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dear 273 astrologers or scientists or both

 

pls read it and i invite ur bashing on this mails ,let us do it

 

prashanth .

This is question posted in one astro -forum

Hello friends,I am requesting a quick reading if possible and your precious timein analysing a request for proposal that Ive had in the past fewmonths. I will try to underline as concisely as I can the detailswith my own input so that members may not feel that I am asking fora free reading, but would rather help me assess and provide someinput so as to help me in my final decision.The girls date of brith are19 October 198220:17mumbairising lagna is tarusMy detials are6 August 198012:04 ammumbairising langna is aries.According to the varanais kutas, the match does not fair well simplybecause all the points dont match. On the other hand the planetrycombinations I feel fit well in both our charts. Take from indvidualplanets, the fit seems to be good. The girl has chandra mangala yogain her 7th house in scropio making her quite a passionate individualbut due to the placement of mars in hisown house and venus being notafflicted she seems to possess morals and dignity (I have been touchwith her over the course of a few months and she has not given meany bad impression since I can fairly sense and undestand peoplewell)The second house ruler in her case is mercury which is exhalted inthe D9 chart and venus while debilated in both places goes neechabhanga yoga and also is in the same sign in both d9 and rashistrengthing the planet.I have looked at things from the KAS viewpoint and have had mixedthoughts, my sub period Im running is jupiter and Maha dasa is alsothat of jupiter. Jupiter in my chart in no way represents 12th lordfrom house B or there off considering house B to be the 7th housenor am I finding a exteremly bad link in terms of me gettingmarried.I am sure there are many other factors out there I can think of butwould appreciate any help from members out here who could see ananalyse this situation from their own studies and experiences.Marriage being an important decision should be carried out with duediligence. I must admit confusion on my part because of many thingsand hence requesting a sincere help from your end if possible.Best WishesAmit

 

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RE: A few days to make a decision regarding a potential marriage prospect. Not sure!

 

 

 

 

Dear Amit,

 

Your chart has been discussed w.r.t Marriage by Ramesh ji and a few senior KAS Jyotish have spent their time studying your chart from Job and Marital view point.

 

/message/13770

 

Ramesh ji has clearly told you about Ju antra in Ju MD might give you marriage. This analysis was done on 9th Jan 2007 over 1.75 years back.

 

The least you could do was to acknowledge Ramesh ji's prediction and give feedback on your job to Ramesh ji and Manu ji and marital matters since members on this list had taken their time of the day and have spent it on your chart selflessly.

 

Laws about chart matching are there in lessons.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

His reply

Re: A few days to make a decision regarding a potential marriage prospect. Not sure!

 

Dear Ash,I believe we often fall back in the same loop of reasoning. The onlyreason I have never responded to the previous dicussions was becausenothing has really hit the mark thus far and rather responding in anegative I believe keeping quite is the best policy. As I have alwaysfelt astrology gives us a set of probabilities and at times they donot unfold irrespective of the system we follow. Though having a keeninterest in the science myself I do time and again like to assess thesenerio as thoughts and times change.In brief,I am working in the same job and same position that I was when thelast analysis was made.Secondly in terms of marriage I have been having proposals since 2006where as I have gotten to know various families for marriage howevernothing has materialized thus far. From the looks of it, I do not feelthat the present prospect would materialize either simply because ofconstraints at my end, but wanted to seek advice on the matter.I hope that answers and clarifies the position I have been. The onlychange I would say since the past has been a slight increase in mysalary which is an incentive program given by our firm to allemployees who work.I have expressed my appreciation in the past to everyone who has takenthe time to assess my chart. However the reason I constantly keepasking is since nothing seems to happen as stated.regardsAmitThis is moderaters reply

 

RE: Re: A few days to make a decision regarding a potential marriage prospect. Not sure!

 

 

 

 

Dear Amit,

 

Bottom line, you did not give feedback to Manu ji and Ramesh ji. It was only when you needed a reading you sent your mail to KAS list and other lists asking for advise.

 

Secondly, you have asked the same question regarding your marriage, now why you haven't got married in 2006 as it was predicted by Ramesh ji.

 

Ramesh ji has clearly predicted the time frame, in a Practical way. So wait and see. The time frame he has given is not over.

 

In the last line you have said that "nothing happens as stated", then why are u not married as yet? Ramesh ji has clearly given that Mars can't give you marriage and this is despite your claims that you have been getting proposals since 2006 then why are u not married?

 

So please, get real.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

Dear Amit,

 

Your intension and sneakyness is yet again brought to front.

 

 

I quote

 

"There is no question about being sneaky. I have nothing against you, I am sure had the question been directed to you through your website with a fee of $300+, I am quite certain you would entertain my question in depth inspite of me being sneaky or whatever you would like to name me as."

 

 

So again this shows that you were looking for a FREE reading on this list.

 

So now, let us summarize this.

 

First you claimed that prediction give by KAS on job was not correct, then I proved that u lied and were being sly about it. Secondly, when you had an issue you came back to this list looking for more free reading. Again I was vigilant stopped your attempt to fool list members as I had noticed that you had put the same question on other list as well.

 

When I pointed that out to you, u started getting personal and then tried to prove that prediction about u in the past were incorrect. That is because again u were being sneaky and sly and wanted to get by, but again u were caught in the act of trying to become a free loader because you yourself who claim to be know so many systems are failing again and again in predicting about your own chart.

