[hc] Fwd: Achievements of our Vedic-Hindu sage scientists

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hinducivilization , " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

<jyotirved wrote:

 

Shri Shankara Bharadwaj Khandavalliji,

Namaste!

< 1. You did not quote me. You quoted is what Sri Anand Sharan said.

My statement was that it is called big festival in AP for the correct

reason.>

 

My apologies for the faux pas.

 

<What I have been saying and you have just ignored, is that Sankranti

etc are farmer's festivals and not astronomer's festivals. Pitru

tarpana is not a celebration, it is not a festival. Sankranti is

called the big festival for the PRIMARY reason that it is the time of

harvest. >

Let me make it very clear once again! I am not debating at all as to

who should celebrate which " farmer's festival " when! I have made it

very clear literally hundreds of times that all I am asking is that

those who believe in celebrating religious ceremonies/festivals on

certain days must do so on correct days as per those very shastras on

the basis of which they are supposed to be celebrating them!

 

Let us take the case of Maha-Shivaratri. As everybody knows, every

Krishna-paksha Chaturdashi is a Shivaratri but there is only one Maha-

Shivaratri and that is on Saturday, January 24, 2009, instead of

February 23, 2009. This world famous luni-solar festival, like all

the other festivals, has got advanced by one month only because we

have advanced (Pauranic and sidhantic) Makar Sankranti, like all the

other Sankrantis, by about 24 days! Because this very advanced Makar

Sankranti, which is neither Pauranic nor sidhantic, least of all

Vedic, is being known as solar Magha, when actually solar Magha also

started on the day of Pauranic Makar Sankranti, which must coincide

with the real Uttarayana and not the Uttarayana of " Vedic

astrologers " .

Consequently, lunar Magha Shukla paksha, which should have started,

as per all the Vedas, Puranas and even the sidhantas on

December 28, 2008, also has been advanced by one month! Thus all the

lunar months get advanced by one month as against the real Vedic

months! That is why we celebrate Rama-Navmi very often not in

Madhumasa but Madhava and so on, because the very basis i.e. Gudi-

Padva-cum-Vasanti Navratra-cum-Chaitra shukladi is being advanced by

one month these days. That is also why we are " celebrating "

Pitramavasya on the day of actual Dipavali---simply because we have

advanced all the synodic months by one month!

If a similar trend continues, thanks to " Vedic astrologers " , after

about another two thousand years, all the lunar festivals will get

advance by at least two months---which means we will be " celebrating "

Magha in the real Vedic Chaitra and so on then!

It is really unfortunate that people like you feel pleasure in

discussing and contradicting a stance just for the sake of

contradicting it without doing any home work, leave alone spade work!

Do you know that as per all the Puranas and sidhantas inlcuding the

Surya Sidhanta by Maya the mlechha and Sidhanta Shiromani by the

latest sidhanta-kara of India, also, Makar Sankranti is really the

shortest day of the year and Mesha Sankranti the day when day is euql

to night? There is no other Makar Sankranti or Mesha Sankranti etc.

acording to any of those sidhantas in spite of some " scientists "

trying to subjugate them to some Shakuntala-Devi Ayanamsha!

 

It is only post Graha-laghava " Vedic jyotishis " (who would like to be

known as Tantric jyotishis now!) who say that sidhantas have

advocated a so called nirayana Makar Sankranti or Mesha Sankranti

etc. on the shoulders of hundreds of ayanamsha which they are trying

to peg to precession!

I can declare it with all the emphasis at my command that there is

absolutely no nirayana mess as per any of the sidhantas, leave alone

puranas, since most probably, none of the sidhantakars had any idea

about precession and if they did have it, they just ignored it since

they were following a tropical year and tropical months which are

impervious to the implications of precession!

 

<That a festival falls on a certain tithi, matches certain

astronomical phenomenon, is a known concept. And when all those do

not match for some reason, what prevails is the reason for

celebration and not the astronomical phenomenon. The latter is simply

not relevant in that case. >

This is a fantastic logic! Do you mean to say that Janmashtami must

be celebrated as and when it suits our whims and fancies instead of

Shravana Krishna Ashtami (Bhadra as per the mukhyamana!)? I fail to

understand as to what astronomy has to do with it?

