generally be a good Dasha

> otherwise. he might have had distant travels during this dasha which

> began on 10th August 2000. But this is only a general statement as for

> events both the transits and dashas up to at least pratyantar dasha

> need to be considered. His Rahu dasha will begin after end of mars dasha

> and generally this dasha would not be good regarding litigations etc,

> but career wise it would be good, as rahu occupies rasi of Venus who is

> 11th and 6th lord. As I said there will be different effects during

> different combinations of Dasha, Antardasha and Pratyantar dashas

> coupled with transits at the relevant time.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Murlidhar Ayyar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > Your readings are perfect. This man had very good relations with his

> > parents in their entire lifetime. He has a good family with a

> > respectable wife & two healthy & lovely kids. Since last 2 years he

> > does feel at times problems of potency.

> >

> > Please give your predictions on his professional status, Mars

> > Mahadasha & Rahu Mahadasha.

> >

> > Regards

> > Murlidhar

> >

> > Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46<chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>

> > <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> wrote:

> > Dear Muralidhar,

> > It seems you have given a very puzzling chart. Anyway, in the view of

> > lack of specific query it is really difficult to analyze an entire

> chart.

> >

> > Having said that, I think the person had lack of Pitru sukha in having

> > much difference of opinion with his father. Even family life in general

> > may not be very happy as an exalted mars occupies the 2nd bhava. I would

> > say he has affliction to the 5th house, but would doubt if it can be

> > called Pitrudosha, as Sun who is lord of the 5th is free of

> > afflictions. I would also say that the person does not have faith on

> > anybody for any length of time since Moon occupies the 9th bhava. It is

> > likely that he has some health problems and worries about progeny from

> > the time Saturn entered retrograde in Cancer around 11th of January this

> > year.

> >

> > Please let me know how far off the mark I am.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Bhaskar wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Murlidhara,

> > >

> > > If nothing matches, then no use studying further,

> > > for me at least. I quit this chart here and now.

> > >

> > > Its not just puzzling if all answers are No,

> > > but not even comprehensible from any angle it seems.

> > >

> > > If all The other astrolgers too You have met are not

> > > able to predict correctly for this chart, then you

> > > would have to search the answers within the birth of

> > > time given ,thats all I can say at the moment.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > <%40>, " murlidharayyar "

> > > <murlidharayyar wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sir

> > > >

> > > > I have replied below against your questions. I am sure you will

> > > also

> > > > find this horoscope puzzling. Furthermore this person's parents

> > > also

> > > > lived long.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Murlidhar

> > > >

> > > > <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > <%40>, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Murlidhar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Has this Man seen lot of transfers in his life ? No

> > > > > Dissapointments in love affairs. No

> > > > > Made lot of wealth too. No

> > > > > Shifting to New houses frequently. No

> > > > > Abortions to his childrens. No

> > > > > Lot of suffering and back stabbings seen by him, NO BACKSTABBING

> > > > > implicated in false case, legal problems ? Never

> > > > >

> > > > > Is he in hospital at the moment ? No

> > > > > Was he jailed ever ? Never

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > <%40>, Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The horoscope I have posted is for discussion & it is not

> > > > mine. I

> > > > > woul welcome people to analyse & the choose whatever they want to

> > > > > predict. This very horoscope made me to learn Astrology. Many

> > > > > professional astrologers predicted entirely contradictory things.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All the details are absolutely correct, yet no one could

> > > > predict

> > > > > correctly so far. I am sure the group members can take it as a

> > > > > challenge & start predicting, I will confirm their observations &

> > > > > predictions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Love & Respect to all

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Awaiting the reply to the challenging situation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kind Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Murlidhar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Murlidhara,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Who can have Chakras(Whorls)on all his fingers, except our

> > > > > > Lord Krishna ? And Your name is also same.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Detailed readings neccissitate a Personal astrologer,who can

> > > > > > give full time of 2-3 days to the chart,and the chart owner

> > > > > > in return considers such time given by payment in monetary

> > > > > > considerations for the efforts and time taken by the astrologer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You need also a Trikal Darshi, and such people are not

> > > > > > available on Public Forums.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My advise to You, is re-post Your enquiry with

> > > > > > just 1-2 important queries troubling you, and one of

> > > > > > the respected members working on this Forum,

> > > > > > may help you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I personally do not have any type of knowledge which

> > > > > > may help You.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > <%40>, " murlidharayyar "

> > > > > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Person born on 1st April 1958 at 00.35 AM at Delhi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Birth Star Magha 1st pad, Lagna Dhanu

> > > > > > > 1st house Saturn, 2nd house Mars, 3rd house Venus, 4th house

> > > > Sun,

> > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > house Mercury & Ketu, 9th house Moon, 11th house Retrogate

> > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > &

> > > > > > > Rahu.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The predictions of many astrologers have baffled this person.

> > > > > > > Also please confirm does this person has any pitra dosha.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lookying forward to the detailed prediction with regard to

> > > > > > everything

> > > > > > > of the past present & future, irrespective of being good, bad

> > > > or

> > > > > > ugly.

> > > > > > > What is in store for this person in the lunar eclipse of 3rd

> > > > March

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also please note this person has chakra in all his 10 fingers.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best of luck & regards to every one

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

> > > > Answers

> > > > > >

March 7, 2007

I feel this thread is a bit incomplete-- I'd like to learn a little more from

this.

Is it possible that some further information about this man be given, i.e.

his profession and WHY his chart has been a puzzle? I'd like to understand the

general

things most astrologers have said that were consistantly 'incorrect' and

find out specifically why they misinterpreted this man's chart.

Can anyone venture to explain to me in fairly simple terms some of the main

points?

Thanks

Lien

, " sheetalkardekar " <sheetalkardekar

wrote:

>

> namste shri bhaskar

> mr murlidar's kundali is very critical

> 1'st i though have problem of gurubal & his kulswami or kulswamini

> suport

> 2'nd thing he must find out his kuldaivat and have a good seva for

> god , he is sapit person, he have good money but not have mansanti &

> good family life

> in my small jotish egu & some good intuation i thout he must do seva

> of kuldaivat,mother & father

> jay bhavani

>

> shittal karrdekar

> , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> <hinduastrology@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sri Bhaskar

> >

> > Just one thought,

> >

> > If Prabhu Krishna or Buddha has 10 chakras on their fingers, it

> does not

> > mean all those who have the chakras become Lord Krishna.

> >

> > I know 3 people who have that and none come remotely close to be

> called

> > human, leave alone the lord.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> > On 01 Mar 2007 23:23:10 -0800, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Murlidhara,

> > >

> > > Who can have Chakras(Whorls)on all his fingers, except our

> > > Lord Krishna ? And Your name is also same.

> > >

> > > Detailed readings neccissitate a Personal astrologer,who can

> > > give full time of 2-3 days to the chart,and the chart owner

> > > in return considers such time given by payment in monetary

> > > considerations for the efforts and time taken by the astrologer.

> > >

> > > You need also a Trikal Darshi, and such people are not

> > > available on Public Forums.

> > >

> > > My advise to You, is re-post Your enquiry with

> > > just 1-2 important queries troubling you, and one of

> > > the respected members working on this Forum,

> > > may help you.

> > >

> > > I personally do not have any type of knowledge which

> > > may help You.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > <%

> 40>,

> > > " murlidharayyar "

> > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Person born on 1st April 1958 at 00.35 AM at Delhi

> > > >

> > > > Birth Star Magha 1st pad, Lagna Dhanu

> > > > 1st house Saturn, 2nd house Mars, 3rd house Venus, 4th house

> Sun,

> > > 5th

> > > > house Mercury & Ketu, 9th house Moon, 11th house Retrogate

> Jupiter

> > > &

> > > > Rahu.

> > > >

> > > > The predictions of many astrologers have baffled this person.

> > > > Also please confirm does this person has any pitra dosha.

> > > >

> > > > Lookying forward to the detailed prediction with regard to

> > > everything

> > > > of the past present & future, irrespective of being good, bad or

> > > ugly.

