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hinducivilization , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

 

 

Mr.Tiwari, Siva Emporium and the bunch of fake ids of Mr.Avtar Krishen

Kaul.

 

We know what is your agenda here and on other groups. You are just

trying to malign and confuse the Indians about their rituals, customs,

and ancient teachings coming through the Rishi Munis and the Great

masters whom you have continously rubbed wrongly on your own forum,

which has only fake ids as members, as the original people like me

have

either been thrown out or left in disgust due to your anti national

activities.

 

Your system and procedure of laying a trap for members and then

engaging

them in fruitless discussions is now well known to all . You are now

trying the same with me. I answered you as not knowing that you are a

fake id. But your reply has revealed that you are one. You already

have

some knowledge about astrology and astronomy ,which is of course half

baked, and how do you think I can discuss astrology with half baked or

crack persons like you, who are paid money to sit whole day on the

Internet and rub Hindus, their customs and traditions. Forgive me but

I

am not your missionary brother .

 

Do not equate yourself with me. First come to my level of

understanding

in atrology, and then we can discuss . Apart from this if you think

that

you are better knowledgedto force me in this discussion, then I will

put

some few queries to you, which if you answer well then we can move

ahead.

 

Boss, I am not being paid any money by missionaries to sit and argue

on

non-existent fears and flaws and loopholes in astrology like you will

try to push and propogate.

 

And before you move ahead, please let us have your contact number,

address and identity please.

 

Also become a citizen of this country first, if you eat food here,

spend

Indian rupee here, breath air from here and drink water from here. An

anti-Hindu stance will get you nowhere.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

hinducivilization , Sarvesh Tiwari

<sarveshtiwari@> wrote:

>

>

> > Horoscope of Independent India is made by taking the Birth time as

14-15

> > August 1947 New delhi at midight.

>

> I know you asked me not to inquire about this further, but to an

un-erudite like me this does not make sense. Please (you or someone

else) educate me about it.

>

> How can " India " be considered born on the midnight of 14-15 August,

1947 of CE?

> How can it be considered born in New Delhi?

>

> In fact how can a kuNDalI be made of a nation? And if a kuNDalI is

made of this nation, like that of an ordinary human, will the

variables

like father's name, varNa, gotra, gaNa, nADI etc will be recorded on

it

as well? If so what are the values of these variables for " India " ?

>

> Best Regards,

> Sarvesh Tiwari

>

>

>

>

> hinducivilization@: bhaskar_jyotish@: Thu, 4 Dec 2008

04:27:04 +0000[hc] Fwd: Re: The spirit of Astrology-- " Mumbai

Attacked "

>

>

>

> Probably if You check further you may realise that he is a

KashmiriPundit.Horoscope of Independent India is made by taking the

Birth time as 14-15August 1947 New delhi at midight. ( Do not ask me

further about this, asthere are seperate surgeons for various parts of

body, so do we haveseperate branches of astrology, and this is mundane

astrology , and i amnot a mundane astrologer ).regards/Bhaskar.--- In

hinducivilization , Sarvesh Tiwarisarveshtiwari@

wrote:>>> One question -- How do they make Horroscope of " India " ?>>

What

is the " Date Of Birth " and " Place of Birth " of " India " ?>> BTW, I think

Lt. Col Purohit is a native of Maharashtra, not J & K.>> Regards,>>>>

To:

hinducivilization@: bhaskar_jyotish@: Wed, 3 Dec 200817:57:15

+0000[hc] Fwd: Re: The spirit of

Astrology-- " MumbaiAttacked " >>>>> Listen You disgraceful Indian,> There

is one Kashmiri Indian who has been involved in the Sadhvi caseShri

Purohitji in the Sadhvi case , whom I respect very much, and thereis

another Kashmiri Pundit, yourself, who instead of doing something

forthe

country like Shri Purohitji is doing, is trying to insult

thetraditions

of culture of India, the astrologers and the dates offestivals, and

the

Great Rishi Munis of India.> It is because of you people that Shri

Prithiviraj Chauhan met hisdeath, and you are doing the same. You have

no agenda, to help theIndian culture, but just want to put your bloody

Calendar withfictitious dates and change our festival dates and try to

prove yourselfsmarter than Bhaskaracharya. You bloody person who has

no

patrioticfeelings has not shown a single attempt at trying to help

thedowntrodden, but you want to trample upon your own ancestors and

achievename and fame by talking rot about them.> If it was in my

hands I

would have shot you dead long back for talkingrot about the great

Masters of India.> You third class person just get out from this forum

and dont writehere with your filthy stuff and rubbish.> Bhaskar.>>>> -

--

In hinducivilization , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " jyotirved@

wrote:>> , " AvtarKrishen

Kaul "

