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dear sanjay ji

that is why i asked him simply according to me humans are same since day one of creation ,but i dont know he changed or not (because now changed stand as b4 rishies were right and now they r wrong ) ,so he may b eating food tru diffrnt place now or both places now .as elemntary canal is same and has 2 ends .so out of logic he can ask what harm in it, eating tru other hole ?

 

do u hav answers ?? if not then u r fraud .

 

regrds prashanth Nair

 

during sethubandan bhagavan sriramchandra asked politely giv way to samudra raja but he dont yield ,then he took bow and arrows ,then here is him with folded hands ( so dear grp if u feel my language is extreme teach me a diffrnt way and how i can answer such psuedo logics which is not digestable and he is vomiting it )

, "Sanjay Sinha" <sanjaykrsinhain wrote:Hi All,May I ask Mr. Sanat, that if astrology is a fake then why he has written a book on this and why he is a member of this community. Astrology is a subject like any other subjects. It is fully scientific, based on astronomical calculations.If astrology is fake, that means that astronomy is a fake, that's means that all the planets , stars, nakshatras are fake.I also believe that there are many fake astrologers in the society, they are spoiling the society. If you are fighting against this then you are right. But if the fight is against the subject astrology than I am totally against this. Any subject is not fake.I am asking you one question, if any body has guts to answer this.When any body is sick, he/she will go to doctor (MBBS, MD etc), the doctor will ask him lots of question to find out disease and the prescribe lots of medicine, if patient is not cure then doctor is prescribed another medicine. If patient is not cured then doctor suggest him lots of test and if also not cured then he suggest him operation or left him on GOD. We accept this by saying/thinking this, that the doctor has tried a lot but what to do.The patient goes to another doctor and cycle repeats.While going to an astrologer, we go with a chart (may be real or fake), sit like dumb. We expect that the astrologer should tell all about him every thing about him/her, all about their family members, about their diseases, about community etc. Out of many predictions, if all prediction are right, and if one prediction is wrong then we straight ways say that the astrologers is fake and astrology as subject is fake.Why this happens to the subject Astrology,why not with any other subjects like Medicines there are lots of fake doctors in the society who are playing within persons life, and there is movement against them..For your information, if the subject is fake then why there are over ten millions astrology sites from USA, UK and European Countries. It is believed that USA, UK, Europeans do not believe without any scientific base. If they believe then there must be some scientific base/logic behind this.Mr. Sanat is requested to forward this message to Randi Foundations or provide id of the so called society.RegardsSanjay Sinha

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Respected Prashant ji,

 

Yes, I am fraud because I am a simple human eating thu mouth only not like you eating thru both elementary canals.

 

Please do not poke your nose, in this matter. My mail is for Mr. Sanat not for you.

 

Please let him answer. I am not in mood to fight with you, so please do reply to this mail. If you reply this mail then what to say about this.

 

RegardsSanjay SinhaPh: 09811242316email: sanjaykrsinhain sanjaykrsinhain

 

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Fwd: Astrology fake or real - Comments Sanjay Sinha

 

 

 

 

dear sanjay ji

that is why i asked him simply according to me humans are same since day one of creation ,but i dont know he changed or not (because now changed stand as b4 rishies were right and now they r wrong ) ,so he may b eating food tru diffrnt place now or both places now .as elemntary canal is same and has 2 ends .so out of logic he can ask what harm in it, eating tru other hole ?

 

do u hav answers ?? if not then u r fraud ..

 

regrds prashanth Nair

 

during sethubandan bhagavan sriramchandra asked politely giv way to samudra raja but he dont yield ,then he took bow and arrows ,then here is him with folded hands ( so dear grp if u feel my language is extreme teach me a diffrnt way and how i can answer such psuedo logics which is not digestable and he is vomiting it )