Our Vedic seers, unlike the fake Vamadevas and a dime-a-dozen of

today's Parasharas, had a lot of common sense since they related the

solar months to seasons and pegged synodic months to those very solar

months!

If we had gone just by synodic (luni-solar) months unrelated to

seasons, we would have been doing exactly what Muslim calendar

advocates---celebrating Shravana-Purnima (Raksha Bandhan) sometimes

in Summer and then after a few years in Winter and so on! And if we

had been going just by the criteria that every

solar festival is to be celebrated on a fixed day, unrelated to

seasons, we would have been celebrating all the festivals like Xtian

festivals---Christmas always on December 25 and a New Year's Day

always after December 31!

No, my dear friend, Vedic calendar is much different and much

superior to all your pleadings, which are actually pleadings

of " Vedic astrologers " most of whom do not know even ABC of the Vedas!

 

<If Jyestha raising diametrically opposite to Mrigasira does not mark

the beginning of rainy season anymore, then the " festival " is not

when that astronomical event occurs - it is when rainy season begins.

You change the name of festival or complain that it is celebrated on

a wrong day, the criterion for wrong/right itself is different.>

 

You are again displaying your ignorance of even ABC of astronomy!

 

Stars are subject to precession and that is why we hear in the Vedas

that the " Krittikas do not deviate from the East... " and so on. You

are probablfy blissfully unaware that Krittikas no longer rise in the

East since the Vernal Equnix no longer falls in that nakshatra!

Similarly, there was a time when the Summer Solstice was conjunct

Ardra star exactly and that is why it was said to be the onset of

rainy season---Ardra Pravesh!

It was just like Nile river rising at the sight of Sirius (Lubdhaka --

Alpha Canis Majoris!) in Egypt in the past. That event no longer

takes place these days because the RA and declination of Sirius are

different these days and hence the dates of its Heliacal rising and

setting are much different now a days than they were in the past and

do not coincide with the rising of Nile!

 

As such, though Summer Solstice is still the onset of rainy season,

but it has nothing to do with Ardra Star these days for the simple

reason that the VE has precessed considerably and the distance

between the VE (or Summer Solstice) and Ardra (Alpha Orionis) today

is much different from what it was in the past!

That also must make so called " Sayana Vedic astrologers " eat a humble

pie since they are still trying to link Stars to Sayana Mesha, Vrisha

etc. Rashis---the same blunder Maya the mlechha of the Surya Sidhanta

committed!

So would you now be kind enough to do some real bit of homework and

then and only then, go on entering into endless discussions about

such points as I have clarified already several times either through

various posts or papers which are in the files section.

With regards,

A K Kaul

 

With regards,

A K Kaul

 

 

 

 

hinducivilization , ShankaraBharadwaj

Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj@> wrote:

>

> Pranam Sri A K Kaul ji,

>

> "

> I was just wondering as to why you have not interjected yet!

> Anyway, I did not have to wait for long! "

>

> Well, how would I disappoint you, after all!

>

> " Your comments, " But at the same time, Jan 14 which of course

should

> not be called Uttarayana, serves useful purpose in terms of

harvests

> in India. In Bihar, even marriage negotiations do not start before

> this day because in olden days, people were busy with harvests

which

> was their mainstay. As such, they should have devoted all their

time

> for this. Secondly, in Patna, the bitter cold , relatively

speaking,

> loses its punch. " are really a proof of the fact that you have no

> idea as to what you are talking about!

> "

>

> 1. You did not quote me. You quoted is what Sri Anand Sharan said.

My statement was that it is called big festival in AP for the correct

reason.

>

> 2. My statement is clear, and whether I have an idea or not, any

reader can get a clear idea of what I am talking about.

>

> What I have been saying and you have just ignored, is that

Sankranti etc are farmer's festivals and not astronomer's festivals.

Pitru tarpana is not a celebration, it is not a festival. Sankranti

is called the big festival for the PRIMARY reason that it is the time

of harvest.

>

> That a festival falls on a certain tithi, matches certain

astronomical phenomenon, is a known concept. And when all those do

not match for some reason, what prevails is the reason for

celebration and not the astronomical phenomenon. The latter is simply

not relevant in that case.

