Fwd: Change of Tamil New Year

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HinduCalendar , " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

<jyotirved wrote:

 

Shri Pathmarajah Nagalingamji,

Namaskar!

<The decision to change the New Year date by the state government is

based on a decision made in 1922 when over 500 scholars, led by

Maraimalai Adigal, founder of the Thani Tamil Iyakkam (Pure Tamil

Movement) met at Pachaiyappa’s college in Chennai and decided

that Tamils needed a separate calendar in the name of Tamil savant

Tiruvalluvar. They also determined that the birth year of

Tiruvalluvar

was 31 BC. This was accepted in 1971 by the then Tamil Nadu

Government

headed by M Karunanidhi.>

 

I am at a loss to understand as to what Maraimalai Adigal or

Tiruvalluvar have to do with Tamil calendar! Does it mean that

Tamil

Nadu did not have any calenar before these two savants? Or is it

that Tamil Nadu is/was following some sort of " regnal year " like

that

of some other countries?

 

We have had a lot of discussion in this forum on Tamil New Year

being

shifted from mid-April to mid-January---just like out of frying pan

into fire! Would you kindly enlighten me as to what significance mid-

January as a new year has got which mid-April does/did not have?

According to me, both are baseless, useless and meaningless since

they have neither any religious nor any geographical significance!

Both are selections by " Vedic astrologers " and thus " of Vedic

astrologers " and therefore " for Vedic astrologers " .

 

You have said in the above para that the decision was made in 1922

by

over 500 scholars, but the chances are that those scholars were

actually " Vedic jyotishis " than real scholars even of Tamil

literature, as otherwise they would not have arrived at such an

erroneous conclusion! We have a glaring example that a revered

Jagadguru also has endorsed Lahiri Ayanamsha rashichakra not only

for

phalita-jyotisham but even for Vedic festivals and muhurtas, because

his " scholars " advised him to do so! That " aadesha patra " of that

jagadguru from Tamil Nadu and my views about the same are in this

forum.

 

Regarding the statement

<Change of Tamil New Year from the First Day of Chithirai to First

of

Thai legal, says Tamil Nadu High Court>

you will recall that the BJP government got " Vedic astrology "

adopted

as an optional subject by the UGC which was challenged in the SC.

However, the SC okayed it! What does it prove? That " Vedic

astrology "

is really Vedic, since it has been okayed by the SC? No, all it

proves is that when a Government takes some decisions out of

ulterior

political motives, it is not necessary that every such decision will

be disapproved by the courts of India, since the courts do not have

that much of time and energy to sift grain from the chaff! Copurts

decide only on the basis of " facts " kept before them by the two

contending parties! For instance, if the SC had been apprised of

the

fact that there are no Mesha, Vrisha etc. rashis etc. in any of the

Vedas or the Vedanga Jyotisha, or even in Atharva-Jyotisha or the

Atharva-Veda Parishistha, thus to call any predictive gimmicks

as " Vedic astrology " would be utterly disrespectful towards the

Vedas, they would certainly have not okayed the " subject " as " Vedic

astrology " . Similarly, if the SC had been informed about the fact

that till the advent of Maya the mlechha, nobody in India knew as to

how to calculate Mangal,Shani etc. planets vis-a-vis Mesha, Vrisha

etc. rashis, they certainly would have been taken aback! We must

not

forget that judges also are human beings and have the same

limitations which everybody else has--and it is not necessary that

they are authorities on every subject under the sun!

 

All that the Tamil Nadu government has done by shifting the Tamil

New

Year from mid April to mid-January, as such, is pander to " Vedic

astrologers " and " Vedic astrology " --since it is actually Lahiri

Makar

Sankranti that is being celebrated in mid-January, and it is that

very Makar Sankranti that Tamilians call Pongal, Kashmiris call

Shishira Sankranti, and is known as Makaradi etc. in several other

parts of the country!

And by now you must also be fully aware that Lahiri

Ayanamsha/Rashichakra is nothing but Maya the mlechha's Ayanamsha

and

Rashichakra in disguise!

 

Had the High Court been informed that it was actually the shortest

day of the year viz. Uttarayana that was the New Year's day in

ancient India, that was known as Pongal in Tamil Nadu actually, and

it had got derailed by 23/24 days just because of the frauds who

call

themselves " Vedic astrologers " , the things would have been entirely

different! Similarly, if the HC had been informed that the mid-

April

New Year was nothing but a distortion of the Vernal Equinox, Vasanta

Sampta, thanks (again) to " Vedic astrologers " , the things would have

been entirely different!

 

As such, congratulations to Shri Karunanidhi for keeping Maya the

mlechha alive in Bharatavarsha! And congatulations to you for

seconding him!

But the tailpiece is that BJP lost the previous general election

because of pandering to " Vedic astrologers " (and thereby to adharma)

Let us, therefore, keep our fingers crossed about the fate of the

new

government in Tamil Nadu!

With regards,

AKK

 

 

 

 

 

HinduCalendar , " Pathmarajah Nagalingam "

<beastmy@> wrote:

>

> Change of Tamil New Year from the First Day of Chithirai to First

of

> Thai legal, says Tamil Nadu High Court

>

> The present Tamil Nadu State Government had changed the Tamil New

Year

> from the first day of the Tamil month of Chithirai (mid-April) to

first

> of Thai (mid-January)

> through legislation in the beginning of year 2008. This was

challenged

> in the court and now the High Court has given its verdict that

there is

> no unconstitutionality or illegality in changing the Tamil New

Year

to

> Thai first day, which is also the Pongal day.

>

> The decision to change the New Year date by the state government is

> based on a decision made in 1922 when over 500 scholars, led by

> Maraimalai Adigal, founder of the Thani Tamil Iyakkam (Pure Tamil

> Movement) met at Pachaiyappa’s college in Chennai and decided

> that Tamils needed a separate calendar in the name of Tamil savant

> Tiruvalluvar. They also determined that the birth year of

Tiruvalluvar

> was 31 BC. This was accepted in 1971 by the then Tamil Nadu

Government

> headed by M Karunanidhi.

>

> Giving its approval to the change of Tamil New Year day the court

made

> the following observations †"

>

> ..the State government had adopted Tiruvalluvar Era as the

basis of

> its official calendar only after the advent of the Constitution.

> Earlier, the land of Tamils had seen adoption of Salivakhana Era,

Hijiri

> Era, Christian Era and Sakha Era.

>

> The petitioner had attacked the legislation on the ground that

> Tamils believed that Lord Brahma had created the world on the

first

of

> Chithirai. It was also submitted that the Tamil Hindu calendar

with

a

> cycle of 60 years followed ‘Nirayana’ vernal equinox.

>

> To this, the Judge said it was “most unfortunate†that

> the petitioner had attempted to bring a religious flavour to the

issue

> by claiming that the right to offer special worship in temples on

the

> first day of Chithirai was an essential religious practice. “It

> should be proudly noted that Tamilians all over the world,

irrespective

> of their religious affinity such as Hindus, Muslims, Christians

and

even

> non-believers celebrate the Tamil New Year without any

discrimination or

> religious fervour,†he said.

>

> The Judge pointed out that there was great debate regarding

the

> origin of the 60-year-cycle and how it contained Sanskrit names

for

each

> year.

>

> “This had not been explained by any scholar so far.

Therefore

> the debate is inconclusive.†He suggested that the government

> consider appointing an expert committee to suggest and make

changes

in

> the cycle of 60 years of Tamil calendar. (The Hindu)

>

> http://www.hindu-blog.com/2008/09/change-of-tamil-new-year-from-

first-da\

> y.html

>

 

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