 

On the contrary, on this list using KAS, Ramesh ji said clearly that you cant marry in Mars antra and u will in Ju/Ju and he gave time frame. Now suddenly u developed amnesia and did not acknowledge that to Ramesh ji that u did not get married in Mars antra. On the contrary u tried to be double sneaky and sly and tried to show that KAS does not work by changing the topic to Job prediction.

 

Then again, u failed, and I again brought up all the messages regarding the prediction that were of your job given on this list. You lied and claimed that someone predicted that things would become better, but again your lies were caught and u were shamed, because those predictions were not given using KAS. So your attempt to malign KAS failed yet again.

 

Then, instead of doing the "walk of shame" you start to become personal as now u don't have any more things to lie about, at each instant u were confronted by me and in a methodical way proved your intensions.

 

Then u started to talk about not accepting or challenging the rules that did not work. So then I ask u Mr. Amit, why are u even putting your queries to this list.

 

If you think KAS does not work then why are u putting your queries here? Yet again, it is clear that u want to waste the precious time of the list members in a sneaky and sly manner.

 

Yet again you are caught.

 

 

I think now you will be clear on one of the law of KAS, which I had asked u to study in the mail regarding the transit of a malefic over 0 points. In your case, Sa is transiting over your 5th house where Mars has 0 points.

 

Mars is your 1st and 8th lord and is in 6th house with 5 bindus as Karak for these house as B, it is causing all these issues i.e. 1st, 6th and 11th house matters.

 

I think by these exchanges this law will become clear and the power of the laws of KAS will set in stone for you as you are experiencing this right in front of all members and this will be a proof which u will not need to acknowledge.

 

 

Regarding the laws that u have claimed does not work regarding 11th vs 12th house, then again you have proved that law correct, because u said u are not happy or satisfied with your job and income. I had asked u to study the power for the past few antra and also the current one.

 

You still haven't taken the pains. In Your ju antra 11th, 6th power is less and 11th is less than 12th. 10th is more than 11th. What is the meaning of all this? Also what about the current transit of Sa over 0 points and that too your 5th house which is Karak sthan for 10th............ ......... ......... .

 

Before broadcasting and judging the laws of KAS given by Guru ji, first become capable of understanding the basics lessons. For that you must have a clean heart and must keep your slate clean. Then with humbleness approach Guru ji Krushnaji and ask for forgiveness for stating all nonsense about the laws of KAS.

 

Otherwise u can take it that your chart is special and no laws of KAS will work. Better you use other systems, and that will give u perfect answer.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

 

 

 

Re: Career problems please help would be much appreciated!!

 

Dear Amit,Do this. Cast your chart using KAS2006 program, and tell me where isSa transitting, check the SAV and see.Secondly, tell me the power of the antra's the current one and thepast 2 and check their power for 6th and 10th.I think you will get your answer.Next, is to see when things will improve w.r.t satisfaction, so forthat check the next dasha of ju/ju. Keep in mind that MD will bechanging, you can read up on that from the archives, next check thepower in the WS for that planet and its status.It will all be clear.Give it a try,Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca/message/19109

 

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ShriPrashanth Nairji,

Namaskar!

<pls read it and i invite ur bashing on this mails ,let us do it>

 

There is no questio of " bashing " a non-existent " principle " ! I have

already made it very clear that we do not find any references to

Patri-Melapak in any of the astrological works --- right from

Sphujidwaja's yavana Jatakam to the latest " concoction " viz. Brihat

Parashara Hora Shastram! Since the real Vedic seers were no astro-

buffs, naturally, we do not find any reference to sucha mlaignancy

as " patri-melapak " in any of the Smritis---leave alone the Vedas!

As such, we cannot bash a non-existent " ghost " !

Regards,

AKK

 

 

, " prashanthnair999 "

<prashanthnair999 wrote:

>

>

>

>

> dear 273 astrologers or scientists or both

>

>

>

> pls read it and i invite ur bashing on this mails ,let us do it

>

>

>

> prashanth .

>

> This is question posted in one astro -forum

>

> Hello friends,

> I am requesting a quick reading if possible and your precious time

> in analysing a request for proposal that Ive had in the past few

> months. I will try to underline as concisely as I can the details

> with my own input so that members may not feel that I am asking for

> a free reading, but would rather help me assess and provide some

> input so as to help me in my final decision.

>

> The girls date of brith are

> 19 October 1982

> 20:17

> mumbai

> rising lagna is tarus

>

> My detials are

> 6 August 1980

> 12:04 am

> mumbai

> rising langna is aries.

>

>

> According to the varanais kutas, the match does not fair well simply

> because all the points dont match. On the other hand the planetry

> combinations I feel fit well in both our charts. Take from indvidual

> planets, the fit seems to be good. The girl has chandra mangala yoga

> in her 7th house in scropio making her quite a passionate individual

> but due to the placement of mars in hisown house and venus being not

> afflicted she seems to possess morals and dignity (I have been touch

> with her over the course of a few months and she has not given me

> any bad impression since I can fairly sense and undestand people

> well)

>

> The second house ruler in her case is mercury which is exhalted in

> the D9 chart and venus while debilated in both places goes neecha

> bhanga yoga and also is in the same sign in both d9 and rashi

> strengthing the planet.

>

> I have looked at things from the KAS viewpoint and have had mixed

> thoughts, my sub period Im running is jupiter and Maha dasa is also

> that of jupiter. Jupiter in my chart in no way represents 12th lord

> from house B or there off considering house B to be the 7th house

> nor am I finding a exteremly bad link in terms of me getting

> married.

>

> I am sure there are many other factors out there I can think of but

> would appreciate any help from members out here who could see an

> analyse this situation from their own studies and experiences.