> > > > What is in store for this person in the lunar eclipse of 3rd

> March

> > > >

> > > > Also please note this person has chakra in all his 10 fingers.

> > > >

> > > > Best of luck & regards to every one

> > > >

> > > > Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > >

> > >

> >

March 7, 2007

Hello Lien,

I am still perplexed. Many questions are yet to be answered.Why this

mans chart was a puzzle ? What was the problem exactly ?

Why did the poster find general predictions very good and correct.

Why was he not looking for exact predictive type of stuff ? What was

he actually looking for ? If uptil today none of the astrologers he

met were right and could not forecast corectly, then what made him

think that astrologers on this Forum would answer right, and on what

basis did he find his given birth time right ?

Anyway I have left searching answers,a long time back. Now You

are going to get puzzled by this hopeless puzzle if you care to dwell

on this further.

regards,

Bhaskar,

, " lotus7moon " <lotus7moon

wrote:

>

> I feel this thread is a bit incomplete-- I'd like to learn a little

more from this.

> Is it possible that some further information about this man be

given, i.e.

> his profession and WHY his chart has been a puzzle? I'd like to

understand the general

> things most astrologers have said that were

consistantly 'incorrect' and

> find out specifically why they misinterpreted this man's chart.

> Can anyone venture to explain to me in fairly simple terms some of

the main points?

> Thanks

> Lien

>

> , " sheetalkardekar "

<sheetalkardekar@> wrote:

> >

> > namste shri bhaskar

> > mr murlidar's kundali is very critical

> > 1'st i though have problem of gurubal & his kulswami or

kulswamini

> > suport

> > 2'nd thing he must find out his kuldaivat and have a good seva

for

> > god , he is sapit person, he have good money but not have

mansanti &

> > good family life

> > in my small jotish egu & some good intuation i thout he must do

seva

> > of kuldaivat,mother & father

> > jay bhavani

> >

> > shittal karrdekar

> > , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> > <hinduastrology@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Bhaskar

> > >

> > > Just one thought,

> > >

> > > If Prabhu Krishna or Buddha has 10 chakras on their fingers, it

> > does not

> > > mean all those who have the chakras become Lord Krishna.

> > >

> > > I know 3 people who have that and none come remotely close to

be

> > called

> > > human, leave alone the lord.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > > On 01 Mar 2007 23:23:10 -0800, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Murlidhara,

> > > >

> > > > Who can have Chakras(Whorls)on all his fingers, except our

> > > > Lord Krishna ? And Your name is also same.

> > > >

> > > > Detailed readings neccissitate a Personal astrologer,who can

> > > > give full time of 2-3 days to the chart,and the chart owner

> > > > in return considers such time given by payment in monetary

> > > > considerations for the efforts and time taken by the

astrologer.

> > > >

> > > > You need also a Trikal Darshi, and such people are not

> > > > available on Public Forums.

> > > >

> > > > My advise to You, is re-post Your enquiry with

> > > > just 1-2 important queries troubling you, and one of

> > > > the respected members working on this Forum,

> > > > may help you.

> > > >

> > > > I personally do not have any type of knowledge which

> > > > may help You.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > " murlidharayyar "

> > > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Person born on 1st April 1958 at 00.35 AM at Delhi

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth Star Magha 1st pad, Lagna Dhanu

> > > > > 1st house Saturn, 2nd house Mars, 3rd house Venus, 4th

house

> > Sun,

> > > > 5th

> > > > > house Mercury & Ketu, 9th house Moon, 11th house Retrogate

> > Jupiter

> > > > &

> > > > > Rahu.

> > > > >

> > > > > The predictions of many astrologers have baffled this

person.

> > > > > Also please confirm does this person has any pitra dosha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lookying forward to the detailed prediction with regard to

> > > > everything

> > > > > of the past present & future, irrespective of being good,

bad or

> > > > ugly.

> > > > > What is in store for this person in the lunar eclipse of

3rd

> > March

> > > > >

> > > > > Also please note this person has chakra in all his 10

fingers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best of luck & regards to every one

> > > > >

> > > > > Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

March 7, 2007

Dear Lien

I think it would be good for the list to have this explained too, out of respect

for all those who actually spent time on the chart.

Or perhaps that's the puzzle we are to be left with:-)

best wishes

M

-

lotus7moon

Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:27 AM

Re: Give your detailed predictions on this puzzling

horoscope

I feel this thread is a bit incomplete-- I'd like to learn a little more from

this.

Is it possible that some further information about this man be given, i.e.

his profession and WHY his chart has been a puzzle? I'd like to understand the

general

things most astrologers have said that were consistantly 'incorrect' and

find out specifically why they misinterpreted this man's chart.

Can anyone venture to explain to me in fairly simple terms some of the main

points?

Thanks

Lien

, " sheetalkardekar " <sheetalkardekar

wrote:

>

> namste shri bhaskar

> mr murlidar's kundali is very critical

> 1'st i though have problem of gurubal & his kulswami or kulswamini

> suport

> 2'nd thing he must find out his kuldaivat and have a good seva for

> god , he is sapit person, he have good money but not have mansanti &

> good family life

> in my small jotish egu & some good intuation i thout he must do seva

> of kuldaivat,mother & father

> jay bhavani

>

> shittal karrdekar

> , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> <hinduastrology@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sri Bhaskar

> >

> > Just one thought,

> >

> > If Prabhu Krishna or Buddha has 10 chakras on their fingers, it

> does not

> > mean all those who have the chakras become Lord Krishna.

> >

> > I know 3 people who have that and none come remotely close to be

> called

> > human, leave alone the lord.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> > On 01 Mar 2007 23:23:10 -0800, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Murlidhara,

> > >

> > > Who can have Chakras(Whorls)on all his fingers, except our

> > > Lord Krishna ? And Your name is also same.

> > >

> > > Detailed readings neccissitate a Personal astrologer,who can

> > > give full time of 2-3 days to the chart,and the chart owner

> > > in return considers such time given by payment in monetary

> > > considerations for the efforts and time taken by the astrologer.

> > >

> > > You need also a Trikal Darshi, and such people are not

> > > available on Public Forums.

> > >

> > > My advise to You, is re-post Your enquiry with

> > > just 1-2 important queries troubling you, and one of

> > > the respected members working on this Forum,

> > > may help you.

> > >

> > > I personally do not have any type of knowledge which

> > > may help You.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > <%

> 40>,

> > > " murlidharayyar "

> > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Person born on 1st April 1958 at 00.35 AM at Delhi

> > > >

> > > > Birth Star Magha 1st pad, Lagna Dhanu

> > > > 1st house Saturn, 2nd house Mars, 3rd house Venus, 4th house

> Sun,

> > > 5th

> > > > house Mercury & Ketu, 9th house Moon, 11th house Retrogate

> Jupiter

> > > &

> > > > Rahu.

> > > >

> > > > The predictions of many astrologers have baffled this person.

> > > > Also please confirm does this person has any pitra dosha.

> > > >

> > > > Lookying forward to the detailed prediction with regard to

> > > everything

> > > > of the past present & future, irrespective of being good, bad or

> > > ugly.

> > > > What is in store for this person in the lunar eclipse of 3rd

> March

> > > >

> > > > Also please note this person has chakra in all his 10 fingers.

> > > >

> > > > Best of luck & regards to every one

> > > >

> > > > Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > >

> > >

> >

March 7, 2007

Murlidhar is yet to tell me about the native's family life because I

said " problem with children due to his sexual preferences " and the

reply is NO.

I hope my query is answered.

Kishore patnaik

On 07 Mar 2007 02:39:26 -0800, Marg <margie9 wrote:

> Dear Lien

> I think it would be good for the list to have this explained too, out of

> respect for all those who actually spent time on the chart.

> Or perhaps that's the puzzle we are to be left with:-)

> best wishes

> M

>

> -

> lotus7moon

>

> Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:27 AM

> Re: Give your detailed predictions on this

> puzzling horoscope

>

> I feel this thread is a bit incomplete-- I'd like to learn a little more

> from this.

