Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 FYI & reference only.On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 11:17 PM, dipika blr <blr.aspirant wrote: By " Congress-led coalition " does he include congress supporting the " third front " from outside.Interesting he does not mention any numbers. Have the Psephologists placed their bets too will be interesting to watch who wins and by what logic in this battle b/w science & pseudo-science.with metta,On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved wrote: hinducivilization , viji <viji123 wrote: This is posted as a reference. Let us come back after the elections and see if this is true Obama seers give Congress astro vote for LS http://www.asianage.com/presentation/leftnavigation/news/top- story/obama-seers-give-congress-astro-vote-for-ls-.aspx By Our Special Correspondent Chennai Nov. 8: A famous Kerala astrologer who had predicted the Obama juggernaut is now insisting that a Congress-led coalition will win the Indian Parliament elections expected early next year. " The stars are favouring Sonia Gandhi but the time is not good for Advani. As for Mayawati, I find her prospects very poor and she is nowhere near Race Course Road, " says Parappanangadi Unni-krishna Panicker, whose Obama predictions were eagerly lapped up by several Malayalam papers much before the Illinois senator handsomely won the White House race. " When I look into India’s horoscope, sadly it shows a lot of political uncertainty. Unprincipled alliances and manoeuvres will dominate our politics. In the midst of all this, I see the Congress emerging as the winner, " Panicker told this newspaper. His noted clients include former Tamil Nadu chief minister Jayalalithaa, former Sri Lanka President Chandrika Kumaratunga and former Sri Lanka Prime Minister Ranil Wickrem-esinghe. His fans in his native Malappuram insist that even Condoleezza Rice consults him. It’s not usual to find high-profile astrologers agreeing with one another, but in this prediction of a good show by the Congress in the Lok Sabha polls Panicker has the support of his " rivals " , Dr Attukal Radhakrishnan of Trivandrum and Chennai-based Lankan astro-consultant K.K. Theventhra Rajh. " The movement of Jupiter between December 2008 and November 2009 is favouring the Congress party. The poll will be held early 2009 and that will help the Congress since 2 is its lucky number (the numbers in 2009 add up to two). Manmohan Singh could be the Prime Minister for some time. Advani’s stars do not show him as PM material, " predicts Rajh. According to Radhakrishnan, the BJP is undergoing Kandaka Sani (the worst manifestation of Saturn) and will face unprecedented crises till September 2009, by which time the Parliament elections would have been lost. " Though the Congress too is facing the Saturn effect, it is only Ezharai Sani (Seven-and-a-half-years Saturn), starting late 2009 till 2016, which will not impact the poll prospects early next year, " says Radhakrishnan, who provides " celestial guidance " to most Kerala politicians, including Congress strongman K. Karunakaran, and almost all the top Malayalam movie stars. Warning that Kandaka Sani is a " terrible thing " , Radhakrishnan says US President-elect Barack Obama too is going through this phase " and even faces serious attempts on life " . But should he weather it till September 2009, " he will be the best American President in history " . Panicker explains why. " I find Obama’s horoscope to be extraordinarily brilliant and marked by rare qualities, such as Raja Yogam, Adhi Yogam, Sasa Yogam and Nipuna Yogam. It’s very rare to find them combining in a single horoscope like this. But the next 16 months will be critical for him and, if he goes through that period, Obama will rule the US for eight years and be adored across the world. " Support ekalindia.org " One Sponsor, One Dollar a Day, One School --- Valueadded, affordable education for India's poorest. Help them. And you Help India. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 dipika ji Namaskar who bothers if it come true or not ? Our mission is fixed .So let us strt right now itself our actions .Why wait for results to come out ? our aim is to bash astrology than finding is it is working or science in its own way ( means has replicable prooven technics or results ) . 1)if any astrologers predicted ,bash it and say it is fraud and against science. {Even big scientists are astrologers but working in even space agencies ( ur wordings who ever even try to learn or enquisiv to find astro secrets are astrologers and hence frauds ) but we shud not bothers it .Even if we r not approved scientists nor credited with any inventions but again we dont care .we r not in any society of scientists still we r more scietific than others ,other wise why some scientists we hav with us who failed in their field is also with us .see it .The qualification for testing others shud b our ignorence in the field .} 2) if prediction come true we can still say many had failed and this is only one accidental prediction prooved .we hav given supporting evidence or not we r not bothered . 3 ) if failed it is proof of astrology is fraud than may b the astrologer is wrong or gone wrong ( as we r not bothered to see it than bashing ). 4) if no one predicted ask why no astrolger has courage to predict ?( if they hav no time or inclination for it it is not our head ache ,even wat they acheive is also we r not bothered ,if no one pays them and they hav a family to support is we r not bothered ,after all who cares for humanity ). 