Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 hinducivilization , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " <jyotirved wrote: Shri Sreedhar Nambiarji, Namaskar! Many thanks for posting some shlokas from Bhagavata Purana! These shokas prove conclusively that we are celebrating all our festivals as per the whims and fancies of Lahiri and Ramanawalas etc. (thanks to the frauds who call themsleves " Vedic astrologers " --- especially the nirayana-walas!) instead of the Vedas or the Puranas. In fact I have done a similar exercise in BVB6.doc in the files section, which was reposted on December 4, 2008, (post No.32417) in this forum. I am copying below the relevant paras from that post and would request you and other " Vedic astrologers " to start celebrating festivals on so called Sayana basis---Makar Sankranti on the shortest day of the year and Mesha Sankranti on the day of Vernal Equinox and so on-----since that is what has been advised by not only Bhagaavata but all the other Puranas. With regards, A K Kaul *** **** *** 5. Puranas: I have already quoted hundreds of proofs with chapter and verse in my Panchangas and other articles. It is no use to repeat them here again. Suffice to quote a few only from a couple of Puranas. First the Vishnupurana: 2/8/28-31 and 67-68 ayanasyotarasyadav makaram yati bhaskarah tatah kumbham cha menam cha rashe rashyantaram dvija (28) trishu eteshu atha bhukteshu tato vaishuvatim gatim prayati savita kurvan ahoratram tatah samam (29) tato ratrih kshayam yati vardhate anudinam dinam (30) tatashcha mithunasyante param kashtham upagatah rashim karkatam prapya kurute dakshinayanam (31) " In the beginning of Uttarayana, the sun enters Capricorn (Makara Rashi) there from going to Kumbha and them Mina. After having passed through these three signs, it just gains vishuvati (equinoctial) speed resulting in the day and night being equal on Mesha. After that, nights start decreasing and the days increasing correspondingly daily. Then when the sun is in the end of Mithuna Rashi, i.e. when it is just at the verge of entering Cancer, the day is the longest then and Dakshnayana starts on that date " . Sharad vsantyor Madhye vishuvam to vibhavyete Tula mesh gate bhanav samratri divam tu tat (67) Karkatavasthite bhanav dakshiyanamuchete Uttarayanam api uktam makarasthe divakare (88) " In the midst of sharat ritu and vasanta ritu, vishuvas (equinoxes) take place with the entry of the sun into Tula (Libra) and Mesha (Aries) respectively and days and nights become equal on those two sankrantis. The entry of sun into Cancer (Karkata) is known as dakshinayana whereas its entry into Maraka is known as Uttarayana " Now Shrimadbhagavata, 5/21/4-6 yada mesh tulyor vartate tada ahoratrani samanani bhavanti yada vrishadishu panchasu cha rashishu charati tada ahani eva vardhante hrasati cha masi masi ekaika ghatika ratrishu (4) yada vrishchikadishu panchasu vartate tada ahoratrani viparyayani bhavanti (5) yavad dakshinayanam ahani vardhante yavad uttarayanam ratrayah (6) " When the sun enters Mesha and Tula days and nights are equal on those dates and the day starts getting longer as compared to nights when the sun passes through Vrisha etc. five rashis then days keep on increasing and the nights decreasing by one ghati every month. (After the day and night have become equal on Tula Sankranti) the nights keep on increasing during the sojourn of five rashis of Vrishchika etc. In short, during Uttarayana days keep on increasing till Dakshinayana and after that nights keep on increasing " . Vishnurhdarmotarapurana 3/8/6-8 says tula meshagate bhanav vishuvad dinam uchete, dhanvato mithunantashcha ayane soasya dakshine, " When the sun is in Mesha and Tula, they are the days of Vishuva i.e. days and nights are equal then. From the end of Dhanu (start of Makara) Uttarayana starts and from the end of Mithuna (start of Karkata) Dakshniyana starts " Any discussion on such topics is incomplete without appropriate references from Shivamahapurana: We just quote one 5/51/54 from this Purana below: madhavasya site pakshe tritiya ya akshayabida tasyam yo jagadambayah vratam kuryad