> Is it possible that some further information about this man be given, i.e.

> his profession and WHY his chart has been a puzzle? I'd like to understand

> the general

> things most astrologers have said that were consistantly 'incorrect' and

> find out specifically why they misinterpreted this man's chart.

> Can anyone venture to explain to me in fairly simple terms some of the

> main points?

> Thanks

> Lien

>

> , " sheetalkardekar "

> <sheetalkardekar wrote:

> >

> > namste shri bhaskar

> > mr murlidar's kundali is very critical

> > 1'st i though have problem of gurubal & his kulswami or kulswamini

> > suport

> > 2'nd thing he must find out his kuldaivat and have a good seva for

> > god , he is sapit person, he have good money but not have mansanti &

> > good family life

> > in my small jotish egu & some good intuation i thout he must do seva

> > of kuldaivat,mother & father

> > jay bhavani

> >

> > shittal karrdekar

> > , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> > <hinduastrology@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Bhaskar

> > >

> > > Just one thought,

> > >

> > > If Prabhu Krishna or Buddha has 10 chakras on their fingers, it

> > does not

> > > mean all those who have the chakras become Lord Krishna.

> > >

> > > I know 3 people who have that and none come remotely close to be

> > called

> > > human, leave alone the lord.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > > On 01 Mar 2007 23:23:10 -0800, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Murlidhara,

> > > >

> > > > Who can have Chakras(Whorls)on all his fingers, except our

> > > > Lord Krishna ? And Your name is also same.

> > > >

> > > > Detailed readings neccissitate a Personal astrologer,who can

> > > > give full time of 2-3 days to the chart,and the chart owner

> > > > in return considers such time given by payment in monetary

> > > > considerations for the efforts and time taken by the astrologer.

> > > >

> > > > You need also a Trikal Darshi, and such people are not

> > > > available on Public Forums.

> > > >

> > > > My advise to You, is re-post Your enquiry with

> > > > just 1-2 important queries troubling you, and one of

> > > > the respected members working on this Forum,

> > > > may help you.

> > > >

> > > > I personally do not have any type of knowledge which

> > > > may help You.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > " murlidharayyar "

> > > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Person born on 1st April 1958 at 00.35 AM at Delhi

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth Star Magha 1st pad, Lagna Dhanu

> > > > > 1st house Saturn, 2nd house Mars, 3rd house Venus, 4th house

> > Sun,

> > > > 5th

> > > > > house Mercury & Ketu, 9th house Moon, 11th house Retrogate

> > Jupiter

> > > > &

> > > > > Rahu.

> > > > >

> > > > > The predictions of many astrologers have baffled this person.

> > > > > Also please confirm does this person has any pitra dosha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lookying forward to the detailed prediction with regard to

> > > > everything

> > > > > of the past present & future, irrespective of being good, bad or

> > > > ugly.

> > > > > What is in store for this person in the lunar eclipse of 3rd

> > March

> > > > >

> > > > > Also please note this person has chakra in all his 10 fingers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best of luck & regards to every one

> > > > >

> > > > > Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

March 7, 2007

Hello & Namaskar to everyone

I would like to thank all of you for having spent their valuable time. I am

extremely sorry for not posting further queries, details & feedback.

I refrained from any further posting because of Mr. Bhaskar. His mails &

replies indicated a healthy intellectual & positive discussions may not be

possible in this forum. I am not here to play politics. His replies like why

should anyone look into it without money, I might be some existing member &

using an alias to belittle someone etc, has surprised me, hurt me & above all

demolished my basic thought about becoming a member of excellent forum.

This person is going to turn 50 shortly, he wanted to set his priorities. I

came to know about this site luckily & I thought we all can help this person.

I am prepared to make a brief note of his entire life till date for all of you

to do the detailed study. I do not know who all would be interested. I am ready

to send this detail to the personal IDs of all those who wish.

I do not wish to upset Mr. Bhaskar therefore I propose to withdraw from his

forum.

My sincere thanks & kindest regards to all of you.

Yours affectionately

Murlidhar

Marg <margie9 wrote:

Dear Lien

I think it would be good for the list to have this explained too, out of respect

for all those who actually spent time on the chart.

Or perhaps that's the puzzle we are to be left with:-)

best wishes

M

-

lotus7moon

Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:27 AM

Re: Give your detailed predictions on this puzzling

horoscope

I feel this thread is a bit incomplete-- I'd like to learn a little more from

this.

Is it possible that some further information about this man be given, i.e.

his profession and WHY his chart has been a puzzle? I'd like to understand the

general

things most astrologers have said that were consistantly 'incorrect' and

find out specifically why they misinterpreted this man's chart.

Can anyone venture to explain to me in fairly simple terms some of the main

points?

Thanks

Lien

, " sheetalkardekar " <sheetalkardekar

wrote:

>

> namste shri bhaskar

> mr murlidar's kundali is very critical

> 1'st i though have problem of gurubal & his kulswami or kulswamini

> suport

> 2'nd thing he must find out his kuldaivat and have a good seva for

> god , he is sapit person, he have good money but not have mansanti &

> good family life

> in my small jotish egu & some good intuation i thout he must do seva

> of kuldaivat,mother & father

> jay bhavani

>

> shittal karrdekar

> , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> <hinduastrology@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sri Bhaskar

> >

> > Just one thought,

> >

> > If Prabhu Krishna or Buddha has 10 chakras on their fingers, it

> does not

> > mean all those who have the chakras become Lord Krishna.

> >

> > I know 3 people who have that and none come remotely close to be

> called

> > human, leave alone the lord.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> > On 01 Mar 2007 23:23:10 -0800, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Murlidhara,

> > >

> > > Who can have Chakras(Whorls)on all his fingers, except our

> > > Lord Krishna ? And Your name is also same.

> > >

> > > Detailed readings neccissitate a Personal astrologer,who can

> > > give full time of 2-3 days to the chart,and the chart owner

> > > in return considers such time given by payment in monetary

> > > considerations for the efforts and time taken by the astrologer.

> > >

> > > You need also a Trikal Darshi, and such people are not

> > > available on Public Forums.

> > >

> > > My advise to You, is re-post Your enquiry with

> > > just 1-2 important queries troubling you, and one of

> > > the respected members working on this Forum,

> > > may help you.

> > >

> > > I personally do not have any type of knowledge which

> > > may help You.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > <%

> 40>,

> > > " murlidharayyar "

> > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Person born on 1st April 1958 at 00.35 AM at Delhi

> > > >

> > > > Birth Star Magha 1st pad, Lagna Dhanu

> > > > 1st house Saturn, 2nd house Mars, 3rd house Venus, 4th house

> Sun,

> > > 5th

> > > > house Mercury & Ketu, 9th house Moon, 11th house Retrogate

> Jupiter

> > > &

> > > > Rahu.

> > > >

> > > > The predictions of many astrologers have baffled this person.

> > > > Also please confirm does this person has any pitra dosha.

> > > >

> > > > Lookying forward to the detailed prediction with regard to

> > > everything

> > > > of the past present & future, irrespective of being good, bad or

> > > ugly.

> > > > What is in store for this person in the lunar eclipse of 3rd

> March

> > > >

> > > > Also please note this person has chakra in all his 10 fingers.

> > > >

> > > > Best of luck & regards to every one

> > > >

> > > > Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > >

> > >

> >

March 7, 2007

On 3/7/07, Murlidhar Ayyar <murlidharayyar wrote:

>

> His mails & replies indicated a healthy intellectual & positive

> discussions may not be possible in this forum.

Dear Sri Ayyar, unless some irony has been wrongly conveyanced, I'm sure

you'll explain yourself. Are you implying that positive discussions aren't

possible where there's a healthy intellectual?

This person is going to turn 50 shortly, he wanted to set his priorities. I

> came to know about this site luckily & I thought we all can help this

> person.

And?

