Fwd: [hc] Achievements of our Vedic-Hindu sage scientists/Makara Sankranti

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Friday, January 16, 2009 6:42 PM

[hc] Achievements of our Vedic-Hindu sage scientists/Makara

Sankranti

 

 

> Kaul is 100% correct on this point. I have also pointed out this in

> my other posts. The fact that Vedic Uttarayana was equated with

> Makara Sankranti and then the method of fixing Makara sankranti got

> muddled up is no higher mathematics or Theory of Relativity.

> Evidences are there for every Hindu to see. I had heard that Sangha

> Parivar had decided to observe Sankranti on 22 December. I don't

know

> whether this info is correct or not. If yes, then GREAT otherwise

> well phu! phu!

> High time the so called Dharmacharya Sabha discusses this openly and

> adjudicate whether taking bath in Ganga and doing TarpaNam on a day

> other than the correct Udagayana is Dharmic or not. They should also

> interpret the modern Dharma Shastra books which talk of TarpaNam at

> the four sankrantis (Mesha, Tula, Karka, Makara) correctly as per

the

> ancient Vedic texts. The above four sankramanas are the four corners

> of Hindu religious observances of all castes and sects. Many

> festivals have also originated based on their positions. Observing

> Uttarayana on the wrong day (I am not talking of the time) is as

> wrong as observing Amaavaasya on Chaturthi! Of course no one does

> this mistake, simply because it is easy to see whether moon is

> visible or not (at least approximately). Uttarayana was also fixed

by

> observations in the Vedic past [see the Mahavrata, Pravargya and the

> 21 day rituals] and NOT BY CONSULTING AN ASTROLOGER'S WRONG

PANCANGA.

> I would be greatly satisfied if some one from the Dharmacharya Sabha

> headed by Sri SWami Dayananda Sarasvati (whom I hold in great

regard)

> refutes me and convinces me that the present Makara Sankranti of

> January 14th is the real Vedic Udagayana, same as the one that

> Krishna mentions in the Bhagavadgita.

>

> RN Iyengar

>

> hinducivilization , " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

> <jyotirved@> wrote:

>>>

>> Just one example will suffice:

>> Pongal--cum-Makar-Sankranti is supposed to be a seasonal festival.

>> But if Pongal is clubbed with Lahiri Makar Sankrnati, as is being

>> done by " Vedic astrologers " , it means it has been going on

> advancing

>> by one day every 72 years. Thus it must have coincided with

>> Uttarayana viz. the Winter Solstice in 285 AD---the zero year of

>> Lahiriwalas!

>> Prior to that, say in about 1400 BCE, the period of the Vedanga

>> Jyotisha, Lahiri-Pongal-cum-Lahiri-Makar-Sankranti was about

twenty-

>> four days (at the rate of one day for every seventy-two years for

>> 1400+285=1685 years) before Uttarayana i.e. around the beginning of

>> November in 1400 BCE as per the Julian calendar, if there could be

>> any such calendar then!

>> It means that Pongal would have been then exactly 24 days prior to

>> the real Uttarayana as it is ahead these days! What type of a

>> seasonal festival is it then?

>>

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