> Marriage being an important decision should be carried out with due

> diligence. I must admit confusion on my part because of many things

> and hence requesting a sincere help from your end if possible.

>

> Best Wishes

> Amit

>

>

>

> This is the reply given by moderater

>

>

> RE: A few days to make a decision

regarding a

> potential marriage prospect. Not sure!

>

>

>

> Dear Amit,

>

>

>

> Your chart has been discussed w.r.t Marriage by Ramesh ji and a few

> senior KAS Jyotish have spent their time studying your chart from

Job

> and Marital view point.

>

>

>

> /message/13770

>

</message/13770>

>

>

>

> Ramesh ji has clearly told you about Ju antra in Ju MD might give

you

> marriage. This analysis was done on 9th Jan 2007 over 1.75 years

back.

>

>

>

> The least you could do was to acknowledge Ramesh ji's prediction and

> give feedback on your job to Ramesh ji and Manu ji and marital

matters

> since members on this list had taken their time of the day and have

> spent it on your chart selflessly.

>

>

>

> Laws about chart matching are there in lessons.

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

>

>

>

> His reply

> Re: A few days to make a decision regarding a potential marriage

> prospect. Not sure!

>

>

> Dear Ash,

> I believe we often fall back in the same loop of reasoning. The only

> reason I have never responded to the previous dicussions was because

> nothing has really hit the mark thus far and rather responding in a

> negative I believe keeping quite is the best policy. As I have

always

> felt astrology gives us a set of probabilities and at times they do

> not unfold irrespective of the system we follow. Though having a

keen

> interest in the science myself I do time and again like to assess

the

> senerio as thoughts and times change.

>

> In brief,

> I am working in the same job and same position that I was when the

> last analysis was made.

>

> Secondly in terms of marriage I have been having proposals since

2006

> where as I have gotten to know various families for marriage however

> nothing has materialized thus far. From the looks of it, I do not

feel

> that the present prospect would materialize either simply because of

> constraints at my end, but wanted to seek advice on the matter.

>

> I hope that answers and clarifies the position I have been. The only

> change I would say since the past has been a slight increase in my

> salary which is an incentive program given by our firm to all

> employees who work.

>

> I have expressed my appreciation in the past to everyone who has

taken

> the time to assess my chart. However the reason I constantly keep

> asking is since nothing seems to happen as stated.

>

> regards

> Amit

>

> This is moderaters reply

>

>

>

> RE: Re: A few days to make a decision

> regarding a potential marriage prospect. Not sure!

>

>

>

> Dear Amit,

>

>

>

> Bottom line, you did not give feedback to Manu ji and Ramesh ji.

It was

> only when you needed a reading you sent your mail to KAS list and

other

> lists asking for advise.

>

>

>

> Secondly, you have asked the same question regarding your marriage,

now

> why you haven't got married in 2006 as it was predicted by Ramesh

> ji.

>

>

>

> Ramesh ji has clearly predicted the time frame, in a Practical

way. So

> wait and see. The time frame he has given is not over.

>

>

>

> In the last line you have said that " nothing happens as stated " ,

> then why are u not married as yet? Ramesh ji has clearly given that

> Mars can't give you marriage and this is despite your claims that

> you have been getting proposals since 2006 then why are u not

married?

>

>

>

> So please, get real.

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

>

>

>

> Dear Amit,

>

>

>

> Your intension and sneakyness is yet again brought to front.

>

>

>

>

>

> I quote

>

>

>

> " There is no question about being sneaky. I have nothing against

> you,

> I am sure had the question been directed to you through your website

> with a fee of $300+, I am quite certain you would entertain my

> question in depth inspite of me being sneaky or whatever you would

> like to name me as. "

>

>

>

>

>

> So again this shows that you were looking for a FREE reading on this

> list.

>

>

>

> So now, let us summarize this.

>

>

>

> First you claimed that prediction give by KAS on job was not

correct,

> then I proved that u lied and were being sly about it. Secondly,

when

> you had an issue you came back to this list looking for more free

> reading. Again I was vigilant stopped your attempt to fool list

members

> as I had noticed that you had put the same question on other list as

> well.

>

>

>

> When I pointed that out to you, u started getting personal and then

> tried to prove that prediction about u in the past were incorrect.

That

> is because again u were being sneaky and sly and wanted to get by,

but

> again u were caught in the act of trying to become a free loader

because

> you yourself who claim to be know so many systems are failing again

and

> again in predicting about your own chart.

>

>

>

> On the contrary, on this list using KAS, Ramesh ji said clearly

that you

> cant marry in Mars antra and u will in Ju/Ju and he gave time

frame.

> Now suddenly u developed amnesia and did not acknowledge that to

Ramesh

> ji that u did not get married in Mars antra. On the contrary u

tried to

> be double sneaky and sly and tried to show that KAS does not work by

> changing the topic to Job prediction.

>

>

>

> Then again, u failed, and I again brought up all the messages

regarding

> the prediction that were of your job given on this list. You lied

and

> claimed that someone predicted that things would become better, but

> again your lies were caught and u were shamed, because those

predictions

> were not given using KAS. So your attempt to malign KAS failed yet

> again.

>

>

>

> Then, instead of doing the " walk of shame " you start to become

> personal as now u don't have any more things to lie about, at each

> instant u were confronted by me and in a methodical way proved your

> intensions.

>

>

>

> Then u started to talk about not accepting or challenging the rules

that

> did not work. So then I ask u Mr. Amit, why are u even putting your

> queries to this list.