> jyotirved@ wrote:> > Shri Prashant Nairji,> Namaskar!> >Many thanks

indeed for giving me yet another opportunity to expose >

themethodology

of top-notch jyotishis as to how they make a fool of > evenwell

educated

and well informed people like you!> > I have gone throughthe article

titled " Mumbai Attacked---India > disgraced " of Nov. 28,2008, by Shri

K.

N. Rao in the Journal of > Astrology, regarding his socalled

astrological prediction (sic!) of > Mumbai terror attack. Thearticle

is

available at the address (as > quoted by

you)>http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=192> You

havealso quoted the same article in full in your post.> > Honestly,

itappears that you have neither assimilated the letter, > nor the

spiritof the article that you have quoted with so much of > abusive

languagefor anyone who dares ask as to why there was no >

astrologicalassessment before hand about such an earth shaking >

incident as Mumbaiterror attacks! > And once again, you have given a

proof of your lack ofdoing any real > homework but repeating exactly

like a parrot the samewords that > your " masters " have uttered! I am

sure you know that aparrot does > not understand the real meaning of

what he is " uttering " !> > I have gone through this article several

times

to glean even asingle > sentence that could be said to have hinted at

such an attackbefore > hand, and here is what the article has actually

done:> > Themain article of Nov. 28 is nothing but a long sermon as to

what > theGovt. should have done or not done or what the TV channels

were > doingand should actually have done or the opinion of some

people

> aboutIndia's un-preparedness for such an event etc. etc.! There is

>absolutely nothing even as an astrological " post-mortem " of Mumbai

>terrorist attacks---which the jyotishis usually do of such events! >

Byway of " astrological prediction " , all that the article does is >

quoteyet another article of July 31, 2008, by the same " learned

>astrologer " , which again is a postmortem of Delhi terror attacks in

>July 2008 (as usual, wise after the event!) instead of an >

astrologicalassessment, leave alone a forewarning, of any future >

attacks, muchless the latest Mumbai attacks! Thus all that the >

author

has to offerus in his article of Nov. 28 is the following > snippet

from

his ownarticle of July 31, 2008> > " And it is the antardasha of Ketu

in

theseventh house in the > horoscope of India. I reminded the students

thatin 1981 I had > written in the Vishwa Vijay Panchanga (Hindi) that

theKetu dasha in > the Indian horoscope would be dreadful in many

ways. " > >I had been using several panchangas myself, but I hardly used

Vishva->Vijaya Panchanga, as it never had anything original but just a

rehash >of who had said what, though in a changed phraseology! It was

the > onlypanchanga which was published after every other panchanga

had

> appearedin the market—--maybe to glean from other " sources " as to

> who had " predicted " what! And there are at least a thousand >

panchangas inIndia being published in different languages!> Thus, in

other words, the " learned author " has referred to some God > forsaken

article in some Godforsaken Panchang which he is supposed > to have

written as back as1981! And what he had " predicted " in that > article

of

July 31 is moreamusing than informative, much less > a " forewarning "

as

this is what ithas said, " And it is the > antardasha of Ketu in the

seventh house inthe horoscope of India. I > reminded the students that

in 1981 I hadwritten in the Vishwa Vijay > Panchanga (Hindi) that the

Ketu dasha inthe Indian horoscope would > be dreadful in many ways. "