>

> If Jyestha raising diametrically opposite to Mrigasira does not

mark the beginning of rainy season anymore, then the " festival " is

not when that astronomical event occurs - it is when rainy season

begins. You change the name of festival or complain that it is

celebrated on a wrong day, the criterion for wrong/right itself is

different.

>

> Time or action will not have to change if the watch goes wrong!

What matters is the event of our life, not your astronomy! Your

argument is anti-teleological.

>

> " Do you know that if we go by the same Lahiriwalas' criterion that

> every seventy-two years, the Pongal-cum-Makar Sankranti has been

> advanced by one day in the past, it was then being celebrated on

the

> exact day of Uttarayana-- -the Winter Solstice--in 285 AD as per

all

> the Lahiriwalas themselves! What type of harvest time is that even

> for Patna? "

>

> Was there any " Lahiriwala " in 285 AD? Did the harvest festival get

celebrated with Winter Solstice at that time? What kind of argument

is this?

>

> I have mentioned very clearly, that astronomical-seasonal cycle-

festival-tithi is not a constant quadruple and has to be readjusted.

>

> "

> And a couple of thousand years hence, say in 4000 AD, Lahiri Pongal-

> cum-Makar Sankranti will be celebrated by about Febrtuary 15,

instead

> of January 15! What harvest time will it be then ? "

>

> Oh! Please do not worry, because the harvest will mark whatever

date at that time, there would have been a dozen adjustments to

calendar by that time. It all depends whether people follow

astronomers or astronomers follow the events of people's lives. For

now, let us understand that Sankranti, the big festival is going on

right.

>

> What is going on wrong is Pitru tarpana, where I agree with you.

Let us not mix things. Where it is right, it is right. Where it is

wrong, it is wrong.

>

> Though not really called for, let me sincerely suggest to you what

I feel. If you had not gone guns against the entire calendar and

jyotisha, and just stuck to where it really needed correction, you

would probably have got a much better response and support, not just

from this group but outside too.

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved@>

> hinducivilization

> Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:49:38 AM

> [hc] Fwd: Re: Achievements of our Vedic-Hindu sage

scientists

>

>

> Shri Shankara Bharadwaj Khandavalliji,

> Namaskar!

> I was just wondering as to why you have not interjected yet!

> Anyway, I did not have to wait for long!

> As usual, you are contradicting the contents of this post also just

> for the sake of registering your presence, without doing any

homework!

>

> Your comments, " But at the same time, Jan 14 which of course should

> not be called Uttarayana, serves useful purpose in terms of

harvests

> in India. In Bihar, even marriage negotiations do not start before

> this day because in olden days, people were busy with harvests

which

> was their mainstay. As such, they should have devoted all their

time

> for this. Secondly, in Patna, the bitter cold , relatively

speaking,

> loses its punch. " are really a proof of the fact that you have no

> idea as to what you are talking about!

> Do you know that if we go by the same Lahiriwalas' criterion that

> every seventy-two years, the Pongal-cum-Makar Sankranti has been

> advanced by one day in the past, it was then being celebrated on

the

> exact day of Uttarayana-- -the Winter Solstice--in 285 AD as per

all

> the Lahiriwalas themselves! What type of harvest time is that even

> for Patna?

>

> And a couple of thousand years hence, say in 4000 AD, Lahiri Pongal-

> cum-Makar Sankranti will be celebrated by about Febrtuary 15,

instead

> of January 15! What harvest time will it be then ?

> If at all you have to celebrate a " harvesting festival " in mid-

> January, for God's sake do not name it " Makar Sankranti " . since

> Makar Sankranti connotes a religious function more than anything

else

> and the Pauranic Makar Sankranti has to coincide with nothing but

> Uttarayana! Just give it any other name, as is being done by Shri

> Karuna Nidhi! He has started a New Tamil Year in mid January, but

> does not want to correlate it to any religion, nor any jyotisha,

for

> that matter.

> Then again, it is not only Pongal-cum-Makar Sankranti that is being

> celebrated on worng days but all the other Sankrantis including the

> Vishuva-cum- Meshadi-cum Mesha Sankrnati etc. is also being

celebrated

> on wrong days! For instance, there is no festival on July 15 the

> Lahiri Karka Sankranti whereas the Pauranic Karkata Sankranti does

> coincide with the day of Dakshinayana!