>

>

>

> If you think KAS does not work then why are u putting your queries

here?

> Yet again, it is clear that u want to waste the precious time of the

> list members in a sneaky and sly manner.

>

>

>

> Yet again you are caught.

>

>

>

>

>

> I think now you will be clear on one of the law of KAS, which I had

> asked u to study in the mail regarding the transit of a malefic

over 0

> points. In your case, Sa is transiting over your 5th house where

Mars

> has 0 points.

>

>

>

> Mars is your 1st and 8th lord and is in 6th house with 5 bindus as

Karak

> for these house as B, it is causing all these issues i.e. 1st, 6th

and

> 11th house matters.

>

>

>

> I think by these exchanges this law will become clear and the power

of

> the laws of KAS will set in stone for you as you are experiencing

this

> right in front of all members and this will be a proof which u will

not

> need to acknowledge.

>

>

>

>

>

> Regarding the laws that u have claimed does not work regarding 11th

vs

> 12th house, then again you have proved that law correct, because u

said

> u are not happy or satisfied with your job and income. I had asked

u to

> study the power for the past few antra and also the current one.

>

>

>

> You still haven't taken the pains. In Your ju antra 11th, 6th power

> is less and 11th is less than 12th. 10th is more than 11th. What

is the

> meaning of all this? Also what about the current transit of Sa

over 0

> points and that too your 5th house which is Karak sthan for

> 10th............ ......... ......... .

>

>

>

> Before broadcasting and judging the laws of KAS given by Guru ji,

first

> become capable of understanding the basics lessons. For that you

must

> have a clean heart and must keep your slate clean. Then with

humbleness

> approach Guru ji Krushnaji and ask for forgiveness for stating all

> nonsense about the laws of KAS.

>

>

>

> Otherwise u can take it that your chart is special and no laws of

KAS

> will work. Better you use other systems, and that will give u

perfect

> answer.

>

>

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> Re: Career problems please help would be much appreciated!!

>

>

> Dear Amit,

> Do this. Cast your chart using KAS2006 program, and tell me where is

> Sa transitting, check the SAV and see.

> Secondly, tell me the power of the antra's the current one and the

> past 2 and check their power for 6th and 10th.

> I think you will get your answer.

>

> Next, is to see when things will improve w.r.t satisfaction, so for

> that check the next dasha of ju/ju. Keep in mind that MD will be

> changing, you can read up on that from the archives, next check the

> power in the WS for that planet and its status.

> It will all be clear.

>

> Give it a try,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

>

>

> /message/19109

>

</message/19109>

>

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dear respected kaul ji

pranams ,

 

i used to get same answers frm pentacostal christians /born again xians /evangelists ,they come and ask u questions as they r in trouble then after happening they will say it is devils job and so that we cannot blv it even we will b out of our sects .it is non existant etc like parroting church sermon ( u know i belong to where christainity is first born in world )even jesus dont made christians ( even they also offered me money if i can bash vedas )

so i used to tell them it is like ppl who is questioning the existense of electricity even after getting electrocuted .They will simply dont blv it .And i wish them good only .

so i can quote or blv what i see and percieve and happening in my life which is repeating without failure .( to know if the food is tasty no one will eat full food )

Buti wish u all the best and u pls dont giv up this after all how long

 

 

regrds prashanth

 

ps -no one is ready to accept challenges --i used to tell them i will giv u a chart which will not match with ur daughter ( frm the selected ppl by u after inviting tru newpapers for wider choices ) .or giv u a bad muhurtha for starting a house or giv u a plan for a house which is worst ,no one accepted yet .

if any takers u can also giv me ppl ( but wants in large numbers and we shud advitise the event )

also answer me on my question on vedic seer bashing by sanat ji other wise i also has to blv u r siding it and it is ur opinion too.here is messge No -

/message/870

 