Thus even the " post-mortem " of July > attacks in Delhi is just as

clumsy

as it canget!> > And Kethu Dasha, in Independent India's natal chart

was

from >September 11, 1982 to Sepember 11, 1989!> > Thus in spite of his

ownencomium the " learned jyotishi " has not said > in those lines

eitherthat there would be terrorist attacks > but " Kethu Dasha in

Indianhoroscope would be dreadful in many > ways " ! And Kethu Dasha was

alreadyover in 1989! What a " marvelous " > prediction! No wonder that

some " chamchas " are swooning on > such " accurate " and

" pinpoint " predictions!> > Same is the case with his article of July

29,

2008,titled Nuclear > Deal-1, to which he has referred to in his

article

ofJuly 31. There > also the author has not said anywhere that there

wouldbe a terrorist > attack, but what he has done is yet

anotherpost-mortem! Let us hear > his " predictions " in his own words,

" ......And from 4th house Mars > is aspecting Ketu in the 7th house

which makessituation very > explosive.... On 25/07/2008 explosions

happened in theBanglore and > when I came back from class then I saw

in

the news that17 blasts > happened in the Gujarat. " > > Thus these

articles by the " learned author " can be summarized as > follows:> All

the

StateGovernments as well as the Central Government should > have kept

onscanning year after year Visvha Vijaya Panchanga of > 1981, even if

" thelearned astrologer " had said just that " Kethu > dasha in

Indianhoroscope would be dreadful in many ways " and even if > Ketu

Dasha

wasover in 1989. All the governments should have used > their

IntelligenceAgencies as to what the " wise and learned > astrologer "

had

" hinted at " and should have then waited patiently for > his further

" hints " which hewould never give, as to what he had > wanted to say,

instead of what hehad said!> Well, that is after all what we do with

NOSTRADAMUSprophesies! Keep > on guessing as to what he should have

said

instead ofwhat he had > said! And as is an open secret by now,

NOSTRADAMUSPROPHESIES " come > true " only after some really earth

shaking

event hastaken place!> Thus the " learned astrologer " has advised, by

implication,that we > must have faith in our modern NOSTRADAMUS and

" Prasharas " >and " Vamadevas " and forget about our Intelligence

Agencies

and employ >jyotishis to " guide us " with their " divine wisdom " . After

all that > iswhat Varahamihira the great had suggested in his Brihat

Samhita— " A >king must have a samvatsarika to guide him " (which means

by >implication that there is no need for any spies and even armed

>forces!)> > And no wonder, you advocate that we must continue

tocelebrate our > festivals on the days " decreed " by such

" learnedastrologers " instead > of by our shastras!> Obviously, God

only

can savethe largest democracy of the world from > such jyotishis and

theirchamchas.> Dhanyavad.> A K Kaul> > ---

In , " prashanthnair999 "

><prashanthnair999@> wrote:> >> > This is answer for ur blind eyes

whodont see facts ( i ahv seen> > predictions but who will spread

pearls

b4swines ) if predicted u > bash> > it ,if happened u generalise it

But

iam also converted dont > mind ,so> > i am 100% agreeing with u so

longas i am getting money for it> > ,astrologers has no job or money

theironly aim is predict for free > for> > nations and individuals and

thenppl like u who dont know head tail > of> > anything can bash it as

it ismore easy did u do spade work > which i> > told u and tell me

what

ufind ,at least learn it in this old > age . > > long liv dollar and

euro> > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=192>

><http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=192> >

>MUMBAI ATTACKED - INDIA DISGRACED >

>[http://www.journalofastrology.com/images/tr.gif] KN > RAO 28>

>November 2008, 8:28 AM> > No single incident in the history

ofindependent India has > disgraced the> > nation as much as the

terroristattack on Bombay since the night of > 26> > November. It

continued formore than forty eight hours and the > Indian> > commandos

were stilloperating and the terrorists had not been > killed or> >

flushed out yet(6/26pm) at the time I started writing this piece.> >

> >

We werereturning from Nathdwara and reached Jaipur on our way back >

to>

>Delhi on 26 November and it was there when I opened the internet >

thatI> > read about terrorists at Bombay. Some live pictures in the

>television> > channels did show us some action pictures but we had

tojourney > back and> > it was only six hours after that we saw more

ofthe television > pictures.> > As usual, the English televison

channelswere objective crisp and> > non-speculative in their coverage

while theHindi channels had many> > stupid women anchors (the eye ball

formula)rattling off whatever> > nonsense it suited them to utter with

somesentimental and patriotic> > looking stuff with fluency.> > > >

What

wasthe news ?Again one had to fall back on the English news> >

channels

topick up some facts which were startling:> > (a) The terrorists had

setup control rooms in these hotels. What > was> > the Bombay police

doingand what has the UPA government to say in > its> > defence

because

itwas happening in a Congress ruled state and not > a BJP> > ruled

onewhich it could have blamed and patted its own back?> > b)