> Similarly, all the muhurtas also are being made to spin on their

> heads by " Vedic astrologers " .

> With regards,

> A K Kaul

>

> hinducivilization, ShankaraBharadwaj

> Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > " But at the same time, Jan 14

> > which of course should not be called Uttarayana, serves useful

> > purpose in terms of harvests in India. In Bihar, even marriage

> > negotiations do not start before this day because in olden days,

> > people were busy with harvests which was their mainstay. As such,

> > they should have devoted all their time for this. Secondly, in

> > Patna, the bitter cold , relatively speaking, loses its punch. "

> >

> >

> > Same is the case with Andhra Pradesh. Sankranti is harvest period

> as well as marks the fading of winter. It is called the " big

> festival " . That does not have to coincide with pitru tarpana, but

the

> main " festival " is not pitru tarpana but harvest.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > amsharanx <amsharanx@ ..>

> > hinducivilization

> > Friday, January 16, 2009 11:04:50 PM

> > [hc] Fwd: Re: Achievements of our Vedic-Hindu sage

> scientists

> >

>

 

--- End forwarded message ---

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hinducivilization , " Ravi " <ravi7640 wrote:

 

Thanks Avatarji. Very clearly stated and confusion is removed. I have

seen

Farmers almanac in USA which obviously is based on the season and the

planting of crops etc. Was or is there any such almanacs in India?

 

As a layman I agree with you that upon observation of the equal day

and

night, the shortest day and shortest night one could work out the

calendar.

As far as the calendar reforms are concerned your efforts are

laudable.

 

However your shadow fight against " vedic astrologers " might not get

as much

appreciation or support from Hindus since the belief in astrology is

entrenched within us and it would take a 'Bageeratha' to change that.

The

reason is as some members had explained many times, many of us after

having

consulted astrologers have received correct predictions (regardless

of what

the methods they follow) and we hence cannot find fault with the

system. Of

course you attribute such prowess to inherent human ability

for 'soothe

saying' etc. However to a common man like me it is very difficult to

completely denounce astrology. It is not the Hindus alone who consult

astrologers but I have seen many, many Muslims, Christians do so,

thus

taking away the Hindu aspect from it.

Ravi

 

-

" Avtar Krishen Kaul " <jyotirved

<hinducivilization >

Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:17 PM

[hc] Fwd: Re: Achievements of our Vedic-Hindu sage scientists

 

 

> Shri Raviji,

> Namaste!

> <How do we deal with the vagary of monsoon which can occur from mid

> May to mid June? Weather departments records speak so. Does our

> tradition has a fixed or shifting " rainy season " ?>

>

> Seasons (Ritus) have been discussed in the earliest Hindu scripture

> viz. the Rigveda's Purusha Sukta. It has said, " yat poorushena

> havisha deva yajnyam atanvatai, vasanto asyaseed ajyam, greeshma

> idmah sharad havih... " i.e. " When, with Man as their offering, The

> Gods performed the sacrifice, Spring was the oil (ghee)of sacrifice,

> Summer its fuel and Autumn its gift (offering) " .

> We also find references to all the six seasons in the Yajurveda---

> Madhushcha madhavaschai vasantikav ritu... clubbing two months to

> each season and thus making twelve months equal to six seasons.

>

> The Vedanga Jyotisha is very clear that from the day of Uttarayana,

> days go on increasing. It is also evident from all the Vedic

> literature that the four cardinal points viz. the two Solstices and

> two Equinoxes, which were known as Uttarayana, Dakshinayana, Vasanta

> Sampat and Hemanta Sampat respectively were given very high

> importance. At several places, a Samvatsara has been personified as

> the yajnya and then Prajapatih and all the seasons have been

declared

> as its limbs.

>

> Shishira Ritu is supposed to start from Winter Solstice i.e.

> Uttarayana and it is no exaggeration to say that it could be really

> the coldest day geographically because it is the shortest day of the

> year, with the result that sunlight remains available for the

> shortest interval of time on that date in northern regions, even if

> it makes no difference to anhybody living in Mumbai since maybe he

> will be using fans or even AC on that date because of the particular

> advantage or disadvantage of his/her location! But Uttarayana is

the

> shortest day of the year and if the Vedic seers made it start of the

> Shishira Ritu, hats off to them!