, "Avtar Krishen Kaul" <jyotirved wrote:>> ShriPrashanth Nairji,> Namaskar!> <pls read it and i invite ur bashing on this mails ,let us do it> > > There is no questio of "bashing" a non-existent "principle"! I have > already made it very clear that we do not find any references to > Patri-Melapak in any of the astrological works --- right from > Sphujidwaja's yavana Jatakam to the latest "concoction" viz. Brihat > Parashara Hora Shastram! Since the real Vedic seers were no astro-> buffs, naturally, we do not find any reference to sucha mlaignancy > as "patri-melapak" in any of the Smritis---leave alone the Vedas!> As such, we cannot bash a non-existent "ghost"!> Regards,> AKK> > > , "prashanthnair999" > prashanthnair999@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > dear 273 astrologers or scientists or both> > > > > > > > pls read it and i invite ur bashing on this mails ,let us do it> > > > > > > > prashanth .> > > > This is question posted in one astro -forum> > > > Hello friends,> > I am requesting a quick reading if possible and your precious time> > in analysing a request for proposal that Ive had in the past few> > months. I will try to underline as concisely as I can the details> > with my own input so that members may not feel that I am asking for> > a free reading, but would rather help me assess and provide some> > input so as to help me in my final decision.> > > > The girls date of brith are> > 19 October 1982> > 20:17> > mumbai> > rising lagna is tarus> > > > My detials are> > 6 August 1980> > 12:04 am> > mumbai> > rising langna is aries.> > > > > > According to the varanais kutas, the match does not fair well simply> > because all the points dont match. On the other hand the planetry> > combinations I feel fit well in both our charts. Take from indvidual> > planets, the fit seems to be good. The girl has chandra mangala yoga> > in her 7th house in scropio making her quite a passionate individual> > but due to the placement of mars in hisown house and venus being not> > afflicted she seems to possess morals and dignity (I have been touch> > with her over the course of a few months and she has not given me> > any bad impression since I can fairly sense and undestand people> > well)> > > > The second house ruler in her case is mercury which is exhalted in> > the D9 chart and venus while debilated in both places goes neecha> > bhanga yoga and also is in the same sign in both d9 and rashi> > strengthing the planet.> > > > I have looked at things from the KAS viewpoint and have had mixed> > thoughts, my sub period Im running is jupiter and Maha dasa is also> > that of jupiter. Jupiter in my chart in no way represents 12th lord> > from house B or there off considering house B to be the 7th house> > nor am I finding a exteremly bad link in terms of me getting> > married.> > > > I am sure there are many other factors out there I can think of but> > would appreciate any help from members out here who could see an> > analyse this situation from their own studies and experiences.> > Marriage being an important decision should be carried out with due> > diligence. I must admit confusion on my part because of many things> > and hence requesting a sincere help from your end if possible.> > > > Best Wishes> > Amit> > > > > > > > This is the reply given by moderater> > > > > > RE: A few days to make a decision > regarding a> > potential marriage prospect. Not sure!> > > > > > > > Dear Amit,> > > > > > > > Your chart has been discussed w.r.t Marriage by Ramesh ji and a few> > senior KAS Jyotish have spent their time studying your chart from > Job> > and Marital view point.> > > > > > > > /message/13770> > > </message/13770>> > > > > > > > Ramesh ji has clearly told you about Ju antra in Ju MD might give > you> > marriage. This analysis was done on 9th Jan 2007 over 1.75 years > back.> > > > > > > > The least you could do was to acknowledge Ramesh ji's prediction and> > give feedback on your job to Ramesh ji and Manu ji and marital > matters> > since members on this list had taken their time of the day and have> > spent it on your chart selflessly.> > > > > > > > Laws about chart matching are there in lessons.> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > > > > > His reply> > Re: A few days to make a decision regarding a potential marriage> > prospect. Not sure!> > > > > > Dear Ash,> > I believe we often fall back in the same loop of reasoning. The only> > reason I have never responded to the previous dicussions was because> > nothing has really hit the mark thus far and rather responding in a> > negative I believe keeping quite is the best policy. As I have > always> > felt astrology gives us a set of probabilities and at times they do> > not unfold irrespective of the system we follow. Though having a > keen> > interest in the science myself I do time and again like to assess > the> > senerio as thoughts and times change.> > > > In brief,> > I am working in the same job and same position that I was when the> > last analysis was made.> > > > Secondly in terms of marriage I have been having proposals since > 2006> > where as I have gotten to know various families for marriage however> > nothing has materialized thus far. From the looks of it, I do not > feel> > that the present prospect would materialize either simply because of> > constraints at my end, but wanted to seek advice on the matter.> > > > I hope that answers and clarifies the position I have been. The only> > change I would say since the past has been a slight increase in my> > salary which is an incentive program given by our firm to all> > employees who work.> > > > I have expressed my appreciation in the past to everyone who has > taken> > the time to assess my chart. However the reason I constantly keep> > asking is since nothing seems to happen as stated.> > > > regards> > Amit> > > > This is moderaters reply> > > > > > > > RE: Re: A few days to make a decision> > regarding a potential marriage prospect. Not sure!> > > > > > > > Dear Amit,> > > > > > > > Bottom line, you did not give feedback to Manu ji and Ramesh ji. > It was> > only when you needed a reading you sent your mail to KAS list and > other> > lists asking for advise.> > > > > > > > Secondly, you have asked the same question regarding your marriage, > now> > why you haven't got married in 2006 as it was predicted by Ramesh> > ji.> > > > > > > > Ramesh ji has clearly predicted the time frame, in a Practical > way. So> > wait and see. The time frame he has given is not over.> > > > > > > > In the last line you have said that "nothing happens as stated",> > then why are u not married as yet? Ramesh ji has clearly given that> > Mars can't give you marriage and this is despite your claims that> > you have been getting proposals since 2006 then why are u not > married?> > > > > > > > So please, get real.> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > > > > > Dear Amit,> > > > > > > > Your intension and sneakyness is yet again brought to front.> > > > > > > > > > > > I quote> > > > > > > > "There is no question about being sneaky. I have nothing against> > you,> > I am sure had the question been directed to you through your website> > with a fee of $300+, I am quite certain you would entertain my> > question in depth inspite of me being sneaky or whatever you would> > like to name me as."> > > > > > > > > > > > So again this shows that you were looking for a FREE reading on this> > list.> > > > > > > > So now, let us summarize this.> > > > > > > > First you claimed that prediction give by KAS on job was not > correct,> > then I proved that u lied and were being sly about it. Secondly, > when> > you had an issue you came back to this list looking for more free> > reading. Again I was vigilant stopped your attempt to fool list > members> > as I had noticed that you had put the same question on other list as> > well.> > > > > > > > When I pointed that out to you, u started getting personal and then> > tried to prove that prediction about u in the past were incorrect. > That> > is because again u were being sneaky and sly and wanted to get by, > but> > again u were caught in the act of trying to become a free loader > because> > you yourself who claim to be know so many systems are failing again > and> > again in predicting about your own chart.> > > > > > > > On the contrary, on this list using KAS, Ramesh ji said clearly > that you> > cant marry in Mars antra and u will in Ju/Ju and he gave time > frame. > > Now suddenly u developed amnesia and did not acknowledge that to > Ramesh> > ji that u did not get married in Mars antra. On the contrary u > tried to> > be double sneaky and sly and tried to show that KAS does not work by> > changing the topic to Job prediction.> > > > > > > > Then again, u failed, and I again brought up all the messages > regarding> > the prediction that were of your job given on this list. You lied > and> > claimed that someone predicted that things would become better, but> > again your lies were caught and u were shamed, because those > predictions> > were not given using KAS. So your attempt to malign KAS failed yet> > again.> > > > > > > > Then, instead of doing the "walk of shame" you start to become> > personal as now u don't have any more things to lie about, at each> > instant u were confronted by me and in a methodical way proved your> > intensions.> > > > > > > > Then u started to talk about not accepting or challenging the rules > that> > did not work. So then I ask u Mr. Amit, why are u even putting your> > queries to this list.> > > > > > > > If you think KAS does not work then why are u putting your queries > here?> > Yet again, it is clear that u want to waste the precious time of the> > list members in a sneaky and sly manner.> > > > > > > > Yet again you are caught.> > > > > > > > > > > > I think now you will be clear on one of the law of KAS, which I had> > asked u to study in the mail regarding the transit of a malefic > over 0> > points. In your case, Sa is transiting over your 5th house where > Mars> > has 0 points.> > > > > > > > Mars is your 1st and 8th lord and is in 6th house with 5 bindus as > Karak> > for these house as B, it is causing all these issues i.e. 1st, 6th > and> > 11th house matters.> > > > > > > > I think by these exchanges this law will become clear and the power > of> > the laws of KAS will set in stone for you as you are experiencing > this> > right in front of all members and this will be a proof which u will > not> > need to acknowledge.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the laws that u have claimed does not work regarding 11th > vs> > 12th house, then again you have proved that law correct, because u > said> > u are not happy or satisfied with your job and income. I had asked > u to> > study the power for the past few antra and also the current one.> > > > > > > > You still haven't taken the pains. In Your ju antra 11th, 6th power> > is less and 11th is less than 12th. 10th is more than 11th. What > is the> > meaning of all this? Also what about the current transit of Sa > over 0> > points and that too your 5th house which is Karak sthan for> > 10th............ ......... ......... .> > > > > > > > Before broadcasting and judging the laws of KAS given by Guru ji, > first> > become capable of understanding the basics lessons. For that you > must> > have a clean heart and must keep your slate clean. Then with > humbleness> > approach Guru ji Krushnaji and ask for forgiveness for stating all> > nonsense about the laws of KAS.> > > > > > > > Otherwise u can take it that your chart is special and no laws of > KAS> > will work. Better you use other systems, and that will give u > perfect> > answer.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > Re: Career problems please help would be much appreciated!!> > > > > > Dear Amit,> > Do this. Cast your chart using KAS2006 program, and tell me where is> > Sa transitting, check the SAV and see.> > Secondly, tell me the power of the antra's the current one and the> > past 2 and check their power for 6th and 10th.> > I think you will get your answer.> > > > Next, is to see when things will improve w.r.t satisfaction, so for> > that check the next dasha of ju/ju. Keep in mind that MD will be> > changing, you can read up on that from the archives, next check the> > power in the WS for that planet and its status.> > It will all be clear.> > > > Give it a try,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > > > /message/19109> > > </message/19109>> >>