atandritah… " The tritiya of Shukla paksha of Madhava (!) is know as akshayaya tritiya. One who observes a fast for Jagadamba on that date (gets immortal and thousand fold results) " It is to be noted here that Akshaya tritiya is to be observed in (lunar) Madhava that means according to Shiva-Mahapurana also Vaishakha does not have any other existence besides Madhava! Thus the akshyaya tritiya that we will be asked to celebrate on May 12, when solar Madhava will have ended on April 20 and lunar Madhava shukla paksha will start on April 8, 2005 which means it should be celebrated actually on April 11, 2005! Now obviously, if as per all the Vedas, Vedanga Jyotisha, Surya Sidhanta, Bhagavata, Vishnupurana, Vishnudharmotarapurana and Shiva Mahapurana etc. etc. solar Shravana is another name of Dakshinayana viz sun in Karkata, it starts on June 21 in 2005. The first shukla pratipat after that is on July 7, 2005. Therefore, that is the day when the Lunar Shravana will start in 2005 as per all the Vedas and Puranas etc. As such, Shravana Purnima viz Raksha Bandhan and Amarnath Yatra etc. should be celebrated on July 21 in 2005. Why are our panchangakars asking us to celebrate it on August 19 instead? Only because they treat the entire Hindu society as ignorant fools who have no idea about the criteria of any festivals! Or is it that the panchangakars do not know anything themselves but are just copying from others like blind following blind? Similarly, Janmashtami should be celebrated on the Krishna- paksha Ashtami following that Shravana Purnima i.e. on July 27 in 2005. But we will be asked to celebrate it on August 26/27. Why? For God's sake do ask your " Panditji " and let me know what he says! ***** **** **** **** hinducivilization , " sreedhar.nambiar " <sreedhar.nambiar@> wrote: > > > Shreemad Bhagavatam > > Canto 5 > > Chapters 21 to 25 > > Chapter Twenty-one The Movements of the Sun > 1. Sukadeva Gosvami said: My dear King, I have thus far described the > diameter of the universe [fifty crores of yojanas, or four billion > miles] and its general characteristics, according to the estimations of > learned scholars. > 2. As a grain of wheat is divided into two parts and one can estimate > the size of the upper part by knowing that of the lower, so, expert > geographers instruct, one can understand the measurements of the upper > part of the universe by knowing those of the lower part. The sky between > the earthly sphere and heavenly sphere is called antariksa, or outer > space.. It adjoins the top of the sphere of earth and the bottom of that > of heaven. > 3. In the midst of that region of outer space [antariksa] is the most > opulent sun, the king of all the planets that emanate heat, such as the > moon. By the influence of its radiation, the sun heats the universe and > maintains its proper order. It also gives light to help all living > entities see. While passing toward the north, toward the south or > through the equator, in accordance with the order of the Supreme > Personality of Godhead, it is said to move slowly, swiftly or > moderately. According to its movements in rising above, going beneath or > passing through the equator—and correspondingly coming in touch with > various signs of the zodiac, headed by Makara [Capricorn]--days and > nights are short, long or equal to one another. > 4. When the sun passes through Mesa [Aries] and Tula [Libra], the > durations of day and night are equal. When it passes through the five > signs headed by Vrsabha [Taurus], the duration of the days increases > [until Cancer], and then it gradually decreases by half an hour each > month, until day and night again become equal [in Libra]. > 5. When the sun passes through the five signs beginning with Vrscika > [scorpio], the duration of the days decreases [until Capricorn], and > then gradually it increases month after month, until day and night > become equal [in Aries]. > 6. Until the sun travels to the south the days grow longer, and until it > travels to the north the nights grow longer. > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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