, "Sanjay Sinha" <sanjaykrsinhain wrote:Hi All,May I ask Mr. Sanat, that if astrology is a fake then why he has written a book on this and why he is a member of this community. Astrology is a subject like any other subjects. It is fully scientific, based on astronomical calculations.If astrology is fake, that means that astronomy is a fake, that's means that all the planets , stars, nakshatras are fake.I also believe that there are many fake astrologers in the society, they are spoiling the society. If you are fighting against this then you are right. But if the fight is against the subject astrology than I am totally against this. Any subject is not fake.I am asking you one question, if any body has guts to answer this.When any body is sick, he/she will go to doctor (MBBS, MD etc), the doctor will ask him lots of question to find out disease and the prescribe lots of medicine, if patient is not cure then doctor is prescribed another medicine. If patient is not cured then doctor suggest him lots of test and if also not cured then he suggest him operation or left him on GOD. We accept this by saying/thinking this, that the doctor has tried a lot but what to do.The patient goes to another doctor and cycle repeats.While going to an astrologer, we go with a chart (may be real or fake), sit like dumb. We expect that the astrologer should tell all about him every thing about him/her, all about their family members, about their diseases, about community etc. Out of many predictions, if all prediction are right, and if one prediction is wrong then we straight ways say that the astrologers is fake and astrology as subject is fake.Why this happens to the subject Astrology,why not with any other subjects like Medicines there are lots of fake doctors in the society who are playing within persons life, and there is movement against them..For your information, if the subject is fake then why there are over ten millions astrology sites from USA, UK and European Countries. It is believed that USA, UK, Europeans do not believe without any scientific base. If they believe then there must be some scientific base/logic behind this.Mr. Sanat is requested to forward this message to Randi Foundations or provide id of the so called society.RegardsSanjay Sinha

 

 

 

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dear sanjay ji

 

i am waiting for his treat to b executed ,as he already issed warning against me that he will ban me

 

so i am just waiting for it

as out of my 100 posts he cud not answer even 5 .even that was twisting logics than answering to the points ,he has some uploaded files and we shud answer that file to the flawd logic of him .Than we ask him abt his knowledge or exprnce or even right to crtisis ,and always says he is here for academic discussion and called all astrologers and students as frauds .And he wrote a book on subjuct which he dont know and sells it and not fraud ,

even i posted some reading requests why cant he help those ppl saying his sermon than attacking astrologers ??if he is true and he knows it .He has all write to divert ppl frm going to wrong path .

but wat is his awareness in astrology ,he is asking me to say which theory works than he quote some known chart and let him proov where it went wrong .or let him quote slokas and say its appliablity and show us he knows astro than simply debunking it .

 

 

regrds prashanth Nair

, "Sanjay Sinha" <sanjaykrsinhain wrote:>> Respected Prashant ji,> > Yes, I am fraud because I am a simple human eating thu mouth only not like you eating thru both elementary canals.> > Please do not poke your nose, in this matter. My mail is for Mr. Sanat not for you. > > Please let him answer. I am not in mood to fight with you, so please do reply to this mail. If you reply this mail then what to say about this. > > Regards> Sanjay Sinha> Ph: 09811242316> email: sanjaykrsinhain sanjaykrsinhain - > prashanthnair999 > ; HinduCalendar > Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:43 AM> Fwd: Astrology fake or real - Comments Sanjay Sinha> > > > > > dear sanjay ji > > that is why i asked him simply according to me humans are same since day one of creation ,but i dont know he changed or not (because now changed stand as b4 rishies were right and now they r wrong ) ,so he may b eating food tru diffrnt place now or both places now .as elemntary canal is same and has 2 ends .so out of logic he can ask what harm in it, eating tru other hole ?> > > > do u hav answers ?? if not then u r fraud .> > > > regrds prashanth Nair > > > > during sethubandan bhagavan sriramchandra asked politely giv way to samudra raja but he dont yield ,then he took bow and arrows ,then here is him with folded hands ( so dear grp if u feel my language is extreme teach me a diffrnt way and how i can answer such psuedo logics which is not digestable and he is vomiting it ) > > > , "Sanjay Sinha" sanjaykrsinhain@ wrote:> > Hi All,> > May I ask Mr. Sanat, that if astrology is a fake then why he has written a book on this and why he is a member of this community. Astrology is a subject like any other subjects. It is fully scientific, based on astronomical calculations.> > If astrology is fake, that means that astronomy is a fake, that's means that all the planets , stars, nakshatras are fake.> > I also believe that there are many fake astrologers in the society, they are spoiling the society. If you are fighting against this then you are right. But if the fight is against the subject astrology than I am totally against this. Any subject is not fake.> > I am asking you one question, if any body has guts to answer this.> > When any body is sick, he/she will go to doctor (MBBS, MD etc), the doctor will ask him lots of question to find out disease and the prescribe lots of medicine, if patient is not cure then doctor is prescribed another medicine. If patient is not cured then doctor suggest him lots of test and if also not cured then he suggest him operation or left him on GOD. We accept this by saying/thinking this, that the doctor has tried a lot but what to do.> The patient goes to another doctor and cycle repeats.> > While going to an astrologer, we go with a chart (may be real or fake), sit like dumb. We expect that the astrologer should tell all about him every thing about him/her, all about their family members, about their diseases, about community etc. Out of many predictions, if all prediction are right, and if one prediction is wrong then we straight ways say that the astrologers is fake and astrology as subject is fake.> > Why this happens to the subject Astrology,why not with any other subjects like Medicines there are lots of fake doctors in the society who are playing within persons life, and there is movement against them..> > For your information, if the subject is fake then why there are over ten millions astrology sites from USA, UK and European Countries. It is believed that USA, UK, Europeans do not believe without any scientific base. If they believe then there must be some scientific base/logic behind this.> > Mr. Sanat is requested to forward this message to Randi Foundations or provide id of the so called society.> > Regards> Sanjay Sinha> > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release 12/5/2008 7:08 PM>