5) just ask any thing and trouble them to make them a clown in frnd of world because they study some more than we ppl and spend their life for it .which itself is big crime . 6) we r quality testers and ISO 9000 certificate givers ,so they r at our mercy .( in Manorajyam we not kings we r Emperors ) 7) After this we shud concentrate on budha ,mahaveera and vivekanda also as they will also not pass our test .yes burden of proof is on their shoulders .Let every one proov it .If any one comes forward lets calls them frauds .Then one by one all scriptures and all cultural legacy .( Now we quote of them because it is our convenience which we will b discarding it after our aim is achieved .) if all those hindu frauds called rishis ,munies ,thinkers or even acharyas given us astrology /astronomy /mathematics and many science and giv us present science but we shud call those earliersciences as pseudo sciences ,same way if our father who taught us every thing and dont know neo sciences he is fraud .who bothers what happend b4 ? Even some thing which we dont know Now is proven later true we r not bothered .( we dont care even already prooven things then who cares which can b prooved later ) we r not even caring nativ america cultures has influence of vedic symbols nor in greece nor in europe nor in russia .)Rather we shud say it is proof of we imported every thing . Even if they win we will not accept it and counter it with same old jargons .This shud b applicable to any one who dare to come forward to question us . If this same physical science is stumbling block in frnt of us we will bash it too .because it also has some theorems which changes frm situation to situtation and if it cannot proov formation theories it is not our head ache . How oxygen formed ( aah ,it is not our area ) ? we shud follow a stalinist model that is all ,cut feet to the size of shoes . Indian judiciary says even if 1000 criminals walks out free one innocent shud not b punished ,but our motto is diffrnt , No innocents we will spare .We will not allow any search or reserch in the name of astrology .Bibical theology can b a cource in western universities but did we supports this fraud myth called astrology in indian varsities .( ha ha .pure wasting of public money and spreading an anda viswas ) . so let mov and start right now . regrds prashanth PS-came across the text of a speech given by Lord Macaulay in the House of Commons on February 2, 1835: "I have traveled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief. Such wealth I have seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such caliber, that I do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the very backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage, and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own, they will lose their self-esteem, their native self-culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation." , "dipika blr" <blr.aspirant wrote:>> FYI & reference only.> > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 11:17 PM, dipika blr blr.aspirant wrote:> > > By "Congress-led coalition" does he include congress supporting the "third> > front" from outside.> >> > Interesting he does not mention any numbers. Have the Psephologists placed> > their bets too > >> > will be interesting to watch who wins and by what logic in this battle b/w> > science & pseudo-science.> >> > with metta,> >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Avtar Krishen Kaul jyotirvedwrote:> >> >> hinducivilization <hinducivilization%40>,> >> viji viji123@ wrote:> >>> >> This is posted as a reference. Let us come back after the elections> >> and see if this is true> >>> >> Obama seers give Congress astro vote for LS> >>> >> http://www.asianage.com/presentation/leftnavigation/news/top-> >> story/obama-seers-give-congress-astro-vote-for-ls-.aspx> >>> >> By Our Special Correspondent> >>> >> Chennai> >>> >> Nov. 8: A famous Kerala astrologer who had predicted the Obama> >> juggernaut is now insisting that a Congress-led coalition will win> >> the Indian Parliament elections expected early next year.> >>> >> "The stars are favouring Sonia Gandhi but the time is not good for> >> Advani. As for Mayawati, I find her prospects very poor and she is> >> nowhere near Race Course Road," says Parappanangadi Unni-krishna> >> Panicker, whose Obama predictions were eagerly lapped up by several> >> Malayalam papers much before the Illinois senator handsomely won the> >> White House race.> >>> >> "When I look into India’s horoscope, sadly it shows a lot of> >> political uncertainty. Unprincipled alliances and manoeuvres will> >> dominate our politics. In the midst of all this, I see the Congress> >> emerging as the winner," Panicker told this newspaper. His noted> >> clients include former Tamil Nadu chief minister Jayalalithaa, former> >> Sri Lanka President Chandrika Kumaratunga and former Sri Lanka Prime> >> Minister Ranil Wickrem-esinghe. His fans in his native Malappuram> >> insist that even Condoleezza Rice consults him.> >>> >> It’s not usual to find high-profile astrologers agreeing with one> >> another, but in this prediction of a good show by the Congress in the> >> Lok Sabha polls Panicker has the support of his "rivals", Dr Attukal> >> Radhakrishnan of Trivandrum and Chennai-based Lankan astro-consultant> >> K.K. Theventhra Rajh.