Ammunitionstored in these hotels used by the terrorists were > huge> >

enough towage a regular war for so many days.What was the Bombay >

police> >doing and what has the UPA government to say in its defence

because >it> > was happening in a Congress ruled state and not a BJP

ruled one >which it> > could have blamed and patted its own back.> >

c)

The Bombayunderworld helped the terrorists with full knowledge > of> >

the layoutof these hotels which commandos of Indian army did not> >

know.Thesecriminals also helped the terrorists with ammunition and >

food> > tolast for many days.> > > > A report from USA reads thus:> >

USintelligence expert says Patil is incompetent> > Aziz Haniffa

inWashington, DC November 28, 2008 11:28 IST> > Last Updated: November

28,2008 11:29 IST> > Walter Andersen, a former senior

Administrationofficial, who > headed up> > the State Department's

South

Asia Divisionof the Intelligence and> > Research Bureau has said the

Mumbai terroristattacks showed > clearly a> > failure of India's

intelligence andsecurity apparatus and also the> > utter incompetence

of

Home MinisterShivraj Patil .> > > > " You have a totally incompetent

home

minister,and why he isn't > removed> > is beyond me, " he said, " He

really doesn'tknow how to get the> > bureaucracy organised to have

some

sort ofcoordinated planning. " He> > acknowledged that in the wake of

reportsthat the terrorists had > set up> > control rooms in the two

hotelsahead of time, showed that " this > was a> > sophisticated, well

plannedset up. This is something that takes > months> > of

planning. " > >

> > Ittakes months of planning and the government of Maharastra and

of>

>India were not aware it ? Can there be a more disgraceful proof of

>the> > inability of these governments to govern? They know, these

>politicians,> > only the art of vote bank politics and cannot

likeUSA,UK and other> > European pass stringent legislation and

takeruthless action to > wipe out> > these. They will not and they

cannotbecause they have to appease > some> > sections for their votes.

Theycannot see that their policies have > only> > encouraged the

growth

ofhome grown terrorists.> > > > And read thess two reports> >

1)Meanwhile, there are reports that Colaba police have impounded >

four>

>boats allegedly used by the terrorists to reach the Mumbai coast.> >

>

>2) Thursday, Nov 27 2008> > Islamic terror group e-mailed threat

toattack Mumbai two months ago> > By Daily Mail Reporter> > Last

updatedat 10:37 AM on 27th November 2008> > An Islamic terror group

warned itwas planning a massacre in Mumbai > two> > months ago, it

emergedtoday.> > > > Combine it with what I had written in the

followingpiece.> > THE NUCLEAR DEAL 2>

><http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=171> KN >

RAO>> 31 July 2008, 12:50 AM> > " And it is the antardasha of Ketu in

theseventh house in the> > horoscope of India. I reminded the students

thatin 1981 I had > written> > in the Vishwa Vijay Panchanga (Hindi)

thatthe Ketu dasha in the > Indian> > horoscope would be dreadful in

manyways. We had Punjab terrorist in> > spreading which USA was said

to

havea big hand and if USSR had not> > passed on the information, the

GoldenTemple tragedy would have more> > disastrous than what it was.