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Dear Sanjay,

Namaskar,

Thanks for your msg. received through Mr. Nair. I think now you are

member of the forum hence I am replying your msg.

 

>>>>May I ask Mr. Sanat, that if astrology is a fake then why he has

written

a book on this and why he is a member of this community. <<<<<

 

I have replied this question in detail on 3-12-8 in response of query

of Sh. Deshmukh ji. In nut shell when I researched and found that

fundamental principles are based on primitive knowledge then it was

essential to bring this research to the notice of interested persons.

Hence book was published and well accepted. Secondly I am not member

of this forum but this forum is my own forum where I am regularly

inviting interested persons to have a exchange of views as to how

astrology is science and what is science (which was behind ) of

astrology.

 

>>>>>>>>Astrology is a subject like any other subjects. It is fully

scientific, based on

astronomical calculations.<<<<<<<<<<

Every knowledge is now classified under a subject either it may pick-

pocketing or robbery or myth. How it can be scientific if you (not

personally you but astrologer) continue to draw any inference from

any planetary situation. If it is science then like science you may

have explanations as to how sign, sign lord, aspect, friendship,

dasha, exalted, Rahu ketu were formulated. If you know then please

take any point for further discussion. So that we can check as to

whether any principle require some modification or not after 2500

years.

 

>>>>>>>If astrology is fake, that means that astronomy is a fake,

that's means

that all the planets , stars, nakshatras are fake.<<<<<<<

Star planets are matter and physically visible, whereas there

location and transit is worked out in astronomy hence it is science.

Remember not a single astrologer is using any Indian method for

working out the location of planets etc. and they are proudly being

imported from NASA and supplied to general public in the brand of

sages. But any way it is science and we are regularly modifying the

calculation. But drawing a inference from the transit is predictive

astrology and before categorizing it as a science we must know about

the formulation of every basic principle. After research I am saying

through my both books that initial data, information etc on which

these principles were formulated is now outdated then how principle

based on primitive information may be regarded as science or correct.

 

>>>>>>>>I also believe that there are many fake astrologers in the

society, they

are spoiling the society. If you are fighting against this then you

are

right. But if the fight is against the subject astrology than I am

totally against this. Any subject is not fake.<<<<<<<<<

If you know some fake astrologer then you may try to alert innocent

public. But I am not against astrologers because they are simply

using astrological principles without perhaps actually knowing that

these principles are totally bogus. It is like a shopkeeper, who is

simply selling the adulterated food without knowing the content of

food. Hence I am against predictive astrology.

 

>>>>>>>I am asking you one question, if any body has guts to answer

this.

 

When any body is sick, he/she will go to doctor (MBBS, MD etc), the

doctor will ask him lots of question to find out disease and the

prescribe lots of medicine, if patient is not cure then doctor is

prescribed another medicine. If patient is not cured then doctor

suggest

him lots of test and if also not cured then he suggest him operation

or

left him on GOD. We accept this by saying/thinking this, that the

doctor

has tried a lot but what to do.

The patient goes to another doctor and cycle repeats.