I am prepared to make a brief note of his entire life till date for all of

> you to do the detailed study. I do not know who all would be interested. I

> am ready to send this detail to the personal IDs of all those who wish.

After making us all bare our knowledge and the lack of it in full view,

don't you think you should be making a public posting to help us all

improve?

I do not wish to upset Mr. Bhaskar therefore I propose to withdraw from

> his forum.

Enjoy your sabbatical. I'm sure our paths will cross some day.

Cheers,

Ramapriya

March 7, 2007

On 3/7/07, Murlidhar Ayyar <murlidharayyar wrote:

>

> His mails & replies indicated a healthy intellectual & positive

> discussions may not be possible in this forum.

Dear Sri Ayyar, unless some irony has been wrongly conveyanced, I'm sure

you'll explain yourself. Are you implying that positive discussions aren't

possible where there's a healthy intellectual?

This person is going to turn 50 shortly, he wanted to set his priorities. I

> came to know about this site luckily & I thought we all can help this

> person.

And?

I am prepared to make a brief note of his entire life till date for all of

> you to do the detailed study. I do not know who all would be interested. I

> am ready to send this detail to the personal IDs of all those who wish.

After making us all bare our knowledge and the lack of it in full view,

don't you think you should be making a public posting to help us all

improve?

I do not wish to upset Mr. Bhaskar therefore I propose to withdraw from

> his forum.

Enjoy your sabbatical. I'm sure our paths will cross some day.

Cheers,

Ramapriya

March 7, 2007

Dear Murlidharji,

You talk about not upsetting Mr.Bhaskar, but your literal

utterances do not support that.

//I refrained from any further posting because of Mr. Bhaskar. His

mails & replies indicated a healthy intellectual & positive

discussions may not be possible in this forum. I am not here to play

politics. His replies like why should anyone look into it without

money, I might be some existing member & using an alias to belittle

someone etc, has surprised me, hurt me & above all demolished my

basic thought about becoming a member of excellent forum.//

I do not think any healthy or Intellectual or positive

discussion was going on at any point.Why should anyone look into it

without money - thats said because would you, if were in my place,

spend 1-2 days in trying to rectify a chart to make the chart

correspond with the events You have mentioned in natives life (And no

event or characteristic of native was mentioned by You till the time

I wrote this),so how could one rectify the chart in absence of any

details, or in absence of the results matching, as given to you by

me ? What wrong was said when I implied that it would

be a waste of time if one tried this without any fruitful

results (In this case I mentioned money) ? Would you do this for

anyone, No. Unless if you have no other work or you are a

multimillionare with spare time and taste for experimenting on blind

charts such as these, with no options given to choose from results.

I was plain honest that this chart is not working for me, so

I quit. Whats wrong with that ?

This is a excellent Forum and you do not wish to stay here because of

Mr.Bhaskar ? Or do you not wish to stay here, because now your cup is

full with replies from the members, and you have nothing more to

gather here and nothing to contribute ? Do not create venom for Mr.

Bhaskar before leaving or creating partitions in the Forum, by saying

so.If You have to walk out, then do so like a gentleman without

firing gun on Mr.Bhaskars shoulders. You better stay here Murlidharji

because I have a habit of talking straight without beating around the

bush,and this habit is causing problems for me. I cannot call a spade

- a jade. And talking from the heart and without diplomacy is not

welcome nowadays.I will be leaving anyway in a weeks time,and

coming here just for a rare visit out of affections .

I may have been mistaken about your using alias id. and playing

poiltics that time, but now it seems pretty sure.

Please send the details on personal id of those who are

interested ,but if they are intellectual discussions then why not let

the members of the Forum savour them too, why make loss to them,

just for one person Mr.Bhaskar ? It would be better if You ignore him.

You were waiting uptil now for more inputs from the members on your

(own) chart,and not refrained because of Mr.Bhaskar.

And unsubscription could have been done without coming here again,

and putting Bhaskar on the Cross and crucifying him.it can be done

straightaway from the Home Page too.

But I congratulate you for the first intellectual discussion given to

us since you joined two months back, and also for finally

finding true astrologers who could read the chart, in this Forum,

after so many years of existence and searching.

I would prefer to meet the Original Murlidhar instead of crossing

paths with You ever.

And You wont upset me,dont worry.

When a elephant walks mightily on the road, if a small fly sits on

his back, the elephant still merrily continues with his walk, without

getting disturbed .

God bless.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Murlidhar Ayyar

<murlidharayyar wrote:

>

> Hello & Namaskar to everyone

>

> I would like to thank all of you for having spent their valuable

time. I am extremely sorry for not posting further queries, details &

feedback.

>

> I refrained from any further posting because of Mr. Bhaskar. His

mails & replies indicated a healthy intellectual & positive

discussions may not be possible in this forum. I am not here to play

politics. His replies like why should anyone look into it without

money, I might be some existing member & using an alias to belittle

someone etc, has surprised me, hurt me & above all demolished my

basic thought about becoming a member of excellent forum.

>

> This person is going to turn 50 shortly, he wanted to set his

priorities. I came to know about this site luckily & I thought we all

can help this person.

>

> I am prepared to make a brief note of his entire life till date

for all of you to do the detailed study. I do not know who all would

be interested. I am ready to send this detail to the personal IDs of

all those who wish.

>

> I do not wish to upset Mr. Bhaskar therefore I propose to

withdraw from his forum.

>

> My sincere thanks & kindest regards to all of you.

>

> Yours affectionately

>

> Murlidhar

>

> Marg <margie9 wrote:

> Dear Lien

> I think it would be good for the list to have this explained too,

out of respect for all those who actually spent time on the chart.

> Or perhaps that's the puzzle we are to be left with:-)

> best wishes

> M

>

> -

> lotus7moon

>

> Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:27 AM

> Re: Give your detailed predictions on this

puzzling horoscope

>

> I feel this thread is a bit incomplete-- I'd like to learn a little

more from this.

> Is it possible that some further information about this man be

given, i.e.

> his profession and WHY his chart has been a puzzle? I'd like to

understand the general

> things most astrologers have said that were

consistantly 'incorrect' and

> find out specifically why they misinterpreted this man's chart.

> Can anyone venture to explain to me in fairly simple terms some of

the main points?

> Thanks

> Lien

>

> , " sheetalkardekar "

<sheetalkardekar@> wrote:

> >

> > namste shri bhaskar

> > mr murlidar's kundali is very critical

> > 1'st i though have problem of gurubal & his kulswami or

kulswamini

> > suport

> > 2'nd thing he must find out his kuldaivat and have a good seva

for

> > god , he is sapit person, he have good money but not have

mansanti &

> > good family life

> > in my small jotish egu & some good intuation i thout he must do

seva

> > of kuldaivat,mother & father

> > jay bhavani

> >

> > shittal karrdekar

> > , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> > <hinduastrology@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Bhaskar

> > >

> > > Just one thought,

> > >

> > > If Prabhu Krishna or Buddha has 10 chakras on their fingers, it

> > does not

> > > mean all those who have the chakras become Lord Krishna.

> > >

> > > I know 3 people who have that and none come remotely close to

be

> > called

> > > human, leave alone the lord.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > > On 01 Mar 2007 23:23:10 -0800, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Murlidhara,

> > > >

> > > > Who can have Chakras(Whorls)on all his fingers, except our

> > > > Lord Krishna ? And Your name is also same.

> > > >

> > > > Detailed readings neccissitate a Personal astrologer,who can

> > > > give full time of 2-3 days to the chart,and the chart owner

> > > > in return considers such time given by payment in monetary

> > > > considerations for the efforts and time taken by the

astrologer.

> > > >

> > > > You need also a Trikal Darshi, and such people are not

> > > > available on Public Forums.

> > > >

> > > > My advise to You, is re-post Your enquiry with

> > > > just 1-2 important queries troubling you, and one of

> > > > the respected members working on this Forum,

> > > > may help you.