But

itdid lead to the assassination of> > Indira Gandhi and killing of

Sikhsin Delhi and elsewhere in India. > Now> > the Ketu antardasha and

twoeclipses falling in August, both > visible and> > both affecting

theaxis of religious/communal harmony how could > India> >

remaincomplacent with unchecked growth of home grown terrorists?> > >

>

Thenuclear deal had to trigger it off. The terrorists had prepared >

very>> well as the events show. But will the television channels show

any >sense> > of moral and national responsibility? (30 July 2008)> >

>

> " Ithas been said in a report that this terrorist act has been> >

financedby Saudi Arabia and training has been given in Pakistan >

with>

> thehelp of Al Quaeda.> > > > And, without taking sides ask yourself

willyou agree with> > L.K.Advani's attack that the Manmohan Singh's is

themost> > incompetent government and was totally responsible for the

>inordinate> > growth of terrorists who can now operate freely in

India?> Terrorists can> > set up a operation room and dump enough

ammunitionfor months > inside a> > big city of India without being

detected andthen wage a battle!!> > > > India is now a disgraced

nation

with no needto seek such a > certificate> > from anyone in or outside

India from itscritics. History will > record> > what a US paper now

says

gleefully:> >> > " Attack forces India onto front lines of global war

on

terror " > > >> ( 28 Nov 2008)> > > > --- In

, " Avtar Krishen Kaul " > >

<jyotirved@>

wrote:> > >> > > Shri PrashanthNairji,> > > Namaskar!> > >> > > < Very

hard rules are prescribed by ourmasters for the persons > who> > >

practice Astrology or for those toowho want to consult an> > >

astrologer......> > >> > > In fact theInternet Astrology or what is

written in Books or> > > Magazines are thegraves of the actual cases

dealt by the> > > Astrologers that too withhalf information provided

which is in > fact> > > available to theAstrologer at the time of

consultation. Or those > are> > > the cases ofFamous persons who never

consulted an astrologer but > the> > >Astrologer wanted to ride a

chart

for his own interests....>> > >> > >>> > Judging from the criteria

that

Inder Jit Sahni (IMHO the actual >word> > > should be " Inderjit " but

then maybe some numerologist asadvised > Shri> > > Sahni to break his

name into two!)has laid down forastrologers, > it> > > is clear that

all

the jyotish forums andastrology groups and> > > jyotisha magazines and

TV jyotishis etc. etc.must call it a day > and> > > close their shops!

>

> >> > > I, however,wonder whether Shri Sahni himself is following

his>

> > own " guidelines " , since he has himself put all these guidelines >

(sic!)> >> on " Jyoishgroup " , from which you have

forwarded >that> > > post! But again, may be William Shakespeare was

right when hehad> > > said, " I would easier teach twenty people what

to

do than to >follow> > > my own advice " !> > >> > > <What exactly

astrology is allabout; To relate your surroundings> > > changes within

the Nature whichcan be calculated Mathematically > with> > > the Life

sciences.?> > > Soit is basically a Time science.>> > >> > > Great cry

and little wool! Inspite of tirllions of " Vedic> > > astrolgers "

following the " TimeScience " being around, apart from > KP-> > > walas

and Lal Kitab-walasand Jaimini-walas and Mundane-astrology> > >

experts,

etc. etc. not asingle one had predicted anything about> > > Mumbai

carnage byterrorists! For that matter, no disasters or> > > floods or

famines etc.are/were ever predicted by any jyotishi, in> > > spite of

theirquibblings about " Brihat Samhita " , which they > claim to> > > be

full ofsuch gems!> > >> > > There was, however, a comic relief on all

the TVchannels for the> > > last two days---no " Astro-uncle " or " Teen

deviyan " or " tez-tare " > > > or " aapka-bhavishya " or " aapke-tare " etc.

etc. on anyof the > channels> > > since all of them were vying with

one

another toreport the > terrorsit> > > activities " exclusively " ! After

all, theseTV channels are more> > > worried about their TRPs, and TV

jyotishis,like so many other> > > things, are only a means to that

end!>

> >Dhanyavad.> > > A K Kaul> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ---

In , " prashanthnair999 " > >

>prashanthnair999@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ---

In , " Inder Jit Sahni " > > >

><inder_jit_sahni@> wrote:> > > >> > > > What exactly astrology is

allabout; To relate your surroundings> > > changes> > > > within the

Naturewhich can be calculated Mathematically with > the> > > Life> > >

>sciences.?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > So it is basically a

Timescience.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Very hard rules are

prescribed

byour masters for the persons > who> > > > practice> > > > Astrology

orfor those too who want to consult an astrologer.> > > >> > > >> > >

>>

>> > To whom one shall teach is also mentioned.> > > >> > > >> > > >>

>

>> When one need to consult an astrologer , it is his Karmic >

activity>> > which> > > > brought to him to an astrologer.> > > >> >

> >

Think ,how many forces act at that time?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >

And

whenhe consult an astrologer , the Divine Grace , the > Karmas> > >

>negative> > > > or positive and the Strong will of the Astrologer

,indirectly > of> > > the> > > > Supreme Lord help trace the things

tothe astrologer and > consultant> > > and> > > > the> > > > person

ifdestined is to be helped , will be helped or will be> > > facing> >

>

>a> > > > cheater who will wash few of the sins of the consultant

andwill> > > add to> > > > his> > > > own negative Karmas.> > > >> > >

>> >> >> > > > So can you compare an internet reading with a

realAstrological> > > > Experience.> > > > Not at All.> > > >> > > >>

>

> >>> > > In fact the Internet Astrology or what is written in Books

or>

> >Magazines> > > > are> > > > the graves of the actual cases dealt by

theAstrologers that too> > > with> > > > half> > > > information

providedwhich is in fact available to the > Astrologer> > > at the> >

>

> timeof consultation. Or those are the cases of Famous persons >

who> >

>never> > > > consulted an astrologer but the Astrologer wanted to

ride

a> chart> > > for> > > > his> > > > own interests.> > > >> > > >

Theseare posted by those who sell themselves for fame or > money .> >

>

>> >> > Then there are others who run from this group to another to

find> >> the> > > > answer> > > > of different astrologers, these are

beggarsmoving under the > Mask of> > > > need> > > > and are answered

by

suchastrologers either out of proud or> > > innocence.> > > > These

personsdo not match the minimum requirements and norms > that> > >

how>

> > >to> > > > pose a question to an astrologer. Money is not always

a>

> >consideration ,> > > > but> > > > a person must take other pains to

helphimself that his > questions> > > is> > > > addressed properly.>

> >

>>> > >> > > >> > > > Never ask in a group; never answer in a group to

thepersonal> > > issues of> > > > others; a learned astrologer shall

neveranswer to the > consultants> > > in> > > > group. A student of

Astrologymay try this by private answering > to> > > the> > > >

persons

asking inthe group . The persons whose sub lords are > Moon> > > or>

> >

>Mercury stars will never have faith on any astrologer and will >

move>

>> > from> > > > this group to another .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >

Donot believe in one minute astrology, any astrologer to check >

some> >

>> combination may ask some questions but this is in real >

astrology,>

>> > nothing> > > > can change your destiny, forget that purchasing

Shoesor buying> > > > something> > > > else will brought good luck or

badluck. Instead these are > tricks to> > > > find if> > > > the

particularplanet had acted or not.> > > >> > > > I had seen these in

abundance butwho failed miserably in > predicting> > > > future.> > >

>>

> > > Anastrologer now NO more from Jodhpur will give you your Date >

of> > >Birth> > > > and> > > > time but everything else he predicted

go

wrong ,he did not give> > > this> > > > even to his son.> > > >> > >

>>

> > >>> > > When an Astrologer Predict to a Consultant , the acting

forces I>> > had> > > > explained above.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >

But

whatwhen a Student wish to know ? His 9th house operates, > 9this> > >

>Destiny> > > > and 9th is Dharma.> > > >> > > > Destny is expenditure

ofKarmas it is expenditure of 10th house > but> > > > Dharma> > > >

isindependent identity an identity which shows the holding > nature> >

>of> > > > the> > > > individual, it is again through the Guru , which

isagain an> > > independent> > > > identity, the 10th for Dharma and

Guruare your collection of> > > deeds,> > > > see> > > > how

beautifully

the9th and 10th are Collection and expenditure > to> > > each> > > >

otherthe 9th give strength through Satwoguna to the Rajoguni> > >

Lagna

..> >> >> > > >> > > >> > > > He will be addressed as per his own

intentions, one's own> > > submission> > > > to> > > > the almighty

will

produce ateacher for him. According to his > 9th> > > house.> > > >>

> >

> Sohere it is only a learning experience and it is not the same >

as> >

>was> > > > the> > > > case when the person actually consulted

anAstrologer.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > If he cannot gain , it is

hisown fault not of others , all> > > teachers> > > > are> > > >

evolutionof the Almighty, he who understands it never > frustrate,> >

>

>because> > > > frustration is , that you don't believe in almighty

theSupreme> > > Lord.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Also being an

