[hc] Fwd: The spirit of Astrology--Mumbai Attacked

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HinduCalendar , "prashanthnair999" <prashanthnair999 wrote:telling 100.000 lies wont solv the problemif u keep on changing the meaning of astrology to astronomy i havnothing to sayif muhurtha is used like silamic fundamental blf i hav nothing to saysome elemnt of predictiv value is not there then why good time to startor bad time to strt shud comein ancient indian cultures ( both vedic and non vedic indus valley andnaga or bhavani cultures of india ) astrologers were astronomers ,headpreists ,scientists , and what ever knowledge in soceity available .u can change Goal post according to ur own fancyi hav nothing to saybut in future unless i directly write to u pls dont use my name ,it isnot coming under academic discussionremebr one thing u did not gain anything after ur 50 yrs astrology study+25 yrs of this efforts after ur conversion since 1984 +100 yrs ofliving except some good money in ur bank account u r getting as funds .why cant u change themind of dharmacharyas than running around after some kids .i dont know or i dont blv u will b changed so long as ur income iscontinuing frm evengelic organisationsother wise what is ur adamnce in not to accepting the truths and facts .And allur mails re affirm that u dont know even sanskrit or history or evenlife of commn man of vedic periods total rejections will not take u any whereeven ur claender vada is another foolery as u cant date events then howsure u r with ur arguemnts .i find u r simply adopting NASA calender and says this is ur calender,but showing a blind eye on wobbling of earth and procession ofequinoxes .i find indians using 7 calnders for depending on each time.which u dont know head and tail of itif u know tell me wat is sapta rishi calnder and its use ( dont say itis creation of vedic astrologers as u dont know )

 

Also i am requesting u again and again dont cross post my mails with ur answers to 1000 forums where i am not available to answer it and i am not even member also i dont hav that much time or my time is not paid by any christian groups like u to do only this work like u

prashanth Nair

HinduCalendar , "Avtar Krishen Kaul"jyotirved@ wrote:>> hinducivilization , "Avtar Krishen Kaul"> jyotirved@ wrote:>> Shri Prashanth Nairji,> Namaskar!> <But the problem here is PPL like AKK with bad intention> is debunking that concept and says he wanted to see all astro technics> in veda's as if it is astro text .And same time talk abt> muhurthas ,And he dont hav a satisfactory answer for it .why we shud> use it ,if phalita jyothisha is against hindus>>> As per the 35th Mantra of Rigveda Jyotisham and 4th manra of the> Yajurveda Jyotisham, "Like the crests on the heads of peacocks, like> the gems on he hoods of the cobras, Astronomy (Mathematics) is at the> top of the Vedanga Shastras". Both these are works of at least 14th> centry BCE and they talk of astronomy and not predictive gimmicks.>> Bhaskaracharya-II has said in 9th shloka of Madhyama Adhikara of his> Sidhanta Shiromani, "The Vedas have advised us to perform different> yajnyas. Yajnyas are to be performed in/on proper timings> (muhurtas!). Because only from this (jyotisha) shastra, we can learn> the intricacies of suitable timings (muhurtas!), that is why it> (jyotisha shastra--astronomy!) is known as the eye of the Vedas".>> Bhaskara-II was the last sidhantakara of India. Thus both the Alpha> as well as the Omega of Indigenous jyotisha shastra are> circumnavigating around muhurta, withou any references to any> predictive gimmicks. You may therefore direct your question to> Acharya Lagadha and Acharya Bhaskara-II as to how and why they could> discuss muhurtas without any references to predictive gimmicks!>> Same is the case with other sidhantas, like Brahma-Sphuta Sidhanta,> Shishyadhi-vridhidha etc. etc. and even the Surya Sidhanta! None of> them have talked about any predictive gimmicks!>> What is surprising is that on the one hand you talk of the sidhantas> and puranas and even the Vedas having Mesha etc. rashis (which the> Vedas do not have!) and you also know that all the sidhantic and> Pauranic rashis are so called sayana. But when it comes to> celebratig festivals and even muhurtas, you will go only by> what "almighty" Lahiri and Lahiriwalas have decreed!>> And if I am pointing out all these anachronisms, I have "bad> intentions"!>> Well, you cannot have the cake and eat it as well!> Dhanyavad.> A K Kaul>> hinducivilization , "prashanthnair999"> <prashanthnair999@> wrote:> >> >> >> >> > dear sir> >> > sure ,strting muhurtha become birthchart of nations ( or any event> > mundane or personal level ) and there is various tools a jyothishi> uses> > to read it ,> >> >> >> > here still no one said why in vedic period they use muhurthas if> they> > dont blv in benefic effects of planets .so it is sure they knows> abt it> > and uses for that purpose only .Other wise we must admit that our> > ancesters were some fools without any logic and follows like herds> of> > cows everything .But the problem here is PPL like AKK with bad> intention> > is debunking that concept and says he wanted to see all astro> technics> > in veda's as if it is astro text .And same time talk abt> muhurthas ,And> > he dont hav a satisfactory answer for it .why we shud use it ,if> phalita> > jyothisha is against hindus .> >> >> >> > To see if food is good or bad no one will eat whole food ,same way> one> > instance is enough for us to see wheter ancients blved in it or> not .> >> >> >> > if every one uses same line of arguemnts then we dont hav much left> for> > answering .any one can ask any questions on even what we eat those> days> > and must for giving up all food habits which we hav now and other> wise> > we r not hindus .Or some one can came up with a arguemnt that the> dress> > code shud b followed by every one ,But it was not the truth .India> has> > always diversity but unity too.Like pearls in a mala .> >> >> >> > so vedas cannot used for it as ppl of india with vast expanse of> country> > might hav used various things even has various sub cultures> etc .But all> > this need not hav reference in vedas esp full text .it is a sort of> > Kutarka than a constructiv approach ,so if u ppl r sincere pls dont> > entertain such arguemnts> >> > otherwise we need only to learn vedas for education /history> > /architecture etc> >> >> >> > The pathetic situation is some ppl who thinks they r hindu dharmic> > volunteers and r falling for the well knit conspiracy .> >> >> >> > regrds Prashanth Nair> >> >> >> >> > hinducivilization , ShankaraBharadwaj> Khandavalli> > <shankarabharadwaj@> wrote:> > >> > > They usually take independence date/time, but again that is not> > acceptable to some. Basically they look at the current positioning> > overall.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ________________________________> > > Sarvesh Tiwari sarveshtiwari@> > > hinducivilization hinducivilization > > > Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:36:43 AM> > > RE: [hc] Fwd: Re: The spirit of Astrology--"Mumbai> Attacked"> > >> > >> > > One question -- How do they make Horroscope of "India"?> > >> > > What is the "Date Of Birth" and "Place of Birth" of "India"?> > >> > > BTW, I think Lt. Col Purohit is a native of Maharashtra, not J & K.> > >> > > Regards,> >>> --- End forwarded message --->--- End forwarded message ---