> > > >

> > > > I personally do not have any type of knowledge which

> > > > may help You.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > " murlidharayyar "

> > > > <murlidharayyar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Person born on 1st April 1958 at 00.35 AM at Delhi

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth Star Magha 1st pad, Lagna Dhanu

> > > > > 1st house Saturn, 2nd house Mars, 3rd house Venus, 4th

house

> > Sun,

> > > > 5th

> > > > > house Mercury & Ketu, 9th house Moon, 11th house Retrogate

> > Jupiter

> > > > &

> > > > > Rahu.

> > > > >

> > > > > The predictions of many astrologers have baffled this

person.

> > > > > Also please confirm does this person has any pitra dosha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lookying forward to the detailed prediction with regard to

> > > > everything

> > > > > of the past present & future, irrespective of being good,

bad or

> > > > ugly.

> > > > > What is in store for this person in the lunar eclipse of

3rd

> > March

> > > > >

> > > > > Also please note this person has chakra in all his 10

fingers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best of luck & regards to every one

> > > > >

> > > > > Murlidhar Ayyar

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

March 7, 2007

Dear Murlidhar,

Yes, it is true that Bhaskar's, er, manner of speech

and highly sensitive defensiveness can be startling

and discouraging. But Bhaskar is NOT the sole member

of this group. In ALL groups you will find someone who

is not ideal, and yes, usually they respond to

everything.

Perhaps it is time to allow Bhaskar to be as he is,

and understand that it must be very emotionally trying

to be constantly at war with the world and seeing

Aliases in every post that doesn't agree with him. I'm

sure we ALL have our quirks that others have to put up

with and probably far worse ones.

So please try to see him with more charity. Try to not

take what he says personally, but see it instead as

the world he is trapped in. He (as we all) can only

see things in the way he can see them. If you see him

this way, then you will be open to seeing the good

information he posts (which he does) and let slide

away the less attractive things he says.

Please also stop to see how we may see YOU. You join

the list with coy offers and BEFORE Bhaskar ever

opened his mouth, you were NOT posting any other

details. Many people posted their ideas (and mine

where SPECTACULARLY wrong, almost enjoyably so), and

you either did not respond, or responded with a mere

yes or no and no details.

Now, when it is clear that no new information will be

forthcoming until you post details, THEN you suddenly

trot out Bhaskar as an excuse to not post anything and

leave.

I'm not saying that this is what you are doing, I'm

saying that this is how it APPEARS. So why not ignore

Bhaskar's appearance, and correct yours?

Post the details, and if ANYONE's post is offensive to

you, then get into the habit of deleting their posts

before you read them, if you feel you cannot overcome

your own sensitivity.

No group is made up of one person. And to ask members

to now come to you offlist and beg for more

information that they may now deserve without asking

is unpleasant.

If you don't want to post information, then don't. But

leave Bhaskar alone and don't blame him for your own

choices.

Mary

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March 7, 2007

Dear Mary,

That was a clear,outright,forthright,truthful and honest post

from You. Thank You. You can also be a good Counsellor.

I appreciate your post very much. You have won me over, though you

would not need me of course, You have ample strength of Your own.

I agree I have a potent ingrained problem in me. Am impulsive,

write without looking at repurcussions , or post without

re-readinhg what I have written, at times blunt with language, which

may hurt others (most of the times), and honestly confess that I am

aware of this and trying to improve. But it will take time.

45 years of nature is hard to change. But believe me, I bear no

malice, grudge, or harm of any sort, even to the worst of enemies who

do not like me. I treat all,inwardly with love and affections,

and bear compassion for all, though I may punish them with my

statements outwardly, but inside am very clear. Never allow

any hard feelings to linger on for long, never,

Thanks once again for understanding me.

Kind regards,

Bhaskar.

, Mary Quinn <mary1quinn

wrote:

>

> Dear Murlidhar,

>

> Yes, it is true that Bhaskar's, er, manner of speech

> and highly sensitive defensiveness can be startling

> and discouraging. But Bhaskar is NOT the sole member

> of this group. In ALL groups you will find someone who

> is not ideal, and yes, usually they respond to

> everything.

>

> Perhaps it is time to allow Bhaskar to be as he is,

> and understand that it must be very emotionally trying

> to be constantly at war with the world and seeing

> Aliases in every post that doesn't agree with him. I'm

> sure we ALL have our quirks that others have to put up

> with and probably far worse ones.

>

> So please try to see him with more charity. Try to not

> take what he says personally, but see it instead as

> the world he is trapped in. He (as we all) can only

> see things in the way he can see them. If you see him

> this way, then you will be open to seeing the good

> information he posts (which he does) and let slide

> away the less attractive things he says.

>

> Please also stop to see how we may see YOU. You join

> the list with coy offers and BEFORE Bhaskar ever

> opened his mouth, you were NOT posting any other

> details. Many people posted their ideas (and mine

> where SPECTACULARLY wrong, almost enjoyably so), and

> you either did not respond, or responded with a mere

> yes or no and no details.

>

> Now, when it is clear that no new information will be

> forthcoming until you post details, THEN you suddenly

> trot out Bhaskar as an excuse to not post anything and

> leave.

>

> I'm not saying that this is what you are doing, I'm

> saying that this is how it APPEARS. So why not ignore

> Bhaskar's appearance, and correct yours?

>

> Post the details, and if ANYONE's post is offensive to

> you, then get into the habit of deleting their posts

> before you read them, if you feel you cannot overcome

> your own sensitivity.

>

> No group is made up of one person. And to ask members

> to now come to you offlist and beg for more

> information that they may now deserve without asking

> is unpleasant.

>

> If you don't want to post information, then don't. But

> leave Bhaskar alone and don't blame him for your own

> choices.

>

> Mary

>

____________________

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> Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users.

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>

March 8, 2007

Dear Bhaskar Bhai

Greetings

It appears as if you have debiliated mars in your horoscope.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks

Jagdish

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Dear Mary,

That was a clear,outright,forthright,truthful and honest post

from You. Thank You. You can also be a good Counsellor.

I appreciate your post very much. You have won me over, though you

would not need me of course, You have ample strength of Your own.

I agree I have a potent ingrained problem in me. Am impulsive,

write without looking at repurcussions , or post without

re-readinhg what I have written, at times blunt with language, which

may hurt others (most of the times), and honestly confess that I am

aware of this and trying to improve. But it will take time.

45 years of nature is hard to change. But believe me, I bear no

malice, grudge, or harm of any sort, even to the worst of enemies who

do not like me. I treat all,inwardly with love and affections,

and bear compassion for all, though I may punish them with my

statements outwardly, but inside am very clear. Never allow

any hard feelings to linger on for long, never,

Thanks once again for understanding me.

Kind regards,

Bhaskar.

, Mary Quinn <mary1quinn

wrote:

>

> Dear Murlidhar,

>

> Yes, it is true that Bhaskar's, er, manner of speech

> and highly sensitive defensiveness can be startling

> and discouraging. But Bhaskar is NOT the sole member

> of this group. In ALL groups you will find someone who

> is not ideal, and yes, usually they respond to

> everything.

>

> Perhaps it is time to allow Bhaskar to be as he is,

> and understand that it must be very emotionally trying

> to be constantly at war with the world and seeing

> Aliases in every post that doesn't agree with him. I'm

> sure we ALL have our quirks that others have to put up

> with and probably far worse ones.

>

> So please try to see him with more charity. Try to not

> take what he says personally, but see it instead as

> the world he is trapped in. He (as we all) can only

> see things in the way he can see them. If you see him

> this way, then you will be open to seeing the good

> information he posts (which he does) and let slide

> away the less attractive things he says.

>

> Please also stop to see how we may see YOU. You join

> the list with coy offers and BEFORE Bhaskar ever

> opened his mouth, you were NOT posting any other

> details. Many people posted their ideas (and mine

> where SPECTACULARLY wrong, almost enjoyably so), and

> you either did not respond, or responded with a mere

> yes or no and no details.