Astrologerif one cannot differentiate with the > time> > > of> > > >

consultationand time of learning then he is a great Idiot in > the> >

>

> science> >> > of Astrology and such person shall not be answered by

a

wise > man.>> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I will narrate two cases for

the

students ofAstrology out of> > > answered> > > > on> > > >

23.11.2008 .>

> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > A woman of 65 years of Age consulting at

30.12.N 75.00.E> appeared> > > > before> > > > me with no birth chart

at

11.26 AM .> >> >> > > > She said that she was recommended by name by a

villageraround > 50> > > KMs> > > > from> > > > here who got a son on

the Dateas was predicted by me.> > > >> > > > I asked her a no. from 1

to 249and she gave me 65 No.> > > >> > > > The Saturn Antardasha was

runningin Moon Mahadsha.> > > >> > > > As per No. chart Jupiter was

exact in7th Cusp, Rahu too had> > > shifted in> > > > Cusp> > > >

chart

in 7th .For Vedic Astrologers shift the Lagna to 26.33> > > degrees>

> >

>Gemini> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Now look as the qualification of

thewoman as an consultant, > she had> > > > taken> > > > pains to

travelthrough Busses for 40 Kms and then around 10 > Km's> > > >

through> > >> Rikshas , and is eager to pay the consultation charges,

in

such > a> >> > situation> > > > , even if one do not pay and had come

for rescuethe Astrologer > must> > > > answer> > > > .> > > >> > > >

She

did nottell me anything except that she is much in grief.> > > >> > >

>

Lookingat Saturn in Venus star I 1st confirmed that you bought > a> >

>

>Buffalo> > > > from August 2007 to October 2007.> > > >> > > > And

thisBuffalo was in trouble or can be loss after 21 > September.> > >

>>

> >> Now see , Can I ask this question to my Consultant at Delhi or> >

>Bombay?> > > >> > > > No not at all.> > > >> > > > She confirmed

thatshe purchased one which was worth 70 thousand> > > and it> > > >

died> >> > in October.> > > >> > > > Rahu in the 7h Cusp and 1st

Saturn

inVenus star and Venus in > 6th> > > Cusp.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >

Howmany things could be said now ? Look at my narration.> > > >> > > >

Thehouse is progressing well since Moon Mahadasha ; Jupiter > Venus> >

>in> > > > 4rth> > > > from Moon other three malefic in 3rd from

Moon.But she is not> > > happy> > > > mentally because of the respect

andcare she expects from her> > > husband> > > > and> > > > Sons.> > >

>> >> > Husband had a rise in Sun Mahadasha , may be in politics , but

>from> > > > Moon> > > > Dasha only moving in proud of previous

successwasting his time > with> > > > others> > > > and not caring

about

herand even beat her and had done so in > Rahu> > > > antra.> > > >>

> >

>>> > >> > > > She confirmed that her husband was elected Village> >

>Sarpanch/Headman and> > > > remained So for Sun Mahadsha upto 2003,

andother things I told > too> > > are> > > > correct.> > > >> > > >>

> >

>>> > > Sun in 11th from 7th and Jupiter in own house close to 7th

cusp>

>> shows> > > > her> > > > husband selfish behave, Its being in Sun

Starand Sun in 5th > Cusp> > > shows> > > > Political success.> > >

>> >

>>> > > >> > > > IIt also speaks so many other things which after

hearingand > after> > > > knowing> > > > the solution she returned

backblessing.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 2nd Case I am giving for

others tocalculate.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > This was a couple at

11.55 AM on23.11.2008 at the same place.> > > >> > > > The Huband gave

me hishoroscope Date 26.11.1960 time 19.58 > Hours> > > IST> > > >

at> >

> >Jaito 30.28.N 74.53.E> > > >> > > > To confirm time I only matched

thepersonality with Sub lord > Sun in> > > > Saturn> > > > Star

occupant

of5th Cusp.> > > >> > > > That he is a man of Ego , but introvert lazy

,doing something> > > technical> > > > but> > > > had a revenue income

ora workshop, all linking to 8th house.> > > >> > > > He confirmed

that

heis a owner of City Cable network and thus > earn> > > > through> > >

>its revenue .> > > >> > > > Everything else was told by me and

confirmedby him.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I am posting this case ,

what willyou say to the consultant at> > > this> > > > time.> > > >>

> >

> WithBest Wishes,> > > >> > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > >> > > >> > >

>> >

> >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

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