> >>> >> "The movement of Jupiter between December 2008 and November 2009 is> >> favouring the Congress party. The poll will be held early 2009 and> >> that will help the Congress since 2 is its lucky number (the numbers> >> in 2009 add up to two). Manmohan Singh could be the Prime Minister> >> for some time. Advani’s stars do not show him as PM material,"> >> predicts Rajh.> >>> >> According to Radhakrishnan, the BJP is undergoing Kandaka Sani (the> >> worst manifestation of Saturn) and will face unprecedented crises> >> till September 2009, by which time the Parliament elections would> >> have been lost. "Though the Congress too is facing the Saturn effect,> >> it is only Ezharai Sani (Seven-and-a-half-years Saturn), starting> >> late 2009 till 2016, which will not impact the poll prospects early> >> next year," says Radhakrishnan, who provides "celestial guidance" to> >> most Kerala politicians, including Congress strongman K. Karunakaran,> >> and almost all the top Malayalam movie stars.> >>> >> Warning that Kandaka Sani is a "terrible thing", Radhakrishnan says> >> US President-elect Barack Obama too is going through this phase "and> >> even faces serious attempts on life". But should he weather it till> >> September 2009, "he will be the best American President in history".> >>> >> Panicker explains why. "I find Obama’s horoscope to be> >> extraordinarily brilliant and marked by rare qualities, such as Raja> >> Yogam, Adhi Yogam, Sasa Yogam and Nipuna Yogam. It’s very rare to> >> find them combining in a single horoscope like this. But the next 16> >> months will be critical for him and, if he goes through that period,> >> Obama will rule the US for eight years and be adored across the> >> world."> >>> >> Support ekalindia.org> >> "One Sponsor, One Dollar a Day, One School --- Valueadded, affordable> >> education for India's poorest. Help them. And you Help India.> >>> >> --- End forwarded message ---> >>> >> > >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 , " prashanthnair999 " <prashanthnair999 wrote: dipika ji Namaskar who bothers if it come true or not ? Our mission is fixed .So let us strt right now itself our actions .Why wait for results to come out ? our aim is to bash astrology than finding is it is working or science in its own way ( means has replicable prooven technics or results ) . 1)if any astrologers predicted ,bash it and say it is fraud and against science. {Even big scientists are astrologers but working in even space agencies ( ur wordings who ever even try to learn or enquisiv to find astro secrets are astrologers and hence frauds ) but we shud not bothers it ..Even if we r not approved scientists nor credited with any inventions but again we dont care .we r not in any society of scientists still we r more scietific than others ,other wise why some scientists we hav with us who failed in their field is also with us .see it .The qualification for testing others shud b our ignorence in the field .} 2) if prediction come true we can still say many had failed and this is only one accidental prediction prooved .we hav given supporting evidence or not we r not bothered . 3 ) if failed it is proof of astrology is fraud than may b the astrologer is wrong or gone wrong ( as we r not bothered to see it than bashing ). 4) if no one predicted ask why no astrolger has courage to predict ?( if they hav no time or inclination for it it is not our head ache ,even wat they acheive is also we r not bothered ,if no one pays them and they hav a family to support is we r not bothered ,after all who cares for humanity ). 5) just ask any thing and trouble them to make them a clown in frnd of world because they study some more than we ppl and spend their life for it .which itself is big crime . 6) we r quality testers and ISO 9000 certificate givers ,so they r at our mercy .( in Manorajyam we not kings we r Emperors ) 7) After this we shud concentrate on budha ,mahaveera and vivekanda also as they will also not pass our test .yes burden of proof is on their shoulders .Let every one proov it .If any one comes forward lets calls them frauds .Then one by one all scriptures and all cultural legacy .( Now we quote of them because it is our convenience which we will b discarding it after our aim is achieved .) if all those hindu frauds called rishis ,munies ,thinkers or even acharyas given us astrology /astronomy /mathematics and many science and giv us present science but we shud call those earliersciences as pseudo sciences ,same way if our father who taught us every thing and dont know neo sciences he is fraud .who bothers what happend b4 ? Even some thing which we dont know Now is proven later true we r not bothered .( we dont care even already prooven things then who cares which can b prooved later ) we r not even caring nativ america cultures has influence of vedic symbols nor in greece nor in europe nor in russia ..)Rather we shud say it is proof of we imported every thing . Even if they win we will not accept it and counter it with same old jargons .This shud b applicable to any one who dare to come forward to question us . If this same physical science is stumbling block in frnt of us we will bash it too .because it also has some theorems which changes frm situation to situtation and if it cannot proov formation theories it is not our head ache . How oxygen formed ( aah ,it is not our area ) ? we shud follow a stalinist model that is all ,cut feet to the size of shoes . Indian judiciary says even if 1000 criminals walks out free one innocent shud not b punished ,but our motto is diffrnt , No innocents we will spare .We will not allow any search or reserch in the name of astrology .Bibical theology can b a cource in western universities but did we supports this fraud myth called astrology in indian varsities .