Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Resp. Deshmukh Ji, Namaskar, Thanks for your msg and experience on Nadi astrology. After going through the attached file narrating your experience; I have just picked 3 following points in reverse order (from your msg) for further discussion. 1. (present status) At age 74, Iam quite contended and with peace with myself. 2. (Philosophical part)………I realised that all of us follow our programme in our own unique way whether we like it or not……… I was destined to marry the same lady regardless! It dawned on me that Iwas actually following a script/programme already written for me complete with dramatis personae like the names of persons and their relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE!............. 3. (Actual incident) ………. I had no say whatsoever about my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of my brothers and sisters who were alive at that time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader……….. We will continue our interaction in above framework (you can add any point if you wish). So first of all I will like to say that at this stage of life, when you have achieved containment (in my opinion it is the best position when you are fully satisfied with your present position and it is golden period of life.). It is immaterial how you achieved this position. It may be after some physical achievement, if may be after earning money, it may be after settling your children, it may be any one's philosophical thought (irrespective of religion, because one may be of any religion)……….. and so on. So long one is not satisfied with his present, he will continue to struggle, try to find out some short cut (in the form of knowing future, some remedy to alter future and so on, which is the fertile land for astrologers). You have achieved this containment from Nadi shastra. So are you ready to analyze your path, without disturbing your present containment. Because our mind set is always different then actual truth. We are more attached with our mind set and do not like to change it in any case. For example. If I am afraid of snakes then it is my mind set and I will never change it despite I know that only 4 type of snakes are poisonous even then I will not allow any other snake in my house. Why, because mindset and knowledge (truth) are always pole apart. In the forum we are discussing truth and not on the mindset of group of astrologers or believer. Hence it is academic and not personal. Thus it is for every member to decide himself as to how much he can modify his mind set towards truth. So will you like that I may analyze second point (philosophy) which may be against your present mindset. Hence perhaps you may not be able to accept it until unless you have open mind and ready to accept opposite views. So long 3rd point is concerned I will like to request you to narrate in detail, after you entered in the house (Nadi) and till he finishes his circus. Because secret of Nadi is only here (on the basis of disclosing this secret to Nadi astrologer, he has immediately refunded the amount to my friend) and it is neither in 2nd part nor in 1st part nor it has any relation with 2nd or 1st point. 2nd part is product of incident and your till that date experience, whereas 1st part is directly product of 2nd part. After hearing from you (about 1st and 3rd point) I will continue on 2nd and 3rd point. I am changing the heading of the msg for proper linking. Thanks for sharing your views. Take care of health. Yours truly, Sanat PS: You have also intimated in your msg of 3-10-8 that you will like to share your views on " destiny …….. " based on my blog " Astrology a science or myth " . I am waiting for that too. , vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote: > > Dear Sanat ji, > I am attaching a file in which I have given the > details of my first visit to Naadi/Samhita Reader more > than twenty years ago.Actually, this post was > addressed to the Moderator of Naadiastrology Group at > the time of joining the group. I hope this would be of > some interest to the members in this group. > Regds., > VB Deshmukh > --- sanat2221 <sanatkumar_jain wrote: > > > Resp Ms Dipika ji and Ghopal ji, > > Namaskar, > > We have just touched the point of NADI, 2 or 3 times > > but without any > > followup. In response of msg >>>> Mahaguru KSK said > > the NADi > > astrology is 100% correct and its handlers are 99% > > wrong.