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Shri Prashanth Nairji,

Namaskar!

I am not intellectually that advanced a creature as to fathom the

meaning of your " sutras " that may be actually worth their weight in

gold!

Would you please tell me in a very plain and simple manner as to what

you want to communicate to the members.

Dhanyavad.

AKK

 

PS

A personal request. Kindly just address me as Avtarji or Kaulji or

even AKK. I feel very uneasy when I am addressed as " respected "

since I consider myself a student, who is as intelligent or diligent

as anybody else is.

AKK

, " prashanthnair999 "

<prashanthnair999 wrote:

>

>

> dear respected kaul ji

>

> pranams ,

>

>

>

> i used to get same answers frm pentacostal christians /born again

xians

> /evangelists ,they come and ask u questions as they r in trouble

then

> after happening they will say it is devils job and so that we

cannot blv

> it even we will b out of our sects .it is non existant etc like

> parroting church sermon ( u know i belong to where christainity is

first

> born in world )even jesus dont made christians ( even they also

offered

> me money if i can bash vedas )

>

> so i used to tell them it is like ppl who is questioning the

existense

> of electricity even after getting electrocuted .They will simply

dont

> blv it .And i wish them good only .

>

> so i can quote or blv what i see and percieve and happening in my

life

> which is repeating without failure .( to know if the food is tasty

no

> one will eat full food )

>

> Buti wish u all the best and u pls dont giv up this after all how

long

>

>

>

>

>

> regrds prashanth

>

>

>

> ps -no one is ready to accept challenges --i used to tell them i

will

> giv u a chart which will not match with ur daughter ( frm the

selected

> ppl by u after inviting tru newpapers for wider choices ) .or giv u

a

> bad muhurtha for starting a house or giv u a plan for a house which

is

> worst ,no one accepted yet .

>

> if any takers u can also giv me ppl ( but wants in large numbers

and we

> shud advitise the event )

>

> also answer me on my question on vedic seer bashing by sanat ji

other

> wise i also has to blv u r siding it and it is ur opinion too.here

is

> messge No -

>

> /message/870

> </message/870>

>

>

>

>

> , " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

> <jyotirved@> wrote:

> >

> > ShriPrashanth Nairji,

> > Namaskar!