>

> Now, when it is clear that no new information will be

> forthcoming until you post details, THEN you suddenly

> trot out Bhaskar as an excuse to not post anything and

> leave.

>

> I'm not saying that this is what you are doing, I'm

> saying that this is how it APPEARS. So why not ignore

> Bhaskar's appearance, and correct yours?

>

> Post the details, and if ANYONE's post is offensive to

> you, then get into the habit of deleting their posts

> before you read them, if you feel you cannot overcome

> your own sensitivity.

>

> No group is made up of one person. And to ask members

> to now come to you offlist and beg for more

> information that they may now deserve without asking

> is unpleasant.

>

> If you don't want to post information, then don't. But

> leave Bhaskar alone and don't blame him for your own

> choices.

>

> Mary

>

________

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> Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users.

> http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091

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March 8, 2007

Dear Prathmesh Bhai,

Greetings to You too.

I think most of the members from various Forums,

including yourself have discussed about my Chart

in the past,and my details have been given any time

asked for, and plenty of times so.

I do not have a debilated Mars. On the contrary

its stationed with Rahu, in the Fiery Sign Leo

where it stands dignified.

But My ascendant Leo (Vargottama ), Sun

in Gemini (conjunct with Mercury)

and Moon (in Sagittarius agaain a Fiery sign )all

being in Odd signs(5,3,9) with the effect of

Mars + Rahu (Agni Tattwa + to Cut), may

influence my nature, to what it is,

rash and at times hurting or unpolished.

But I hope there are other better things you

may be able to talk about me,

lets forget it,

I nowadays look upwards for succour, and

stopped consulting anyone for my own chart,

though people may look at it to connect

my terrible nature with the indications

therein.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Prathamesn Chawan

<upaoakcrest wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Bhai

>

> Greetings

>

> It appears as if you have debiliated mars in your horoscope.

>

> Please correct me if i am wrong.

>

> Thanks

>

> Jagdish

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Mary,

>

> That was a clear,outright,forthright,truthful and honest post

> from You. Thank You. You can also be a good Counsellor.

> I appreciate your post very much. You have won me over, though you

> would not need me of course, You have ample strength of Your own.

>

> I agree I have a potent ingrained problem in me. Am impulsive,

> write without looking at repurcussions , or post without

> re-readinhg what I have written, at times blunt with language, which

> may hurt others (most of the times), and honestly confess that I am

> aware of this and trying to improve. But it will take time.

> 45 years of nature is hard to change. But believe me, I bear no

> malice, grudge, or harm of any sort, even to the worst of enemies

who

> do not like me. I treat all,inwardly with love and affections,

> and bear compassion for all, though I may punish them with my

> statements outwardly, but inside am very clear. Never allow

> any hard feelings to linger on for long, never,

>

> Thanks once again for understanding me.

>

> Kind regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Mary Quinn <mary1quinn@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Murlidhar,

> >

> > Yes, it is true that Bhaskar's, er, manner of speech

> > and highly sensitive defensiveness can be startling

> > and discouraging. But Bhaskar is NOT the sole member

> > of this group. In ALL groups you will find someone who

> > is not ideal, and yes, usually they respond to

> > everything.

> >

> > Perhaps it is time to allow Bhaskar to be as he is,

> > and understand that it must be very emotionally trying

> > to be constantly at war with the world and seeing

> > Aliases in every post that doesn't agree with him. I'm

> > sure we ALL have our quirks that others have to put up

> > with and probably far worse ones.

> >

> > So please try to see him with more charity. Try to not

> > take what he says personally, but see it instead as

> > the world he is trapped in. He (as we all) can only

> > see things in the way he can see them. If you see him

> > this way, then you will be open to seeing the good

> > information he posts (which he does) and let slide

> > away the less attractive things he says.

> >

> > Please also stop to see how we may see YOU. You join

> > the list with coy offers and BEFORE Bhaskar ever

> > opened his mouth, you were NOT posting any other

> > details. Many people posted their ideas (and mine

> > where SPECTACULARLY wrong, almost enjoyably so), and

> > you either did not respond, or responded with a mere

> > yes or no and no details.

> >

> > Now, when it is clear that no new information will be

> > forthcoming until you post details, THEN you suddenly

> > trot out Bhaskar as an excuse to not post anything and

> > leave.

> >

> > I'm not saying that this is what you are doing, I'm

> > saying that this is how it APPEARS. So why not ignore

> > Bhaskar's appearance, and correct yours?

> >

> > Post the details, and if ANYONE's post is offensive to

> > you, then get into the habit of deleting their posts

> > before you read them, if you feel you cannot overcome

> > your own sensitivity.

> >

> > No group is made up of one person. And to ask members

> > to now come to you offlist and beg for more

> > information that they may now deserve without asking

> > is unpleasant.

> >

> > If you don't want to post information, then don't. But

> > leave Bhaskar alone and don't blame him for your own

> > choices.

> >

> > Mary

> >

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users.

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> >

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March 8, 2007

Namaste Sri Jagdish

Generally I have associated Debilitated Mars with loss of confidence and

avoidance of direct conflict.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

On 3/8/07, Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Bhai

>

> Greetings

>

> It appears as if you have debiliated mars in your horoscope.

>

> Please correct me if i am wrong.

>

> Thanks

>

> Jagdish

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish%40.co.in>>

> wrote:

> Dear Mary,

>

> That was a clear,outright,forthright,truthful and honest post

> from You. Thank You. You can also be a good Counsellor.

> I appreciate your post very much. You have won me over, though you

> would not need me of course, You have ample strength of Your own.

>

> I agree I have a potent ingrained problem in me. Am impulsive,

> write without looking at repurcussions , or post without

> re-readinhg what I have written, at times blunt with language, which

> may hurt others (most of the times), and honestly confess that I am

> aware of this and trying to improve. But it will take time.

> 45 years of nature is hard to change. But believe me, I bear no

> malice, grudge, or harm of any sort, even to the worst of enemies who

> do not like me. I treat all,inwardly with love and affections,

> and bear compassion for all, though I may punish them with my

> statements outwardly, but inside am very clear. Never allow

> any hard feelings to linger on for long, never,

>

> Thanks once again for understanding me.

>

> Kind regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> <%40>, Mary

> Quinn <mary1quinn

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Murlidhar,

> >

> > Yes, it is true that Bhaskar's, er, manner of speech

> > and highly sensitive defensiveness can be startling

> > and discouraging. But Bhaskar is NOT the sole member

> > of this group. In ALL groups you will find someone who

> > is not ideal, and yes, usually they respond to

> > everything.

> >

> > Perhaps it is time to allow Bhaskar to be as he is,

> > and understand that it must be very emotionally trying

> > to be constantly at war with the world and seeing

> > Aliases in every post that doesn't agree with him. I'm

> > sure we ALL have our quirks that others have to put up

> > with and probably far worse ones.

> >

> > So please try to see him with more charity. Try to not

> > take what he says personally, but see it instead as

> > the world he is trapped in. He (as we all) can only

> > see things in the way he can see them. If you see him

> > this way, then you will be open to seeing the good

> > information he posts (which he does) and let slide

> > away the less attractive things he says.

> >

> > Please also stop to see how we may see YOU. You join

> > the list with coy offers and BEFORE Bhaskar ever

> > opened his mouth, you were NOT posting any other

> > details. Many people posted their ideas (and mine

> > where SPECTACULARLY wrong, almost enjoyably so), and

> > you either did not respond, or responded with a mere

> > yes or no and no details.

> >

> > Now, when it is clear that no new information will be

> > forthcoming until you post details, THEN you suddenly

> > trot out Bhaskar as an excuse to not post anything and

> > leave.

> >

> > I'm not saying that this is what you are doing, I'm

> > saying that this is how it APPEARS. So why not ignore

> > Bhaskar's appearance, and correct yours?

> >

> > Post the details, and if ANYONE's post is offensive to

> > you, then get into the habit of deleting their posts

> > before you read them, if you feel you cannot overcome

> > your own sensitivity.