<<<<<, I > > commented earlier that NADi astrology is 100% wrong > > and its handlers > > are 99% right as they are able to earn their > > livelihood. > > > > I have always asked to the members that whether they > > have visited the > > place of NADI. But so far not a single member has > > come forward with > > +ve answer. > > > > Because you are very important members of the forum, > > Hence I will > > like to inform you that on insisting of a friend, I > > visited the place > > of NADI and after deeply observing the full > > procedure from the very > > beginning to the payment of money (as my friend was > > fully convinced) > > and confirmation of delivery of horoscope and > > recorded version of > > forecast, I was totally silent and in last when I > > told the cunning > > astrologer about his trick, which he followed then > > it was his turn of > > silence and he immediately return money to my > > friend, who was also > > surprised to find the trick. Perhaps I may be the > > one among few (?) > > who may have taken back the money by disclosing > > their trick. > > > > Now if some member or you may have visited the site > > then I will go > > ahead and not on the basis of some story of MP / > > MLA. > > > > Hope you will continue to share your views. > > > > Thanks. > > Yours truly, > > Sanat > > > > PS > > Members can see as to how astrologers are busy in > > forcasting, for > > promoting their business and when they are asked > > about the > > fundamental principles of astrology then they > > observe silence and > > other astrologers shield them under the cover of > > lerner astrologer. > > If members are interested in loosing their hard > > earned money for > > false dreams despite knowing the bogus foundation of > > predicitive > > astrology then who can save them? > > > > > > , " dipika > > blr " > > <blr.aspirant@> wrote: > > > > > > " But did you see at any point of time anything > > regarding future was > > > spelt?There are many ways to find the past and few > > routes to tell > > you the > > > future. " > > > > > > A Sage who saw 1000s of years future, generally > > predicts upto your > > present > > > age---and very vaguely about your future(While > > continuing to > > predict the > > > pasts of any future such clients) ---food for > > thought! > > > > > > regards > > > > > > More than those who hate you, more than all your > > enemies, an > > undisciplined * > > > mind* does greater harm. ~ *Buddha* > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:23 AM, TKP Ghopal > > <astrogopalji@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Mahaguru KSK said the NADi astrology is 100% > > correct and its > > handlers > > > > are 99% wrong. > > > > Your refernce of an MP is a testimony no > > doubt.But did you see at > > any point > > > > of time anything regarding future was > > spelt?There are many ways > > to find the > > > > past and few routes to tell you the future. > > > > Regards > > > > tkp > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/20/08, maheswara_varma > > <maheswara_varma@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> *An excerpt from an interview with > > Abdullakutty (Kerala MP) > > on Nadi > > > >> Astrology * > > > >> > > > >> *Making things worse, you wrote an article > > in a travel > > magazine, > > > >> describing your trip to a Nadi astrologer > > � where a pandit > > reads one's > > > >> destiny through the thumb -- in Tamil Nadu.* > > > >> ** > > > >> ** > > > >> The article was distorted out of proportions by > > the media, which > > was > > > >> totally unneeded. I made the visit out of > > curiosity and > > travelled to > > > >> Thanjavur. Then I shared my experiences with > > readers. It was > > meant as just a > > > >> travelogue. No one should read more into it. > > > >> > > > >> *The article was amazingly written. That apart, > > it is uncommon > > for a > > > >> Communist MP -- that too a Muslim -- to visit > > a Nadi > > astrologer.* > > > >> ** > > > >> I have said why I went. Thanjavur always > > attracts two kinds of > > people -- > > > >> one to know the future, the other tourists. > > India's culture is > > different. So > > > >> is our ethos. There is myth, fact and fiction. > > I can't run away > > from the > > > >> age-old customs and beliefs. There is no harm > > in visiting such > > places. But I > > > >> repeat -- it was pure curiosity that took me > > there. > > > >> > > > >> ** > > > >> *But you wanted to know your date of birth. (He > > did not know his > > exact > > > >> date). Were you convinced after the visit? * > > > >> ** > > > >> Yes, it was an enlightening experience. It was > > a search for > > destiny. > > > >> Whatever they said was almost true. Out of > > nowhere, an > > astrologer came with > > > >> a scripture -- written in ancient Tamil -- and > > read out all > > details about > > > >> my date of birth, including my star. I was > > stunned. The real > > shocker came > > > >> next. The pandit asked me if I was an MLA or > > MP. Such shockers > > kept coming. > > > >> Then came another stunner, " You are not a Hindu > > and you are an > > atheist. > > > >> Neither do you believe in Nadi astrology. " I > > could not believe > > myself. Then > > > >> he started narrating tales from the past, > > present and future. > > > >> > > > >> It is said that details of all human beings > > were written by > > sages such as > > > >> Vashishta, Agastya, Bhrigu and recorded at the > > Vaitheeswaran > > Kovil. It was a > > > >> revelation. A curious mind left with a > > contended heart > > > === message truncated === > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Mail - deshmukhv > My MailGroupsMail Help SearchSearch:Welcome, deshmukhv > [sign Out, My Account]Mail Home > Mail| Contacts| Calendar| Notepad Options