> > <pls read it and i invite ur bashing on this mails ,let us do it>

> >

> > There is no questio of " bashing " a non-existent " principle " ! I

have

> > already made it very clear that we do not find any references to

> > Patri-Melapak in any of the astrological works --- right from

> > Sphujidwaja's yavana Jatakam to the latest " concoction " viz.

Brihat

> > Parashara Hora Shastram! Since the real Vedic seers were no astro-

> > buffs, naturally, we do not find any reference to sucha mlaignancy

> > as " patri-melapak " in any of the Smritis---leave alone the Vedas!

> > As such, we cannot bash a non-existent " ghost " !

> > Regards,

> > AKK

> >

> >

> > , " prashanthnair999 "

> > prashanthnair999@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > dear 273 astrologers or scientists or both

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > pls read it and i invite ur bashing on this mails ,let us do it

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > prashanth .

> > >

> > > This is question posted in one astro -forum

> > >

> > > Hello friends,

> > > I am requesting a quick reading if possible and your precious

time

> > > in analysing a request for proposal that Ive had in the past few

> > > months. I will try to underline as concisely as I can the

details

> > > with my own input so that members may not feel that I am asking

for

> > > a free reading, but would rather help me assess and provide some

> > > input so as to help me in my final decision.

> > >

> > > The girls date of brith are

> > > 19 October 1982

> > > 20:17

> > > mumbai

> > > rising lagna is tarus

> > >

> > > My detials are

> > > 6 August 1980

> > > 12:04 am

> > > mumbai

> > > rising langna is aries.

> > >

> > >

> > > According to the varanais kutas, the match does not fair well

simply

> > > because all the points dont match. On the other hand the

planetry

> > > combinations I feel fit well in both our charts. Take from

indvidual

> > > planets, the fit seems to be good. The girl has chandra mangala

yoga

> > > in her 7th house in scropio making her quite a passionate

individual

> > > but due to the placement of mars in hisown house and venus

being not

> > > afflicted she seems to possess morals and dignity (I have been

touch

> > > with her over the course of a few months and she has not given

me

> > > any bad impression since I can fairly sense and undestand people

> > > well)

> > >

> > > The second house ruler in her case is mercury which is exhalted

in

> > > the D9 chart and venus while debilated in both places goes

neecha

> > > bhanga yoga and also is in the same sign in both d9 and rashi

> > > strengthing the planet.

> > >

> > > I have looked at things from the KAS viewpoint and have had

mixed

> > > thoughts, my sub period Im running is jupiter and Maha dasa is

also

> > > that of jupiter. Jupiter in my chart in no way represents 12th

lord

> > > from house B or there off considering house B to be the 7th

house

> > > nor am I finding a exteremly bad link in terms of me getting

> > > married.

> > >

> > > I am sure there are many other factors out there I can think of

but

> > > would appreciate any help from members out here who could see an

> > > analyse this situation from their own studies and experiences.

> > > Marriage being an important decision should be carried out with

due

> > > diligence. I must admit confusion on my part because of many

things

> > > and hence requesting a sincere help from your end if possible.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Amit

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This is the reply given by moderater

> > >

> > >

> > > RE: A few days to make a decision

> > regarding a

> > > potential marriage prospect. Not sure!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Amit,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Your chart has been discussed w.r.t Marriage by Ramesh ji and a

few

> > > senior KAS Jyotish have spent their time studying your chart

from

> > Job

> > > and Marital view point.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

/message/13770

> > >

> >

</message/13770>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ramesh ji has clearly told you about Ju antra in Ju MD might

give

> > you

> > > marriage. This analysis was done on 9th Jan 2007 over 1.75 years

> > back.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The least you could do was to acknowledge Ramesh ji's

prediction and

> > > give feedback on your job to Ramesh ji and Manu ji and marital

> > matters

> > > since members on this list had taken their time of the day and

have

> > > spent it on your chart selflessly.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Laws about chart matching are there in lessons.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > His reply

> > > Re: A few days to make a decision regarding a potential marriage

> > > prospect. Not sure!

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > > I believe we often fall back in the same loop of reasoning. The

only

> > > reason I have never responded to the previous dicussions was

because

> > > nothing has really hit the mark thus far and rather responding

in a

> > > negative I believe keeping quite is the best policy. As I have

> > always

> > > felt astrology gives us a set of probabilities and at times

they do

> > > not unfold irrespective of the system we follow. Though having a

> > keen

> > > interest in the science myself I do time and again like to

assess

> > the

> > > senerio as thoughts and times change.

> > >

> > > In brief,

> > > I am working in the same job and same position that I was when

the

> > > last analysis was made.

> > >

> > > Secondly in terms of marriage I have been having proposals since

> > 2006

> > > where as I have gotten to know various families for marriage

however

> > > nothing has materialized thus far. From the looks of it, I do

not

> > feel

> > > that the present prospect would materialize either simply

because of

> > > constraints at my end, but wanted to seek advice on the matter.

> > >

> > > I hope that answers and clarifies the position I have been. The

only

> > > change I would say since the past has been a slight increase in

my

> > > salary which is an incentive program given by our firm to all

> > > employees who work.

> > >

> > > I have expressed my appreciation in the past to everyone who has

> > taken

> > > the time to assess my chart. However the reason I constantly

keep

> > > asking is since nothing seems to happen as stated.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Amit

> > >

> > > This is moderaters reply

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > RE: Re: A few days to make a decision

> > > regarding a potential marriage prospect. Not sure!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Amit,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Bottom line, you did not give feedback to Manu ji and Ramesh ji.