> Similarly, Summer Solstice is the start of Varsha Ritu. It is so

> because after the sunlight was available for the longest duration of

> the year on the day of Dakshinayana, the atmospheric temperatures

are

> supposed to be the maximum during that day! (However, pl. donot

jump

> at my throat if it is not so these days because of pollution etc.

> etc. etc.)

> Thus it could very well be the onset of rains since after maximum

> heat, rains are the usual expectations!

>

> Vasanta sampat i.e. Vernal Equinox is the second month of Vasanta

> Ritu because it is neither very cold nor hot then! Similarly,

Autumn

> Equinox is the middle of Hemanta--with a similar phenomenon

repeating

> itself.

>

> Seasons are aligned to seasonal years and nakshatras have absolutely

> nothing to do with them! What has happened is that because of

> precession of Equinoxes one or the other cardinal point has been in

> one or the other nakshatra in the past, like Winter Solstice being

in

> Dhanishtha at the time of the VJ and so on. That is why it could be

> said that Winter and Dhanishtha New Moon are one and the same thing,

> but that is a thing of the past since the Uttarayana no longer falls

> in that nakshatra now actually and Shishira Ritu has therefore

> nothing to do with Dhanishtha nakshatra nowadays.

> It is only " Vedic astrologers " who are making the confusion worst

> confounded!

> With regards,

> Avtar

>

>

> hinducivilization , " Ravi " <ravi7640@> wrote:

>>

>> Khandavalliji

>> You mentioned " If Jyestha raising diametrically opposite to

> Mrigasira does not mark the beginning of rainy season anymore, then

> the " festival " is not when that astronomical event occurs - it is

> when rainy season begins. You change the name of festival or

complain

> that it is celebrated on a wrong day, the criterion for wrong/right

> itself is different "

>> How do we deal with the vagary of monsoon which can occur from mid

> May to mid June? Weather departments records speak so. Does our

> tradition has a fixed or shifting " rainy season " ?

>> Ravi

>> -

>> ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli

>> hinducivilization

>> Saturday, January 17, 2009 2:27 AM

>> Re: [hc] Fwd: Re: Achievements of our Vedic-Hindu sage

> scientists

>>

>>

>> Pranam Sri A K Kaul ji,

>>

>> " I was just wondering as to why you have not interjected yet!

>> Anyway, I did not have to wait for long! "

>>

>> Well, how would I disappoint you, after all!

>>

>> " Your comments, " But at the same time, Jan 14 which of course

> should

>> not be called Uttarayana, serves useful purpose in terms of

> harvests

>> in India. In Bihar, even marriage negotiations do not start

> before

>> this day because in olden days, people were busy with harvests

> which

>> was their mainstay. As such, they should have devoted all their

> time

>> for this. Secondly, in Patna, the bitter cold , relatively

> speaking,

>> loses its punch. " are really a proof of the fact that you have no

>> idea as to what you are talking about!

>> "

>>

>> 1. You did not quote me. You quoted is what Sri Anand Sharan

> said. My statement was that it is called big festival in AP for the

> correct reason.

>>

>> 2. My statement is clear, and whether I have an idea or not, any

> reader can get a clear idea of what I am talking about.

>>

>> What I have been saying and you have just ignored, is that

> Sankranti etc are farmer's festivals and not astronomer's festivals.

> Pitru tarpana is not a celebration, it is not a festival. Sankranti

> is called the big festival for the PRIMARY reason that it is the

time

> of harvest.

>>

>> That a festival falls on a certain tithi, matches certain

> astronomical phenomenon, is a known concept. And when all those do

> not match for some reason, what prevails is the reason for

> celebration and not the astronomical phenomenon. The latter is

simply

> not relevant in that case.

>>

>> If Jyestha raising diametrically opposite to Mrigasira does not

> mark the beginning of rainy season anymore, then the " festival " is

> not when that astronomical event occurs - it is when rainy season

> begins. You change the name of festival or complain that it is

> celebrated on a wrong day, the criterion for wrong/right itself is

> different.

>>

>> Time or action will not have to change if the watch goes wrong!

> What matters is the event of our life, not your astronomy! Your

> argument is anti-teleological.