Check MailCompose Search > Mail: Search MailSearch the Web > > > Folders[Add - Edit] > Inbox (4681) Draft Sent Bulk (34)[Empty] Trash[Empty] My Folders[Hide] > 123 > Search Shortcuts > My Photos My Attachments > Cricket > scores & more > Previous | Next | Back to Messages > DeleteReplyForwardMove... > Printable View This message is not flagged. [ Flag Message - Mark as > Unread ] > Date:Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:12:39 +0000 (GMT) > " vbdeshmukh " <deshmukhv View Contact Details > Subject:Re: : Welcome to . Visit today! > " Moderator " <- owner > > CC:deshmukhv > Dear Sir, > Thank You for accepting me as a member of your august > group. > I had my first brush with Naadi/ Samhita Astrology > more than twenty years ago ! My meeting with > Naadi/Samhita astrologer Shri Rajnikbhai ( also known > as Chhayashastri ) at his office cum residence at > Lamington Rd. was not at all on my cards when I > happened to be in Bombay\Mumbai for a technical > seminar. However, when I learnt that the said seminar > was postponed due to unavoidable circumstances I took > the opportunity to look him up him and what followed > was a mind boggling experience !!It shattered my ego > that I could take charge of my life and do exactly > what I wished to do in my life.The first thing that I > realised was that that I had no say whatsoever about > my identity like my name,my parent's name,the no. of > my brothers and sisters who were alive at that > time.However, the climaxing point was when the name of > my wife was disclosed by Rajnikbhai,the Naadi reader. > I had married a lady after my own heart and it created > a stir and opposition from my ortohdox family because > she belonged to a different caste ! I thought I did a > great thing by doing what I considered was my > prerogative to exercise my option of free will to > decide what was best im my own interest little knowing > that I was destined to marry the same lady regardless > ! It dawned on me that Iwas actually following a > script/programme already written for me complete with > dramatis personae like the names of persons and their > relationship clearly defined in the drama called LIFE! > (Did'nt Shakespere say that the world is a stage and > that we are all actors or some thing like that ? )Did > I really Have a choice or do I have any choice in > life? I was convinced that I like all others was > already programmed when I was born. My unique genetic > make up / genetic predesposition ensured at all times > that my physical, mental and emotional responses were > as outlined by the programme at the byte > level/micro/sookshma level at any given time or > situation. I realised that all of us follow our > programme in our own unique way whether we like it or > not.It is the Supreme Will of the Creator that even in > the most intimate relationship the progrmmes of any > two individuals would never-ever match upto 100% !Thre > is simply no duplication in the programme as you do > not find duplication in nature or the creation.After > meeting the Naadi-astrologer,my outlook on life was > totally changed.I began to accept myself as Iam and > accept others too as they are-good, bad or ugly. They > are there because of their programme about which they > have no choice as much as I do not have.We are bound > by this programme which is nothing but our destiny or > Fate over which we simply have no control!I ceased to > hate or despise anybody including those who can be > called enemies who are absent in my life because of my > altered perception. At age 74, Iam quite contended and > with peace with myself. > After my first meeting with Naadi-astrologer, I became > crazy with Naadi/ Samhitas and experienced no. of > them all over India with friends and relatives.with > various results which ranged from Divine to plain > rubbish !! No regrets. > However, as a student of Astrology for over 18 years, > I can venture to say that Naadi Shastra is not > astrology which is based on Astronomy but a system of > divination based on its own parameters which are > simply beyond human definations. I am therefore not at > all in favour of clubbing Naadi with astrology which I > consider a misnomer. > I have some more things to share with our Group but > for now I would like to sign off. > Thanking you once again and with very warm regards, > VB Deshmukh/ Thane/ Maharashtra. > > > > > Moderator > <-owner > wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > Welcome to the group at > > Groups, a > > group dedicated for discussion of Naadi Astrology > > and for sharing and Interacting with Naadi > > Enthusiasts of their experinces with Naadi > > predictions. > > > > To learn more about the group, please > > visit > > . If you > > are new to Naadi Predictions please read the > > document titled " Nadi Astrology - An > > Introduction.doc " from the Files section. > > > > DO NOT REGISTER TO PROMOTE YOUR SITES OR SALES OR > > POST ANY IN THIS FORUM. YOU ARE > > WASTING TIME!!! > > > > YOUR REGISTRATION AND YOUR S WILL BE > > DELETED WITHIN MINUTES OF POSTING. 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