> >

> > No group is made up of one person. And to ask members

> > to now come to you offlist and beg for more

> > information that they may now deserve without asking

> > is unpleasant.

> >

> > If you don't want to post information, then don't. But

> > leave Bhaskar alone and don't blame him for your own

> > choices.

> >

> > Mary

> >

> ________

> ______________

> > Need Mail bonding?

> > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users.

> > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091

> >

>

> We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love

> (and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

>

March 8, 2007

Namaste Sri Bhaskar

You are learned enough to know which remedies to take. If you need

assistance on that issue, I'd make myself available.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

On 07 Mar 2007 21:15:31 -0800, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Prathmesh Bhai,

>

> Greetings to You too.

>

> I think most of the members from various Forums,

> including yourself have discussed about my Chart

> in the past,and my details have been given any time

> asked for, and plenty of times so.

>

> I do not have a debilated Mars. On the contrary

> its stationed with Rahu, in the Fiery Sign Leo

> where it stands dignified.

> But My ascendant Leo (Vargottama ), Sun

> in Gemini (conjunct with Mercury)

> and Moon (in Sagittarius agaain a Fiery sign )all

> being in Odd signs(5,3,9) with the effect of

> Mars + Rahu (Agni Tattwa + to Cut), may

> influence my nature, to what it is,

> rash and at times hurting or unpolished.

>

> But I hope there are other better things you

> may be able to talk about me,

>

> lets forget it,

> I nowadays look upwards for succour, and

> stopped consulting anyone for my own chart,

> though people may look at it to connect

> my terrible nature with the indications

> therein.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> <%40>,

> Prathamesn Chawan

> <upaoakcrest wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar Bhai

> >

> > Greetings

> >

> > It appears as if you have debiliated mars in your horoscope.

> >

> > Please correct me if i am wrong.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Jagdish

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> > Dear Mary,

> >

> > That was a clear,outright,forthright,truthful and honest post

> > from You. Thank You. You can also be a good Counsellor.

> > I appreciate your post very much. You have won me over, though you

> > would not need me of course, You have ample strength of Your own.

> >

> > I agree I have a potent ingrained problem in me. Am impulsive,

> > write without looking at repurcussions , or post without

> > re-readinhg what I have written, at times blunt with language, which

> > may hurt others (most of the times), and honestly confess that I am

> > aware of this and trying to improve. But it will take time.

> > 45 years of nature is hard to change. But believe me, I bear no

> > malice, grudge, or harm of any sort, even to the worst of enemies

> who

> > do not like me. I treat all,inwardly with love and affections,

> > and bear compassion for all, though I may punish them with my

> > statements outwardly, but inside am very clear. Never allow

> > any hard feelings to linger on for long, never,

> >

> > Thanks once again for understanding me.

> >

> > Kind regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > <%40>,

> Mary Quinn <mary1quinn@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Murlidhar,

> > >

> > > Yes, it is true that Bhaskar's, er, manner of speech

> > > and highly sensitive defensiveness can be startling

> > > and discouraging. But Bhaskar is NOT the sole member

> > > of this group. In ALL groups you will find someone who

> > > is not ideal, and yes, usually they respond to

> > > everything.

> > >

> > > Perhaps it is time to allow Bhaskar to be as he is,

> > > and understand that it must be very emotionally trying

> > > to be constantly at war with the world and seeing

> > > Aliases in every post that doesn't agree with him. I'm

> > > sure we ALL have our quirks that others have to put up

> > > with and probably far worse ones.

> > >

> > > So please try to see him with more charity. Try to not

> > > take what he says personally, but see it instead as

> > > the world he is trapped in. He (as we all) can only

> > > see things in the way he can see them. If you see him

> > > this way, then you will be open to seeing the good

> > > information he posts (which he does) and let slide

> > > away the less attractive things he says.

> > >

> > > Please also stop to see how we may see YOU. You join

> > > the list with coy offers and BEFORE Bhaskar ever

> > > opened his mouth, you were NOT posting any other

> > > details. Many people posted their ideas (and mine

> > > where SPECTACULARLY wrong, almost enjoyably so), and

> > > you either did not respond, or responded with a mere

> > > yes or no and no details.

> > >

> > > Now, when it is clear that no new information will be

> > > forthcoming until you post details, THEN you suddenly

> > > trot out Bhaskar as an excuse to not post anything and

> > > leave.

> > >

> > > I'm not saying that this is what you are doing, I'm

> > > saying that this is how it APPEARS. So why not ignore

> > > Bhaskar's appearance, and correct yours?

> > >

> > > Post the details, and if ANYONE's post is offensive to

> > > you, then get into the habit of deleting their posts

> > > before you read them, if you feel you cannot overcome

> > > your own sensitivity.

> > >

> > > No group is made up of one person. And to ask members

> > > to now come to you offlist and beg for more

> > > information that they may now deserve without asking

> > > is unpleasant.

> > >

> > > If you don't want to post information, then don't. But

> > > leave Bhaskar alone and don't blame him for your own

> > > choices.

> > >

> > > Mary

> > >

> > ________

> > ______________

> > > Need Mail bonding?

> > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers

> users.

> > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091

> > >

> >

> > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love

> > (and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

> >

March 8, 2007

On 3/8/07, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Jagdish

>

> Generally I have associated Debilitated Mars with loss of confidence and

> avoidance of direct conflict.

I agree. A contrite barbarian would be one.

Ramapriya

March 8, 2007

Hare Rama Krsna

Pranam Jagdishji and others,

In my observation as well, a native with debilitated mars , takes a lot of

time to take inititaive and do it more gently than radically and

aggresively. The conflict stays is in the mind of native and doesn't seek to

take outward manifestation .

Swati

Namah Shivaya

On 3/8/07, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Jagdish

>

> Generally I have associated Debilitated Mars with loss of confidence and

> avoidance of direct conflict.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 3/8/07, Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest<upaoakcrest%40>>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar Bhai

> >

> > Greetings

> >

> > It appears as if you have debiliated mars in your horoscope.

> >

> > Please correct me if i am wrong.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Jagdish

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

<bhaskar_jyotish%40.co.in><bhaskar_jyotish%

> 40.co.in>>

> > wrote:

> > Dear Mary,

> >

> > That was a clear,outright,forthright,truthful and honest post

> > from You. Thank You. You can also be a good Counsellor.

> > I appreciate your post very much. You have won me over, though you

> > would not need me of course, You have ample strength of Your own.

> >

> > I agree I have a potent ingrained problem in me. Am impulsive,

> > write without looking at repurcussions , or post without

> > re-readinhg what I have written, at times blunt with language, which

> > may hurt others (most of the times), and honestly confess that I am

> > aware of this and trying to improve. But it will take time.

> > 45 years of nature is hard to change. But believe me, I bear no

> > malice, grudge, or harm of any sort, even to the worst of enemies who

> > do not like me. I treat all,inwardly with love and affections,

> > and bear compassion for all, though I may punish them with my

> > statements outwardly, but inside am very clear. Never allow

> > any hard feelings to linger on for long, never,

> >

> > Thanks once again for understanding me.

> >

> > Kind regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

<%40><%40>, Mary

>

> > Quinn <mary1quinn

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Murlidhar,

> > >

> > > Yes, it is true that Bhaskar's, er, manner of speech

> > > and highly sensitive defensiveness can be startling

> > > and discouraging. But Bhaskar is NOT the sole member

> > > of this group. In ALL groups you will find someone who

> > > is not ideal, and yes, usually they respond to

> > > everything.

> > >

> > > Perhaps it is time to allow Bhaskar to be as he is,

> > > and understand that it must be very emotionally trying

> > > to be constantly at war with the world and seeing

> > > Aliases in every post that doesn't agree with him. I'm

> > > sure we ALL have our quirks that others have to put up

> > > with and probably far worse ones.

> > >

> > > So please try to see him with more charity. Try to not

> > > take what he says personally, but see it instead as

> > > the world he is trapped in. He (as we all) can only

> > > see things in the way he can see them. If you see him

> > > this way, then you will be open to seeing the good

> > > information he posts (which he does) and let slide

> > > away the less attractive things he says.