( ha ha .pure wasting of public money and spreading an anda viswas ) . so let mov and start right now . regrds prashanth PS-came across the text of a speech given by Lord Macaulay in the House of Commons on February 2, 1835: " I have traveled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief. Such wealth I have seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such caliber, that I do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the very backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage, and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own, they will lose their self-esteem, their native self-culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation. " , " dipika blr " blr.aspirant@ wrote: > > FYI & reference only. > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 11:17 PM, dipika blr blr.aspirant@ wrote: > > > By " Congress-led coalition " does he include congress supporting the " third > > front " from outside. > > > > Interesting he does not mention any numbers. Have the Psephologists placed > > their bets too > > > > will be interesting to watch who wins and by what logic in this battle b/w > > science & pseudo-science. > > > > with metta, > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Avtar Krishen Kaul jyotirved: > > > >> --- In hinducivilization <hinducivilization%40>, > >> viji viji123@ wrote: > >> > >> This is posted as a reference. Let us come back after the elections > >> and see if this is true > >> > >> Obama seers give Congress astro vote for LS > >> > >> http://www.asianage.com/presentation/leftnavigation/news/top- > >> story/obama-seers-give-congress-astro-vote-for-ls-.aspx > >> > >> By Our Special Correspondent > >> > >> Chennai > >> > >> Nov. 8: A famous Kerala astrologer who had predicted the Obama > >> juggernaut is now insisting that a Congress-led coalition will win > >> the Indian Parliament elections expected early next year. > >> > >> " The stars are favouring Sonia Gandhi but the time is not good for > >> Advani. As for Mayawati, I find her prospects very poor and she is > >> nowhere near Race Course Road, " says Parappanangadi Unni-krishna > >> Panicker, whose Obama predictions were eagerly lapped up by several > >> Malayalam papers much before the Illinois senator handsomely won the > >> White House race. > >> > >> " When I look into India’s horoscope, sadly it shows a lot of > >> political uncertainty. Unprincipled alliances and manoeuvres will > >> dominate our politics. In the midst of all this, I see the Congress > >> emerging as the winner, " Panicker told this newspaper. His noted > >> clients include former Tamil Nadu chief minister Jayalalithaa, former > >> Sri Lanka President Chandrika Kumaratunga and former Sri Lanka Prime > >> Minister Ranil Wickrem-esinghe. His fans in his native Malappuram > >> insist that even Condoleezza Rice consults him. > >> > >> It’s not usual to find high-profile astrologers agreeing with one > >> another, but in this prediction of a good show by the Congress in the > >> Lok Sabha polls Panicker has the support of his " rivals " , Dr Attukal > >> Radhakrishnan of Trivandrum and Chennai-based Lankan astro-consultant > >> K.K. Theventhra Rajh. > >> > >> " The movement of Jupiter between December 2008 and November 2009 is > >> favouring the Congress party. The poll will be held early 2009 and > >> that will help the Congress since 2 is its lucky number (the numbers > >> in 2009 add up to two). Manmohan Singh could be the Prime Minister > >> for some time. Advani’s stars do not show him as PM material, " > >> predicts Rajh. > >> > >> According to Radhakrishnan, the BJP is undergoing Kandaka Sani (the > >> worst manifestation of Saturn) and will face unprecedented crises > >> till September 2009, by which time the Parliament elections would > >> have been lost. " Though the Congress too is facing the Saturn effect, > >> it is only Ezharai Sani (Seven-and-a-half-years Saturn), starting > >> late 2009 till 2016, which will not impact the poll prospects early > >> next year, " says Radhakrishnan, who provides " celestial guidance " to > >> most Kerala politicians, including Congress strongman K. Karunakaran, > >> and almost all the top Malayalam movie stars. > >> > >> Warning that Kandaka Sani is a " terrible thing " , Radhakrishnan says > >> US President-elect Barack Obama too is going through this phase " and > >> even faces serious attempts on life " . But should he weather it till > >> September 2009, " he will be the best American President in history " . > >> > >> Panicker explains why. " I find Obama’s horoscope to be > >> extraordinarily brilliant and marked by rare qualities, such as Raja > >> Yogam, Adhi Yogam, Sasa Yogam and Nipuna Yogam. It’s very rare to > >> find them combining in a single horoscope like this. But the next 16 > >> months will be critical for him and, if he goes through that period, > >> Obama will rule the US for eight years and be adored across the > >> world. " > >> > >> Support ekalindia.org > >> " One Sponsor, One Dollar a Day, One School --- Valueadded, affordable > >> education for India's poorest. Help them. And you Help India. > >> > >> --- End forwarded message --- > >> > >> > >> > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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