Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Here is an interesting quote from Albert Einstein: " It is better to believe than to disbelieve;in so doing, you bring everything in the realm of possibility " Any takers ? Regds. VBD --- prashanthnair999 <prashanthnair999 wrote: > > , > " Sreenadh " > <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Udupa ji, > May be your definition of science and its > understanding is outdated. > > //However, it is hard to digest when you say that > science also is a > belief and not truth. That will depend on how you > define the word > " science " . // > Even the greatest scientists tike Einstein, Hokings > etc agree upon > the fact that Science is NOT truth, but only an > effort to understand > reality in a better way; only an effort to reach > near truth; a search > for truth. As I have mentioned in my previous mail > - Science derives > and improves upon THEOREMS. But the theorems exist > only in our mind. It > is our visualization of reality. No theorems are > truth itself. They are > just a method to understand or picture reality. > They exist only in our > mind. No theorem is truth - but only effort to reach > near truth. I will > explain with an example - > Earlier scientists believed that Light is composed > of particles - This > was not truth, but only a theorem. Later it was > proved that this > concept is not correct. > Some other scientists believed and suggested that > Light is composed of > waves - This was not truth, but only a theorem. > Later it was proved that > this concept is not correct. > The scientists suggested that light is an electro > magnetic radiation - > This was not truth, but only a theorem. > Elector-Magnetic radiation was > in itself a concept, and the new theorem on light > based upon it. > Then Einstein stated that light is composed of > photons - that is a > theorem, and cannot be considered as truth. Just > like Diffraction, just > like Interference, just like Photo electric effect > if a new phenomenon > was discovered that forces us to rethink and modify > the current theory, > then definitely it will get modified - in an effort > to reach more near > to reality; in an effort to picture reality of light > in a better way. > Thus science is a search for truth, taking the help > of - > * Facts observed by human beings (this is a > subjective experience) or > observed by machines (here the interpretation is > subjective) > * Concepts created by human beings (they exists only > in the mind of > human beings and does not have any physical > existence) > * Theorems imagined by human beings (they are based > on concepts and > has existence only in human mind) > Thus science is a belief system (recently becoming > almost a religion) > with its own concepts, theorems and view point. It > is NOT truth, but > instead, just like many other knowledge branches it > is a search for > truth; a methodology to approach truth. > Hope this helps. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > , > Guru ahudupa@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > I appreciate your answer. I also agree with you > that astrology is > > special branch of knowledge like medicine systems, > psychology etc. > > However, it is hard to digest when you say that > science also is a > belief > > and *not truth*. That will depend on how you > define the word > " science " . If > > you define science " as repeated experiments under > identical conditions > give > > repeatable results " , then science can not be > termed as a mere belief. > But in > > today's day to day language so many things are > being referred to as > science > > that one may come to a conclusion that science a > also only a belief. > My view > > is that science in true meaning can not be > compared with astrology. > > In fact, I think that we should not have science > fixation, not > > everything needs to be science. There are many > things in life which > are > > useful like art, music, which are not science. > > Some people say astrology is a " divine science " . > Do you think there is > > something like that? Is it " divine " ?Is it not a > fact that the Is it > logic? > > Or is it just postulates? Or is it intuition? > > Once again i thank you. > > Regards, > > Udupa > > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Sreenadh sreesog@ > wrote: > > > > > Dear Udupa ji, > > > //> From where did you get 1800 parts of > Zodiac?// > > > The zodiac is composed of 12 Signs having 30 > degree each. Each > > > degree having 60 min each. > > > Now what is the importance of 1800? > > > * A sign is made up of 30 x 60 = 1800 min. > > > * The zodiac is made up of 1800 parts having 12 > min each. (But I > never > > > came across a division giving importance to > parts having 12 min > each)! i.e. > > > 12 min. x 1800 = 21600 min = 360 degree. > > > I don't know what the author (Sumit Bajaj) > intended to say. Any way, > I > > > have three quotes, one from Sphujidhwaja hora, > one from Skanda Hora, > one > > > from Deva Kerala (Chandra Kala nadi) which > states the importance of > 1800 > > > division of a SIGN (not zodiac), with the > meaning - > > > *A SIGN of 30 degree can be divided into 1800 > parts, where again > each > > > planet posited in each different 1800 parts > gives different results. > * > > > Rest of the questions also belong to Sumit ji. > Hope that he may > answer. > > > If you ask me, my answers would be - > > > //is that the reason why astrology is a science? > // > > > No. It is wrong to consider astrology as a > science. Astrology is NOT > a > > > science, but a holistic knowledge branch, that > can reflect truth. > Just like > > > Ayurveda, Psychology, Homeopathy etc it is > another holistic path for > > > understanding the world around us. (Please note > that Scientific > approach > > > and holistic approach are two methods used by > human beings with > feeble > > > caliber to understand the world around them, in > the very limited way > > > possible - they are the only paths or > methodologies at our disposal) > > > //To say astrology is a science is just a > belief.// > > > Even Science is a belief, and NOT truth. Science > itself is only an > > > attempt get near to truth. So as the holistic > knowledge branch known > as > > > astrology. Both Science and Astrology are just > belief systems - bulk > of > > > theorems regarding concepts and facts. Any > theorem has got existence > only > > > in human mind. In this way science is also just > a subjective > === message truncated === Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger./win/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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