> > >

> > > Please also stop to see how we may see YOU. You join

> > > the list with coy offers and BEFORE Bhaskar ever

> > > opened his mouth, you were NOT posting any other

> > > details. Many people posted their ideas (and mine

> > > where SPECTACULARLY wrong, almost enjoyably so), and

> > > you either did not respond, or responded with a mere

> > > yes or no and no details.

> > >

> > > Now, when it is clear that no new information will be

> > > forthcoming until you post details, THEN you suddenly

> > > trot out Bhaskar as an excuse to not post anything and

> > > leave.

> > >

> > > I'm not saying that this is what you are doing, I'm

> > > saying that this is how it APPEARS. So why not ignore

> > > Bhaskar's appearance, and correct yours?

> > >

> > > Post the details, and if ANYONE's post is offensive to

> > > you, then get into the habit of deleting their posts

> > > before you read them, if you feel you cannot overcome

> > > your own sensitivity.

> > >

> > > No group is made up of one person. And to ask members

> > > to now come to you offlist and beg for more

> > > information that they may now deserve without asking

> > > is unpleasant.

> > >

> > > If you don't want to post information, then don't. But

> > > leave Bhaskar alone and don't blame him for your own

> > > choices.

> > >

> > > Mary

> > >

> > ________

> > ______________

> > > Need Mail bonding?

> > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users.

> > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091

> > >

> >

> > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love

> > (and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

> >

March 8, 2007

Namaste Sri Ramapriya

Barbarian would be if Mars is severely afflicted with malefics. Just by

debilitation on may only be contrite.. .not a barbarian.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

On 07 Mar 2007 22:22:09 -0800, D Ramapriya <ramapriya.d wrote:

>

> On 3/8/07, Bharat Hindu Astrology

<hinduastrology<hinduastrology%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sri Jagdish

> >

> > Generally I have associated Debilitated Mars with loss of confidence and

> > avoidance of direct conflict.

>

> I agree. A contrite barbarian would be one.

>

> Ramapriya

>

March 8, 2007

Correction

Barbarian would be if Mars is severely afflicted with malefics. Just by

debilitation ONE (not on) may only be contrite..... not a barbarian.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

On 3/8/07, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Ramapriya

>

> Barbarian would be if Mars is severely afflicted with malefics. Just by

> debilitation on may only be contrite.. .not a barbarian.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 07 Mar 2007 22:22:09 -0800, D Ramapriya <ramapriya.d wrote:

> >

> > On 3/8/07, Bharat Hindu Astrology

<hinduastrology<hinduastrology%40gmail.com>>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Jagdish

> > >

> > > Generally I have associated Debilitated Mars with loss of confidence

> > and

> > > avoidance of direct conflict.

> >

> > I agree. A contrite barbarian would be one.

> >

> > Ramapriya

> >

March 8, 2007

Namaste Shri Bharatji,

I may need that Sir, and shall make use of

Your help in time to come.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

<hinduastrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Bhaskar

>

> You are learned enough to know which remedies to take. If you need

> assistance on that issue, I'd make myself available.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 07 Mar 2007 21:15:31 -0800, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prathmesh Bhai,

> >

> > Greetings to You too.

> >

> > I think most of the members from various Forums,

> > including yourself have discussed about my Chart

> > in the past,and my details have been given any time

> > asked for, and plenty of times so.

> >

> > I do not have a debilated Mars. On the contrary

> > its stationed with Rahu, in the Fiery Sign Leo

> > where it stands dignified.

> > But My ascendant Leo (Vargottama ), Sun

> > in Gemini (conjunct with Mercury)

> > and Moon (in Sagittarius agaain a Fiery sign )all

> > being in Odd signs(5,3,9) with the effect of

> > Mars + Rahu (Agni Tattwa + to Cut), may

> > influence my nature, to what it is,

> > rash and at times hurting or unpolished.

> >

> > But I hope there are other better things you

> > may be able to talk about me,

> >

> > lets forget it,

> > I nowadays look upwards for succour, and

> > stopped consulting anyone for my own chart,

> > though people may look at it to connect

> > my terrible nature with the indications

> > therein.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > Prathamesn Chawan

> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar Bhai

> > >

> > > Greetings

> > >

> > > It appears as if you have debiliated mars in your horoscope.

> > >

> > > Please correct me if i am wrong.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Jagdish

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > Dear Mary,

> > >

> > > That was a clear,outright,forthright,truthful and honest post

> > > from You. Thank You. You can also be a good Counsellor.

> > > I appreciate your post very much. You have won me over, though

you

> > > would not need me of course, You have ample strength of Your

own.

> > >

> > > I agree I have a potent ingrained problem in me. Am impulsive,

> > > write without looking at repurcussions , or post without

> > > re-readinhg what I have written, at times blunt with language,

which

> > > may hurt others (most of the times), and honestly confess that

I am

> > > aware of this and trying to improve. But it will take time.

> > > 45 years of nature is hard to change. But believe me, I bear no

> > > malice, grudge, or harm of any sort, even to the worst of

enemies

> > who

> > > do not like me. I treat all,inwardly with love and affections,

> > > and bear compassion for all, though I may punish them with my

> > > statements outwardly, but inside am very clear. Never allow

> > > any hard feelings to linger on for long, never,

> > >

> > > Thanks once again for understanding me.

> > >

> > > Kind regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > <%

40>,

> > Mary Quinn <mary1quinn@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Murlidhar,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, it is true that Bhaskar's, er, manner of speech

> > > > and highly sensitive defensiveness can be startling

> > > > and discouraging. But Bhaskar is NOT the sole member

> > > > of this group. In ALL groups you will find someone who

> > > > is not ideal, and yes, usually they respond to

> > > > everything.

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps it is time to allow Bhaskar to be as he is,

> > > > and understand that it must be very emotionally trying

> > > > to be constantly at war with the world and seeing

> > > > Aliases in every post that doesn't agree with him. I'm

> > > > sure we ALL have our quirks that others have to put up

> > > > with and probably far worse ones.

> > > >

> > > > So please try to see him with more charity. Try to not

> > > > take what he says personally, but see it instead as

> > > > the world he is trapped in. He (as we all) can only

> > > > see things in the way he can see them. If you see him

> > > > this way, then you will be open to seeing the good

> > > > information he posts (which he does) and let slide

> > > > away the less attractive things he says.

> > > >

> > > > Please also stop to see how we may see YOU. You join

> > > > the list with coy offers and BEFORE Bhaskar ever

> > > > opened his mouth, you were NOT posting any other

> > > > details. Many people posted their ideas (and mine

> > > > where SPECTACULARLY wrong, almost enjoyably so), and

> > > > you either did not respond, or responded with a mere

> > > > yes or no and no details.

> > > >

> > > > Now, when it is clear that no new information will be

> > > > forthcoming until you post details, THEN you suddenly

> > > > trot out Bhaskar as an excuse to not post anything and

> > > > leave.

> > > >

> > > > I'm not saying that this is what you are doing, I'm

> > > > saying that this is how it APPEARS. So why not ignore

> > > > Bhaskar's appearance, and correct yours?

> > > >

> > > > Post the details, and if ANYONE's post is offensive to

> > > > you, then get into the habit of deleting their posts

> > > > before you read them, if you feel you cannot overcome

> > > > your own sensitivity.

> > > >

> > > > No group is made up of one person. And to ask members

> > > > to now come to you offlist and beg for more

> > > > information that they may now deserve without asking

> > > > is unpleasant.

> > > >

> > > > If you don't want to post information, then don't. But

> > > > leave Bhaskar alone and don't blame him for your own

> > > > choices.

> > > >

> > > > Mary

> > > >

> > > ________

> > > ______________

> > > > Need Mail bonding?

> > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers

> > users.

> > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091

> > > >

> > >

> > > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love

> > > (and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

> > >

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