 

While going to an astrologer, we go with a chart (may be real or

fake),

sit like dumb. We expect that the astrologer should tell all about him

every thing about him/her, all about their family members, about their

diseases, about community etc. Out of many predictions, if all

prediction are right, and if one prediction is wrong then we straight

ways say that the astrologers is fake and astrology as subject is

fake.<<<<<<<<

 

Fake or right can only be analyzed when you disclose about the

formulation of basic principles.

 

>>>>>Why this happens to the subject Astrology,why not with any other

subjects like Medicines there are lots of fake doctors in the society

who are playing within persons life, and there is movement against

them..<<<<<<<<<

Because any astrologer is not disclosing the procedure of formulation

of principles.

 

>>>>>>For your information, if the subject is fake then why there are

over ten

millions astrology sites from USA, UK and European Countries. It is

believed that USA, UK, Europeans do not believe without any scientific

base. If they believe then there must be some scientific base/logic

behind this.<<<<<<<

 

Because It is human psychology, who wants to get more without

capacity. And crowd in front of the door of astrologer is not a sign

of correctness of astrology but it is a sign of sick society where

persons do not have self confident. And when any one requires more

then his capacity – knowledge – skill – intelligence or may have more

then his capacity – knowledge – skill – intelligence etc. then he is

bound to loose his self confident which may generate fear psychosis

and lead any one to astrologer. Hence if materialistic society number

of such astrologer is bound to increase.

 

I hope I have replied your every point.

 

Thanks

Yours truly,

Sanat

 

 

 

, " prashanthnair999 "

<prashanthnair999 wrote:

>

>

>

>

> dear sanjay ji

>

> that is why i asked him simply according to me humans are same

since day

> one of creation ,but i dont know he changed or not (because now

changed

> stand as b4 rishies were right and now they r wrong ) ,so he may b

> eating food tru diffrnt place now or both places now .as elemntary

canal

> is same and has 2 ends .so out of logic he can ask what harm in it,

> eating tru other hole ?

>

>

>

> do u hav answers ?? if not then u r fraud .

>

>

>

> regrds prashanth Nair

>

>

>

> during sethubandan bhagavan sriramchandra asked politely giv way to

> samudra raja but he dont yield ,then he took bow and arrows ,then

here

> is him with folded hands ( so dear grp if u feel my language is

extreme

> teach me a diffrnt way and how i can answer such psuedo logics

which is

> not digestable and he is vomiting it )

>

>

> , " Sanjay Sinha "

> <sanjaykrsinhain@> wrote:

>

> Hi All,

>

> May I ask Mr. Sanat, that if astrology is a fake then why he has

written

> a book on this and why he is a member of this community. Astrology

is a

> subject like any other subjects. It is fully scientific, based on

> astronomical calculations.

>

> If astrology is fake, that means that astronomy is a fake, that's

means

> that all the planets , stars, nakshatras are fake.

>

> I also believe that there are many fake astrologers in the society,

they

> are spoiling the society. If you are fighting against this then you

are

> right. But if the fight is against the subject astrology than I am

> totally against this. Any subject is not fake.

>

> I am asking you one question, if any body has guts to answer this.

>

> When any body is sick, he/she will go to doctor (MBBS, MD etc), the

> doctor will ask him lots of question to find out disease and the

> prescribe lots of medicine, if patient is not cure then doctor is

> prescribed another medicine. If patient is not cured then doctor

suggest

> him lots of test and if also not cured then he suggest him

operation or

> left him on GOD. We accept this by saying/thinking this, that the

doctor

> has tried a lot but what to do.

> The patient goes to another doctor and cycle repeats.

>

> While going to an astrologer, we go with a chart (may be real or

fake),

> sit like dumb. We expect that the astrologer should tell all about

him

> every thing about him/her, all about their family members, about

their

> diseases, about community etc. Out of many predictions, if all

> prediction are right, and if one prediction is wrong then we

straight

> ways say that the astrologers is fake and astrology as subject is

fake.

>

> Why this happens to the subject Astrology,why not with any other

> subjects like Medicines there are lots of fake doctors in the

society

> who are playing within persons life, and there is movement against

> them..

>

> For your information, if the subject is fake then why there are

over ten

> millions astrology sites from USA, UK and European Countries. It is

> believed that USA, UK, Europeans do not believe without any

scientific

> base. If they believe then there must be some scientific base/logic

> behind this.

>

> Mr. Sanat is requested to forward this message to Randi Foundations

or

> provide id of the so called society.

>

> Regards

> Sanjay Sinha

>