> > It was

> > > only when you needed a reading you sent your mail to KAS list

and

> > other

> > > lists asking for advise.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Secondly, you have asked the same question regarding your

marriage,

> > now

> > > why you haven't got married in 2006 as it was predicted by

Ramesh

> > > ji.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ramesh ji has clearly predicted the time frame, in a Practical

> > way. So

> > > wait and see. The time frame he has given is not over.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In the last line you have said that " nothing happens as stated " ,

> > > then why are u not married as yet? Ramesh ji has clearly given

that

> > > Mars can't give you marriage and this is despite your claims

that

> > > you have been getting proposals since 2006 then why are u not

> > married?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > So please, get real.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Amit,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Your intension and sneakyness is yet again brought to front.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I quote

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " There is no question about being sneaky. I have nothing against

> > > you,

> > > I am sure had the question been directed to you through your

website

> > > with a fee of $300+, I am quite certain you would entertain my

> > > question in depth inspite of me being sneaky or whatever you

would

> > > like to name me as. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > So again this shows that you were looking for a FREE reading on

this

> > > list.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > So now, let us summarize this.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > First you claimed that prediction give by KAS on job was not

> > correct,

> > > then I proved that u lied and were being sly about it. Secondly,

> > when

> > > you had an issue you came back to this list looking for more

free

> > > reading. Again I was vigilant stopped your attempt to fool list

> > members

> > > as I had noticed that you had put the same question on other

list as

> > > well.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > When I pointed that out to you, u started getting personal and

then

> > > tried to prove that prediction about u in the past were

incorrect.

> > That

> > > is because again u were being sneaky and sly and wanted to get

by,

> > but

> > > again u were caught in the act of trying to become a free loader

> > because

> > > you yourself who claim to be know so many systems are failing

again

> > and

> > > again in predicting about your own chart.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On the contrary, on this list using KAS, Ramesh ji said clearly

> > that you

> > > cant marry in Mars antra and u will in Ju/Ju and he gave time

> > frame.

> > > Now suddenly u developed amnesia and did not acknowledge that to

> > Ramesh

> > > ji that u did not get married in Mars antra. On the contrary u

> > tried to

> > > be double sneaky and sly and tried to show that KAS does not

work by

> > > changing the topic to Job prediction.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Then again, u failed, and I again brought up all the messages

> > regarding

> > > the prediction that were of your job given on this list. You

lied

> > and

> > > claimed that someone predicted that things would become better,

but

> > > again your lies were caught and u were shamed, because those

> > predictions

> > > were not given using KAS. So your attempt to malign KAS failed

yet

> > > again.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Then, instead of doing the " walk of shame " you start to become

> > > personal as now u don't have any more things to lie about, at

each

> > > instant u were confronted by me and in a methodical way proved

your

> > > intensions.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Then u started to talk about not accepting or challenging the

rules

> > that

> > > did not work. So then I ask u Mr. Amit, why are u even putting

your

> > > queries to this list.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > If you think KAS does not work then why are u putting your

queries

> > here?

> > > Yet again, it is clear that u want to waste the precious time

of the

> > > list members in a sneaky and sly manner.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yet again you are caught.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I think now you will be clear on one of the law of KAS, which I

had

> > > asked u to study in the mail regarding the transit of a malefic

> > over 0

> > > points. In your case, Sa is transiting over your 5th house where

> > Mars

> > > has 0 points.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mars is your 1st and 8th lord and is in 6th house with 5 bindus

as

> > Karak

> > > for these house as B, it is causing all these issues i.e. 1st,

6th

> > and

> > > 11th house matters.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I think by these exchanges this law will become clear and the

power

> > of

> > > the laws of KAS will set in stone for you as you are

experiencing

> > this

> > > right in front of all members and this will be a proof which u

will

> > not

> > > need to acknowledge.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regarding the laws that u have claimed does not work regarding

11th

> > vs

> > > 12th house, then again you have proved that law correct,

because u

> > said

> > > u are not happy or satisfied with your job and income. I had

asked

> > u to

> > > study the power for the past few antra and also the current one.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You still haven't taken the pains. In Your ju antra 11th, 6th

power

> > > is less and 11th is less than 12th. 10th is more than 11th. What

> > is the

> > > meaning of all this? Also what about the current transit of Sa

> > over 0

> > > points and that too your 5th house which is Karak sthan for

> > > 10th............ ......... ......... .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Before broadcasting and judging the laws of KAS given by Guru

ji,

> > first

> > > become capable of understanding the basics lessons. For that you

> > must

> > > have a clean heart and must keep your slate clean. Then with

> > humbleness

> > > approach Guru ji Krushnaji and ask for forgiveness for stating

all

> > > nonsense about the laws of KAS.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Otherwise u can take it that your chart is special and no laws

of

> > KAS

> > > will work. Better you use other systems, and that will give u

> > perfect

> > > answer.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > Re: Career problems please help would be much appreciated!!

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Amit,

> > > Do this. Cast your chart using KAS2006 program, and tell me

where is

> > > Sa transitting, check the SAV and see.

> > > Secondly, tell me the power of the antra's the current one and

the

> > > past 2 and check their power for 6th and 10th.

> > > I think you will get your answer.

> > >

> > > Next, is to see when things will improve w.r.t satisfaction, so

for

> > > that check the next dasha of ju/ju. Keep in mind that MD will be

> > > changing, you can read up on that from the archives, next check

the

> > > power in the WS for that planet and its status.

> > > It will all be clear.

> > >

> > > Give it a try,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> >

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> > >

> >

>

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