>>

>> " Do you know that if we go by the same Lahiriwalas' criterion

> that

>> every seventy-two years, the Pongal-cum-Makar Sankranti has been

>> advanced by one day in the past, it was then being celebrated on

> the

>> exact day of Uttarayana-- -the Winter Solstice--in 285 AD as per

> all

>> the Lahiriwalas themselves! What type of harvest time is that

> even

>> for Patna? "

>>

>> Was there any " Lahiriwala " in 285 AD? Did the harvest festival

> get celebrated with Winter Solstice at that time? What kind of

> argument is this?

>>

>> I have mentioned very clearly, that astronomical-seasonal cycle-

> festival-tithi is not a constant quadruple and has to be readjusted.

>>

>> " And a couple of thousand years hence, say in 4000 AD, Lahiri

> Pongal-

>> cum-Makar Sankranti will be celebrated by about Febrtuary 15,

> instead

>> of January 15! What harvest time will it be then ? "

>>

>> Oh! Please do not worry, because the harvest will mark whatever

> date at that time, there would have been a dozen adjustments to

> calendar by that time. It all depends whether people follow

> astronomers or astronomers follow the events of people's lives. For

> now, let us understand that Sankranti, the big festival is going on

> right.

>>

>> What is going on wrong is Pitru tarpana, where I agree with you.

> Let us not mix things. Where it is right, it is right. Where it is

> wrong, it is wrong.

>>

>> Though not really called for, let me sincerely suggest to you

> what I feel. If you had not gone guns against the entire calendar

and

> jyotisha, and just stuck to where it really needed correction, you

> would probably have got a much better response and support, not just

> from this group but outside too.

>>

>>

>>

>> -

-

> ----------

>> Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved@>

>> hinducivilization

>> Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:49:38 AM

>> [hc] Fwd: Re: Achievements of our Vedic-Hindu sage

> scientists

>>

>>

>> Shri Shankara Bharadwaj Khandavalliji,

>> Namaskar!

>> I was just wondering as to why you have not interjected yet!

>> Anyway, I did not have to wait for long!

>> As usual, you are contradicting the contents of this post also

> just

>> for the sake of registering your presence, without doing any

> homework!

>>

>> Your comments, " But at the same time, Jan 14 which of course

> should

>> not be called Uttarayana, serves useful purpose in terms of

> harvests

>> in India. In Bihar, even marriage negotiations do not start

> before

>> this day because in olden days, people were busy with harvests

> which

>> was their mainstay. As such, they should have devoted all their

> time

>> for this. Secondly, in Patna, the bitter cold , relatively

> speaking,

>> loses its punch. " are really a proof of the fact that you have no

>> idea as to what you are talking about!

>> Do you know that if we go by the same Lahiriwalas' criterion that

>> every seventy-two years, the Pongal-cum-Makar Sankranti has been

>> advanced by one day in the past, it was then being celebrated on

> the

>> exact day of Uttarayana-- -the Winter Solstice--in 285 AD as per

> all

>> the Lahiriwalas themselves! What type of harvest time is that

> even

>> for Patna?

>>

>> And a couple of thousand years hence, say in 4000 AD, Lahiri

> Pongal-

>> cum-Makar Sankranti will be celebrated by about Febrtuary 15,

> instead

>> of January 15! What harvest time will it be then ?

>> If at all you have to celebrate a " harvesting festival " in mid-

>> January, for God's sake do not name it " Makar Sankranti " . since

>> Makar Sankranti connotes a religious function more than anything

> else

>> and the Pauranic Makar Sankranti has to coincide with nothing but

>> Uttarayana! Just give it any other name, as is being done by Shri

>> Karuna Nidhi! He has started a New Tamil Year in mid January, but

>> does not want to correlate it to any religion, nor any jyotisha,

> for

>> that matter.

>> Then again, it is not only Pongal-cum-Makar Sankranti that is

> being

>> celebrated on worng days but all the other Sankrantis including

> the

>> Vishuva-cum- Meshadi-cum Mesha Sankrnati etc. is also being

> celebrated

>> on wrong days! For instance, there is no festival on July 15 the

>> Lahiri Karka Sankranti whereas the Pauranic Karkata Sankranti

> does

>> coincide with the day of Dakshinayana!

>> Similarly, all the muhurtas also are being made to spin on their

>> heads by " Vedic astrologers " .

>> With regards,

>> A K Kaul

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